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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:08 AM

The amount of prescription drugs the average person takes these days is incredible.

Here is a chart by age range and state. http://www.stateheal...p?ind=268&cat=5

The below Mercola article cites national averages of

> 65 - over 31 prescriptions per year
19-64 - 11 prescriptions per year
< 19 - 4 prescriptions per year!  

 

Did you get that?  The average person under 19 takes 4 prescriptions per year!  Although, at times, I suppose I took 2. An antibiotic and a topical all for acne. 

And these are primarily for lifestyle and diet caused diseases.

And the FDA is planning to make many more prescription drugs OTC to make it easier for everyone to get them. Which most people will consider to be a good thing. Because a lack of drugs or access to drugs is what's wrong with our health... http://articles.merc...20326_DNL_art_2


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

CDC report on CRE, the lethal, antibiotic resistant bacteria spreading in health care facilities that kill half the people that contract it, and can some how spread its antibiotic resistance to other bacteria, such as E. coli, something we all have, common in he environment and the culprit behind most urinary tract infections.

http://www.cdc.gov/m...dpk-vs-hai.html

Green med info article explaining how our healthcare system caused this problem and alternatives:
http://www.greenmedi...atural-medicine


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Posted 25 March 2013 - 08:22 AM

Then there's the cholesterol misunderstanding and mistreatment. 

 This is a MUST READ!!!!!

Here's a Huffington post article explaining it and how the conventional doctors become so determined to focus on the wrong culprit in heart disease.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/the-cholesterol-myth-that_b_676817.html. 

 

And another:  YES, I know it's from a site called quick & dirty.  It's a good summary.  Just click through for links to the research.

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/health-fitness/prevention/is-the-link-between-cholesterol-and-heart-disease-bogus?utm_source=ND20140208&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nutritiondiva  In summary:

the impact of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol is far less than expected.  More to the point, cholesterol levels are a very poor predictor of who will develop or die of heart disease.  Although reducing saturated fat intake can somewhat reliably reduce blood cholesterol, it doesn't seem to reduce the risk of heart disease. In fact, lowering high cholesterol by any means doesn't reduce deaths from heart disease.   - See more at: http://www.quickandd...h.x5r6t96R.dpuf

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 the impact of dietary cholesterol on blood cholesterol is far less than expected.  More to the point, cholesterol levels are a very poor predictor of who will develop or die of heart disease.  Although reducing saturated fat intake can somewhat reliably reduce blood cholesterol, it doesn't seem to reduce the risk of heart disease. In fact, lowering high cholesterol by any means doesn't reduce deaths from heart disease.   - See more at: http://www.quickandd...h.x5r6t96R.dpuf

 

Click through for links to studies.  Research shows that about half the people with heart disease do not have high cholesterol and many people with high cholesterol do not have heart disease.   Cholesterol is not the issue that should be focused on.  And interfering with vital processes with Statin drugs has a number of detrimental effects:  Low CoQ10 which is an important antioxidant/anti-inflammatory and part of the process your cells used to make energy, low Testosterone & other hormone issues, low vitamin D whose importance has been underestimated.  You need your vitamin D!


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

Another example of how the controlled studies we are supposed to trust are flawed.  - The placebo effect.

 

in phase I, desperate people know they are being given a drug and hope it will work and so it seems to work. Then. in phase II, they don't know if they are getting the real treatment or not. That they do placebo surgeries and other invasive things is also deeply disturbing

 

http://www.psmag.com...-thought-38717/


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:34 PM

The main reason I seldom see doctors anymore is because I find I am always paying for a debate.

 

I come in for a problem and they say "I am going to prescribe this to you, ok?.  

I say "i'm not really sure if I want to take that, i've heard of it causing A, B, and C"

Them "Don't read stories you hear on the internet, it's very safe"

Me:  "These aren't stories, I read them in medical journals"

Them: "Well, I don't know what you read but those side effects are extremely rare.  If you want to get rid of this, you must take this drug"

Me: "Isnt there anything I can do which does not involve this pill, anything natural or alternative, you know, non-systemic?"

