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There is little to no scientific research explaining the difference between S8 (elemental sulfur) and S04 (sulfate) with regards to dermal absorption or utilization.

The fact is we have no idea how or why they work. But both seem to work similarly, and both contain the element sulfur.

In my experience Epsom Salt works with little to no dryness. Certainly it's never caused any peeling, which would be a plus for most.

We do understand however, how the extra magnesium ion is absorbed directly through the skin and into the bloodstream. Blood tests have proven elevated levels of magnesium in the blood after having soaked in Epsom Salts. This should be considered a wonderful side benefit, considering most modern diets leave us severely lacking in the required levels of magnesium.

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I didn't think epsom salts had sulfur...a bit confused here...

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I didn't think epsom salts had sulfur...a bit confused here...

Epsom Salts is Magnesium Sulfate which doesn't act as a keratolytic like Sulfur does.

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I had amazing results with a prescription sulfur wash (rosaderm maybe?). I have used the same ointment as you, and while it cleared the spots I was treating, it also gave me bad lizard face for a week afterward! Be careful with your application; shit is powerfully drying!

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I love that the De La Cruz 10% sulfur ointment is unscented. I was looking this morning for an unscented sulfur soap, and found one I'd never noticed before called Cuticare. I wondered if anyone here has tried it. Here's a link: http://www.cuticareproducts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PN%201001

That bar soap looks great. I would also like to know if anyone has used it? And, would you use it along with the De La Cruz ointment, or instead of?

I'm constantly looking for something to help my son. Right now he's washing with Benzac 5%. At first I thought it was working, really helping to dry up the bumps, but now I'm not really sure. I'm losing faith in it. Plus I know that BP is not really good for the skin. His acne keeps getting worse as he gets older. Maybe I'll get him something sulfur based. He's never tried sulfur. But all this stuff I'm reading about it sounds great! Almost too good to be true though I mean, something that actually works and is so cheap??? Sounds like heaven

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I love that the De La Cruz 10% sulfur ointment is unscented. I was looking this morning for an unscented sulfur soap, and found one I'd never noticed before called Cuticare. I wondered if anyone here has tried it. Here's a link: http://www.cuticareproducts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PN%201001

That bar soap looks great. I would also like to know if anyone has used it? And, would you use it along with the De La Cruz ointment, or instead of?

I'm constantly looking for something to help my son. Right now he's washing with Benzac 5%. At first I thought it was working, really helping to dry up the bumps, but now I'm not really sure. I'm losing faith in it. Plus I know that BP is not really good for the skin. His acne keeps getting worse as he gets older. Maybe I'll get him something sulfur based. He's never tried sulfur. But all this stuff I'm reading about it sounds great! Almost too good to be true though I mean, something that actually works and is so cheap??? Sounds like heaven

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I love that the De La Cruz 10% sulfur ointment is unscented. I was looking this morning for an unscented sulfur soap, and found one I'd never noticed before called Cuticare. I wondered if anyone here has tried it. Here's a link: http://www.cuticareproducts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PN%201001

That bar soap looks great. I would also like to know if anyone has used it? And, would you use it along with the De La Cruz ointment, or instead of?

I'm constantly looking for something to help my son. Right now he's washing with Benzac 5%. At first I thought it was working, really helping to dry up the bumps, but now I'm not really sure. I'm losing faith in it. Plus I know that BP is not really good for the skin. His acne keeps getting worse as he gets older. Maybe I'll get him something sulfur based. He's never tried sulfur. But all this stuff I'm reading about it sounds great! Almost too good to be true though I mean, something that actually works and is so cheap??? Sounds like heaven

I've ordered the soap and should get it tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think of it compared to the De La Cruz ointment. Using them both might be too drying, but it could work well depending on your situation. My son got very clear from the ointment. It took about a month leaving it on every night. The ointment is a little messy, so I'm hoping the soap will stand in for it. I may have my son pair the soap up with something else.too. We'll see.

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oh no!!! don't tell me the sulfur stopped working... I was just getting hopeful. I am at a loss... every time I read about something working (sulfur, African black soap, etc) and then research it, I find out that it stops working, or clogs pores, whatever. this is really like the never-ending bad dream that we will never wake up from..

I'm glad your son is getting some relief now, with the salicylic acid. I bought some African black soap yesterday, and used it on myself and I like it so far. My face felt very clean afterwards, and seemed less oily this morning. I had my son use it gently this morning too, instead of his usual Benzac 5% wash. I would like to switch him back to something more natural to wash with. However, I just read that the black soap can be comedogenic because of the coconut oil in it. this is sooo frustrating. I don't know if I should have him keep using it.

btw he has used a salicylic acid toner before (with the Lerosett) and it seemed OK but didn't seem to do much, so he stopped.

