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Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:54 PM

Hey Betsy. I like the new name.. it's kinda dark and intersting Posted Image Good to hear about bacitracin. Might use that if I need to. It seemed like my dermatologist was reluctant to prescribe me anything for my lips and suggested to just continue to use aquaphor.

Day 38:
- Big stinkin zit (mentioned on Day 34) inflated in the middle of my eyebrows. Hopefully it will go away soon. It's really my only active acne right now, except that a few started sprouting on my shoulders (which is irregular). I wonder if the extra dosage is causing them to surface and be flushed out.
- My lips have been off and on with peeling. I have been applying aquaphor more often and that seems to be helping. Overnight is when they seem to worsen.
- Still continuing with shampooing less often. Only yesterday it was really itchy for some reason so I used shampoo one day early to prevent flaking.
- Rash on hands went away (for now), which is great! I've been applying lotion to them every night and sometimes during the day and that may have helped.

Edited by White Stang, 03 April 2012 - 09:55 PM.

My Accutane Log
Started February 24, 2012
5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

Hey Betsy. I like the new name.. it's kinda dark and intersting Posted Image Good to hear about bacitracin. Might use that if I need to. It seemed like my dermatologist was reluctant to prescribe me anything for my lips and suggested to just continue to use aquaphor.

Day 38:
- Big stinkin zit (mentioned on Day 34) inflated in the middle of my eyebrows. Hopefully it will go away soon. It's really my only active acne right now, except that a few started sprouting on my shoulders (which is irregular). I wonder if the extra dosage is causing them to surface and be flushed out.
- My lips have been off and on with peeling. I have been applying aquaphor more often and that seems to be helping. Overnight is when they seem to worsen.
- Still continuing with shampooing less often. Only yesterday it was really itchy for some reason so I used shampoo one day early to prevent flaking.
- Rash on hands went away (for now), which is great! I've been applying lotion to them every night and sometimes during the day and that may have helped.


Thanks Brian, I have no idea why I even changed the name.. I guess because I could haha I don't know. Anyways, I don't know if my dr. will prescribe me anything for my lips either. I am going to ask her to never the less. I assume she will, she's all about making me happy and comfortable. My luck this will change now that I want something to make me more comfortable haha. Good to know the rash has cleared up on your hands. That must have been uncomfortable. I was going to ask you, do you flake skin all over your face or just in certain areas? I have noticed the only part of my face that is drying out so far is my chin. Sometimes I flake around my nose but most the time it's just my chin. Kind of odd I was thinking. I can tell I am drying out in general because I am now able to go every other day with the hair washing. I started taking biotin just to make sure I'm not losing any hair though. I would be devastated if my hair was falling out. Anything I can do to help prevent that is awesome.

Glad to hear things are going good with you :)

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:05 PM

Neat to hear you're trying every other day with the shampoo!

And yeah, in the beginning I was experiencing dryness all over my face. But for the past 2-3 weeks it has been mostly my mouth/chin/nose/eyebrow area that has been dry and flaky. I find that after I shower in the morning and moisturize, if I go eat something or yawn or anything that stretches the skin around my mouth area, it starts flaking again. So I have to re-moisturize. Sometimes this happens a couple times and then it's gone for the rest of the day. Is it like this for you too or just me? Posted Image Maybe it is different if you apply make-up, not sure.

Edited by White Stang, 04 April 2012 - 10:05 PM.

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Started February 24, 2012
5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
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Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:19 PM

Oh that happens to me too. I am moisturizing to keep the flaking at bay 3 times a day. Makeup doesn't help the situation at all. Half your face looks raw and peeling the other half looks nice and matte. I try not to wear makeup any longer than I need to. If I'm home for the day my makeup is off within 5 minutes so I can moisturize. Wearing the makeup makes me feel like I am being counter productive. I'm taking all the meds and creams so help my skin and unclog my pores, then I cover it all with a bunch of junk. A necessary evil for me until I clear up better, I suppose.

I can't wait for my skin on my cheeks start to flake honestly, help clear away those red marks. Do you have a lot of hyper pigmentation? It's hard for me to tell how much I have but I know after the accutane there is going to be work to do still, as far as the pigmentation. I have a plan with that though. I'm going to try black and white skin bleaching cream as soon as its safe and fade those babies away. One day at a time though!

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

Never thought about flaking helping get rid of the scars. Is that true? If so, that's encouraging.

What do you mean by hyperpigmentation? You mean scares due to acne or something else?
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Month 2 - 60mg
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:17 PM

Never thought about flaking helping get rid of the scars. Is that true? If so, that's encouraging.

What do you mean by hyperpigmentation? You mean scares due to acne or something else?


