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#1 switch124

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:03 PM

Im beginning to realize how it all comes together, acne (in my case at least) is directly related to my ability to digest food. I believe all "acne triggers" can be backtracked to the gut and eventually to poor digestion. But thats for another day.

What I've found personally is that masturbation and sex cause me to break out in the worst way possible. 10 times worse than if I ate an ice cream sunday and a pizza. I use to think this was caused by hormones or by some mineral/vitamin that I was loosing in the process, but now I've come to realize that afterwards, for several days in fact, I suffer from frequent gas and poor digestion.

I've tried to do research to find a connection between the two, and I've actually found several other people suffering from similar problems, but I have yet to find an actual solution. In a last ditch effort of the night I decided to post the question here in hopes that someone might have an idea or at least a guess as to how and why sex/masturbation causes poor digestion.

Thanks for taking this seriously.

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Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:51 PM

Ok. A little disclaimer, but I'm speculating here. But I think this makes sense. Bear with me. smile.gif

So acne has its roots in the gut. Hormones is a big part of this, digestion, diet, EVERYTHING. It's actually more difficult (I think) to point out what ISN'T a factor, the bodies are such complicated things and doctors don't even know everything that goes on, especially when it comes to digestion. Inside us is an open system, which means that there are basically too many things going on to know everything.

There are two aspects to hormones that affect us. They are:
- Producing hormones
- Clearing out hormones

Both of these functions must be working to have not only healthy skin, but a healthy body. If you have one and not the other, you're screwed.

Personally I believe the second function, the clearing out, is where people who've problems with masturbation are especially weak at. It wouldn't make sense that the hormones released during orgasm would hurt someone, unless the body was ill-equipped to get rid of them afterwards, which raises blood toxicity.

The skin, also known as the 'third kidney,' is the body's last cleansing organ. When the toxicity levels in the body are raised, and the body has used up all it's tricks (no more insulin to store sugar, no more fat cells to store sugar etc), it purges through the skin. Voila! Skin problems!

The liver is in charge of deactivating spent hormones, and it can be overwhelmed and backed up, especially after years and years of eating poorly. Also, you may not even be eating the right things that the liver needs to deactivate - basically sulphur (best coming from fermented sulphur-rich veggies, like cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower, onions and garlic)

I'm not sure if this makes sense. It's so hard to talk about this because again, there are just sooooo many things going on. BUT I'm trying to say that masturbation (I think) is not a problem in of itself, but more of an exacerbator of an already bad problem. I would think that one would have to fix their digestive issues first, and then see if the masturbation problem remained. Otherwise, everything is in everything else's way.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 12:44 AM

Masturbation definitely affects my acne, it takes a week for oil to go back to normal. Dairy does this too, so I have some hormonal problems.

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Posted 01 June 2011 - 08:18 AM

Oh, and I just thought of something while waking up (this shit plagues my dreams!) -
It would make sense that after sex/masturbating you'd experience oily skin, because excess androgen in the blood triggers oil production.

It is this excess androgen making sebum production go mental
PLUS
Acne bacteria
PLUS
Blood toxicity (the stuff that's trying to get expelled through the skin)

that causes acne.

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It is necessary for you to ejaculate regularly to maintain health and healthy sperm.

This has also been found to be true if you are going to maintain a healthy prostate gland.

But, Over Masturbation is an enormous drain on male vitality. And, for just one reason. It depletes your body of energy and vital mineral elements (primarily Zinc).


The loss of zinc thing popped up for me, zinc being an important supplement when curing acne.

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Over Masturbation and Fatigue -
The "Scientific" Biological Explanation

Frequent masturbation (Over Masturbation) and ejaculation stimulate excessive acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. This can result in over production of sex hormones and neuro-transmitters (the chemical substances that make your nerves send the messages to your body and brain) such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

A large amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters causes the brain and the adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion. This causes the brain and the body functions to become extremely sympathetic. With Over Masturbation, there is actually a big change in the body chemistry.

If this continues for a long period of time, physiological changes occur.

In simple terms, you become dopey and sleepy (no, not two of the Seven Dwarves!). Your body and immune system also become weaker.


Maybe you're not technically a masturbation-fiend, but if your body functions are already weak (i.e. from internal issues that are also causing acne) then maybe for some, masturbation just pushes them over the edge. Thoughts?

source: http://www.prostate-...sturbation.html

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 10:45 AM

it possible people over at reuniting.info have noticed all sorts of withdrawal symptoms after going without masturbation/ orgasm. the indigestion should get better the longer you go without... 2 weeks or so is usually how long withdrawals last. check out the science over at reuniting.info and yourbrainonporn .

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Posted 02 June 2011 - 04:07 PM

masturbation is the same as sex, therefore you are also saying sex causes digestion problems.

i do not see any evidence for this in myself, or anywhere ever in my thousands of stuuides ive read about every inch of the human body.

but that doesnt mean it doesnt have any effect on digestion, just that , there isnt much evidence, so it is likely to be wrong.

and for this, i generally do not agree with this statement.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 08:10 PM

Mei-ling Im glad to know that Im not the only person plagued by this problem, and that I am not the only one thinking about such seemingly odd things all the time. Your enthusiasm means a lot, especially after being ragged on for evening mentioning a connection in so many other posts.

