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#1 OlympusMons

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 01:49 PM

Hi everyone!

I'm here to discuss Wai Diet, as what I think to be the only efficient and healthful solution to get 100% acne clear forever.

I've been on Wai Diet for 8 months and I am acne clear since week 3.

The diet consists of... you can eat everything except cooked foods, milk/dairy, vegetables, and salt/spices.
You can eat: fruits (raw, can also be juiced or dried), raw egg yolks, raw fish, raw meat (not advocated), nuts, olive oil and other oils, sugar, honey, and a little chives and vinegar.
You may think it's a restrictive diet, but I'd say it's just a new eating paradigm, that happens to be very different from the most popular ones nowadays. In this diet, you still got hundreds of foods to chose from.

Why will this diet keep you cleared up?
Because acne occurs when BOTH this factors occur:
1.) Too much moisture in the skin pinching off sebum canals;
2.) High sebum production.
If you eliminate one of these, you get clear of acne.

However, all the acne treatments that we use nowadays, and that are discussed here, consist on eliminating the second factor, which means decreasing sebum production.
But if the skin does not contain excessive moisture, a high sebum production is not a problem at all. Sebum is essential to keep the skin flexible and young. The more sebum is produced, the more flexible and healthy the skin is. The less sebum is produced, the faster the outer skin cells dehydrate and age.
That's why all the tradicional acne treatments seem so unnecessarily unhealthy to me. They not only dry and irritate your skin, making it become spoiled and aging before time, as some of those treatments can also mess up with your health pretty badly!
(Topical creams are also a bad choice in my opinion since, again, you're just spoiling your skin, as pimples will keep on coming no matter how much of them you burn!)

Instead, you can eliminate factor 1.), which as no health consequences at all. On the reverse: it has many health benefits. And the only way to do it is cutting out the things that cause too much moisture in the skin pinching off sebum canals:

- consuming cooked foods, for it's altered proteins
- consuming raw milk/dairy, for it's hormones
- consuming raw vegetables, for the hard digestion of these by humans (this is the mildest factor in my opinion)
- consuming salt/spices, since these cause high water retention in the skin
- consuming too much proteins, even if raw
- other factors: alcohol consumption, stress, consuming too little fat, hormonal fluctuation, many drugs and medicines.

You can read more about this in the free acne book, just google it!
Try this diet and you will see for yourself! ;-)
Cheers

Update: We now consider raw organic beef 100% healthy and safe (lots of people eat it - carpaccio, steak tartar, etc). But please never try raw pork or raw game. It has a chance of containing very dangerous parasites. Just like some fish species are not safe to eat raw (the japanese mastered which, wikipedia "sashimi"), only some meat species are safe too, and as far as we know, only beef is, preferentially organic.

Update 2: If you're really afraid of consuming raw animal foods (fish, meat, eggs) and you still wanna do this diet, nothing like consuming only bought-frozen (except for eggs). Freezing kills parasites and bacteria, and doesn't damage the protein (unlike cooking). Freezing is 100% Wai. However, some of the nasty parasites of the unsafe-to-eat-raw fish and meat species might survive freezing, so don't eat unsafe species even if bought-frozen!

Edited by OlympusMons, 12 May 2012 - 04:04 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:09 PM

Any diet that cuts out VEGETABLES seems like anything but healthy to me...

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 10:32 PM

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Edited by 2011, 28 December 2011 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 04 October 2011 - 10:37 PM

"The Only Way To Get 100% Clear Forever"

I sense an onslaught of flak.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:27 AM

Any diet that cuts out VEGETABLES seems like anything but healthy to me...


There is not a single nutrient that vegetables contain, that fruits don't contain.
And raw vegetables are of hard digestion for humans, unlike fruits.
So why would it be unhealthy to cut them out?



And I really don't think acne is caused by "too much moisture in the skin pinching off sebum canals"??
How does that explain acne sufferers with overly dry skin not caused by products?


Because your skin can have low skin-oil production and at the same time high sebum production. Skin-oil and sebum are different. Sebum is a solid substance (at least when it comes to surface), it's the yellowish substance that you see stucked in your whiteheads. Skin-oil is the oil that skin naturally produces.
Plus, an overly dry skin is not a balanced skin, so sebum canals might get pinched off much more easily. I know this from experience - I burnt my whole face 2 years ago, and the times I used to have my skin more dry, were the times my skin got more fragile and got more acne.
Plus, if this person uses moisturizers (since most people with overly dry skin do) mositurizers by itself can cause acne. Moisturizers work by delivering water-retaining molecules to the outer skin, which end up on the true skin, where their water retention may pinch off sebum cannals.



