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Why Don't Asians/ Japanese Have Perfect Skin If They Eat Loads Of Rice?

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If grains are just empty carbs and deplete nutrients according to the paleo diet, then why do asians have such perfect skin in their culture? Do they balance those empty carbs with all that raw fish? Cause if you expose an asian to a Western diet, they will get a terrible case of acne usually.

Also i have developed a serious case of dandruff in the past few days! I have not hand dandruff for years! I just got this Sunday! I think my B vitamin levels are getting really bad (biotin perhaps?). Biotin deficiency is linked to dandruff.

I have been eating a lot! I mean a lot of meat! Ham and Beef in particular. I haven't been getting loads of greens, and i am sure my little inside critters aren't that happy, cause they have never been able to get balanced exactly.

I think that getting the perfect harmonious body, with a correct diet, will automatically fix candida. So nutritional yeast, I am going to get some. I think that is why homemade bread use to taste so good to me when I was younger. The natural yeast in it.

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no fucking way. i'm asian and i think caucasians have such perfect skin in their culture. what does this tells you? yes, it's true! the majority of them has it. acne only happens to the minority and acne scarring? oh god please take me now.

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no fucking way. i'm asian and i think caucasians have such perfect skin in their culture. what does this tells you? yes, it's true! the majority of them has it. acne only happens to the minority and acne scarring? oh god please take me now.

Where do you live?

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If grains are just empty carbs and deplete nutrients according to the paleo diet, then why do asians have such perfect skin in their culture? Do they balance those empty carbs with all that raw fish? Cause if you expose an asian to a Western diet, they will get a terrible case of acne usually.

Also i have developed a serious case of dandruff in the past few days! I have not hand dandruff for years! I just got this Sunday! I think my B vitamin levels are getting really bad (biotin perhaps?). Biotin deficiency is linked to dandruff.

I have been eating a lot! I mean a lot of meat! Ham and Beef in particular. I haven't been getting loads of greens, and i am sure my little inside critters aren't that happy, cause they have never been able to get balanced exactly.

I think that getting the perfect harmonious body, with a correct diet, will automatically fix candida. So nutritional yeast, I am going to get some. I think that is why homemade bread use to taste so good to me when I was younger. The natural yeast in it.

That is such a drastic stereotype to make. Have you ever been to Asia or Japan? I have. It is similar to the USA, there are people with it, and there are people without it. You would never know that unless you went to a country (can't believe you are throwing the whole continent under the bus here) and intermingled with its peoples. Huge assumption on your end of the spectrum. Certain shampoos can cause dandruff, SLS dries out the skin. Might want to think about switching to a gentler shampoo.

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If grains are just empty carbs and deplete nutrients according to the paleo diet, then why do asians have such perfect skin in their culture? Do they balance those empty carbs with all that raw fish? Cause if you expose an asian to a Western diet, they will get a terrible case of acne usually.

Also i have developed a serious case of dandruff in the past few days! I have not hand dandruff for years! I just got this Sunday! I think my B vitamin levels are getting really bad (biotin perhaps?). Biotin deficiency is linked to dandruff.

I have been eating a lot! I mean a lot of meat! Ham and Beef in particular. I haven't been getting loads of greens, and i am sure my little inside critters aren't that happy, cause they have never been able to get balanced exactly.

I think that getting the perfect harmonious body, with a correct diet, will automatically fix candida. So nutritional yeast, I am going to get some. I think that is why homemade bread use to taste so good to me when I was younger. The natural yeast in it.

That is such a drastic stereotype to make. Have you ever been to Asia or Japan? I have. It is similar to the USA, there are people with it, and there are people without it. You would never know that unless you went to a country (can't believe you are throwing the whole continent under the bus here) and intermingled with its peoples. Huge assumption on your end of the spectrum. Certain shampoos can cause dandruff, SLS dries out the skin. Might want to think about switching to a gentler shampoo.

I don't use shampoo, but I have been to shanghai for modeling and everyone had very clear skin, and they ate tons of rice, and vegetable dishes, and they don't really eat bread.

