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Scar Tissue That I Wish You Saw. - New Photos!

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pord, if you look at yourself in tinted windows, do you see a lot of indentations?

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Wow. Another thread where my post was deleted. I swear, this is my last post, until the upgrades are over lol. Alright, let's try this again;

I'm sorry I took so long to post - I only saw your comment on my profile, yesterday. I am flattered that you would request my opinion on your scars and, although I do appreciate being called "knowledgeable", I would like to point out that I'm just someone who does his research, and is very direct.

That being said, as it has been pointed out numerous times, your skin is in good condition However, I'm a firm believer that A. photos rarely do acne scars justice and B. scars can bother people, regardless of their size/severeness.

Start by staying away from lasers. Too expensive and unstable, for someone who suffers from scarring that is barely noticeable lol.

I would recommend TCA CROSS for the tiny icepicks/enlarged pores, chemical peels for the hyper-pigmentation/marks and a Coke and a smile for the fact that your skin looks great, either way. :)

Good luck!

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pord, if you look at yourself in tinted windows, do you see a lot of indentations?

If I look at my face at just the right angle; yes.

Wow. Another thread where my post was deleted. I swear, this is my last post, until the upgrades are over lol. Alright, let's try this again;

I'm sorry I took so long to post - I only saw your comment on my profile, yesterday. I am flattered that you would request my opinion on your scars and, although I do appreciate being called "knowledgeable", I would like to point out that I'm just someone who does his research, and is very direct.

That being said, as it has been pointed out numerous times, your skin is in good condition However, I'm a firm believer that A. photos rarely do acne scars justice and B. scars can bother people, regardless of their size/severeness.

Start by staying away from lasers. Too expensive and unstable, for someone who suffers from scarring that is barely noticeable lol.

I would recommend TCA CROSS for the tiny icepicks/enlarged pores, chemical peels for the hyper-pigmentation/marks and a Coke and a smile for the fact that your skin looks great, either way. smile.png

Good luck!

Thanks so much for the response.

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I am now on the search to find something that I can use to help treat my scars and marks while I wait for the six to nine month downtime from Accutane.

So far the only thing that I have found is emu oil (I am still waiting for some to arrive in the mail).

Does anyone have any tips? :)

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more pictures would be helpful.

Sorry.

I am new this whole photo thing. What type of photos do you think would help?

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more pictures would be helpful.

Sorry.

I am new this whole photo thing. What type of photos do you think would help?

hmm, try taking one under fluorescent bright lighting (i.e. garage lights) and at angles that show the scars.

Also take one where sunlight hits your face from the side and from behind.

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more pictures would be helpful.

Sorry.

I am new this whole photo thing. What type of photos do you think would help?

hmm, try taking one under fluorescent bright lighting (i.e. garage lights) and at angles that show the scars.

Also take one where sunlight hits your face from the side and from behind.

Okay. I will try to get some and post them here soon.

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Just a quick update:

I think that I am going to start to use Retin-A micro gel (0.04%). I will let you guys/girls know how it goes. I plan on using emu oil as well.

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Woh. I just noticed that when the forum shanged so did the size of my pictures. How can I change this?

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QUOTE (Anti - Em @ Sep 16 2011, 05:55 PM)

QUOTE (Pord @ Sep 16 2011, 08:39 PM)

I have been thinking of getting some emu oil to maybe help.

Someone told me that I should not take any vitamins with vitamin A. They said it will make my scars worse. Is this true?

It might. It would make your wait to fix the scars longer since you need to be Vit.A (Tane) free for at least 6 months.

From the pic I don't think I'd risk TCA cross. I think your scars aren't defined enough and it could make them deeper.

Rolling may work REALLY well for you, but you need to wait at least 6 months. I'd probably wait a year just to be safe. You don't want worse scars bc you didn't wait long enough.

Thanks for the reply.

I will probably stop taking my multi-vitamin for another six months it looks like.

I am still looking for a good emu oil. There are so many options . . . .

I will look at rolling a little more. I will wait until I get back to the states to do it if that is the route I go.

Wait--can taking vitamins on (or immediately after) an accutane course really contribute to scarring? I have never heard this before but it makes me nervous (i am on accutane and I take vit e, d, b, c, etc). I have only read that you're not supposed to take vitamin A while on accutane. If anyone else has heard anything about this please feel free to answer...

Also Pord, your skin looks really good! For what it's worth, no one actually has perfect skin, so I doubt anyone actually notices that anything's wrong with yours unless you point it out to them. Then again, I know how you feel 'cause mine's like this too--even worse depending on the lighting-- and I just cannot believe how much it affects me... Anyways, I definitely think Retin A's worth starting. All I know is I used to use differin (which is weaker and not even a real retin) and ever since I stopped my skin texture has looked like absolute shit. Apparently, it was doing WAY more than I ever gave it credit for. I am dying to get off the accutane so I can start using a retin. Good luck with it.

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QUOTE (Anti - Em @ Sep 16 2011, 05:55 PM)

QUOTE (Pord @ Sep 16 2011, 08:39 PM)

I have been thinking of getting some emu oil to maybe help.

