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#1 onefatalgoose

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:29 PM

For any of us out there still supporting fluoridation in our water supply, please check out this short three part video on why we have been brainwashed into thinking a deadly chemical is actually safe.

Thanks to others on this site, i am finding out more and more about how we are slowly killing ourselves due to a misplaced trust in government officials and corporations that deal with our food and water supply. They even have the dental industry wrapped around their fingers.

If you are one of the many people who think fluoride is perfectly safe, and others are being paranoid, please check out these videos, or at least research the chemical. You will be running for a fluoride filtration system if and when you do

Part 1

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:34 PM

Word bro. So man harmful chemical and toxins are absorbed into our bodies each day, its no wonder we have health problems.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:17 AM

Yep, distill the crap out of your water. I used to live up in the mountains where we had pure spring water, now I live in the city and the showers smell so gross. I want to move back to the country soon.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:16 PM

Just told my mom she should start distilling her water or get a fluoride filtration unit.
Her response: "Oh no, fluoride is good for your teeth. Plus kids used to always get cavities up until they added fluoride to the water"

It's pretty depressing to see it happen right in front of you. The effect of all this brainwashing, and how well it's worked

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

I don't think they provide enough evidence to condemn fluoride. Don't get me wrong, I don't think its necessarily a good thing...but fluoride is a useful element for the human body and a small amount is required every day for latent biological functions. Also, excess is excreted in urine, so unless you take a massive dose you should be fine.

That being said, I'd rather play it safe and not have fluorinated water.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:38 PM

Just told my mom she should start distilling her water or get a fluoride filtration unit.
Her response: "Oh no, fluoride is good for your teeth. Plus kids used to always get cavities up until they added fluoride to the water"

It's pretty depressing to see it happen right in front of you. The effect of all this brainwashing, and how well it's worked


One time I travelled to this country side in different country, where theres nomads living. They all had literally completely white teeth and they don't even have tap water or fluoride in their water. Also they do herd and drink the pure milk from their cows.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:58 AM

Just told my mom she should start distilling her water or get a fluoride filtration unit.
Her response: "Oh no, fluoride is good for your teeth. Plus kids used to always get cavities up until they added fluoride to the water"

It's pretty depressing to see it happen right in front of you. The effect of all this brainwashing, and how well it's worked


Yeah, my mom used to think that too. She raised us on heavily fluoridated water at the recommendation of her dentist. She found out the truth and feels terrible now. Everyone in my family drinks clean water now, it's scary to see brainwashing happen right in front of you but don't lose hope that awakening can spread too.

Also, excess is excreted in urine, so unless you take a massive dose you should be fine.


As far as I know this isn't true... the only way to detox fluoride is by displacing it with tons of iodine. I've been through intense fluoride detox, it's nightmarish. This stuff doesn't come out on it's own.

Edited by dejaclairevoyant, 13 April 2012 - 09:00 AM.


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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:08 PM

Don't know what to drink anymore.... Apparently bottled water is bad for you because of the plastics used to make the bottles too.

Damn. Western Europe is the place to be, 98% rejected. They got it right.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:14 PM

there is a study that exists that confirmed the ability of flouride to accumulate in pineal glands that have some calcification, this may add to the dysfunction of the pinral gland to produce melatonin, which is involved in neurogenesis or the growth of new neurons. also, melatonin can down regulate the glucocortoid receptor on neurons, making them less suceptible to damage/death from high levels of cortisol released from the stress response. essentially, flouride could make you, less smart.

drink montmorency cherrie juice which have the highest content of melatonin in any food, and i suppose, stay away from flouride too.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:17 PM

Don't know what to drink anymore.... Apparently bottled water is bad for you because of the plastics used to make the bottles too.

Damn. Western Europe is the place to be, 98% rejected. They got it right.


If you can't get access to pure water (like, a mountain spring) the best bet is to purify your own water and store it in glass jugs, or smaller plastic bottles (the kind that are meant to store water and don't leak out toxins).