Anyway, I know its been a while but I've found something rather interesting. Perhaps I did not mention this before but I have a very weak digestive track, thank you Accutane and genetics. Anyway, as I've stated before masturbation typically upsets my digestion, (graphic warning) as in I get very lose stoles almost immediately after. Furthermore, I think it inflames my intestines, which I struggle to keep un-inflammed anyway.

I experienced these same symptoms after I ran a very hard 5k road race. I suppose I experienced what was called "runners diarrhea" or "runners trot". What I also experienced was a similar break out...hmmmm. Perhaps masturbation is simply a huge strain on the body, similar to running an all out 5k.

With this in mind I did some research on runners diarrhea. Theres not much you can really do, they say to avoid certain artificial sweeteners, and actually reduce your fiber in take. Overall, nothing very promising. I did find however, that you should try and empty your system as much as possible. The reasoning is that the blood that would normally be needed to help digest food is now in your muscles helping you move. Hence you get bad digestion. But no one really knows what causes runners diarrhea.

Nevertheless, this got me thinking. My idea now is to try and "get at it" in the morning. This way Ill have been fasting all night. Furthermore, I will abstain from eating as long as I can afterwards. I have not masturbated in at least a month. I dont think about sex very often, in fact after the "2 week mark" from abstaining from masturbation you kind of get a serious drop in sex drive. I've been forced into this life style which has really helped clear my acne; even masturbating once a week causes serious break outs for me. I will not have time to conduct this experiment this coming weekend but as soon as I can I will post my results.



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Posted 14 July 2011 - 12:55 AM

Getting 15 minutes of direct sunlight daily cured any breakouts i had after sex/ejaculating. I can now go at it with a girl and not be worried the next day if i breakout.
I went on accutane as well btw and this didnt cure it, it was getting sunlight.

Edited by capture, 14 July 2011 - 12:59 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 10:15 AM

i realize i posted two different viewpoints on the same thread, but now i believe a connection could exist.

the only possibility i could think of is that there may be a high zinc content in sperm, and the more you masturbate, the more zinc you need. i have found some evidence of this, zinc may have a major role in male reproductive function as a whole, seperate from its high content in sperm.

but here is where zinc and digestion come into play, zinc has a major role in intestinal permeability(gut barrier function, leaky gut, etc), and possibly peristalsis(muscle contractions that push food through), in its role in creating nitric oxide.

all of these factors can affect how bacteria inhabit the intestine, leading to, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth or SIBO, which leads to maldigestion, because strong peristalsis is one way the body keeps most of the bacteria out of the small intestine and into the colon, otherwise if too many bad bacteria are on the surface of the small intestine, you will have a hard time absorbing nutrients. and once leaky gut or intestinal permeability is compromised, now the immune system may come more into play, and you may have food allergys or food sensitivitys.


if you do a google scholar search for zinc and intestinal permeability, you will find some evidence for this connection, there is scarce evidence for zincs role in peristalsis, but i have hypothesized/deduced an indirect relationship through zincs role in nitric oxide, which itself is then related to peristalsis, so the relationship is less direct.

Edited by AutonomousOne1980, 14 July 2011 - 10:17 AM.


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Posted 14 July 2011 - 03:23 PM

The thing about zinc loss through ejaculation is that if you buy into that theory, taking a zinc supplement should entirely cease the problem.

The amount of zinc you lose in each ejaculation is honestly not that much. Something like an average of 0.7 mg of zinc. Considering you should be getting about 15 mg of Zinc each day from food, that's not a huge loss by any means.

Also semen is made of more than just zinc (potassium, prostaglandin, fructose and citric acid are other components) so one could make the argument that you're getting acne by not eating enough fruit and/or citrus fruits.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 07:11 PM

I get the same problem. Masturbation gives me digestion problems, in a similar way than lack of sleep does.

Also, anyone else feel tired after masturbation? If I do so at night, the next day I'll feel very tired even though I slept. If I do it early in the day, I'll feel very tired as well throughout the day.

So maybe it isn't masturbation itself, but rather something that happens after ejaculation that causes your body to be in a similar state to the state you are in when you don't sleep enough. Maybe this leads to digestion problem in some people, and hence acne results from this afterwards.

Edited by Chocobot, 15 July 2011 - 07:12 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2011 - 05:02 AM

the above statement (feeling sleepy after) is due to loss of something called dopamine. take some fish oil it should combat this.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 12:13 PM

i dont get this board sometimes. you guys who abstain from masturbating because you think it affects your skin, what are you going to do when you get a gf or wife? never have sex because you think it'll make you break out?

Edited by Grind, 25 July 2011 - 12:14 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (Grind @ Jul 25 2011, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont get this board sometimes. you guys who abstain from masturbating because you think it affects your skin, what are you going to do when you get a gf or wife? never have sex because you think it'll make you break out?


