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Posted 23 April 2014 - 12:39 PM

I bought the oil from zadevital.com (you can choose EN for english version) . The oil is made by cold press. I can not get cannabis it is not legal here. (Turkey). I will keep trting the oil.

 
That's not the same stuff, you need to be taking proper cannabis oil which is completely different, and much much stronger than dietry oils. I dont think you'll get any effect from that, but there's probably no harm in trying.
I've tried various hemp oil's such as Cibdex, medi wedt oil, RSHO oil but none of them had any effect at all, yet after vaping proper cannabis I experienced glimses of normal functioning.
 
Legality is obviously an issue in most places unfortunately, but with the climate in Turkey outdoor grows are probably quite viable. It might be worth looking into.
Well I didnt know that it was dietry oil and has versions.. : ( Yes the climate is good but in a city with 20 million people (ıstanbul) it is not possible to find any kind of natural grows/plant outside :(

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Posted 23 April 2014 - 02:23 PM

I am in the same situation as many in this thread. 8 years after accutane, I am still suffering from a lot of side effects. Nothing I want more to de-accutane my body and get rid of these.

 

I have only read through the first 5 pages, but have anyone had any success with getting rid of these side effects? de-accutane your body?



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:00 PM

I am in the same situation as many in this thread. 8 years after accutane, I am still suffering from a lot of side effects. Nothing I want more to de-accutane my body and get rid of these.

 

I have only read through the first 5 pages, but have anyone had any success with getting rid of these side effects? de-accutane your body?

 

Hi Daniel, it's worth reading from page 200 onwards on this thread, but in summary the only things people found to be really worthwhile are cannabis (specifically cannabis oil) and maybe to a lesser extent strict diets (paleo) and/or extended fasting (water/juice). You'll get more information reading page 200 onwards.



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:25 PM

Thanks.

 

I will go back to page 200 and read forward.

 

Can you buy cannabis oil from amazon? 



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Posted 23 April 2014 - 03:45 PM

Can you buy cannabis oil from amazon? 

 

Er, nope. Unfortunately it's illegal almost everywhere, bar some US states, parts of South America and a few other regions. More and more places are considering legalising use for medicinal purposes as the evidence of the medicinal benefits of this continues to mount however. 



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:02 AM

I am in the same situation as many in this thread. 8 years after accutane, I am still suffering from a lot of side effects. Nothing I want more to de-accutane my body and get rid of these.
 
I have only read through the first 5 pages, but have anyone had any success with getting rid of these side effects? de-accutane your body?

Daniel80, can you please tell us your side effects? 8 years is long time, you should have progressed some improvements by time? Have you?

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:58 AM

@Crank92

One question in regards of sprinting..

I usually do 15 to 20 set of 6-8 second burst sprint.. Should i rest between each sprint for a some seconds? or just walking back is enough?

I usually sprint walk back and then i start my next sprint i think is ok ish't it matE?

I dont think that only squats and deadlift help but also overhead press, bench press, rows, weightened muscle ups/weightened Chin/pull ups .


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 05:45 AM

***** RECOVERY STORY *****

I've got permission to post this story that I had in my inbox the other day. The individual wishes to remain anonymous and thus any speculations to who it is I will neither confirm or deny. However, take it for what it is - good f**king news;