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If grains are just empty carbs and deplete nutrients according to the paleo diet, then why do asians have such perfect skin in their culture? Do they balance those empty carbs with all that raw fish? Cause if you expose an asian to a Western diet, they will get a terrible case of acne usually.

Also i have developed a serious case of dandruff in the past few days! I have not hand dandruff for years! I just got this Sunday! I think my B vitamin levels are getting really bad (biotin perhaps?). Biotin deficiency is linked to dandruff.

I have been eating a lot! I mean a lot of meat! Ham and Beef in particular. I haven't been getting loads of greens, and i am sure my little inside critters aren't that happy, cause they have never been able to get balanced exactly.

I think that getting the perfect harmonious body, with a correct diet, will automatically fix candida. So nutritional yeast, I am going to get some. I think that is why homemade bread use to taste so good to me when I was younger. The natural yeast in it.

That is such a drastic stereotype to make. Have you ever been to Asia or Japan? I have. It is similar to the USA, there are people with it, and there are people without it. You would never know that unless you went to a country (can't believe you are throwing the whole continent under the bus here) and intermingled with its peoples. Huge assumption on your end of the spectrum. Certain shampoos can cause dandruff, SLS dries out the skin. Might want to think about switching to a gentler shampoo.

I don't use shampoo, but I have been to shanghai for modeling and everyone had very clear skin, and they ate tons of rice, and vegetable dishes, and they don't really eat bread.

Well, they do have KFC and Mcdonalds now, and apparently they love both.

Did you recently stop using shampoo? Cuz if you did that dandruff only last for a little while (around 2 weeks), until the skin on top of the head becomes normalized in the oil production. Just keep on rinsing your hair in the shower like you would with soap.

If you have been using no shampoo for a long time and this all of a sudden happened, I have no idea what it could be.

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Asians have acne.

Also the Asian diet is full of very healthy things. The Western diet is not.

As far as grains go, rice is ok. Wheat is worse and what do Westerners eat? Wheat. What does the Asian diet include lots of? vegetables. What's lacking in the Western diet? Vegetables.

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After suffering with acne since age 11, finally found my triggers 11 years later.

Clear for almost 1 year & in control of my acne, although due to some hyperpigmentation, I believed I was still breaking out. In fact, I thought I had just cleared up a few months ago, but after realizing my "breakouts" were simply scarring I also realized I was technically clear for much longer than I thought. Rare breakouts only whenever I get lazy with my diet.

The Cure for Acne:

-Avoid the Acne Trifecta: Soy, Gluten, and Dairy like the plague.

-Eat a Low-GI diet and avoid Sugar.

-Eat lots of protein and healthy fats (ANTIBIOTIC FREE/NO HORMONES ADDED/FREE RANGE/HUMANELY SLAUGHTERED)

-Get lots of green vegetables and sunshine.

-Supplement whenever possible. Due to how much we've ruined food in the past 60 years, the amount of nutrients found in food nowadays is lower than it was decades ago.

-Exercise, get sunshine, and avoid stressful situations.

-Don't fear food. Go out & eat. It's not good for the skin, but it's good for the soul.


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Asians have acne.

Also the Asian diet is full of very healthy things. The Western diet is not.

As far as grains go, rice is ok. Wheat is worse and what do Westerners eat? Wheat. What does the Asian diet include lots of? vegetables. What's lacking in the Western diet? Vegetables.

Chucky! I also don't get how they eat so much soy though! Doesn't that mess with the hormones! And wouldn't their white rice have a high GI? I mean people would eat a bowl for a little snack just rice alone.

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rice.. acne.. who told you that? a scientist? a doctor? a nutritional expert? .. oh wait my bad, you read that on these boards.

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I'm usually talking in reference to my clogged pores/blackheads etc.


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I hate to generalise or stereotype but i must say that alot of asians i see around London (particularly the chinese) have acne or acne scars. I have pointed this out to a number of friends and they said they've never realised it before but it's true. I also read somewhere on this forum that people who live in China generally have amazing skin (from this persons experience). Perhaps when people from other cultures come to the west they start to take on our rather worse diets and thats why they develop acne. Just a thought.

