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Best Answer alternativista, 04 July 2011 - 10:04 AM

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Anyway, You should see the response I got from Senator Cornyn. You can't even tell what it's about. Just a bunch of Republican party line BS about spending and deficits.

Both my senators supported continuing subsidizing Big Oil. You can bet they'll keep subsidizing 'big food.'
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:33 PM

Michael Pollan has a new book out, the gist of which, as he said in a recent Stephen Colbert interview, is that the biggest factor in the health of your diet is who cooks your food, a corporation or a person you know.  

 

Just stay away from the chemical-filled ultra-processed crap imitation food from Nabisco, General Mills, Nestle, Hershey, Kraft, pepsi, coke, hormel, tyson, conAgra,  And big chain restaurants.   If it's advertized on TV you probably don't want to eat it.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 03:40 PM

So, several things.

 

1) Doctor oz' claims that  organic food was no better or not worth the cost.  I paid no attention when he said this, figuring so yeah, he's a toy, as others have said here on this forum.  So I had no idea just how stupid some of his statements were.  But be sure to check out the Coral's video --a  little girl who made a rebuttal to many of the stupid claims about elitism and cost.  Apparently one of  his claims was that canned beans are cheaper than cooking dried beans, which is ridiculous. And his math included paying for someone for all the hours it takes to soak then cook the beans.  Which of course, no one watches beans soak. And the cost of our food doesn't involve paying ourselves to do the cooking.  Google coralganics or Dr Oz gets schooled by a little girl or something like that.

 

2) Hungary, one of the European countries that ban GMO crops is seeking out and burning fields found to be contaminated.  http://www.realfarma...CZDqO4tAXCeZ.01

 

3) Obama proposed changes to the Food for Peace food aid program in which instead of our Government paying top dollar to big American Ag corporations we instead spend much less money to improve the  ability of farmers around to produce food locally and make a living.   One the problems with the old way was that dumping all that American grain on the country impeded the locals ability to make a living as farmers.  Also, big ag takes over land to grow big ag commercial crops that are often not food  or don't provide  for local needs like coffee, cacao, cotton.  http://www.care2.com/causes/peace-begins-when-the-hungry-can-feed-themselves.html   The problem with hunger has nothing to do with the amount of crops grown.



And read about the amount of arsenic you consume when you eat commercial CAFO non-organic chicken:

 

http://www.care2.com...ng-arsenic.html

 

This is from a 2006 study of chicken parts, but it's surprising that Trader Joe's chicken contained surprisingly high amounts and Tysons' is surprisingly low.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:43 PM

This is important!!

 

So, apparently there's a new Free Trade Agreement in the works. A Pan-Pacific Partnership agreement that includes 11 countries, many of which currently ban GMO products or require labeling.  These agreements tend to include agreements to prohibit any legislation in any member country that might harm big food's profits.  Such as those GMO bans and labeling that might hurt poor Monsanto.

 

And the contents of the agreement are being kept secret. Even your congresman that will vote on it isn't allowed to read it. Not that they read the bils anyway.

 

http://www.nationofc...anto-1372074730

 

Notice the description of what happened to Mexican corn farmers after NAFTA.  Millions of farmers went bankrupt and Mexico now imports half the corn they consume. And this is the birthplace of corn. They have been growing hundreds of varieties for thousands of years.

 

The free trade agreement is also a major reason Port au Prince was so overpopulated and filled with unsafe housing. Farmers couldn't compete with subsidized imports and moved to the city to look for work.   These agreements do not benefit anyone except the few who benefit from big corporate profits.


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 07:20 AM

On NPR this morning they reported that a larvae that eats the roots of corn has grown resistance to the BT toxin in Monsantos GM BT corn. So now farmers are dumping pesticides on the already pesticide filled corn. The EPA is 'concerned.'

Also, reported on Fox News, intestinal damage is being found in livestock fed BT corn. how did Monsanto let that news get out?
http://articles.merc...gmo-safety.aspx

 

Seriously! on Fox News!!!


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

Two congressmen that earn millions in farm subsidies (for growing bad food, because that's what we subsidize) while voting against food stamps for low income 'takers' which is part of the farm bill.  Yes, it is an anti-Republican article on an anti-Republican site.  It's possible there are Democrats too, but unlikely. There aren't many that would vote against aid programs like this.

 

http://www.dailykos....es?detail=email

 

The most outstanding hypocrite hitting the lowest low, of course, is Tennessee Rep. Stephen Fincher, who's gotten $3.5 million in subsidies over the years, but is on a pseudo-biblical crusade against SNAP—a program 22 percent of the people in his home county rely on. But he has company in his "farm bill money for me but not for thee" voting record, including California's Rep. Doug LaMalfa, who's gotten $1.7 million in farm subsidies.