Them:  *rolling eyes* "This is the gold standard of treatment, and I know of nothing out there that will help besides this drug, except maybe this other drug"

Me:  "I'll think about it and let you know"

Them "You're not going to take it?"

Me:  "I will let you know after I do some more research"

 

 

They then look at me with a state of complete shock on their face as if I have diabetes and I am refusing to take insulin

 

I walk out of the room and I know they are just shaking their head, writing me off as some conspiracy holistic nutjob.  Don't get me wrong, sometimes we all have to take medication for things but most MD's today are nothing but a bunch of paid lackeys and yes men for big pharma and if you, the lowly uneducated patient questions them, they really start squirming with frustration.  


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:52 PM

^ Excellent description.  I had similar talks with my mother's doctors as she recuperated from a stroke.  Although after arguing with them, they did change her medication a couple of times. Apparently they weren't married to all the crap they were prescribing. It's just this thing they do.

 

It's the same with veterinary care.  I recently took my brother's cat to the vet. He thought the cat was constipated. It turns out it was a urinary tract issue male cats often get.  They prescribed an antibiotic. I get home and look into it and find that cat urinary problems rarely have anything to do with bacteria.  It's about diet.  I looked up all kinds of home treatments some of which involve ACV, surprise, surprise. Plenty of people swear success with it.  And then there were plenty of other treatments I didn't look into.  The antibiotic cost $35. And I don't want it given to the cat.  

 

( I also happened to have misplaced it and I don't know where. I need to go look under the car seat. )

 

Also, my dog has had ear problems since I adopted him two or so years ago.  They gave me antibiotic ear drops which never got rid of the problem. I tried using the safflower oil I use on his skin since oil is a solvent for ear wax and antimicrobial. It helped as much as the vet stuff. At least he'd stop scratching for a while.  Then I found the enzyme based stuff recommended in a discussion forum, found it had lots of great reviews on Amazon, tried it. And he hasn't had a problem since.



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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:13 AM

^ Excellent description.  I had similar talks with my mother's doctors as she recuperated from a stroke.  Although after arguing with them, they did change her medication a couple of times. Apparently they weren't married to all the crap they were prescribing. It's just this thing they do.

 

It's the same with veterinary care.  I recently took my brother's cat to the vet. He thought the cat was constipated. It turns out it was a urinary tract issue male cats often get.  They prescribed an antibiotic. I get home and look into it and find that cat urinary problems rarely have anything to do with bacteria.  It's about diet.  I looked up all kinds of home treatments some of which involve ACV, surprise, surprise. Plenty of people swear success with it.  And then there were plenty of other treatments I didn't look into.  The antibiotic cost $35. And I don't want it given to the cat.  

 

( I also happened to have misplaced it and I don't know where. I need to go look under the car seat. )

 

Also, my dog has had ear problems since I adopted him two or so years ago.  They gave me antibiotic ear drops which never got rid of the problem. I tried using the safflower oil I use on his skin since oil is a solvent for ear wax and antimicrobial. It helped as much as the vet stuff. At least he'd stop scratching for a while.  Then I found the enzyme based stuff recommended in a discussion forum, found it had lots of great reviews on Amazon, tried it. And he hasn't had a problem since.

 

I am so glad your dog and your brothers cat got better from safer and more rational treatments.  The problem I see is the fact that we live in a society so trusting of doctors and so untrusting of common sense, natural alternatives.  I have arguments with my mother who is constantly telling me to go to the Dermatologist, as if they have some magic information I have never heard before.  I have cured more ailments researching information myself then taking what a Dr. prescribes.  I've been to dermatologists more than 20 times and its the same thing, round of these antibiotics, prescription for that, etc.  It never lasts, and in the long run I become dependent on things that actually worsen my acne.  

