Posted 07 March 2003 - 06:49 PM
The procedure took a total of about 30-45 minutes and he did 10 areas (not exactly sure how many scars - but that's how many bandaids I have on my face). He marked the areas of my face that he was going to do and then put shots in my face to numb the areas. This was really the worst part of it, but still tolerable and I am a wimp! I'm not saying it was enjoyable, so don't get the wrong idea. He used a "nokor" needle. It is rather sharp and triangular in shape with a sort of hollow center (hence no core, I guess). The actual subcision didn't really hurt since I was pretty numb. There were a couple of spots that were a little tender. I think I bled a fair amount - more than I thought I would. That was the most disgusting part to me, but I kept my eyes closed through most of it thank goodness. It made me a little woosy when I saw the blood. I could hear the tethered scar tissue being broken up! It was really strange, but good because I know that it's what's supposed to happen. He told me that normal tissue wouldn't make a popping noise like that if the nokor was used. He put Polysporin on each spot that he subcised and put little round bandaids on each area that he did. He said there might be some swelling and bruising but that I can start back to my normal washing/makeup routine tomorrow! I'll probably wash as normal and put Polysporin on but I'll lay off the makeup for a couple of days -- I'll just hibernate! I have no idea what the results will be but I will keep you guys posted. I am trying to be realistic about my expectations. I am also planning on having N-Lite done, but in about a month. He thinks it's best to do N-Lite once the redness has subsided. I am in a little bit of discomfort (feels like a bruise) but I just took some Tylenol and expect it will kick in soon.
Let me know if you have any questions about my procedure and I'll try to answer them.
Posted 07 March 2003 - 07:18 PM
can you tell us more, like how bad was your scarring before, how deep, wide and how many etc..? any photos?
keep us updated on your progress
Posted 07 March 2003 - 08:29 PM
Posted 07 March 2003 - 08:33 PM
My scarring is moderate to severe, mostly rolling scars not sure of the depth exactly, most of the depressions were smaller than the diameter of a dime, I probably have about 10 of what I consider deep, 10 more medium and 10 or more other types like boxcar and icepick. Rolling scars are supposed to be the type of scars that are most helped by subcision.
I chose my Dr. by calling Dermatologists and Plastic Surgeons in my area. I had several consultations and one of the Plastic Surgeons actually recommended the Dr. I chose.
Posted 07 March 2003 - 09:34 PM
Thank you so much for sharing all that info with us! I'll keep you in my prayers too that all works out well for you! How exciting. Well it sounds like subscision is the best treatment by far these days, so I hope it really helps you. Keep us posted, you know we all are interested in how you'll progress!
Posted 08 March 2003 - 08:48 AM
Posted 08 March 2003 - 11:53 AM
Did your doctor mention whether just 1 treatment would be enough or would you need more?
What interests me is - you say that you think there may have been around 10 needle insertions? How would that cover all your face? (With the needling I am having done for the pitts - each pit is individually needled).
So... is each subcision needle treating a much wider area? That would be useful to know.
Thanks for sharing and hope you have amazing improvements!!
Posted 08 March 2003 - 12:10 PM
The Dr. didn't mention whether just one treatment would be enough. He did say that he felt N-Lite would give even more improvement and that subcision by itself wouldn't give as much of a positive result. I mentioned that I might want to get more subcisions done and he didn't disagree with me.
He didn't do my entire face - He didn't subcise all of the scars that I have, just the deepest ones that he thought would see noticeable improvement. At my consultation we agreed to do the ten deepest and see what the rate of improvement was. I may want to have more scars subcised at a later date.
I have noticed that the bruising I have is much broader than just the insertion of the needle. He was very agressive in going around the area of the insertion point . Not sure that makes sense.... For example: I see a tiny insertion point from the needle itself but the bruising/swelling around it is maybe up to 1 cm around. To me this indicates that he went in a wide area around the insertion point. I think that each subcision can treat a wider area than I previously pictured. This may be this particular Dr.'s technique and maybe other Dr.'s prefer to do many smaller areas with many insertion points. Only time will tell! I am hopeful about seeing some sort of improvement though.
Posted 09 March 2003 - 01:53 AM
Posted 09 March 2003 - 03:03 AM
That is an amazing result - and from what I have read, you will have continued improvement for many weeks to come. Wow, you must be over the moon!
So it does seem that each subcision insertion treated a wider area. I'm surprised you have hardly any bruising - the down time seems very good. (At present, on day 2 after my needling, I am covered in red marks/mini wounds which are beginning to scab - I can't face the public quite yet!)
You're looking good girl!
Posted 09 March 2003 - 03:39 AM
are you going to do the rest of your face soon? because by the looks of things, if you got all your scars done you would have near perfect skin!
I am really impressed, I hope it continues to go well for you.
Posted 09 March 2003 - 03:58 AM
Congratulations. I have an appointment soon so this is very encouraging for me. Subcision seems to winning out over laser.
Posted 09 March 2003 - 08:18 AM
Thank you Tamara for sharing your experience with us and good luck
Posted 09 March 2003 - 10:14 AM
I am not sure if I am going to have all of my scars done - it's going to depend on what the final result of this is (which I expect in 4-6 weeks) and what the doctor has to say about the other areas improving if they are done. He did the majority of the rolling scars since they are the ones that will improve most from this treatment.
I do agree with Ram - There is actually still a small amount of swelling/bruising and I expect it to go down somewhat so it might be a bit too early to judge the results. According to the Dr. he said that the result of Subcision AND N-Lite would be about 20%. I am a bit more hopeful than that, but I'll take whatever improvement I can get.
I am at least hopeful though which is better than I've felt in a long time.
I did dislike hearing from someone here that my scarring looks "very severe" in the first picture, but I guess at least you are being honest. I'm sure you understand that it's not a great feeling to hear that regardless if it's true or not.
Posted 09 March 2003 - 01:27 PM
Posted 09 March 2003 - 01:56 PM