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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:55 AM

the amount of allowable glyphosate in oilseed crops including flax, soybeans, and canola, will be increased from 20 parts per million (ppm) to 40 ppmover 100,000 times the amount needed to induce breast cancer cells. But they aren’t stopping there. The EPA is also increasing limits on allowable glyphosate in food crops, from 200 ppm to 6,000 ppm.

 

The EPA made this announcement on May 1 and gave until July 1 for people to weigh in with objections and requests for hearings. According to Regulations.gov, where announcements like this are shared, it was done to allow you a “voice in federal decision-making”. Unfortunately, they didn’t exactly shout this decision from the rooftops, and now that July is drawing to a close and the deadline for objections is long-passed, people are finally catching wind.

 

http://www.nationofc...rops-1374673195



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 07:36 PM

the amount of allowable glyphosate in oilseed crops including flax, soybeans, and canola, will be increased from 20 parts per million (ppm) to 40 ppmover 100,000 times the amount needed to induce breast cancer cells. But they aren’t stopping there. The EPA is also increasing limits on allowable glyphosate in food crops, from 200 ppm to 6,000 ppm.

 

The EPA made this announcement on May 1 and gave until July 1 for people to weigh in with objections and requests for hearings. According to Regulations.gov, where announcements like this are shared, it was done to allow you a “voice in federal decision-making”. Unfortunately, they didn’t exactly shout this decision from the rooftops, and now that July is drawing to a close and the deadline for objections is long-passed, people are finally catching wind.

 

http://www.nationofc...rops-1374673195

 

Why.  Just...why.  eusa_wall.gif



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:44 AM

Here's a chance to have your voice heard regarding the secret deals going on behind closed doors that are protecting Monsanto and GMOs.  Takes 30 seconds to do if it interests you

 

http://action.foodde...p5YYR_&rd=1&t=7



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:35 PM

US FDA finds arsenic in all our rice.

 

http://inhabitat.com...based-products/


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:00 AM

The U. S. government is at it again, "protecting you" from healthy, local food from small producers by imposing rules impossible for small producers to afford but easy for the giant producers of the crap that's been making us all sick and practitioners of other industrial practices that deplete the soils and ruin our water ways and produce nutrionally void antibiotic & pesticide ridden food.

 

"Love your local farms, farmers markets and CSAs (Community Supported Agriculture)? They could be in trouble thanks to burdensome new rules proposed under the Food Safety & Modernization Act (FSMA)." 

 

Link to petition to the FDA and summary of some of the acts proposals.  The FDA is accepting feedback until November 15.  Do it now.



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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:53 PM

You have one day left to  tell the FDA what you think of their proposed new Food Safety regulations that will harm small farm, local, organic & naturally raised food.  They add expense small farmers won't be able to meet. And are incompatible with natural, permaculture practices and diversified polyculture farms. The kind we need more of.

 

Read about it here:

 

http://www.youngfarm...eriod-one-week/

 

Amongst the rules include regulations to keep pastured animals away from plants:

  • A nine-month interval between animal grazing and vegetable production would mean you can’t rotate animals and crops in a given year, even to bring pastured chickens in to clean up a field.
  • The complete incompatibility between the new rules and existing compost waiting periods in organic production (a 45-day waiting period on using compost could mean no compost on short-season greens like mesclun, not to mention no more side-dressing your plants within a month and a half of harvesting!)


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

About CAFO eggs vs eggs from pastured hens:

 

http://articles.merc...t_rid=397297411

 

2/3 more vitamin A 3 times more vitamin E 2 times more omega-3 fatty acids 7 times more beta carotene.

 

and it looks like twice as K2 according to the chart of K2 sources showing a difference between an egg from the U.S. and an egg from the Netherlands. Presumable the egg from the U.S. is an ordinary one like  you find in the supermarket for a $1 or so per dozen, which means CAFO and not fed it's natural diet which would include insects, worms, other small prey, and greens.  K1 comes from greens. Then is converted to K2 by bacteria in the intestines. So the animal also needs healthy gut flora.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:21 AM

This article about how the toxic glyphosate accumulates in Roundupready Genetically Modified soybeans sites a European study on the nutritional content of Organic, conventional, & genetically modified soybeans grown in Iowa.  Amongst the superior nutritional content of they organic soybeans, they found organically grown soybeans had a better lipid profile with less Omega 6 EFAs!