 

For example, at this point, the only thing that remotely clears my cystic acne is topical antibiotics, which is the only prescription drug I am willing to take at this point for acne.  This wasn't the case 7 years ago before I began taking them.  BP used to clear me up well.  So now I am stuck with having to go on and off of the damn topical clindamycin because I have to go to work presentable, not to mention sleep at night.  I try and go months without the clindamycin, but my cysts eventually become so painful  I throw my hands up and say "F-it!", give me the damn antibiotic lotion...I just need the pain to stop!  Before I began seeing derms and taking prescribed meds, my acne was manageable, now its out of control and almost untreatable.  But where am I supposed to go when i'm in pain and I need to meet a client for my job?  There is nowhere else for me to go, natural Derms don't exist.....so I give in to the "treat the symptom" Doctors even though I know its bad for me.  I feel like all medicine is now somewhat like this, but Dermatology, much like Psychiatry....seems to be the worse.  They are very set in their methods of treatment of prescribing drugs exclusively with little practical advice.  They are unwilling to see things from another view.  Whatever happened to "first do no harm?"

 

 

I feel like a lot of people in the holistic forum, yourself included, would make great MD's or DO's.  I have thought about it myself.  My brother is an Orthopedic Surgeon and many of the women in my family are Nurses. I just doubt my ability to get through a med school program trying to defend positions that my peers and superiors would consider looney.  As if Med School wasn't hard enough!  It just seems like an uphill battle of constantly defending positions and being looked down upon.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:22 AM

Consider the so-called Paradoxes in which cultures consume high amounts of substances our doctors tell us cause disease, yet they have lower rates of those diseases than we do.

 

Japanese Paradox, in which a population that consumes very high amounts of salt have a lower heart disease incidence.  Why?  Because, salt isn't really the issue.

 

Much like with the so-called French Paradox about high fat, western conventional medicine focuses on the wrong issues and prescribes the wrong treatments.

 

And despite decades of telling us to avoid these bad foods such as sat fat and salt, and giving us drugs to stop the diseases, the disease rates have grown.

 

 

I feel like a lot of people in the holistic forum, yourself included, would make great MD's or DO's.  I have thought about it myself.  My brother is an Orthopedic Surgeon and many of the women in my family are Nurses. I just doubt my ability to get through a med school program trying to defend positions that my peers and superiors would consider looney.  As if Med School wasn't hard enough!  It just seems like an uphill battle of constantly defending positions and being looked down upon.

 

 

 

Yeah, I've considered studying various things, not medicine though.  But I don't want to get indoctrinated in conventional wrong thinking.  I spoke to a nutritionist at the farmers market a few weeks ago because she's a certified or registered or whatever nutritionist, but doesn't preach conventional nutritional 'wisdon.'   I asked how she did that.  It turns out, she went to a naturopathic but acredited school of some sort. 

 

I'm actually much more concerned about the environment and the stupid things we keep doing that fight it.  And I mean little things. Like the really, really poorly designed, and nowadays giant, houses they fill our cities with.  When we used to know how to build a home to be more naturally cooled, easily heated and built to last.  And then there's the things we do to the water, with our sewage, storm water runoff, flood control, irrigation. God so many things. Really, it's like we do just about everything wrong.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:47 PM

When you say "Our diet" - I'm assuming you mean "Americas diet"?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:26 AM

When you say "Our diet" - I'm assuming you mean "Americas diet"?


Yes, but but other cultures have diets that are nearly as bad or becoming as bad. In many cases, American corporations and culture can be blamed, such as the spread of coca cola and fast food chains around the world.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

When you say "Our diet" - I'm assuming you mean "Americas diet"?


Yes, but but other cultures have diets that are nearly as bad or becoming as bad. In many cases, American corporations and culture can be blamed, such as the spread of coca cola and fast food chains around the world.

 

Other countries may be catching up - but America still has the worst diet and most obese population in the world (sadly). In Canada for example Mcdonald's and other American fatty food chains exist but they're truly not popular - The Mcdonald's Drive- thru is an utter ghost town where I live as Canadians much perfer Tim Horton's coffee to Big Mac's and fries. Just a different mentality. 



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 07:47 AM

 In Canada for example Mcdonald's and other American fatty food chains exist but they're truly not popular - The Mcdonald's Drive- thru is an utter ghost town where I live as Canadians much perfer Tim Horton's coffee to Big Mac's and fries. Just a different mentality. 

Yeah, right. i wonder how that McDonald's stays in business, then. And Tim Hortons serves fresh fruit and veggies, does it?

tell me the name of that popular healthy Canadian dish that consists of a massive pile of French fries smothered in cheese and gravy? I can't remember.