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If grains are just empty carbs and deplete nutrients according to the paleo diet, then why do asians have such perfect skin in their culture? Do they balance those empty carbs with all that raw fish? Cause if you expose an asian to a Western diet, they will get a terrible case of acne usually.

Also i have developed a serious case of dandruff in the past few days! I have not hand dandruff for years! I just got this Sunday! I think my B vitamin levels are getting really bad (biotin perhaps?). Biotin deficiency is linked to dandruff.

I have been eating a lot! I mean a lot of meat! Ham and Beef in particular. I haven't been getting loads of greens, and i am sure my little inside critters aren't that happy, cause they have never been able to get balanced exactly.

I think that getting the perfect harmonious body, with a correct diet, will automatically fix candida. So nutritional yeast, I am going to get some. I think that is why homemade bread use to taste so good to me when I was younger. The natural yeast in it.

That is such a drastic stereotype to make. Have you ever been to Asia or Japan? I have. It is similar to the USA, there are people with it, and there are people without it. You would never know that unless you went to a country (can't believe you are throwing the whole continent under the bus here) and intermingled with its peoples. Huge assumption on your end of the spectrum. Certain shampoos can cause dandruff, SLS dries out the skin. Might want to think about switching to a gentler shampoo.

I don't use shampoo, but I have been to shanghai for modeling and everyone had very clear skin, and they ate tons of rice, and vegetable dishes, and they don't really eat bread.

You said it, you met Models then? the artists use tons of make-up to make their skin look perfect

Anyone can have acne


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As far as my understanding goes, rice is just kind of starchy, if it does have gluten, it doesn't contain the component that actually does damage (unless you're a celiac). People don't need to avoid certain foods forever, just until you get your digestive system on track (there seems to be some exceptions, such as if you're celiac, you can never eat gluten, etc.) My family in Pakistan consume lots of rice, but it's covered with meat and vegetables. None of my family there has acne. Look into the GAPS diet if you want to learn more. (It's not something entirely different from Paleo, they are actually pretty similar) http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/306649-gaps-all-disease-begins-in-the-gut/

I've read that Asians don't actually eat a crap ton of soy, and if they do, it's all fermented. Fermenting soy, and wheat, and whatever else can be fermented is usually safer because the process removes a lot of the toxins.

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To the OP. Dieting is silly. The only point of a diet should be to heal your body. Once that's done as long as you get the nutrients you need in you diet, you can eat whatever the hell you want. I think that's the big thing people are missing.


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Asians have acne.

Also the Asian diet is full of very healthy things. The Western diet is not.

As far as grains go, rice is ok. Wheat is worse and what do Westerners eat? Wheat. What does the Asian diet include lots of? vegetables. What's lacking in the Western diet? Vegetables.

Chucky! I also don't get how they eat so much soy though! Doesn't that mess with the hormones! And wouldn't their white rice have a high GI? I mean people would eat a bowl for a little snack just rice alone.

Honestly, having done one semester of school in Asia, I can say that I always assumed they eat a lot of soy, especially tofu, but in reality it's not that much soy and much of the soy is some fermented stuff like natto (which is basically the kefir of soy products because it's actually decent for you.) Not to mention, even with the small negative aspects of the traditional Asian diet, they have more than enough to make up for it with regular seafood intake, vegetables, farming practices that haven't been modernized and thus they are by default organic grass-fed meats, etc. As far as rice goes, its almost always eaten with something (from what I've seen personally) that would lower its glycemic impact such as fibrous vegetables or meat (fat.) Also important to mention that herbal remedies and teas are all part of the regular diet as well and thus it's easy to see that many of the foods they consume are anti-inflammatory so they're not at risk of nearly as many diseases of affluence.

I mean if fermented soy and white rice are your only two vices, you're doing pretty well in my opinion.

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After suffering with acne since age 11, finally found my triggers 11 years later.

