Posted 18 January 2012 - 08:45 AM
Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:08 PM
Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:33 PM
So I've been taking 1 g of cinnamon during lunch, and 1 g of cinnamon during my dinner meal, and haven't had any new acne, and practically no oil, since starting this regimen. My face skin is actually quite dry at the moment and reminds me of the time when I started my first month's dose of accutane. Just wanted to share my update! The cinnamon seems to be very effective so far, regarding my own particular case.
How bad was your acne and oil when you started?
Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:26 PM
Posted 20 January 2012 - 05:31 PM
I had been previously using spironolactone which helped my acne considerably, but in its "natural state" without any interventions it's quite bad, very very oily, and lost of pimples on my chin and forehead areas. The spironolactone had lessened the oil and acne, but nothing near a cure. I've already noticed a verifiable effect with the cinnamon, and it's worked just as quickly (overnight difference) as when I used saw palmetto. The saw palmetto worked like a charm, but I was a bit paranoid that it was giving me "brain fog".
I'm glad to hear it worked so fast for you. So far you and ChrisTOPHER1992 are the only ones who reported results.
This is really interesting. I have managed to become clear from eating a very restrictive diet (no non-natural sugar, meats, dairy, high glycemic meals, wheat etc) but anytime I falter with the diet I pay for it with my skin. I am going to try this and see if it helps, thanks for the information!
this is very interesting. I learned in nursing that it is recommmended for diabetics to take cinammon because it helps insulin in managing glucose levels. I think I'm going to try the cinnamon capsules. How much were they?
Do you two have any results? Are you still using cinnamon?
Dreamingofclearskin2011: Did you start using it again?
I really think the OP is onto something. I found out everyone goes through a state of insulin resistance during puberty. http://diabetes.diab...0/2039.full.pdf I also found one of Sweetjade1980's brilliant posts from like 9 years ago. http://www.acne.org/...bertyadulthood/
I may have to try this soon...
Posted 20 January 2012 - 06:02 PM
I just found another website that says steroids cause insulin resistance. http://www.medicinen...nce/article.htm And everyone knows steroids cause acne. There are so many things pointing to insulin resistance causing acne, it's ridiculous.
Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:04 PM
Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:37 PM
Could it be a coincidence that the only supplements that helped my acne, zinc and taurine, both appear on that list?
Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:38 PM
My thoughts - I firmly believe in the insulin resistance link to acne, as well as the food allergy connection in the form of glutenous and milk-based products, although all acne is different. As poster Dotty has mentioned in other threads, this resistance is probably related to a much bigger issue, and I would probably go to my doctor and have it tested if I wasn't traveling so much at the moment.
If you have responded well to a low glycemic diet, saw palmetto, spironolactone, etc., I would check into seeing if your acne is related to how your body deals with insulin. Omnivium posted a great past thread which compiled a lot of invaluable, journal-published information in this regard.
I'll try to give another update next week, since the cinnamon seems to be just working so damn well, and acne has shamefully and unnecessarily been one of the major banes of my teenager to adult life, just like many of you here - I would be glad to share any positive experiences.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:34 AM
I'm starting to believe cinnamon could be the best single supplement for acne patients out there!
I've been doing quite a bit more research lately, trying to work backwards to figure out what can cause insulin resistance(besides poor diet of course), since I'm confident now that insulin resistance is very likely a cause of acne in most individuals.
2 studies I read about really interested me, especially once I found a link between then. One found that nearly 90% of acne patients are chromium deficient-one of the key minerals in maintaining blood sugar. The other suggested that up to 60% of the population has imbalanced intestinal flora.
Now I'm sure everyone has heard about probiotics, but some of the side effects of imbalanced intestinal flora were increased serum cholesterol, inability to manage causes of diabetes(long term insulin problems), poor digestion, and the inability to properly absorb vitamins and minerals. That's a lot of things that could lead to acne! I'm not saying everyone's acne can be lead all the way back to this, however, as of now that's the farthest back I can go to find a "deeper problem."
However, I also found that low stomach acid and imbalanced intestinal flora can be related. What does low stomach acid cause?