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:04 AM


Don't know what to drink anymore.... Apparently bottled water is bad for you because of the plastics used to make the bottles too.

Damn. Western Europe is the place to be, 98% rejected. They got it right.


If you can't get access to pure water (like, a mountain spring) the best bet is to purify your own water and store it in glass jugs, or smaller plastic bottles (the kind that are meant to store water and don't leak out toxins).


You said your detox was nightmarish, and since i'm about to do one...any words of advice?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:29 AM

Yes, do your research. How are you detoxing fluoride? What are you using? I displaced tons of fluoride in my body by taking 100+ mgs of iodine every day for a month, After awhile my mouth began tasting like pool cleaner and my hair started falling out in chunks ( a symptom of fluoride poisoning)... I didn't research what I was doing enough at the time, I just thought the fluoride would come out and I'd pee it out or something. But you can actually just release it from deep within your system and get it circulating in your blood which can obviously be dangerous. So if you want to specifically detox fluoride there are other things you should do that are important. I know selenium is important to take alongside iodine for a variety of reasons and *I think* (don't quote me on this because it's been awhile since I looked into it) it binding to excess fluoride and helping remove it is one of them. But there are probably other things that do this. If you're serious about it I'd go to www.curezone.com and ask in the iodine forums about detoxing fluoride (also just search those forums as there are tons of archives).

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:07 AM

An infrared sauna is meant to help with detoxing fluoride (amongst other things).
Screw the government, the FDA and the medical industry.
Greedy b*stards are killing the human race.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:15 AM

Better living through fluoride
Posted: 03 May 2012 09:01 PM PDT



Public health authorities now know better than to spray DDT on kids on beaches. Will they soon feel the same way about adding fluoride to public water supplies?
Before Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring came out in 1962, America was a simpler place where “Better Living Through Chemistry” wasn’t an album by Fat Boy Slim or a snarky T shirt for urban hipsters. It was a DuPont corporate slogan that became an optimistic motto for promoting everything from spraying kids directly with DDT to marketing food that didn’t spoil.
According to The Case Against Fluoride: How Hazardous Waste Ended Up in Our Drinking Water and the Bad Science and Powerful Politics That Keep It There, adding fluoride, a by-product of phosphate fertilizer manufacturing, to municipal water supplies came out of America’s post-World War II love affair with applying science to daily life:


In 1950, when fluoridation began in the United States, DDT, PCBs, tetraethyl lead (a gasoline additive), asbestos, and fluoride were considered safe by scientists and government officials. Except for fluoride, all have been banned.


Guilt by association may not be enough to indict a practice that the Centers for Disease Control has included with vaccination, safer workplaces and family planning as one of the Ten Great Public Health Achievements of the Twentieth Century.
<img alt="The Case Against Fluoride book cover" height="300" title="fluoride-200x300" width="200" />
The Case Against Fluoride: How Hazardous Waste Ended Up in Our Drinking Water and the Bad Science and Powerful Politics That Keep It There by Paul Connett, James Beck and HS Micklem, Chelsea Green, 372 pp, $24.95.
But fluoridation’s history does help to explain how a substance originally considered poisonous and still treated both as a contaminant by the EPA and as an untested drug by the FDA is not filtered out of community water supplies, but instead, poured into them.
Public health sold out to industry

Unless you’re an anti-fluoride activist or a health professional, you’ll want to skim the many summaries of research studies the make up the bulk of this book but add credibility to its claims.
If you just read the beginning and the end, you can get the gist of the story: the desire of Alcoa and other companies to avoid lawsuits from residents near aluminum and fertilizer plants related to fluoride poisoning turned into a scheme to convince the US Public Health Service to bless fluoride as a modern dental miracle in 1950, thus ensuring copy-cat endorsements from both the American Dental Association and the American Medical Association.
Six decades later, the evidence for fluoride’s ability to fight cavities remains weak while fears of its potential danger to children, the elderly and other vulnerable groups have grown, particularly after a 2006 study by the National Research Council “reported that fluoride was associated with damage to the teeth, bone, and endocrine system and possibly caused bone cancer.” Further studies have linked fluoride to lowered IQ and bone problems in children.
Meanwhile, authors Connett, Beck and Micklem claim that only politics and the fear of lawsuits by polluters and makers of dental products keep fluoride in our public water supplies today.
Conspiracy theory?