Hyper pigmentation meaning red marks or brown marks due to acne. As far as the shedding of the new skin. My dermatologist explained accutane like retin a. It helps turn over the skin cells and encourage new skin growth. Thus shedding away our old skin with the marks from the acne and pushing up new skin that is clear. I don't think it will help with any scars like rolling or box car or ice pick scars anything that is indented in the skin

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 01:35 PM

Well that's great because I do have red scars, all but a couple are not indented. Thank you for telling me about this.
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Month 2 - 60mg
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:42 PM

Zit zit go away,
Do not come again another day.

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Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:24 PM

Noooooo kidding, I'm over this acne. I want it to go and stay away so bad.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:20 AM

Darn the rash that was on my hands is back :(
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Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:01 AM

That's weird because the same thing has happened to me. I've started putting moisturiser on it again. I guess it came back because I stopped.

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Month 2 - 20mg/day

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

Wow, that is pretty weird actually.

I think there is correlation between washing/wetting the hands too much and also not moisturizing them often enough that causes the rash. Mine went away when I was moisturizing my hands 1-2 (sometimes 3) times a day, but since it went away I mostly only moisturized them once a day.
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5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
Month 5 - 60mg

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:41 PM

Day 45:

- Fortunately the pimple in the middle of my eyebrows has scabbed away and is now healing. Unfortunately, a new one popped up on the side of my forehead >.>
- My scalp has been a bit itchier than normal the past few days. I need to be careful not to scratch it and make it start flaking again.
- Still shampooing every-other 1-2 days, depending on itchiness/oiliness of my scalp/hair.
- Rash still on my hands Posted Image
- Still continuously battling with my lips. However, I bought some Bacitraycin as suggested by Betsy (Thank you!) and am applying it at night. It seems to help as I wake up with my lips less dry and flaky. I also am paying conscious attention to not lick my lips too much. These things appear to be helping, even if it is still a battle.

Edited by White Stang, 09 April 2012 - 11:03 PM.

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Started February 24, 2012
5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
Month 5 - 60mg

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

Hey hows it going so far?

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:20 PM

Hey, it's been pretty much the usual.

Day 49:

- Pimple on side of forehead gone. Another one popped up on my cheek but quickly went away. One appeared last night on my cheek, closer to my chin - fortunately it's small so it will probably go away soon. Overall, it is pretty clear right now Posted Image
- My scalp has been better. Less itchy. I find that the more I can avoid touching, scratching, or itching it, the better off it is.
- Eczema on hands has mostly gone away for now. I need to really keep them moisturized now so hopefully it doesn't come backPosted Image
- My lips are a miserably situation. Without a doubt, the peeling and cracking is the worst symptom I'm experiencing at the moment. No matter what I do, it just doesn't seem to get much better. My Aquaphor tube is starting to deplete because I'm having to use it so often. To top it off, my mouth cracked again in the corner where the lips meet, which hurts and takes a while to go away. Hopefully my dermatologist can give me some tips or something. I don't want to be battling this for 3 more months.

Seeing my dermatologist this coming Thursday, by the way.

Edited by White Stang, 13 April 2012 - 10:35 PM.

My Accutane Log
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5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
Month 5 - 60mg

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:59 AM

Hey, it's been pretty much the usual.

Day 49:

- Pimple on side of forehead gone. Another one popped up on my cheek but quickly went away. One appeared last night on my cheek, closer to my chin - fortunately it's small so it will probably go away soon. Overall, it is pretty clear right now Posted Image
- My scalp has been better. Less itchy. I find that the more I can avoid touching, scratching, or itching it, the better off it is.
- Eczema on hands has mostly gone away for now. I need to really keep them moisturized now so hopefully it doesn't come backPosted Image
- My lips are a miserably situation. Without a doubt, the peeling and cracking is the worst symptom I'm experiencing at the moment. No matter what I do, it just doesn't seem to get much better. My Aquaphor tube is starting to deplete because I'm having to use it so often. To top it off, my mouth cracked again in the corner where the lips meet, which hurts and takes a while to go away. Hopefully my dermatologist can give me some tips or something. I don't want to be battling this for 3 more months.

Seeing my dermatologist this coming Thursday, by the way.


Sounds like things are looking up for you! That is awesome, I'm at day 33 and still haven't seen much improvement. I saw my dermatologist Thursday of this last week and she claims that she see a huge improvement. I've been taking weekly pictures to compare and I think she's lying haha. Oh well, I'm only starting my second month I know things start to turn around this month for most people and month 3 is supposed to be that magical month where you clear! So things should start really happening with you. About the lips mine are really bad to so my derm kept me at 40 MG for this month. Kinda bummed I was hoping for a higher dose so my course could go alittle faster. Anyway my dermatologist gave me prescription ointment for the lips. It's a mixed compound of Mupirocin 2% and Desonide 0.05%
I've only been using it for 2 days so I'm not noticing any huge improvement yet. She said it would heal them up so hopefully it does soon. I would see if yours can give you something like that, your right the lips are terrible to deal with aren't they. I thought ohh chapped lips big deal. These lips aren't chapped, they are a whole different animal. I'm starting to think that there is no way to help them.

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:35 AM

Day 52:

Things seem to be getting worse for some reason.