To name a few:
Multiple Food Allergies
Adrenal Fatigue--The adrenals control hormones secreted in the body, including Cortisol. Cortisol is considered the death hormone or stress hormone, but when it isn't constantly stressed out, it actually helps many things including metabolizing of proteins, fats, and carbs, and REGULATES INSULIN IN BREAKING DOWN SUGAR.
HOWEVER::: Basically, when cortisol is constantly being secreted, it actually does the opposite and can cause hormonal imbalances and high blood sugar.
Anyway, the reason I find this extremely interesting is because cinnamon is known for its "anti-inflammatory" effects and "promoting blood sugar metabolism" or whatever. But it also promotes beneficial bacterial growth by killing off bad bacteria in the stomach, leading me to believe that the biggest, main cause of acne can be cured by re balancing the bacteria in the stomach.
Before you say "I've tried probiotics and they didn't work", I want to stress that cinnamon isn't a probiotic, but works in the same sort of way by killing off bad bacteria. That being said, the reason most probiotics do not work is because most people don't get refrigerated probiotics.
There was a report I found that showed in the refrigerated products, there was some beneficial bacteria but fewer than the label stated. However, 50%..... 50% of non-refrigerated probiotics were completely dead! Dead probiotics help in no way whatsoever, and most probiotics require refrigeration to remain living. That being said, they found that even the refrigerated probiotics were sometimes contaminated by microorganisms, and while they can't show any signs of infection from contaminated probiotics, they suggest they provide very little benefit. Which is why cinnamon may be the answer! You don't have to worry about the cinnamon living or not. It just kills the bad stuff!! And since bacteria occur naturally in the stomach and fight for their place, killing the bad bacteria should allow the good to thrive again, leading to balanced intestinal flora, proper stomach acid, proper insulin and blood sugar regulation, and the fixation of hormonal imbalance if this is indeed the overall cause. With today's processed foods, easy accessibility of antibiotics, and so on, it could very well be a factor worth considering. It could also explain why cinnamon has such a fast effect, as maybe the cinnamon is constantly fightin off bad bacteria, leading to all the better things that can combat acne.
Anyway, had a lot on my mind to tell you guys. Hope I didn't overdo it and cause confusion! Let me know if you have questions!
Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:20 AM
Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:38 AM
Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:49 AM
LOL i was only messin with you bro. i make take a look at some lavender oil myself if my new regimen does not work. does it work as a spot treat even if you havent popped? i almost caved and bought tee tree oil last night! but i didnt.
Ha ha ha, yes it does. My point is that acne has MANY different causes, so kill it from all angles.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 11:33 AM
hey chris so you think that cinnamon is killing bad bacteria? or do you think that its putting good bacteria into our system? i dont think it actually has any bacteria in it in general but if it was actually killing bacteria bacteria that would be cool. but then you have to think maybe its just like an antibiotic that kills both good and bad bacteria? in that case you are right we would need to take a probiotic with the cinnamon to gain good bacteria in the end. with out any good bacteria at all we are likely to gain the symptoms that you mentioned above as well! good info though man i appreciate the research! i will probably start taking cinnamon again once my acne starts to clear up more from the breakut i recenetly had (still dont know if it was from yogurt or cinnamon) so if this does kill bad bacteria that would definately be another good reason to take cinnmon on the plus of it already helping control insulin. have you ever noticed fat people that have diabetes that take cinnmon having acne? haha idk ive never askeda fat person with diabetes with no acne if they actually take cinnmon or not..hmmm
Haha. Good questions. For the first one, cinnamon is known to kill bad bacteria and be anti-fungal, however it is not known to kill good bacteria, unlike antibiotics which kill off both. As for fat people, diabetes, and acne, I'm not sure how to explain that, other than saying maybe insulin and blood sugar can affect acne in some, but not all, which is why maybe the deeper problem could be dealing with stomach acid problems or intestinal imbalance, which can both lead to insulin problems. Therefore, perhaps helping insulin control blood sugar CAN help acne, but since some can have type 2 diabetes and not have acne, it seems there must be a different overall cause. I'm going to do some more research about it and see if I can put some stuff together. I'll post back when I've got some more insight on the issue.