Someone told me that I should not take any vitamins with vitamin A. They said it will make my scars worse. Is this true?

It might. It would make your wait to fix the scars longer since you need to be Vit.A (Tane) free for at least 6 months.

From the pic I don't think I'd risk TCA cross. I think your scars aren't defined enough and it could make them deeper.

Rolling may work REALLY well for you, but you need to wait at least 6 months. I'd probably wait a year just to be safe. You don't want worse scars bc you didn't wait long enough.

Thanks for the reply.

I will probably stop taking my multi-vitamin for another six months it looks like.

I am still looking for a good emu oil. There are so many options . . . .

I will look at rolling a little more. I will wait until I get back to the states to do it if that is the route I go.

Wait--can taking vitamins on (or immediately after) an accutane course really contribute to scarring? I have never heard this before but it makes me nervous (i am on accutane and I take vit e, d, b, c, etc). I have only read that you're not supposed to take vitamin A while on accutane. If anyone else has heard anything about this please feel free to answer...

Also Pord, your skin looks really good! For what it's worth, no one actually has perfect skin, so I doubt anyone actually notices that anything's wrong with yours unless you point it out to them. Then again, I know how you feel 'cause mine's like this too--even worse depending on the lighting-- and I just cannot believe how much it affects me... Anyways, I definitely think Retin A's worth starting. All I know is I used to use differin (which is weaker and not even a real retin) and ever since I stopped my skin texture has looked like absolute shit. Apparently, it was doing WAY more than I ever gave it credit for. I am dying to get off the accutane so I can start using a retin. Good luck with it.

I am not sure on the whole Vitamin A thing making scarring worse. I just know that you should not take it with Accutane.

I sure hope that the Retin-A at least helps a little. :)

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I was just wondering if it is better to apply emu oil alone or to mix it with a moisturizer?

Thanks.

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Hey Pjord, are you still using the retin A? How is it working for you? My dr took me off accutane and switched me to the Retin A .05% cream after I made my earlier post and my skin is starting to look really smooth now. But my dr told me to use the retin right away--like the day I quit taking accutane--and the first week I was using it my face looked SO BAD. I dunno if my skin was inflamed from irritation or what, but I swear to god, it looked like I had full-on rolling scars for a couple of days. At the same time, it seemed like my indents were literally melting away--and I guess they have 'cause it's only been a couple weeks and my face looks SO MUCH smoother now! Did this happen to you? Also, do you use your retin before or after moisturizing?

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Hey Pjord, are you still using the retin A? How is it working for you? My dr took me off accutane and switched me to the Retin A .05% cream after I made my earlier post and my skin is starting to look really smooth now. But my dr told me to use the retin right away--like the day I quit taking accutane--and the first week I was using it my face looked SO BAD. I dunno if my skin was inflamed from irritation or what, but I swear to god, it looked like I had full-on rolling scars for a couple of days. At the same time, it seemed like my indents were literally melting away--and I guess they have 'cause it's only been a couple weeks and my face looks SO MUCH smoother now! Did this happen to you? Also, do you use your retin before or after moisturizing?

I am still using the Retin-A micro gel 0.1%. It has been alright. It is too early to tell I think. I have been using it for a few weeks now about every other day. I have not noticed major improvements yet. How long have you been using it now? I use Retin-A before moisturizing.

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Aw man, I was going to tell you to do Lactic Acid peels (40% and the move up to 50%) like I did because my face looked liked yours (only my red marks were darker) and the lactic acid really worked wonders. But I don't think it's a good idea to use lactic acid while on Retin-A (I might be wrong but please be careful and research it.)

I've tried Emu Oil and it didn't help me at all.

Lactic Acid is really the only thing that worked for my red marks. I saw a huge improvement after 2 or 3 peels.

As for the shallow scarring, I also have the same thing. I can't help ya there, since I'm trying to figure out that bit myself. I may try skin needling/dermarolling but I'm trying to gather more information on it before i take the plunge.

Good luck though I hope everything works out.

P.S. I was on Retin-A w/Minocycline 100mg x2 a day. and the Retin A did NOTHING for my red marks. Absolutely NOTHING. It' helps prevent breakouts however since it unclogs your pores, but it doesn't "burn" the red marks off like lactic acid does.

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Aw man, I was going to tell you to do Lactic Acid peels (40% and the move up to 50%) like I did because my face looked liked yours (only my red marks were darker) and the lactic acid really worked wonders. But I don't think it's a good idea to use lactic acid while on Retin-A (I might be wrong but please be careful and research it.)

I've tried Emu Oil and it didn't help me at all.

Lactic Acid is really the only thing that worked for my red marks. I saw a huge improvement after 2 or 3 peels.

As for the shallow scarring, I also have the same thing. I can't help ya there, since I'm trying to figure out that bit myself. I may try skin needling/dermarolling but I'm trying to gather more information on it before i take the plunge.

Good luck though I hope everything works out.

P.S. I was on Retin-A w/Minocycline 100mg x2 a day. and the Retin A did NOTHING for my red marks. Absolutely NOTHING. It' helps prevent breakouts however since it unclogs your pores, but it doesn't "burn" the red marks off like lactic acid does.

