Obviously, I know treatment doesn't work for everyone, and may not be a quick fix, but I still totally disagree with you.
First of all, cancer and diabetes aren't even close to comparable to acne. Obviously, If someone told me I'd be born with a disease like that, I'd still want to live a little before dying. It's either live a little, or go back to a non existent nothingness.
Just because you have a seemingly untreatable case of acne and don't want kids doesn't mean you make sense for doing so. Everyone doesn't have some biological urge to get knocked up. That's what people do. They fall in love, and desire to procreate and build a life and family with the one they love. If you don't want kids at all regardless of acne, fine, I respect that. Everyone doesn't want kids. But if you want to let your acne control such a special element of life, go ahead. But don't be so ignorant as to say others are selfish for not allowing acne to control their lives. I'm not going to get angry with my mother and father for passing their acne to me. And why would I? They couldn't control it either, but that's not going to stop them from giving love to their child. What would I say? "Gee Mom and Dad, you should've had that abortion instead of giving me these darn bumps! Sure, I'm loved and taken care of, and alive, but damn you for the acne!" Sure there's adoption, but I want my own child...that I created. No offense.
And sorry to sound insensitive, but not having children because of acne is just unintelligent. Yes acne is terrible, and hurtful, but to say you'll never procreate because of ACNE? COME ON. Think a little. That's immature. There's people who have a history of much more serious ailments and still have children. And no, they aren't selfish. They're just not dumb enough to not bring a life into the world due to something beyond their control. I can't imagine the looks on your future husbands/wifes face when you deny them a child because of, of all things, acne. That's just really sad.
Don't let circumstances control and ruin your life. Especially this.
And as far as I'm concerned, "they" know how to cure acne. "They" just choose not to. Cures don't pay the bills if you haven't realized. But that's just my opinion of this corrupt world we live in.
Now I dont want to seem like I am trying to change your mind, I am only responding because you say its unintelligent to have this stance. (which is your opinion and is fine to have)
But it seems,the way you are looking at is, is as if everything will be perfectly A-OK for the kid.
You do realize you are on a message board right now, that has an entire forum
dedicated to the psychological effects of acne right? How is it unintelligent to try and prevent a person you are bringing into this world from needlessly suffering? In my opinion, from not only an empathetic standpoint, but also a scientific stand point, what you are saying is unintelligent.
(not meant as insult, I dont think you are dumb at all)You say there are tons of people out there with worse conditions who still have children, and you are right. Should they? Probably not.
Because how many hours, days and nights do you think that person spent crying, feeling lonely and just pissed off at the world before they finally mustered up enough courage or strength to "try" and move on? Why even risk putting your kids through something like that? Why continue the cycle?
It doesnt matter how long you live with something, that feeling
doesnt go away. A guy in a wheel chair might "say" he's gotten used to it, or over it, but when he wakes up in the morning or when he needs to do something he can't do as easily as others, those feeling come right back, if even for a second.
Now substitute wheel chair for whatever genetic disorder you want. Now you will say you cant compare having acne to being in a wheel chair, ok, tell that to this guy
http://topnews.in/la...evere-_acne.jpgor this guy
http://s1.hubimg.com/u/243736_f260.jpgor this guy
http://acnequestions...09/07/acne8.jpgAnd a thousand other guys and girls who are sitting in their basements too afraid to go outside because their skin is covered huge cysts and holes. They might as well be in wheelchairs, because when they go into the general population, people will look at them like
"wow did you see that guy?" Why should a person be brought into this already shitty world (or corrupt as you yourself put it) and not only have to deal with the horrible things that happen every day, but ALSO the crap they inherited from you that they have no control over?
You act as if I am talking about a little pimple here and there. Do you know how much pain acne can actually cause? I dont even mean emotional pain, the physical pain of having your skin swell up on your back and chest and face, where your shirts rub you the wrong way and causes a sharp pain and causes your skin to burst open., then leaving you with scars for the rest of your life.
I am sorry, but if you know the risks involved, and still advocate that thinking of the potential risks your child will have does not matter,will not shape the person they grow up to be, will not cause them to come home crying every night, then I have to say your opinion on this is unintelligent. But I respect your right to have it.
And as a final note, I do think people have kids for selfish reasons most of the time. otherwise, why else would you have them? You have them because you want them (or an accident), not for some reason of greater good to populate the world to make it a better place.
For every 1 person you see "happy" and "living life" with what ever genetic inheritances they have, ask yourself, how many hours have they spent crying? Seriously.
From now on, when you are outside or the mall or where ever, and you see someone with horrible cystic acne, or a hunched back, or has some form of mental disorder. Ask yourself how many hours has this person spent crying, alone, been picked on, or treated like shit.Try it out, I bet you might start to look at the world differently, and hey if not, kudos to you. You are able to escape having to feel empathy for other people.
Maybe I just like people too much and dont want to see them suffer more then they already need to, that's probably why I became a comedian.
I read everything you said, and understand what you're saying, but I still feel that choosing not to ever have kids because of acne is ridiculous.
I have acne. I've had acne since the age of 12, and I'm now 19. I've had acne in nearly every place you can imagine. I have acne and blemishes on my back, my face, my chest, hell, even my bikini line for God sakes! and have done drastic things to rid myself of them. It's extremely frustrating, deeply upsetting, depressing, and aggravating. Sometimes I feel so down about it I don't even get out of bed till 6 pm. I know how it feels to have flawless skin and months later end up with blemishes all over your back. I know how it feels to go to sleep one night and wake the next day with pimples, or new blemishes that you didn't have before. And that's not the only genetic problem I have. In addition to acne, I've had persistent depression and anxiety for over 6 years straight, I sweat profusely even in cool weather, my skin is moderately oily, I have no energy as a result of my depression and insomnia (I get 4 hours of sleep at the most, and sleep sometimes till 3 in the afternoon), and for whatever reason, I grow hair in places where hair shouldn't be (knuckles, chin hairs, things like that). And those are all genetic problems. But like I said, am I going to call my Mother a selfish person for having me? It's not like she knew I'd actually have all these problems (nor do think she'd even care, but that's another story for a whole nother' thread -____-)
I've quit jobs due to it, I've lost friends because I lacked any confidence to even hold a decent conversation, I've tried burning my skin off, being dishonest to raise money to correct this problem. I've done and felt many things as a result of my acne. So it's not like I'm someone who has two pimples a month and is insensitive. No, my acne is not disfiguring or severe, but it's definitely bad enough. However, I'm not going to go so far as to never have a child because they may have acne. And I'm not selfish for doing so. I can't imagine a world where everyone in the with an upsetting illness ceased to procreate. In that case, no one would ever be born again! lol. I'm just saying...
There are treatments for acne, and the sooner the problem is taken care of, the better. Everyone's problem isn't permanent, and I hope you're aware that the odds of a teenager, no matter what family you come from, having acne is extremely high. Do you know many people who have NEVER had ANY acne? I know I don't. But my point is, letting your circumstances determine your future in a negative way isn't the way to go about it.
But one thing I will say is this: If you are someone with severe, disfiguring acne, and you don't want children for that reason, I will say that I wouldn't call you illogical. I'd be more understanding, but I'd find it sad nonetheless (that is, if you legitimately want children). I do care about people, and understand their pain, but this still seems extreme. I guess I'm just one of those people who gives life the finger. I don't like not having control over anything, and letting this control my future life with another person is surely one of them.
But thanks for the compliment. Nothing better than being your true self!
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