Like you said, moisture is good for the skin - we want hydrated skin.


I never said that actually, I said sebum is good for the skin.
But it's true, moisture is also good ofc. However, we don't want TOO MUCH of it. And cooked foods, milk/dairy, salt/spices cause WAY too much. That is for sure unhealthy.

Edited by OlympusMons, 05 October 2011 - 06:29 AM.


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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:27 AM

Before I succeeded with Paleo, I tried the Wai Diet, specifically the restrictive Acne Sample Diet. To be fair, my hair never looked so naturally full of life, and I was having the best sleep ever. The downside was the weight loss, if you lead a busy, active life, it's hard to sustain. And, you need to make sure you don't have sensitivity to eggs, nuts, avocados, which subsequently in time I found out I had.

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Posted 06 October 2011 - 05:11 AM

Before I succeeded with Paleo, I tried the Wai Diet, specifically the restrictive Acne Sample Diet. To be fair, my hair never looked so naturally full of life, and I was having the best sleep ever.


Yes, me too! In fact, sleep, energy and psychological well-being and for me the best advantage of Wai Diet! You feel another person!

The downside was the weight loss, if you lead a busy, active life, it's hard to sustain.


You can make juice in the morning, like 1 or 2 liters, add some olive oil, some sugar if you need lots of energy, and you can spend your work day just sipping juice. This way, you can easily consume lots of calories, so you won't lose weight.
Dry fruit+nuts is also a good solution. You just pick your Tupperware and have a snack whenever you want ;)

And, you need to make sure you don't have sensitivity to eggs, nuts, avocados, which subsequently in time I found out I had.


Ouch, that's bad... I love all those!
But I don't eat nuts, for eg., since they make me acne. Nuts are the only thing in diet that can make acne, yet some acne-prone people don't get acne from them.
As for eggs, you don't need them if you eat fish. Avocados, same thing, you don't need them as long as you eat other fats. I don't eat these two either, cause I can't get good quality ones where I live.

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 04:43 AM

Also, a really important thing about Wai Diet, minding acne, is washing face with anything but low mineral bottled water!
Tap water contains chemicals, such as chlorine, that irritate your face. And soaps are completely unnecessary on face.
This step was crucial for my skin complexion! Try it and you'll see!

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 06:46 PM

Only way? Uhhh no.

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 08:24 PM

Sounds like this diet has many parallels to what I recommend. Historically large amounts of vegetables(with the exception of starchy ones) were only eaten in times of famine. Now some vegetables are health promoting but many can be considered harmful (due to natural toxins that discourage animals from eating them). Personally the only vegetables I consume are leafy greens which historically were even consumed by humans with an abundant supply of food. I occasionally add in other vegetables for flavour sake but dont find a need with the large amounts of fruit I intake. In regards to raw meat - there are definitely benefits to consuming raw meats - though if the rest of your diet is stellar some lightly cooked proteins are just fine - after all we've been cooking foods for a long time.

Thumbs up for those that want to try this diet.

Edited by moonbase, 08 October 2011 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 09 October 2011 - 09:55 AM

Thumbs up for those that want to try this diet.


Thanks for supporting!

though if the rest of your diet is stellar some lightly cooked proteins are just fine


Light cooking is not as bad as deep cooking, but it is still very bad for your health.
Why? It's all here: http://www.waiworld....ok-protein.html

after all we've been cooking foods for a long time.


Humans have been here for like 10million years.
Fire and cooking have only been used for the last half million.
Anyway, that doesn't mean at all that cooking is healthy.


About greens, yeah I don't think they're the worse either, but they are of bad digestion for humans, they have lots of anti-nutrients, and there's not a single nutrient on them that fruits don't contain, so why to eat them when you have fruits? It's like that saying "you don't need to eat carps, there are better fish to eat" :D
However, I'd be happy if everyone would go Wai+greens, the world would be so much better already!

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:39 AM

We also have a forum with lots of good discussions and information:
http://www.waiworld....hpBB3/index.php

Feel free to sign in and participate!

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:19 AM

Humans have been here for like 10million years.
i'm pretty sure that's not true

but anyway since you say this diet can help in the small space of just 2 weeks i would be willing to give it a chance for a wee while...only thing is i begin military training in a few months
i doubt i would be able to follow it then
got any other suggestions that would help but still give me the energy i would require?

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 11:40 AM

Humans have been here for like 10million years.
i'm pretty sure that's not true


You're right, I had searched wrongly. It's about 2 millions I guess. Sorry for that!

but anyway since you say this diet can help in the small space of just 2 weeks i would be willing to give it a chance for a wee while...only thing is i begin military training in a few months
i doubt i would be able to follow it then
got any other suggestions that would help but still give me the energy i would require?