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oh no!!! don't tell me the sulfur stopped working... I was just getting hopeful. I am at a loss... every time I read about something working (sulfur, African black soap, etc) and then research it, I find out that it stops working, or clogs pores, whatever. this is really like the never-ending bad dream that we will never wake up from..

I'm glad your son is getting some relief now, with the salicylic acid. I bought some African black soap yesterday, and used it on myself and I like it so far. My face felt very clean afterwards, and seemed less oily this morning. I had my son use it gently this morning too, instead of his usual Benzac 5% wash. I would like to switch him back to something more natural to wash with. However, I just read that the black soap can be comedogenic because of the coconut oil in it. this is sooo frustrating. I don't know if I should have him keep using it.

btw he has used a salicylic acid toner before (with the Lerosett) and it seemed OK but didn't seem to do much, so he stopped.

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oh no!!! don't tell me the sulfur stopped working... I was just getting hopeful. I am at a loss... every time I read about something working (sulfur, African black soap, etc) and then research it, I find out that it stops working, or clogs pores, whatever. this is really like the never-ending bad dream that we will never wake up from..

I'm glad your son is getting some relief now, with the salicylic acid. I bought some African black soap yesterday, and used it on myself and I like it so far. My face felt very clean afterwards, and seemed less oily this morning. I had my son use it gently this morning too, instead of his usual Benzac 5% wash. I would like to switch him back to something more natural to wash with. However, I just read that the black soap can be comedogenic because of the coconut oil in it. this is sooo frustrating. I don't know if I should have him keep using it.

btw he has used a salicylic acid toner before (with the Lerosett) and it seemed OK but didn't seem to do much, so he stopped.

When I looked into the black soap I was told it has a high pH, not something you want if you are battling acne.

It does seem that we have to think ahead and be ready with a new approach every so often. For whatever reason, certain regimens lose their effectiveness after a while. The last time my son used sulfur was last summer, so I am hoping that his skin has had a long enough break from it and his skin will respond to it again. It looks like my son will always need to use one of the keratolytics - in particular, salicylic acid, lactic acid, sulfur or retin A. Actually, so do I.

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oh no!!! don't tell me the sulfur stopped working... I was just getting hopeful. I am at a loss... every time I read about something working (sulfur, African black soap, etc) and then research it, I find out that it stops working, or clogs pores, whatever. this is really like the never-ending bad dream that we will never wake up from..

I'm glad your son is getting some relief now, with the salicylic acid. I bought some African black soap yesterday, and used it on myself and I like it so far. My face felt very clean afterwards, and seemed less oily this morning. I had my son use it gently this morning too, instead of his usual Benzac 5% wash. I would like to switch him back to something more natural to wash with. However, I just read that the black soap can be comedogenic because of the coconut oil in it. this is sooo frustrating. I don't know if I should have him keep using it.

btw he has used a salicylic acid toner before (with the Lerosett) and it seemed OK but didn't seem to do much, so he stopped.

When I looked into the black soap I was told it has a high pH, not something you want if you are battling acne.

It does seem that we have to think ahead and be ready with a new approach every so often. For whatever reason, certain regimens lose their effectiveness after a while. The last time my son used sulfur was last summer, so I am hoping that his skin has had a long enough break from it and his skin will respond to it again. It looks like my son will always need to use one of the keratolytics - in particular, salicylic acid, lactic acid, sulfur or retin A. Actually, so do I.

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Thank you so much for the thread about pH! Lots of great info there. I called the company who makes the African black soap that I bought, and asked what the pH is. The girl was very pleasant, but didn't know the answer. She took my number & said she would ask & get back to me. She said in the 3 yrs she's worked there, no one has ever asked her that question. I was a little surprised by that.

So today I found the De La Cruz sulfur ointment at a local Walgreens I just used it on myself, left it on for 10 minutes & now my face is pretty red. Do you know if that's normal? It feels pretty clean though. And while it was on, my face really itched but I refrained from touching it. It still itches a little now. Did your son have any itching while he used it? I'm going to have my son try it in a few minutes.

How do you like the Cuticare soap so far?

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No, my son didn't experience itchiness using the De La Cruz ointment. But his face was quite oily and he doesn't wash his face with a cleanser. So maybe the ointment is itchier when the skin is really clean. When I called the representative at dlc labs, he told me not to worry about washing his face, just to put it on over his oily skin. I think I talked to that man about 3 times as he was first trying it out. I wish I had kept a diary so I could recall exactly what happened in the process to get him clear. But I seem to remember that it got a little worse before it got better. I'm thinking maybe 2 weeks of it being a little worse, not a lot. But you must know that my son's skin was really bad at the time - cysts, whiteheads, comedones, you name it.