Other than BGH being banned in Canada, there is little difference in the food production, diet habits and health between Canada and the US. You eat the same crap, most animals are factory farmed, diabetes is just as rampant even in children, teens are obese, and so on.


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 09:23 PM

 

 






When you say "Our diet" - I'm assuming you mean "Americas diet"?

Yes, but but other cultures have diets that are nearly as bad or becoming as bad. In many cases, American corporations and culture can be blamed, such as the spread of coca cola and fast food chains around the world.
 
Other countries may be catching up - but America still has the worst diet and most obese population in the world (sadly). In Canada for example Mcdonald's and other American fatty food chains exist but they're truly not popular - The Mcdonald's Drive- thru is an utter ghost town where I live as Canadians much perfer Tim Horton's coffee to Big Mac's and fries. Just a different mentality. 
Yeah, right. i wonder how that McDonald's stays in business, then. And Tim Hortons serves fresh fruit and veggies, does it?

tell me the name of that popular healthy Canadian dish that consists of a massive pile of French fries smothered in cheese and gravy? I can't remember.

Other than BGH being banned in Canada, there is little difference in the food production, diet habits and health between Canada and the US. You eat the same crap, most animals are factory farmed, diabetes s just as rampant even in children, teens are obese, and so on.

 

I'm guessing you've never once stepped foot in Canada? the differences are astounding in terms of lifestyle. We have different portion sizes,  considerably less fastfood restaurants and a staggering lack of obese people. Not to mention a higher taxation on junkfood which acts as a deterent to bad eating (a box of twinkies can cost as much as $12.99!).

 

 

.. and nobody eats "Poutine" unless you're from Quebec (poutine isn't even served in my province except at festivals and such).



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Posted 07 April 2013 - 07:43 AM

I'm guessing you've never once stepped foot in Canada? the differences are astounding in terms of lifestyle. We have different portion sizes,  considerably less fastfood restaurants and a staggering lack of obese people. Not to mention a higher taxation on junkfood which acts as a deterent to bad eating (a box of twinkies can cost as much as $12.99!).).


Wrong As usual. do you ever know what you are talking about? You do a lot of guessing.  

 

I have been to Canada. And your newspapers report differently about the health and diet of Canadians. Quick google searches on Canadian diet, diabetes in Canada, obesity in Canada etc, You'll find headlines like 'Canadian diet recipe for disaster'. And Canadian diet looks like a dogs breakfast' which begins with this lead sentence: ' The Canadian government has a food disorder, and it's helping to fuel the country's obesity epidemic.

http://www.thestar.c..._breakfast.html


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:36 PM

 

>>I'm guessing you've never once stepped foot in Canada? the differences are astounding in terms of lifestyle. We have different portion sizes,  considerably less fastfood restaurants and a staggering lack of obese people. Not to mention a higher taxation on junkfood which acts as a deterent to bad eating (a box of twinkies can cost as much as $12.99!).).


Wrong As usual. do you ever know what you are talking about? You do a lot of guessing.  

 

I have been to Canada. And your newspapers report differently about the health and diet of Canadians. Quick google searches on Canadian diet, diabetes in Canada, obesity in Canada etc, You'll find headlines like 'Canadian diet recipe for disaster'. And Canadian diet looks like a dogs breakfast' which begins with this lead sentence: ' The Canadian government has a food disorder, and it's helping to fuel the country's obesity epidemic.

http://www.thestar.c..._breakfast.html

 

 

 

I think ForeverBold just likes to come to the holistic board and be contrary to every topic they come across.    At least that's just what i've noticed.   I see they are banned now....why am I not surprised?


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:48 PM

I'd already posted this in the epigenetics forum, but it occurs to me that it should be part of this discussion as well. 

 

The gist of the article, about Angelina Jolie's mastectomy, is that doctors of all sorts are still operating on faulty pre-genomic mapping beliefs.  Something you need to keep in mind f you or a family member is diagnosed with a serious illness.  

 

(kind of like how your derm is operating on what was in their non-updated textbooks they used back in med school when telling you diet has nothing to do with acne, despite all the proof otherwise. some of which goes back many decades.)

