Posted 13 August 2011 - 09:11 PM
Sundown Naturals Zinc
Marks Mark Multi
Posted 13 August 2011 - 09:28 PM
Sundown Naturals Zinc
Marks Mark Multi
i suggest taking one a day for maybe a week then work up to 2 for a week then 3 for the rest of the time=] just basically start slow
Posted 13 August 2011 - 10:56 PM
Posted 14 August 2011 - 04:18 AM
Sundown Naturals Zinc
Marks Mark Multi
30-50 mg a day is fine but don't go over 50 mg a day because it becomes toxic in high doses.
Make sure you take it preferably with meals and copper since zinc taken over time can deplete copper levels.
Zinc gluconate or zinc methionine are the best forms of zinc to go for.
Zinc helps reduce keratin levels. Excess keratin may block hair follicles, and lead to spots. Zinc does this by raising the level of vitamin A in the blood, and reducing the levels of the hormone IGF-1.
Zinc has been shown to be anti-inflammatory, this is good because acne is exacerbated by inflammation.
Try it for 3 months because that's what a lot of the studies seem to work off of that basis and access it off the 3 months to see if it's improving things.
Also, try to find a good multi vitamin without iodine or just take separate vitamins for all of the essential vitamin and mineral supplements which you can get in higher doses anyways. Excessive amounts of iodine gets released through the pores and is known to irritate acne and can possibly make it worse.
I hope that helps, good luck!
Posted 14 August 2011 - 09:09 AM
Posted 15 August 2011 - 05:20 AM
You're welcome. It would not be very good to take 75 mg of zinc per day. Remember zinc in high doses can become toxic, excess zinc depletes other important minerals such as copper, magnesium, and iron. Which are are very important for your health, hair, and skin. Too much zinc and deficiencies in these minerals can result in hair loss, and loss of color and other things. They key is balance.
Studies have shown that zinc levels are actually lower in people who suffer from acne. Also, researchers have given zinc to people with acne and found that they get improvement in their condition. To give an example of studies that was done that shows this was actually done two decades ago. It was a double blind placebo control trial. It's a really good quality type of scientific study. Researchers gave 30 mg of zinc gluconate per day to people with acne and they found that they got significant improvements in their condition compared to a placebo group suffering from acne who didn't take any zinc at all. So 30 mg of zinc gluconate per day helped improve acne.
There is another type of zinc that is often promoted for people with acne. It's called zinc methionine. There was a study done actually in 2010 and they gave people zinc methionine with antioxidents, it was a combination supplement. And what they found is that they got very good results in terms of improvement with peoples acne with this combination. So perhaps, what's been suggested that zinc methionine is better than zinc gluconate because it breaks down faster and the body absorbs it faster. But I think either way which ever one you go for, zinc gluconate or zinc methionine, they both probably work well it's probably a case of experimentation. The dosage looks like it's about 30 mg per day and you take that in one go or you can have a divided dosage 15 mg in the morning and 15 mg later on.
So 30 mg of zinc gluconate or zinc methionine helped improve acne. Remember to take it with copper and meals.
Posted 15 August 2011 - 06:51 AM
Why go straight to a mega dose? Why not try a sensible dose instead? And how's your diet? Sleep? Physical activity? Digestion? Etc.
I took zinc way back when as probably my first step using nutrients and health for acne. In a combo pill called a stress formula consisting of b-complex, C and probably about 25mg of zinc. It made my skin a lot less oily and I rarely had inflamed acne on my face. But it was when I improved my diet that my skin cleared. And has stayed mostly clear on my not particularly strict diet. And I haven't taken additional zinc in years.
Posted 15 August 2011 - 12:41 PM
Oh and since your all keen on not overdosing on zinc should I just take about 25 mg in morning? Anyone have any suggestions to changing my diet?
Posted 16 August 2011 - 01:23 AM
Omega-3 in the form of fish oil or flax seed oil
Zinc with copper
Those are some of the few essentials but remember to get most of your nutrients from a healthy diet.
Dairy is actually a poor quality of nutrients. Most of the enzymes and good bacteria are stripped away in it's processing. The cows are fed corn and grains and are milked 10 months out of the year. I would eliminate dairy all together if you are suffering from acne since it can cause hormonal imbalances and cause acne. If you still wish to drink milk though, the best way is to get milk is in it's raw form directly from a farm that has grass fed cows. Other ways to get calcium are from vegetables like broccoli, and you can drink almond milk as an alternative. You can also take calcium supplements to ensure you get your daily amount.
25 mg of zinc with copper after breakfast or dinner should be fine. You won't have a deficiency so that will help with acne and also considering you get zinc from other foods as well, such as meats, nuts, and seeds.
You really want to reduce the quantity and improve the quality of your carbohydrates, by looking at glycemic load and glycemic indexs. You can find those online so that's probably the best bet to check those out. Eliminate dairy. Eliminate or reduce grains and beans. Same with sugar, all forms, malts, honey, glucose, fructose. The other thing to do is make sure you have protein with each meal. That can help stabalize sugar balance. And fiber is very important for blood sugar control as well, and that requires that you eat lots of vegetables. More so than fruit because fruit still has sugars in it. You don't have to completely eliminate fruit, things like berries tend to be much better to eat and have much less of an effect on blood sugar balance and have antioxidants. Which are actually quite useful probably for blood sugar control as well in some ways, more indirectly that is.
Well, those are some ideas. Good luck! I hope that helps improve your acne.
Posted 16 August 2011 - 06:36 AM
You don't need that much calcium, you need the other nutrients needed to use calcium and make bone and to not do things that deplete calcium. For example, magnesium of which there usually isn't much in a multi because it would make a really big pill. And you should avoid sodas and their phosphoric acid. There's calcium in spinach, broccoli, almonds, all kinds of foods. A very large portion of the planet's population consumes no dairy. But if you really think you must, yogurt is a better source than drinking milk with the added benefit of probiotics.
What about sugar and refined carbs? They should be limited, possibly completely avoided, and if consumed should only be in combination with good fiber, fat and protein rich foods.
Your exercise habits sound all right, but you should try to be active everyday. We are meant to move around a lot daily walking, doing chores, taking stairs, etc.
More info on they many ways diet and lifestyle habits like sleep affect acne:
Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:50 AM
I am surprisely active when I'm in my house since I usually use my stairs several times every day. In a couple days school will start and I will be walking more.
Thanks again for replying!
Edited by Brown Spots, 16 August 2011 - 10:51 AM.
Posted 16 August 2011 - 10:55 AM
Take care :]
Posted 16 August 2011 - 09:12 PM
Posted 16 August 2011 - 09:23 PM
Take care :]
Thanks Cloudscloudsclouds I think I might of seen your post before actually. My skin sadly is oily dry combo, oily forehead and chin with dry cheeks, but my skin only get kinda shiny now. Before like 3-6 months ago my entire face was oily and I could take a tissue to drap off excess oil. Now I just wish I could make my unshiny... anyone know how to? Also I know this off topic but I start school Thursday and was wondering if anyone has overnight treatments to help reduce redness and swelling? Beside toothpaste what would help as I've seen that everywhere I've looked online, and yes I've tried toothpaste many it has 20-40 success rate for me.
Edited by Brown Spots, 16 August 2011 - 09:33 PM.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:45 PM
Men need about 12 mg of elemental zinc per day. However, If you're taking 60 mg of zinc gluconate a day then you're only getting 8.4 mg of elemental zinc.
Bullshit. They give you the amount of elemental zinc in the pills so it's "15mg zinc from zinc gluconate" and that means 15mg elemental zinc.
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