Clear for almost 1 year & in control of my acne, although due to some hyperpigmentation, I believed I was still breaking out. In fact, I thought I had just cleared up a few months ago, but after realizing my "breakouts" were simply scarring I also realized I was technically clear for much longer than I thought. Rare breakouts only whenever I get lazy with my diet.

The Cure for Acne:

-Avoid the Acne Trifecta: Soy, Gluten, and Dairy like the plague.

-Eat a Low-GI diet and avoid Sugar.

-Eat lots of protein and healthy fats (ANTIBIOTIC FREE/NO HORMONES ADDED/FREE RANGE/HUMANELY SLAUGHTERED)

-Get lots of green vegetables and sunshine.

-Supplement whenever possible. Due to how much we've ruined food in the past 60 years, the amount of nutrients found in food nowadays is lower than it was decades ago.

-Exercise, get sunshine, and avoid stressful situations.

-Don't fear food. Go out & eat. It's not good for the skin, but it's good for the soul.


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I haven't been everywhere in asia but I did a backpacking trip through the south east a few years back and I don't think I saw soy eaten there even once. I'm sure you could buy it places, maybe in the bigger more modern grocery markets and what not but none of the traditional restaurants and food huts I went to ever had any form of soy.

Anyway though, plenty of Asian people have acne. I don't know where people get these ideas from.

A lot of people just don't have acne. We are definitely the minority. For years I've been sneakily checking out people's skin in public and most people simply do not have acne. So there's a large change you could go into a mall full of mostly Asian people and look around and see most of them with clear skin too.

But people from all over do get acne. They just tend to hide at home more, wear tons of makeup, keep their faces down, etc.


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I love this topic because asians are the people that are known to have perfect skin. I read that rice is a relatively new food so they couldn't have eaten it for very long enough to cause acne/health issues. today, there are tons of asians that eat crap and still don't breakout because of their strong genetics. There ansestors have been eating healthy for such a long time that it would take many generations of eating the western diet to cause acne in their offspring.

They eat a lot of raw vegetables, and when the foreign asian students that came from Japan or China or whatever had to say facts about themselves in front of the class most of them said they love fruit and vegetables.

I believe rice is bad for acne 100% because I notice breakouts everytime I eat it no matter what..so I just avoid it.

Rice is very hard to digest also and has been known to cause a lot of diseases, including diabetes and chromes disease, and arthritis so it should be avoided even if you don't have acne.

I told my mom the o ther day (since she has acne too) that we should adopt the older asian diet..what they ate thousands of years earlier NOT recently because there skin genetics are so strong that they don't really need to avoid sertain things and they can thank their ansestors. Except ofcoarse some asians, that have eaten a more western diet for enough generations, they are the offsprings that get affected and have to cut out things from their diet.

But most westernized people have acne, not because of rice but by eating processed, canned, microvawed, artificial food throughout their life. The food available in the modern day groceries can get pretty bad.

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Well to be fair curry is usually great skin food. :) Think about it, veggies, spices, coconut.... good for ya.

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Current Skin-Care Regimen (A work in progress):

Morning:

Gentle wash with DKR cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil (The lotion alone wasn't hydrating enough)

Skin 79 Korean BB Cream (excellent stuff)

Evening:

Gentle Wash with DKR Cleanser

Benzoyl Peroxide 2.5% (Following Dan's Regimen)

DKR Lotion + A squirt of Argan or Grapeseed oil


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I don't think I've ever seen an indian with acne. Am i gonna ask if it's the curry? No.

It's all their veggie and spice rich foods. And they don't actually make any dishes they call curry.

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Rice has been eaten for a long time. Today the majority of the world consumes it to some degree, and I've yet to hear of some major pandemic of acne coming from those parts. The fears surrounding rice, as shown in this thread, is basically unfounded. Anecdotally I can state with absolute certainty that rice does not break me out, no matter how much of it I consume. Milk and sugar, and perhaps to some degree bread, on the other hand breaks me out within hours (small minute pustules) to days (cystic acne). These foodtypes are fairly common in the Western world, where not so coincidentally too the highest rates of acne also occur.