 

http://www.greenmedi...1e280e-86969685

 

 



 


The new manuscript titled, "Compositional differences in soybeans on the market: Glyphosate accumulates in Roundup Ready GM soybeans,"[i] was submitted by a team of researchers from Norway and the United Kingdom who explored the compositional differences of 31 soybean batches from Iowa, USA, which consisted of three different types:

  1. Genetically modified, glyphosate-tolerant soy (GM-soy);
  2. Unmodified soy cultivated using a conventional "chemical" cultivation regime;
  3. Unmodified soy cultivated using an organic cultivation regime.

Their analysis revealed the following discoveries:

  • "Organic soybeans showed the healthiest nutritional profile with more sugars, such as glucose, fructose, sucrose and maltose, significantly more total protein, zinc and less fibre than both conventional and GM-soy."
  •  "Organic soybeans also contained less total saturated fat and total omega-6 fatty acids than both conventional and GM-soy."
  • "GM-soy contained high residues of glyphosate and AMPA (mean 3.3 and 5.7mg/kg, respectively). Conventional and organic soybean batches contained none of these agrochemicals."

 

 

 

These Roundup Ready genetically modified foods were not created to feed more people, to produce higher yields, to need less water, etc.  They were created to sell more Roundup!   It's chemical companies doing this to sell more chemicals.  Don't play along. 

 

The best & easiest way to avoid genetically modified foods is to buy from small, local organic farmers.  Small farms & growing a variety of real food everywhere is the way to feed the world. 


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 11:49 AM

Note the chart showing sources of K2 in foods and their amounts.  Note the difference between a Dutch egg & an American one. Presumably an ordinary supermarket egg from CAFO hens.    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_K

 

See the difference!  K2 is made by certain strains of E. Coli bacteria, btw.  And our misguided industries are always  trying to kill E Coli. And the animals make it by converting K1 which you get from greens.  Free roaming, natural diet eating hens eat greens.

 

Dutch study: http://jn.nutrition....34/11/3100.full



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 02:03 PM

There have been no reputable studies to confirm genetically modified food is harmful to humans in any way.

"There is broad scientific consensus that food on the market derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food."

http://en.wikipedia....y_modified_food

I personally choose to rely on the scientific community rather than liberal agenda.

Sigh. I guess people always get scared shitless of things they can't understand.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:33 PM

^Fine You eat all the pesticides you want.   I'll keep trying to avoid them as much as possible.

 

Sigh, some people want to buy whatever is sold to them rather than do some critical thinking. The issue is not that the food has been genetically modified. It's how exactly they modified it.  Some  might be ok.  But the chemical companies either make them more toxic or make them capable of withstanding more toxins dumped on them and in the soil. It's the pesticides that end up in the food.

 

And then there's the issues with the environment, the royalties & copyrights, bullying, the lawsuits, the contamination of other corps and the monopoly of our food supply.  Our media never reports on any of this.  Sarah Palin is right about one thing. We do have a lamestream media.

 

Our food has become so industrialized and our agencies that are supposed to protect us are servants for the industry and are completely unreliable,  I chose to rely on the European scientific community.  As far as I am concerned, European University & hospital research is reputable.  Research by Monsanto & the like owned firms and USDA, FDA, EPA is not. Especially considering the number of former Monsanto people that fill the FDA.

 

(Anyone know why I can't reply to posts? I click on quote, but nothing happens. I wanted to reply directly to the above poster.)


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 06:16 PM

So, the Farm Bill has passed the senate and been sent to the President. Many farm & farmer groups I follow are declaring a victory because it does have some improvements for them. Or at least, didn't worsen prior regulations that harm small farmers growing vegetables & raising pastured animals.

 

But Center for Rural Affairs seems to have a more honest assessment;


What a roller coaster this farm bill has been! Yesterday, the Senate passed the final version of the bill, and it’s on it’s way to the President’s desk. Click here to see how your senators voted!

 

If signed into law (which is expected), we’ll be sending out a longer analysis next week. As a snapshot, here are some of the things this bill does:

  • Conservation - A mixed bag, the bill includes “conservation compliance”, which requires farmers receiving crop insurance premium subsidies to provide a minimum level of  conservation; Sodsaver in 6 states; and cuts $4 billion from conservation programs, including limiting the Conservation Stewardship Program to 10 million new acres per year (a cut of 22%).
  • Subsidy Reform - In a huge blow, the final bill cut historic reforms to commodity program subsidies that had passed in both chambers of Congress. They actually increased the limit, and they cut “actively engaged” language, which would close the loopholes that allow large, wealthy farms to collect many multiples of the current payment limit.
  • Rural Development - Though funding for rural programs is dangerously low, the bill includes funding for two of our high priority program - the Value Added Producer Grant program and the Rural Microentrepreneur Assistance program.
  • Beginning Farmers and Ranchers - There is continued funding for training and mentoring for beginning farmers and ranchers, with a new emphasis on veteran farmers.