Posted 23 January 2012 - 06:00 PM
Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:55 AM
So it turns out a good percentage of people in America have imbalanced intestinal flora as I mentioned before. That can lead to many things, including digestion problems, blood sugar problems, etc. Well I got more interested as I noticed a day ago that my tongue is completely pink, instead of being white and rough, like it has been for years, which I later found out was either from dehydration or possibly candida.( I'm guessing the latter as I rarely drink anything but water.) I've said before that cinnamon helps kill bacteria and is anti-fungal. However, I found that unlike probiotics, cinnamon actually makes it to the bloodstream and kills those too. It's actually impossible for the probiotics to get to the bloodstream and regain control. I also found that unless you find a brand of probiotics that have an enteric coating, the probiotics are almost guaranteed to die due to the stomach's acidity, another reason that probiotics may not have worked for some who have tried them.
Apparently, the "bad stuff" that makes its way into the bloodstream can actually bind to receptors and keep important hormones from reaching them! This can affect many things throughout the body, including making the liver work harder. Our bodies are constantly trying to clear out our blood, causing stress (which as menfioned before releases cortisol, which really messes up the regulation of blood sugar) and many other negative side effects, including also insulin resistance. <This is because the liver helps regulate blood sugar by secreting less glucose when insulin is present. Apparently, some have livers that don't reduce the secretion when it should, therefore making the insulin do more work, causing worse insulin spikes and insulin resistance, leading ultimately to acne. I believe cinnamon works by killing the stuff in the blood that's keeping our bodies from functioning normally with regards to blood sugar. It also helps the overall intestinal balance, which can benefit us in many other ways, one of importance being digestion.
I was also more astonished when I found that the majority of our bodies immunity is Located in the gut. Which means with an imbalance comes a weaker immune system.
What causes an imbalance?
Sugar-almost everything we can find on the shelves today contains high fructose corn syrup or a related form
Milk and animal meat that were given antibiotics or steroids, in other words, non-organic.
When those cause an imbalance and the immune system starts working too hard, side effects can include food allergies and celiac's disease to name a couple. I believe dotty said she had celiac's disease, and she claimed cinnamon cured her acne. Hmm...
To me this makes great sense, as I look back on my past-- 1. Our generation and its antibiotic use is ridiculous. 2. My diet consisted of nothing but milk, meat, and fast food until I was told milk could be "the cause". Funny also how i stated before that when I gave up milk my acne got better, and when I gave up meat it yet again got even slightly better.
If you haven't started supplementing cinnamon yet, I really encourage you to.
I'm also adding enteric-coated probiotics to my routine. If you want to do the same, make sure to find one that is enteric-coated and doesn't say "amount when manufactured" or something along those lines---that usually means "there were this many bacteria when created but there won't be that many when consumed".
If youre still not convinced, do some research on the side effects of imbalanced intestinal flora and the many diseases that can be linked back to it. Maybe you'll find acne isn't the only side effect you have that could be caused by that.
Edit::I also forgot to mention 2 things. One was regarding an earlier post from someone stating that deficiencies, even in the western world are rare. I'd like to say this should be true for a normal individual, but not for an individual with imbalances. When balanced, our bodies can make its own forms of nutrients to absorb, basically to get nutrients even from the worst foods. When imbalanced though, our body can't absorb nutrients as well unless they are already there. The second thing was regarding people that say "they've got their acne under control on a very strict diet, but if they falter they are guaranteed to see the results in their skin." I wanted to mention this to help explain what I've been finding. The beneficial bacteria are supposed to greatly outnumber and control the bad bacteria. However, once the bad have taken over, it takes more than just a cut-out diet to reverse the problem. What's happening with these people I believe is that they are merely giving themselves a pain-killer. The analogy is that we can take a pain-killer to reduce the pain, but once we stop taking it the pain will come back if the bigger problem isn't solved. It's temporary relief. The cut-out diet is simply keeping our bodies poor use of insulin from spiking, resulting in less acne, when in actuality, the bigger problem must be solved in order for the acne not to come back when one cheats on their diet. (From the analogy, the wound must heal in order for the pain to be non-existent without the pain-killers.) Anyway...
Hopefully I've left enough for you to think about!
As always, leave a reply if you have questions!
Edited by ChrisTOPHER1992, 24 January 2012 - 06:16 AM.
Posted 24 January 2012 - 10:16 AM