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[gladiatoro]

Yeah. And I can't convince my mother who has had 3 strokes in a little over a year despite not having any of the usual risk factors, that she doesn't eat as well as she thinks she does. She keeps saying she eats a lot of vegetables. And no she doesn't. Except on the days they make something like broccoli or cabbage soup for lunch, she has about a tablespoon of overcooked veggies at dinner. And what amounts to one to one and a half servings of fruit at breakfast.

And she eats a lot of processed foods never reading the labels as they buy the cheapest crap possible. Half her recipes involve crap-filled campbell's or store brand equivalent soup or the cheapest jar of alfredo sauce she can buy. The label on the jar of peanut butter she buys and eats a lot of goes something like: Peanuts, sugar, partially hydrogenated whatever fat, dextrose, HFCS, and various chemicals.

And of course, all animal products are the cheapest money can buy. Despite having local bison and elk producers.

And she's a cokaholic but believes the one or two per day she's cut back to in recent years is 'moderation.'

I don't even bother getting into avoiding plastics.

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Crap in processed foods.

Labels on things should only have a couple of ingredients and they should all be food, herbs, spices, oil (and not hydrogenated).

For example a nut butter label should say nuts, oil, salt.

A jarred tomato pasta sauce should say something like tomatoes, onions, garlic, basil, oil, spices.

Same thing with my mom and arthritis. Father suffers from high cholesterol and is probably diabetic and doesn't know it. It's getting to that point where it's becoming debilitating for my parents and is no longer just a minor inconvenience. I'm trying to plant those seeds of "live healthier = no arthritis/bad cholesterol ratio." They're submitting to it gradually but it's like pulling teeth every step of the way.

Cholesterol isn't the bad guy it's inflammation.http://www.naturalne...Alzheimers.html

http://www.naturalne...ealth_diet.html

[onefatalgoose]

Cholesterol isn't the bad guy it's inflammation.http://www.naturalne...Alzheimers.html

http://www.naturalne...ealth_diet.html

 

I can't tell you how frustrating it is to constantly hear people discussing their cholesterol levels.  And i'm frustrated at the medical industry for using the cholesterol myth to scare people into buying their drugs like lipitor.  If these people only knew that cholesterol is an anti-oxidant that every cell in our body is capable of producing...

 

So these people eat like shit, have shit running through their arteries thus damaging them, and here comes our friend and healer cholesterol to repair the damage, and people start freaking out.  If we cut back on all the horrible vegetable oils and other toxic foods we eat that cause the oxidation of the LDL cholesterol carrying protein...then these people wouldn't have these issues of blocked arteries.  And yet in the medical field, eating raw foods as a way to help restore arterial function gets laughed at.  It's a disease in their minds.  Not a result of a shitty diet and lifestyle

 

 

 

It'd be like if i jumped off a three story building, broke both my legs, had to have them removed...and told people that i was a victim of a disease.  Yeah.  The disease called being an idiot and engaging in harmful activities

Edited by onefatalgoose, 20 March 2013 - 02:46 AM.

[alternativista]

Cholesterol isn't the bad guy it's inflammation.http://www.naturalne...Alzheimers.html
http://www.naturalne...ealth_diet.html

 
I can't tell you how frustrating it is to constantly hear people discussing their cholesterol levels.  And i'm frustrated at the medical industry for using the cholesterol myth to scare people into buying their drugs like lipitor.  If these people only knew that cholesterol is an anti-oxidant that every cell in our body is capable of producing...
 
So these people eat like shit, have shit running through their arteries thus damaging them, and here comes our friend and healer cholesterol to repair the damage, and people start freaking out.  If we cut back on all the horrible vegetable oils and other toxic foods we eat that cause the oxidation of the LDL cholesterol carrying protein...then these people wouldn't have these issues of blocked arteries.  And yet in the medical field, eating raw foods as a way to help restore arterial function gets laughed at.  It's a disease in their minds.  Not a result of a shitty diet and lifestyle
 
 
 
It'd be like if i jumped off a three story building, broke both my legs, had to have them removed...and told people that i was a victim of a disease.  Yeah.  The disease called being an idiot and engaging in harmful activities

Especially since there's only one kind of cholesterol and it isn't bad. And did you know there are more kinds of the lipoproteins that cart cholesterol around than the few they measure and call 'good'. and 'bad?' They just can't measure them so they can't be concerned or drug you for them.

New research claims sugar is responsible for 1 out of every 100 deaths

http://www.hsph.harv...nks-fact-sheet/

Edited by alternativista, 20 March 2013 - 06:29 AM.

[gladiatoro]

Yeah. And I can't convince my mother who has had 3 strokes in a little over a year despite not having any of the usual risk factors, that she doesn't eat as well as she thinks she does. She keeps saying she eats a lot of vegetables. And no she doesn't. Except on the days they make something like broccoli or cabbage soup for lunch, she has about a tablespoon of overcooked veggies at dinner. And what amounts to one to one and a half servings of fruit at breakfast.