Thanks for the comment. How long were you on Retin-A?

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Aw man, I was going to tell you to do Lactic Acid peels (40% and the move up to 50%) like I did because my face looked liked yours (only my red marks were darker) and the lactic acid really worked wonders. But I don't think it's a good idea to use lactic acid while on Retin-A (I might be wrong but please be careful and research it.)

I've tried Emu Oil and it didn't help me at all.

Lactic Acid is really the only thing that worked for my red marks. I saw a huge improvement after 2 or 3 peels.

As for the shallow scarring, I also have the same thing. I can't help ya there, since I'm trying to figure out that bit myself. I may try skin needling/dermarolling but I'm trying to gather more information on it before i take the plunge.

Good luck though I hope everything works out.

P.S. I was on Retin-A w/Minocycline 100mg x2 a day. and the Retin A did NOTHING for my red marks. Absolutely NOTHING. It' helps prevent breakouts however since it unclogs your pores, but it doesn't "burn" the red marks off like lactic acid does.

Fmylife, I think it probably doesn't help your red marks because you're on Minocycline. Minocycline tends to prolong hyperpigmentation and sometimes, it actually makes it worse.... I was on it for like 2 years, and I definitely noticed that it did this (don't worry it's not permanent). Retin A seems like it's bleaching all the color out of my face, but then again, it also makes my face red sometimes--probably because it's an irritant. Either way, my hyperpigmentation seems to be getting lighter.

I have only been using it for 3-4 weeks, but I've already noticed that even while this stuff seems to be improving my skin, it also seems to be making my pores bigger! I've stopped using it every night--i think it's way too strong for my skin--and now I'm afraid to use it without moisturizer underneath. I have never been one to care about pores, but I figure I don't need giant pores on top of the rest of my skin problems. The only thing is, I can't quit using it completely because it's keeping me clearer than accutane ever did (I've had ZERO zits since I started using this crap). Also, if it's really supposed to build collagen I figure i need it. I'd rather have scarred pores than boxcars or rolling scars--and it looked like I was developing a bunch of those a month ago.

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Aw man, I was going to tell you to do Lactic Acid peels (40% and the move up to 50%) like I did because my face looked liked yours (only my red marks were darker) and the lactic acid really worked wonders. But I don't think it's a good idea to use lactic acid while on Retin-A (I might be wrong but please be careful and research it.)

I've tried Emu Oil and it didn't help me at all.

Lactic Acid is really the only thing that worked for my red marks. I saw a huge improvement after 2 or 3 peels.

As for the shallow scarring, I also have the same thing. I can't help ya there, since I'm trying to figure out that bit myself. I may try skin needling/dermarolling but I'm trying to gather more information on it before i take the plunge.

Good luck though I hope everything works out.

P.S. I was on Retin-A w/Minocycline 100mg x2 a day. and the Retin A did NOTHING for my red marks. Absolutely NOTHING. It' helps prevent breakouts however since it unclogs your pores, but it doesn't "burn" the red marks off like lactic acid does.

Fmylife, I think it probably doesn't help your red marks because you're on Minocycline. Minocycline tends to prolong hyperpigmentation and sometimes, it actually makes it worse.... I was on it for like 2 years, and I definitely noticed that it did this (don't worry it's not permanent). Retin A seems like it's bleaching all the color out of my face, but then again, it also makes my face red sometimes--probably because it's an irritant. Either way, my hyperpigmentation seems to be getting lighter.

I have only been using it for 3-4 weeks, but I've already noticed that even while this stuff seems to be improving my skin, it also seems to be making my pores bigger! I've stopped using it every night--i think it's way too strong for my skin--and now I'm afraid to use it without moisturizer underneath. I have never been one to care about pores, but I figure I don't need giant pores on top of the rest of my skin problems. The only thing is, I can't quit using it completely because it's keeping me clearer than accutane ever did (I've had ZERO zits since I started using this crap). Also, if it's really supposed to build collagen I figure i need it. I'd rather have scarred pores than boxcars or rolling scars--and it looked like I was developing a bunch of those a month ago.

What type of Retin-A are you using? Did your derm tell you to use it for the hyperpigmentation (or are you using it for another reason)?

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QUOTE (Pord @ Sep 16 2011, 08:39 PM)

I have been thinking of getting some emu oil to maybe help.

Someone told me that I should not take any vitamins with vitamin A. They said it will make my scars worse. Is this true?

It might. It would make your wait to fix the scars longer since you need to be Vit.A (Tane) free for at least 6 months.

From the pic I don't think I'd risk TCA cross. I think your scars aren't defined enough and it could make them deeper.

Rolling may work REALLY well for you, but you need to wait at least 6 months. I'd probably wait a year just to be safe. You don't want worse scars bc you didn't wait long enough.

Why do you think rolling may work?

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I just saw your most recent pictures, and I literally have the EXACT same scars as you. They are really only visible if i tilt my head upwards and the light casts a shadow in the indentations.

I was wondering what kind of scars these are as well, and what can be done about htem?

And is there any chance of them healing on ntheir own?

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