Cons:
- Over the past 2-3 days, my nose has seemed to constantly have blood in it when I've blown my nose. But it's not runny blood.
- Lips are getting ridiculous. Doesn't seem like the aquaphor does much, but I think the Bacitraycin at night helps reduce the peeling (or is it making the condition worse overall? hmm..)
- The eczema on my hands spread a tad up my left arm, but only a few small splotches. It also broke out further on my hands, however I believe that is due to repeatedly needing to wash my hands after working on fixing my greasy car.

Pros:
- I don't think I have a single active acne spot on my face at the current moment in time, at least none that are noticeable Posted Image
- Red marks and scars seem to be fading in certain spots slowly.
- Head still staying relatively flake-free. Continuing regimen of T-Sal shampoo every other 1 or 2 days.


@Betsy -
I think I know what you're feeling to some extent with the dosage. This increase in side effects means I will probably not be bumped up in dosage anytime soon if the side effects continue at this level. But I guess there's a point at which you have to be reasonable and understand that increasing the dosage may do more harm than good.

One thing I read, when I was switched from Amnesteem to Clavaris, was some people on the forums saying they believed Clavaris caused more intense side-effects than Amnesteem. It doesn't seem like this would be true since they're supposed to be the same drug, but it certainly seems like there has been a significant increase in side effects for me since I switched. But it may just be due to the increased dosage and progression of my course.

P.S. off to get a blood test tomorrow (if I can remember not to eat in the morning :P) and derm appt on Thursday.

Edited by White Stang, 17 April 2012 - 12:42 AM.

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Started February 24, 2012
5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
Month 5 - 60mg

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 09:33 AM

Brian,
I have had some dried blood in my nose too. I have just been putting vaseline up each nostril a couple times a day and that seems to be helping. I heard sleeping with a humidifer really helps too. I haven't tried that out myself, I haven't found that I need to do that yet.

Lips are terrible! I swear nothing helps them. Since getting the prescription ointment from the Dr. my lips have split on each side of the bottom lip and actually bled a tiny bit. I am convinced the Bacitraycin was helping in the beginning and not so much anymore. Maybe it is making the condition worse after all?!?! Yikes. I don't know anymore. I am starting to think there is no helping them and it is just going to be a nightmare the entire time. Although I have seen on a few logs that after sometime into the course the lips just seem to get better. Who knows if it is really better or they just got used to it. I am thinking about trying a vitamin E based chap stick. Burts Bee's makes one. My only issue is using something on a stick. I think it will just crack my lips further with the dragging motion. I have been using thing in little tubs to avoid that.

About the Amnesteem to Clavaris, I wonder if that is true. I have been on Clavaris from the start so I can't comment on that. I think that the only difference with the generics are the fillers they use in the medication. If I remember correctly the active ingredients have to be the same. 70% the same as the name brand and 30% is different but its only the fillers. I would imagine the fillers could effect us differently though. Interesting. Why did you switch brands? Different pharmacy? Your doctor has you fast before your blood tests? Mine doesn't that is weird!

Hope your appt goes well!
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Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

Lol I'm about to scoop one of every lip treatment item off the shelf at the store and try it. But it would be great if the lips would get better over the course of the treatment. I will ask my derm about that if I can remember.

And about the stick balm - I don't know if your lips are in the same situation as mine, but my upper lip isn't peeling much at all. So when I apply balm it helps to put it on my upper lip then use that lip to smear it around on my lower lip. You can also try applying it vertically rather than horizontally. Also, the Nivea "Kiss of Moisture" balm is what I've been using and it doesn't appear to work well. It keeps my lips moisturized (read: wet) but doesn't really heal them. The Aquaphor heals them but doesn't keep my lips moisturized -_-

I had to switch to Clavaris because they don't make a 30mg or 60mg Amnesteem supposedly. So I have to take 2x30mg Clavaris. I guess if I do ever get bumped up to 80mg then I could go back on Amnesteem Posted Image But yeah, I'm not sure if it matters anyway. It's probably all psychological lol.

Edited by White Stang, 17 April 2012 - 10:24 AM.

My Accutane Log
Started February 24, 2012
5 month course

Month 1 - 40mg
Month 2 - 60mg
Month 3 - 60mg
Month 4 - 60mg
Month 5 - 60mg

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 01:29 PM

Do ask your derm that! I forgot to ask mine. I always come home from a derm appt and think damn it I forgot to ask about this and that.

My lips are in the same state as yours. My upper lip seems just fine... I wonder why that is. I will try the lip on applying vertically. Maybe I can cut the chap stick out of the tube and kind of smash it into a tub and I can apply it that way. I don't know I am going to mess around with that idea for awhile. I just wish there was something that we KNEW would work. I don't know why there is such a hype about the Aquaphor. Doesn't work for me at all. It worked well when my lips weren't dry and chapped. I don't need anything when my lips are fine though!

Let me know what your derm says about the lips! :)