In addition to the sulfur, he took (and still takes) Rainbow Light Active Teen supplements and about 4-6,000 iu of Vitamin E because he was inside a lot last summer when we went through this ordeal. He has a small amount of dairy, not much though, and has a pretty healthy diet. He loves salads and healthy food, which is helpful.

I'm not sure about the Cuticare soap. Too early to tell. I'm not feeling too hopeful about it though, because the sulfur doesn't stay in contact with the skin as long as a topcial does.

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No, my son didn't experience itchiness using the De La Cruz ointment. But his face was quite oily and he doesn't wash his face with a cleanser. So maybe the ointment is itchier when the skin is really clean. When I called the representative at dlc labs, he told me not to worry about washing his face, just to put it on over his oily skin. I think I talked to that man about 3 times as he was first trying it out. I wish I had kept a diary so I could recall exactly what happened in the process to get him clear. But I seem to remember that it got a little worse before it got better. I'm thinking maybe 2 weeks of it being a little worse, not a lot. But you must know that my son's skin was really bad at the time - cysts, whiteheads, comedones, you name it.

In addition to the sulfur, he took (and still takes) Rainbow Light Active Teen supplements and about 4-6,000 iu of Vitamin E because he was inside a lot last summer when we went through this ordeal. He has a small amount of dairy, not much though, and has a pretty healthy diet. He loves salads and healthy food, which is helpful.

I'm not sure about the Cuticare soap. Too early to tell. I'm not feeling too hopeful about it though, because the sulfur doesn't stay in contact with the skin as long as a topcial does.

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No, my son didn't experience itchiness using the De La Cruz ointment. But his face was quite oily and he doesn't wash his face with a cleanser. So maybe the ointment is itchier when the skin is really clean. When I called the representative at dlc labs, he told me not to worry about washing his face, just to put it on over his oily skin. I think I talked to that man about 3 times as he was first trying it out. I wish I had kept a diary so I could recall exactly what happened in the process to get him clear. But I seem to remember that it got a little worse before it got better. I'm thinking maybe 2 weeks of it being a little worse, not a lot. But you must know that my son's skin was really bad at the time - cysts, whiteheads, comedones, you name it.

In addition to the sulfur, he took (and still takes) Rainbow Light Active Teen supplements and about 4-6,000 iu of Vitamin E because he was inside a lot last summer when we went through this ordeal. He has a small amount of dairy, not much though, and has a pretty healthy diet. He loves salads and healthy food, which is helpful.

I'm not sure about the Cuticare soap. Too early to tell. I'm not feeling too hopeful about it though, because the sulfur doesn't stay in contact with the skin as long as a topcial does.

So the man at DLC told you to have your son put the ointment on over his dirty, oily face? That's interesting. My son is used to washing his face twice a day, morning and night. I guess I could have him try the ointment on a dirty face. It would be hard to get used to though. Right now we're both washing with the African black soap, and using the ointment 1x each evening (not sleeping in it). I wonder if that is too harsh. We both noticed that this morning when washing our faces w/the black soap, it burned a little. I'm thinking it's b/c we did the sulfur ointment last night, b/c we didn't experience the burning before I had bought the ointment. do you think it's too much to use both? I wish someone could just tell me what to do sad.png That's great that your son loves healthy food, mine does too. He likes most everything, and I can get him to eat pretty much eat anything... even if it's something he doesn't like, he will still eat it if he knows he needs to... with whining/complaining LOL

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No, my son didn't experience itchiness using the De La Cruz ointment. But his face was quite oily and he doesn't wash his face with a cleanser. So maybe the ointment is itchier when the skin is really clean. When I called the representative at dlc labs, he told me not to worry about washing his face, just to put it on over his oily skin. I think I talked to that man about 3 times as he was first trying it out. I wish I had kept a diary so I could recall exactly what happened in the process to get him clear. But I seem to remember that it got a little worse before it got better. I'm thinking maybe 2 weeks of it being a little worse, not a lot. But you must know that my son's skin was really bad at the time - cysts, whiteheads, comedones, you name it.

In addition to the sulfur, he took (and still takes) Rainbow Light Active Teen supplements and about 4-6,000 iu of Vitamin E because he was inside a lot last summer when we went through this ordeal. He has a small amount of dairy, not much though, and has a pretty healthy diet. He loves salads and healthy food, which is helpful.

I'm not sure about the Cuticare soap. Too early to tell. I'm not feeling too hopeful about it though, because the sulfur doesn't stay in contact with the skin as long as a topcial does.