 

Eating well is a big part of heart health , the other is exercise it's huge even just walking once per day is beneficial some people are so

 

overweight that they can't do much exercise , but everyone can walk . It's like having dirty oil in your car your car will run but the engine

 

will deteriorate and clog up , you are what you eat. And yes refined sugar is super bad I tend to avoid it. My dad is turning 87 this year

 

and he is in great shape he has been a herbalist his

 

whole life , when he was young he smoked and drank but as he got older he got smarter he always kept a good home made diet

 

and drank lots of herbal teas , ate lots of garlic and kept active even now he still doesn't use a cane and walks  each day.

 

One of the things he takes everyday is a herbal mixture that is incredible for the circulation and heart , it's called Strauss heart drops.

 

A mixture of seven herbs that has amazing health benefits not just for the heart but is a anti-cancer mixture as well due to garlic etc...

 

I would highly recommend this tincture for your mother , here is the link   .https://straussheartdrops.com/ , the future of medicine

 

lies in nutrition and exercise and not in toxic drugs. (=

 

[alternativista]

Good Article:  'What are we Eating?'

 

http://www.nationofc...ting-1365088476

 

 

The Simple Numbers:

The average American is 36.6 years old and eats 1,996.3 lbs. of food per year. The average man is 59 and weighs 190 lbs. The average woman is 54 and weighs 164 lbs.

Each year, Americans eat 85.5 lbs. of fats and oils. They eat 110 lbs. of red meat, including 62.4 lbs. of beef and 46.5 lbs. of pork. Americans eat 73.6 lbs. of poultry, including 60.4 lbs. of chicken. They eat 16.1 lbs. of fish and shellfish and 32.7 lbs. of eggs.

Americans eat a whopping 35 lbs. of mercury tainted and neurotoxic HFCS linked to obesity, diabetes, and pancreatic cancer each year.  That’s in addition to the already excessive 47 lbs. of table sugar they eat which has recently been sourced primarily from GMO sugar beets that have outcompeted the healthier and more environmentally friendly cane sugar industry.

Americans eat 31.4 lbs. of cheese each year and 600.5 lbs. of non-cheese dairy products. They drink 181 lbs. of beverage milks. Americans eat 192.3 lbs. of flour and cereal products, including 134.1 lbs. of wheat flour. They eat 141.6 lbs. of caloric sweeteners, including 42 lbs. of corn syrup. Americans consume 56 lbs. of (mostly GMO) corn each year and eat 415.4 lbs. of vegetables. Every year, Americans eat 24 lbs. of coffee, cocoa and nuts. Americans eat 273.2 lbs. of fruit each year.

These foods include 29 lbs. of French fries, 23 lbs. of pizza and 24 lbs. of ice cream. Americans drink 53 gallons of soda each year, averaging about one gallon each week. Americans eat 24 lbs. of artificial sweeteners each year. They eat 2.736 lbs. of sodium, which is 47 percent more than recommended. Americans consume 0.2 lbs. of caffeine each year, about 90,700 mg. In total, Americans eat an average of 2,700 calories each day although the USDA recommends no more than 2,000.

 

 

And:

 

http://www.nationofc...rule-1365083260

 

 

 The U.S.'s move towards industrialization in the 19th century ushered in major changes in agriculture. The focus shifted to creating an abundance of affordable food for a growing population while simultaneously reducing the number of people laboring in the fields, in order to free them up for work in the factories. The need for more food with less labor meant more mechanization and therefore bigger farms. The emergence of vast farms required that food travel long distances, and went hand-in-hand with the creation of companies to transport, package, and process the food. Over the years, food has become increasingly commodified, that is, converted from nourishment to a mass-marketed consumer product.

 

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• Just four companies own approximately 84 percent of the U.S. beef market;

• Four firms control 66 percent of the pork-packing market and another four control 58 percent of poultry processing;

• Four companies own 43 percent of the world's commercial seed market;

• Three companies control 90 percent of the global grain trade; and

• Four companies own 48 percent of grocery retailers.

Edited by alternativista, 04 April 2013 - 12:24 PM.

[onefatalgoose]

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Gross

[alternativista]

Study in which they measure all the bad postprandial affects of eating a hamburger and compared to effects of eating a hamburger with some avocado.  The vasoconstriction, inflammatory responses, etc were greatly reduced.  This is why you eat a lot of real foods. Especially plant foods that aren't mashed or fried potatoes or grains.  The good counters/provides the nutrients needed to manage/helps recover from the bad.

 

http://www.greenmedi...nd-postprandial

 

http://www.greenmedi...burger-less-bad