Concerning Indian food, I regularly consume it. However it has to be prepared correctly, else it will also cause or exacerbate acne. Eliminate daihn (yoghurt), don't cook with ghee, avoid all indian desserts, avoid roti & naan, etc... I also want to dispel the aura of the acne-less Indian. As a kid I studied in an international school with many Indian kids. Many had acne, just like me. The end.

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this isn't true.....i live in japan, but am californian (white).

japanese girls are really good at applying makeup and...it seems to go on their skin better for some reason. some guys wear it too...

also a lot of ppl eat lots of candies and eat lots of pastries etc...its a myth ppl just eat sashimi and veggies here ha a lot of ppl hardly even get fruits because of the costs and lots of stuff is deep fried

ps: i think the reason more asians in america (and elsewhere outside asia) have more acne is because of the beauty standards.......the same thing is true about hair, makeup, clothing, weight, fragrance, etc...its more competitive!

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this isn't true.....i live in japan, but am californian (white).

japanese girls are really good at applying makeup and...it seems to go on their skin better for some reason. some guys wear it too...

also a lot of ppl eat lots of candies and eat lots of pastries etc...its a myth ppl just eat sashimi and veggies here ha a lot of ppl hardly even get fruits because of the costs and lots of stuff is deep fried

ps: i think the reason more asians in america (and elsewhere outside asia) have more acne is because of the beauty standards.......the same thing is true about hair, makeup, clothing, weight, fragrance, etc...its more competitive!

well said, ive been to japan on a vaca, it is a myth

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this isn't true.....i live in japan, but am californian (white).

japanese girls are really good at applying makeup and...it seems to go on their skin better for some reason. some guys wear it too...

also a lot of ppl eat lots of candies and eat lots of pastries etc...its a myth ppl just eat sashimi and veggies here ha a lot of ppl hardly even get fruits because of the costs and lots of stuff is deep fried

ps: i think the reason more asians in america (and elsewhere outside asia) have more acne is because of the beauty standards.......the same thing is true about hair, makeup, clothing, weight, fragrance, etc...its more competitive!

well said, ive been to japan on a vaca, it is a myth

Thank you Steven (^o^)/☆♪

While on the topic of asian myths, just want to clarify that asians are not naturally super thin aka. eat whatever and never worry about their weight! People are always on diets here...even my Chinese friends parents' call them "fat" if they gain a couple pounds so...there is more pressure! And there are more extremes in asia...like 0 calorie jelly meals and 80 calorie premade meals sold all over~they even have socks u sleep in that supposedly help u lose weight...sold all over! i heard there are tapeworm pills and botox for legs in other places in asia...

So...just try your hardest! You are not at a disadvantage because of ur race.。。。i guess that is my point he (^_-) 頑張ってください〜☆


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this isn't true.....i live in japan, but am californian (white).

japanese girls are really good at applying makeup and...it seems to go on their skin better for some reason. some guys wear it too...

also a lot of ppl eat lots of candies and eat lots of pastries etc...its a myth ppl just eat sashimi and veggies here ha a lot of ppl hardly even get fruits because of the costs and lots of stuff is deep fried

ps: i think the reason more asians in america (and elsewhere outside asia) have more acne is because of the beauty standards.......the same thing is true about hair, makeup, clothing, weight, fragrance, etc...its more competitive!

well said, ive been to japan on a vaca, it is a myth

Thank you Steven (^o^)/☆♪

While on the topic of asian myths, just want to clarify that asians are not naturally super thin aka. eat whatever and never worry about their weight! People are always on diets here...even my Chinese friends parents' call them "fat" if they gain a couple pounds so...there is more pressure! And there are more extremes in asia...like 0 calorie jelly meals and 80 calorie premade meals sold all over~they even have socks u sleep in that supposedly help u lose weight...sold all over! i heard there are tapeworm pills and botox for legs in other places in asia...

So...just try your hardest! You are not at a disadvantage because of ur race.。。。i guess that is my point he (^_-) 頑張ってください〜☆

You're welcome.

Yea, this thread is racist, to say the least. I see it as peoples easy excuse for their problems.

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