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Interesting article about Angeline Jolie's reaction to having a mutated gene:

http://www.greenmedi...ea2cde-86852581

 

Excerpts: The first bit is what I've already posted here. It turns out our bodies do not have nearly enough genes to account for all the things happening to us.

Despite the commonplace refusal of so-called 'evidence-based medicine' to acknowledge the actual evidence of genetics, we moved into a Post-Genomic era over a decade ago following the completion of first draft of the entire human genome in 2000. At that moment, the central dogma of molecular biology – that our DNA controls protein expression, and therefore disease risk – was disproved. Our genome was found to contain roughly 20,000 genetic instructions – not even enough to account for the 100,000 proteins in the human body!

 

As a result, we must now accept that factors beyond the control of the gene, known as epigenetic factors, and largely determined by a combination of nutrition, psychospiritual states that feed back into our physiology, lifestyle factors, and environmental exposures, constitute as high as 95% of what determines any disease risk. In fact, even the psychological trauma associated with being diagnosed with cancer can drive malignancy via adrenaline-mediated multi-drug resistance,[i] and according to a recent NEJM study, lead up to a 26-fold increased risk of heart-related deaths in the seven days following diagnosis.[ii]

Given this fact, Jolie's decision to have a bilateral mastectomy  in order to excise from her body the breast tissue that contains BRCA1/BRCA2  genes which are known to interfere with the repair of radiation-induced DNA damage, rather than focusing on reducing or eliminating all future radiation exposure from her breasts, or incorporating hundreds of nutritional components experimentally confirmed to protect against radiation and associated genotoxic insults to the breast, reflects a iron clad faith in the inevitability of gene-driven cancer vis-à-vis a fundamentally powerless subject, versus trust in the body's ability to prevent and heal all disease, assuming it has the right conditions.

 

And then it goes on to talk about the common overdiagnosis and overtreatment of breast cancer.

 

Another common misconception is that you either have, or don't have the "BRACA genes," as if they were monolithic entities, ascertained with the black and white certainty of a pregnancy test.  It is a little known fact that thousands of "mutations" in the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes have already been identified and ..

 

These mutations are technically known as gene polymorphisms which are naturally occurring variations of a gene present in more than 1% of the populations.  It will come to many as a surprise to learn that some of these so-called "mutations" actually REDUCE the risk of breast cancer.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:59 AM

Common infections for which you will recover better without the antibiotics

So, I have ABC this Morning on and they just had a doctor talking about recent reports on various conditions for which antibiotics are commonly prescribed but studies have shown you are better off taking nothing.  And not just because of what you are doing to your digestive tract or creating superbugs, etc. but because you'll recover better without them.
 
Urinary tract infections, sinus infections and children's inner ear infections were named.  And they mentioned that sinus infections are most often viral. 

Which is annoying because the last, and only time I can think since my mid twenties, I took antibiotics was for a urinary tract infection they claimed I had even though I had no symptoms. And it was a broad spectrum antibiotic. And a powerful one, I believe.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 07:33 PM

Article about a Nature magazine article about evidence that your gut flora never recovers from antibiotics.

http://www.greenmedi...ure-generations

And, an article about how the P Acnes bacteria that acne suffers and their dermatologists are always trying to Kill are actually your best defense against MRSA infections.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:07 PM

http://www.naturalne...estruction.html

 

http://www.gaia-heal...ne-system.shtml



Wild Oil of Oregano , a natural antibiotic without the harmful effects of RX antibiotics.  (=

 

 

http://www.lewrockwe...rig/sardi6.html

 

http://curingherbs.c...oregano_oil.htm


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 10:33 PM

Article about a Nature magazine article about evidence that your gut flora never recovers from antibiotics.

http://www.greenmedi...ure-generations

And, an article about how the P Acnes bacteria that acne suffers and their dermatologists are always trying to Kildare actually your best defense against MRSA infections.

 

See, reading these types of things depresses me. I was stupid to take antibiotics (and I am sure you feel the same alterntavista), and now I have permanently messed up my gut flora and most likely my health






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