 

Note they are still giving massive subsidies to wealthy large farmers growing the foods that make us sick.  And of course, they cut Food Aid to all the 'takers.' Cuz that help feeding their kids has been keeping them from going to work, of course.


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Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:56 AM

"Sigh. I guess people always get scared shitless of things they can't understand."  ...or things they aren't willing to learn about as in your case, lifelong confusion

 

"Research by Monsanto & the like owned firms and USDA, FDA, EPA is not. Especially considering the number of former Monsanto people that fill the FDA."  -alternativista

 

^

This is what you need to understand my friend.  And you understand this by digging deep into these issues looking at both sides, watching independent documentaries, seeing the revolving door of Monsanto/FDA employees, etc.  Hell even looking at the world around you and how farmers and the environment are being affected by GMO's negatively will give you an idea of the damage being done here.  The corruption in these companies goes so deep and reaches so many innocent people



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 02:06 PM

The FDA is planning to basically ban most true organic farming practices involving things like compost & manure.   This is going to make it impossible for small farmers using natural, sustainable processes.  There will only be "Big Ag" organic which is absolutely not the same thing and allows pesticides and practices that are sometimes even worse than conventional farming practices. And Big Ag is where the contamination risks occur due to their unhealthy, unnatural practices.     http://www.offthegri...rganic-farming/

 

The restrictions placed on compost would be so severe that it amounts to a ban. Organic farms that have livestock in close proximity to their crops also would find it difficult to clear government rules. Additionally, organic farms that use surface water would be forced to test their water regularly. All total, it could add up to many organic farms simply closing, unable to grow crops naturally or unable to afford the cost.  It’s all part of the FDA’s food safety proposals that impact all farms – not just organic. But it’s the organic farms that will be hit hardest. Congress handed FDA the power in 2010 to regulate farms.

The single biggest issue is the mandatory waiting period in between application and harvesting the crops. For “untreated” amendments – which include not only manure, but also worm compost, compost teas with any additives, and any compost that doesn’t meet FDA’s specific standards – there is a 9-month waiting period. This makes these valuable soil amendments essentially unusable. Even fully treated compost would require a 45-day waiting period, limiting its usefulness.

These waiting periods are simply not needed. Organic farmers have been using both manure and compost for centuries, with excellent results. The certified organic standards have no waiting period on the use of compost, and only a 90-day to 120-day waiting period on the use of raw manure; and there have been no reported outbreaks from these practices. The FDA’s proposal would destroy one of the core tools for sustainable food production, for no good reason.

 

 

The soil is supposed to be alive, people!

 

And that's not all. Also covered in the article are rules for water not obtained from a municipal water supply. Basically will require them to pay the city to use chlorinated & flourinated city water on the soil/our food.



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Posted 21 May 2014 - 02:31 PM

http://www.nytimes.c...&pgtype=article

 

 

An Inconvenient Truth About Our Food

 

MAY 13, 2014
 

“Fed Up” is probably the most important movie to be made since “An Inconvenient Truth,” to which it’s related in a couple of ways.  One of its producers is Laurie David, who also produced “An Inconvenient Truth.” Climate change, diet and agriculture are inexorably intertwined; we can’t tackle climate change without changing industrial agriculture, and we can’t change industrial agriculture without tackling diet.

 

Like “An Inconvenient Truth,” too, “Fed Up” can be seen as propaganda. (As can “Farmland,” the beautifully shot movie that looks and feels like a Chevy commercial and seems to take as its underlying premise that most Americans mistrust, even hate, farmers. It’s more than a little defensive.)

 

“Fed Up” says: “Here is a problem, a problem that vested interests have no interest in solving, and a problem that must be dealt with if we’re interested in our survival. It’s something worth fighting about.”

 

The problem at hand, of course, is the standard American diet, especially in its current iteration, which took shape in the early 1980s after the commencement of the official “eat food lower in fat” recommendations. Those recommendations led to a 25 percent increase in the per-capita supply (and indeed consumption) of

calories.  Many of those calories were from sugar,...

Yes, it’s fair to say, as Michael Pollan says in the movie, that “the government is subsidizing the obesity epidemic.”


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