Yes, there are 3 solutions.

First one (and better) drink a lot of homemade juices, from your juice extractor, with olive/coconut oil. You can also add raw egg yolks to these, for protein. This way you will have everything you need (carbs, fats, prots, vitamins, minerals) and lots of easy to absorb energy, and it's easy to digest. Just take it in bottles with you and have a drink whenever you want, it couldn't be more practical.

2 - Take lots of nuts and dried fruit with you.

3 - Eat in a fat and protein basis. This way you can be without eating for long periods, because fats are broken down for energy much more gradually than carbs/sugars. Fatty Wai foods are oils, nuts, avocados, egg yolks, fatty fish and fatty meats.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 04:05 PM

it seems sort of essential to have protein for muscles though. also, don't eggs contain protein in the white, not the yolk? Have you tried eating more cooked protein and see how you react? I would guess it wouldn't really be a problem

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 05:51 PM

it seems sort of essential to have protein for muscles though. also, don't eggs contain protein in the white, not the yolk? Have you tried eating more cooked protein and see how you react? I would guess it wouldn't really be a problem


Yes, protein is indeed essential, and this diet supplies you abundantly with it.

Eggs contain some protein in the white yeah, but egg whites are very nutrient deficient, comparing to the yolk:
http://nutritiondata...-products/112/2
Plus, whites contain anti-nutrients that can make you hard digestion when eaten raw. Plus they're not tasty at all raw. So, no reason to eat them.

Yes I did a lot of experiments in the first few months, and cooked animal foods are among the things that make me breakout the most.
Plus, now, after 9 months eating 100% raw, I really wouldn't touch anything cooked. It doesn't seem like food to me anymore! Specially cooked animal foods, which seem like burned flesh for me, and are so much tastier in their raw form!
Not to mention the all the other health problems that I believe that those foods cause. Acne is the least, for me.

Edited by OlympusMons, 05 November 2011 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 01:42 AM

Wow, I can guarentee this will absolutely not get people "100% clear forever in 2 weeks". If you're going to make claims at least make them plausible. This is too rediculous and will lead to malnutrition. Vegetables are not filled with "toxins" and they are an essential part of a human diet. I challenge you to name some specific toxins you find in vegetables and provide a reliable source.

EDIT: Sorry, thought that you had said vegetables had toxins but it was somebody else. But I still think this diet is too extreme.

Edited by PurplGrind, 06 November 2011 - 01:45 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 06:27 AM

I've tried the diet. There's no faulting its results, better skin, better hair, better sleep. Hats off to anyone sticking with it for longer than just the 'acne free diet phase'. Making a litre of orange juice daily is just plain difficult, since it'd take on average 12 oranges to do it, just became too tiresome for me.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:47 AM

Vegetables aren't hard for the digestion, unless you actually have those symptoms, which would usually include stomach pain, intestinal gas and hard stool.

And spices are usually plants/plant parts with very aromatic compounds. Just because you can smell them doesn't mean they contain more "dangerous chemicals" than other plants or fruits.

Edited by derrrrrrrrrp, 06 November 2011 - 07:54 AM.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:30 AM


it seems sort of essential to have protein for muscles though. also, don't eggs contain protein in the white, not the yolk? Have you tried eating more cooked protein and see how you react? I would guess it wouldn't really be a problem


Yes, protein is indeed essential, and this diet supplies you abundantly with it.

Eggs contain some protein in the white yeah, but egg whites are very nutrient deficient, comparing to the yolk:
http://nutritiondata...-products/112/2
Plus, whites contain anti-nutrients that can make you hard digestion when eaten raw. Plus they're not tasty at all raw. So, no reason to eat them.

Yes I did a lot of experiments in the first few months, and cooked animal foods are among the things that make me breakout the most.
Plus, now, after 9 months eating 100% raw, I really wouldn't touch anything cooked. It doesn't seem like food to me anymore! Specially cooked animal foods, which seem like burned flesh for me, and are so much tastier in their raw form!
Not to mention the all the other health problems that I believe that those foods cause. Acne is the least, for me.


How's your skin doing after waiing your options, olympusmons?

I've tried the diet. There's no faulting its results, better skin, better hair, better sleep. Hats off to anyone sticking with it for longer than just the 'acne free diet phase'. Making a litre of orange juice daily is just plain difficult, since it'd take on average 12 oranges to do it, just became too tiresome for me.


Citrus fruit scares me after reading some people's reactions to it on this forum. Cystic acne...