So the man at DLC told you to have your son put the ointment on over his dirty, oily face? That's interesting. My son is used to washing his face twice a day, morning and night. I guess I could have him try the ointment on a dirty face. It would be hard to get used to though. Right now we're both washing with the African black soap, and using the ointment 1x each evening (not sleeping in it). I wonder if that is too harsh. We both noticed that this morning when washing our faces w/the black soap, it burned a little. I'm thinking it's b/c we did the sulfur ointment last night, b/c we didn't experience the burning before I had bought the ointment. do you think it's too much to use both? I wish someone could just tell me what to do sad.png That's great that your son loves healthy food, mine does too. He likes most everything, and I can get him to eat pretty much eat anything... even if it's something he doesn't like, he will still eat it if he knows he needs to... with whining/complaining LOL

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Not all black soap has coconut oil in it and since raw black soap is different than SheaMoisture or other brands, the ph level is going to be different as well.

I am using SheaMoisture black soap. It does not have coconut oil in it. It is a little drying but not as much as raw black soap. It is made for those with acne and is all natural. I would give it a try on yourself first. Then after a week if you like it, have your son try it.


No regimen is one-size-fits-all. You are unique and so is your skin.

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Black soap - Lumiplexion Salicylic Acid ~ Lumiplexion SPF 30 ~ Lumiplexion moisturizer

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Black soap ~ Lumiplexion Glycolic Acid 12% (3-4x week) ~ Lumiplexion Hydroquinone 1-2x week

Lumiplexion enzyme mask / sulfur mask / moisturizing mask 1-2 week as needed

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Not all black soap has coconut oil in it and since raw black soap is different than SheaMoisture or other brands, the ph level is going to be different as well.

I am using SheaMoisture black soap. It does not have coconut oil in it. It is a little drying but not as much as raw black soap. It is made for those with acne and is all natural. I would give it a try on yourself first. Then after a week if you like it, have your son try it.

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Coconut oil can be clogging for some. Others love it for their skin. You have to see what it does for you. I try to avoid it if possible. However, my daughter is using natural black soap that likely does have coconut oil in it. She likes it and feels it's clearing up her acne better than the previous soap we were using.


No regimen is one-size-fits-all. You are unique and so is your skin.

AM

Black soap - Lumiplexion Salicylic Acid ~ Lumiplexion SPF 30 ~ Lumiplexion moisturizer

PM

Black soap ~ Lumiplexion Glycolic Acid 12% (3-4x week) ~ Lumiplexion Hydroquinone 1-2x week

Lumiplexion enzyme mask / sulfur mask / moisturizing mask 1-2 week as needed

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Thank you so much for the thread about pH! Lots of great info there. I called the company who makes the African black soap that I bought, and asked what the pH is. The girl was very pleasant, but didn't know the answer. She took my number & said she would ask & get back to me. She said in the 3 yrs she's worked there, no one has ever asked her that question. I was a little surprised by that.

So today I found the De La Cruz sulfur ointment at a local Walgreens I just used it on myself, left it on for 10 minutes & now my face is pretty red. Do you know if that's normal? It feels pretty clean though. And while it was on, my face really itched but I refrained from touching it. It still itches a little now. Did your son have any itching while he used it? I'm going to have my son try it in a few minutes.

How do you like the Cuticare soap so far?

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Coconut oil can be clogging for some. Others love it for their skin. You have to see what it does for you. I try to avoid it if possible. However, my daughter is using natural black soap that likely does have coconut oil in it. She likes it and feels it's clearing up her acne better than the previous soap we were using.

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Coconut oil can be clogging for some. Others love it for their skin. You have to see what it does for you. I try to avoid it if possible. However, my daughter is using natural black soap that likely does have coconut oil in it. She likes it and feels it's clearing up her acne better than the previous soap we were using.

OK... I'm still using the black soap w/the coconut oil, and I've been liking it, but in the last several days I've gotten about 2-3 fairly deep bumps. They aren't terribly red or inflamed, though. I'm not sure if it's from the soap, or what... My son is using it, and has not had this problem. hmmmm so I don't know if it's the soap or not..? I'll keep an eye on it. thx for the info!

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Thank you so much for the thread about pH! Lots of great info there. I called the company who makes the African black soap that I bought, and asked what the pH is. The girl was very pleasant, but didn't know the answer. She took my number & said she would ask & get back to me. She said in the 3 yrs she's worked there, no one has ever asked her that question. I was a little surprised by that.

So today I found the De La Cruz sulfur ointment at a local Walgreens I just used it on myself, left it on for 10 minutes & now my face is pretty red. Do you know if that's normal? It feels pretty clean though. And while it was on, my face really itched but I refrained from touching it. It still itches a little now. Did your son have any itching while he used it? I'm going to have my son try it in a few minutes.

How do you like the Cuticare soap so far?

Regarding the Cuticare soap, I am not comfortable with using it on my face. It leaves a waxy feel that just "feels" pore clogging to me. The De La Cruz is my favorite sulfur treatment so far - the ingredients are simple and it washes away completely.

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