I’d heard that some people didn’t like fluoride in water, but I always associated them with the kind of crank parodied in Dr Strangelove (the film’s Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper tries to start a nuclear war to stop government interference with “our precious bodily fluids”) who saw community fluoridation as a nefarious plot to reduce the population. So I never paid the issue much mind.
But The Case Against Fluoride offered enough to finally convince me to start drinking filtered water. The main points:
  • Outside of the United States, which fluoridates 70% of its citizens, few countries add fluoride to their public water supplies. Some nations, such as the Czech Republic, have recently cancelled existing fluoridation programs, citing concerns about safety and effectiveness, while Ireland has begun a campaign to do the same. And non-fluoride countries’ teeth haven’t suffered for it. Industrialized nations that don’t fluoridate their drinking water, including most European nations, boast cavity rates comparable to or lower than those in the U.S.
  • When transported from fertilizer plants, fluoride must, by law, be handled as a toxic waste. But as soon as it makes its way to water treatment plants, it somehow is transformed into a beneficial water additive. It’s illegal to dump fluoride in rivers or lakes unless it passes through humans first. And if they couldn’t sell it to municipal water plants, companies would have to dispose of fluoride in EPA-approved landfills.
  • Unlike chlorine, which also has its detractors, fluoride is not added to water to prevent contagious disease. Instead, it’s a drug (though one that the FDA has never approved), administered without regard to dosage (people who drink more water get more fluoride and smaller people get the same dose as bigger ones) and without consent of the patient.
  • Fluoride is readily available from toothpaste, mouthwash, dental treatments and other sources. Since less than 1% of fluoride in public water makes its way to human teeth, the rest is wasted on brewing beer, watering lawns and washing cars.
  • Even dental researchers who believe that fluoride is effective to stop cavities think it only works in a topical application (eg, brushing your teeth or swishing with mouthwash). Researchers have now determined that systemic application (drinking the stuff) offers no benefit to the teeth.
Reading this book might make you into a water purity activist, willing to ask your city council to stop fluoridation, or it might just convince you to quietly switch your family to distilled water. Either way, once you know the facts, it’s hard to go back.
– Erik Curren, Transition Voice



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Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:27 AM

Filtered Water and toothpaste replacements all over my house for a majority of my life already. My mom had been aware these dangers, and always got into heated debates with my dentist Posted Image

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:55 AM

Filtered Water and toothpaste replacements all over my house for a majority of my life already. My mom had been aware these dangers, and always got into heated debates with my dentist Posted Image


You have an awesome mom! Younger people today are starting to come from a generation where their parents know about these things (I got the feeling you were a bit younger, correct me if I'm wrong though). My parents generation didn't know much at all (I'm 30).

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:53 AM


Filtered Water and toothpaste replacements all over my house for a majority of my life already. My mom had been aware these dangers, and always got into heated debates with my dentist Posted Image


You have an awesome mom! Younger people today are starting to come from a generation where their parents know about these things (I got the feeling you were a bit younger, correct me if I'm wrong though). My parents generation didn't know much at all (I'm 30).


Well, it was a little OCD at the time, our pantry had never been full of twinkies and donuts, she was a health nut. I'm a bit over half of your age, so I can understand that many people are now being hit with a reality check.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:21 AM

Vitamin K for teeth (among all the other essential minerals/nutrients) >>>>>> Flouride in our water