The goal is to clear up acne by balancing out hormone levels or whatever deficiencies in zinc and other minerals that years of chronic masturbation has led to; after your body is in harmony then you are free to continue your life as normal. Normal means everything in moderation; not masturbating daily. I don't believe anyone has said you have to give up sex and masturbation for life, that's what I don't get sometimes.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:56 PM

my gf would be very unhappy if she didnt get it at least twice a day. so that must mean i'd be fuked if i thought that had anything to do with my skin

but good luck though, in all honesty.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 09:36 PM

News to Report:

This past week, I had a dire urge "to do the do". I fought it for several days. At this time my skin was worse than it had been. I was having moderate digestive issues and I was in an awful mood. Eventually, I caved, gave in an did what needed to be done (masturbate, if you're having trouble following this). Almost immediately my skin got better, my digestion improved and my mood improved immensely. However, the next day I found that I had broken out. Not as bad as I normally would have. Which is an IMPROVEMENT!

I tested somewhat of a new theory. I did not eat anything afterwards. Also, 2 hours afterwords I took 4-5 probiotics (recommended dosage 2). Then I went to bed, approximately 3 hours afterwards.

My skin did not break out fully until a few days later. The majority of these pimples were located around my mouth, with one larger one on my forehead. Approximately 1 week later these pimples have, for the most part, healed, noticeably better than other pimples I have had (given the other pimples were on a different part of my face). This breakout, I believe was caused strictly by hormones, and less so by poor digestion.

I was hesitant to "megadose" on probiotics. For one because I had never really taken more than was recommended on the bottle before, and two because I had read that taking too many probiotics can actually mess up your individual gut bacterial assortment (fingerprint sort of deal).

But I did it anyway, and I believe it did help. I'll be sure to continue to look into this theory, but if you find that you can not resist, try taking a few (more than usual) probiotics sometime around the incident.


Its great to see that other people are contributing ideas to this page. I have seen such an improvement in my skin from abstaining that I feel more people need to seriously give it a shot. If it doesnt work out then you know for sure it isnt the cause, and hey we've all done silly things to try and cure our acne. If you would like to give it a shot I've made a list of what to expect, or at least, how my body reacts.

First few days are usually fine, depending how often you typically do it. You will find that your body is in a pattern. If you typically do it on a certain day or a certain time you will have an urge to do so at this time again. I have found it to be on somewhat of a weekly basis, that is, if you do it on monday, next monday you will experience an urge to do so again. On these days wet dreams / erections are also more common. Wet dreams, may cause you to break out, however, they are often less severe. Understand that this is part of the process and dont get down. If going from a daily basis or more often you will likely experience wet dreams, usually once a week during the first two weeks. The first two weeks are the hump period (seriously no pun intended). Some people have stated that waning yourself off is an easier process. If you are getting it off more than once a day, typically you may need to try this. Otherwise once a day or less, I dont recommend this method as I feel it simply prolongs the sucky part. Fight through the first two weeks, keep yourself busy, if you are bored you are 100x more likely to cave. After the two weeks, things get much easier, continue to abstain for about a month. If you see no improvement, you're a lucky SoB, so what are you waiting for get at it. Oh, and if you mess up, dont beat yourself up, but the process will start over, likely with less severe urges, however.

Anyway, this is what I've experienced. If it can help one person it was worth typing up.


Thanks for everyone's comments, Ill be sure to try the sun exposure theory next time around!


Best of luck

Switch

By the way, I've been asked if I am at all religious, haha, the answer is no. I've just found that my acne is significantly better if I dont masturbate.


Edited by switch124, 28 July 2011 - 09:49 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2011 - 11:31 PM

It all comes back to the gut people. Years of research...all the BS out there...and it all comes back to the gut. Just discovered that there are estrogen and progesterone receptors in gut. If I already have digestive issues its likely that they are influenced by hormones due to the receptors. Still trying to find a definite answer and a solution...

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:58 AM

I don't know about this one, guys.

After I masturbate I am glowing! (Sex gets your blood circulation flowing and ups the oxygen levels in your system making your skin look brighter.)

And what about stress... Stress causes acne and having an orgasm reduces stress so less stress=less acne?

Sorry, can't agree with y'all on this one!

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

I don't know what kind of lifeless sex you guys have, but it's not necessarily accurate to say sex and masturbation are the same thing. One involves a lot more movement and using muscles and the other one...well, your biceps sort of get a mild workout I guess.



I don't know about this one, guys.

After I masturbate I am glowing! (Sex gets your blood circulation flowing and ups the oxygen levels in your system making your skin look brighter.)

And what about stress... Stress causes acne and having an orgasm reduces stress so less stress=less acne?

Sorry, can't agree with y'all on this one!


There's more to acne than stress or blood circulation

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 02:09 PM

Sex and masturbation are absolutely not the same thing... Sex stimulates the brain far greater than masturbation - knocking one out is more about release - but sex activates all sorts of other pathways and anti stress hormones. Tell me do you feel the same after wacking off (mentally and physicall?) than after some well enjoyed intercourse (or as you brits say -- raking the leaves??). I find I have complete lasting euphoria, followed by hunger, and finally sleep.

I am strictly referring to guys - not sure about the ladies - how hormones fluctuate after release.

Edited by moonbase, 06 November 2011 - 02:11 PM.