Thanks alot man I appreciate it! I owe my life to this plant which is why I now dedicate my life to spreading the knowledge of this amazing medicine. I never expected any of this. To take it back to the start I was *** years old I Was literally the epitome of an athlete and health (sexually included)quite like yourself as I saw you mentioned. The death pill accutane turned me into what I could only expect it would be like at 80+ years old, after 6 months of 40mg per day...if I remember correctly 1 poison pill a day. Still remember near the end of the death treatment I found one of those pills crushed with a sickly orange goo coming out. Later to find out this poison is chemotherapy originally designed for brain cancer, which I now know is a whole other fraud just like most of the 'medical system', but that's another topic. Back to the point. I remember in the summer of 2010 when I was a month or two into the poison I suddenly released my erections were becoming extremely weak and my feelings were slowly dying. I didn't understand what was going on I was only focused on getting rid of the acne. Time went on and I got worse and worse thinking it was only temporary. Never could i have  imagined what these criminals had put me on for acne. By the end of the poison I pretty much felt dead. Extreme fatigue, extreme brain fog I could not think normally, could barely make sense out of regular things, at this point I was completely impotent with no more feeling sexually or in my body. Complete loss of sexual function. No erections, no libido, no sexual thoughts or attraction to females at all. Emotionally dead. My joints in my legs ached bad and made cracking sounds when I would move them. My eyes were red and dry and I had horrible night vision I couldn't see outside at night even though I always had been able to in the past. My lips had  a big split top and bottom from being so dry and cracked. They would split and bleed daily. I still have the scar lines from it. Basically the poison made me feel like I was no longer human. I don't know if I am forgetting anything but I think that about covers it. It was around 2 years until i really began cannabis treatment. I was feeling worse and worse no improvement at all to the point i was basically bed ridden with no hope. I eventually started off vaping and over the course of a few weeks my brain fog finally was clearing and I was getting some erections and feeling which was very exciting, but it wasnt always too consistent. The reason being i believe is the amount is very little being consumed compared to an oil tolerance. Also i feel that vaping/smoking is very mental so I believe most of the cannabinoids go to the lungs/brain rather than the whole body compared to ingesting oil. But it certainly began to clear up my mind. I began using RSO months later I believe a bit more than 1 1/2 years ago. Within the first few days i knew this was it. I took it very slowly and only increased my dose as I was comfortable but within a few weeks I was beginning to really feel the true healing power. I was feeling alive with energy each morning and I finally began getting more erections. My mind was clearing up even more and feeling and emotion was returning. This is dated around a month or so. I no longer had joint pain and my night vision had returned.I continually increased dosage and I continued to feel even better and better. Every symptom just continued to feel better by the day. Erections and feeling continued to improve as did my energy and mind. Another thing that I think helped a lot is a few times a week i would mix some rso with coconut oil and put it in a condom and wear it. By this time it was around 3 months into treatment. I estimate I consumed around 50 grams of oil or about 12 ounces of bud. At that point I felt completely cured and back to normal. I continued to ingest the oil and continued to feel great. I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day. This oil is truly amazing. Throughout the course I didn't write down dates or measurements so it is mostly estimated. I continually listened to my body And feeling as I went along. That is the most important thing to remember on the oil. Take it slowly and build a tolerance. Once your tolerance is high after a few weeks or months the healing really begins. Start very small and give yourself time to build tolerance. 1/2 rice grain every 8 hours rick Simpson recommends, doubling dosage every 4 days. I started a bit slower but eventually built it up. We all have different tolerances and healing rates so always go at your own comfortable pace. It is important to use indica or indica dominant strains because they provide the best healing and rest. Many people have schedules so if you can only use at night before bed that's still okay. Sativas are not good because they are very mentally energizing and not suitable for healing the way indicas are. Some indica dominant strains have a bit of sativa enough to make a nice balance, but you are looking for potent sedative strains that make you want to sleep. These are the real healers. A few strains I used were afghan kush(indica), northern lights(indica), grand daddy purp(indica), white widow(indica dom), skunk #1 (hybrid). The indicas are definitely best but the hybrids were good to add in the mix for some euphoric good feeling. The best oils are a mix of strains which is what I did. Don't worry about cbd, simply shoot for potent sedative indicas and you will be good. I did not grow the bud I used for these oils, but I have knowledge on growing if you are looking for help. Growing certainly solves many issues in finding this medicine but sadly it is a risk as we know right now. I hope this was detailed enough to be useful and will certainly answer any further questions you may have. I apologize if there isnt a lot of detail but over my course of helping I didn't keep track of much besides how I felt and continued to improve over time. I would love to add more detail but I have been typing for about 2 hours now on my phone because I don't have a computer at the moment. I can't think of much else off the top of my head but Im more than happy to continue to chat and answer questions or help in any way I can. P.s. I tried finding a lawyer for class action lawsuit about 2 years ago by no one would take on the case unless symptoms included IBS or a few others... thats the corrupt system for us. I don't have money for a lawyer so I don't know how realistic suing actually is for me but I am still trying to collect info in the meantime. Very happy to talk to you as well man it's been an unfortunate part of our life but there is certainly a bright future ahead!"



That is very positive news if you ask me! But again due to this individual wishing to remain anonymous I would rather individuals not publicly speculate as to who this individual is on public threads.



@Crank92

One question in regards of sprinting..

I usually do 15 to 20 set of 6-8 second burst sprint.. Should i rest between each sprint for a some seconds? or just walking back is enough?

I usually sprint walk back and then i start my next sprint i think is ok ish't it matE?

I dont think that only squats and deadlift help but also overhead press, bench press, rows, weightened muscle ups/weightened Chin/pull ups .


Yup that sounds fine, as long as you feel you can put maximal effort into each one you'll be getting a solid hormonal cascade going!
All good exercises, but no other exercise apart from squats and deadlifts have been shown to alter testosterone on their own as part of a low rep program. This includes bench press and pull ups. However, I would imagine that a full body session as opposed to body part split protocols would lead to a higher anabolic response in total.

I think in regards to getting the most out of your program hormonally is to either make sessions into an 'all-in-one' style or have each kind of session on a weekly basis e.g. 1 strength session (low reps, long rest), 1 hypertrophy session (moderate reps, moderate rest), 1 lactic acid session (most crossfit workouts - type 'Fran Crossfit' for a savage workout that takes less than 10 minutes for example).


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 08:05 AM

Thank you kindly Crank92! That really cleared things up! smile.png

Sorry for any spelling mistake and for asking too many things! but iam not aware of these things as iam quite a beginner in this field! biggrin.png

have a good one pal


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 09:43 AM

Hallo people, I am one of the "lucky" guys unfortunatelly. After 2months with 40mg/day accutane (zoretanin), I experienced a sudden ED.  After 10 days, everything went back to normal, then second crash again impotence. After 10 or so days later again things got better.Now; I sometimes have morning erections, weak hardness, mostly zero libido, back pain and ringing in the ears.I realised I feel normal when I eat. I mean I eat everything (health foods+fast food, chocalate, coffee.. No diet). Something I get from this bulk food, it helps, dont know what it is yet. And normal life, support of my gf and funny office (luckly me) helps my recovery I think. I did the blood test, do you notice any anormalities? DHT test will take some time, I will post it also here.Age 34 MaleLH 3,97 mIU/ml   Ref: 1,2 - 7,8FSH 1,79 mIU/ml Ref: 1.37 - 13.58Prolaktin SI 11.78 ng/ml Ref: 1.89 - 21.24Estradiol E2 SI 28 pg/ml Ref: 11 - 44Progesteron SI 0.77 ng/ml Ref: 0.2 - 1.40Testosteron Total SI 23.42 nmol/L Ref: 4.86 - 32.27Testosteron Free SI 59.34 pmol/L  Ref: 30.19 - 104.10SHBG 22.80 nmol/L Ref: 14.5 - 48.40 DHT - not ready yet. After the blood test I started cannabis oil, it is my 3th day. I havent noticed anything special yet.

DHT 341pg/ml Ref: 250 - 1000
This seems a little bit low but within the ref values.
Why the hell do I have back pain, ringing in the air, ED??
I gotta find a real cannabis seed oil..

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:34 AM

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also. 

 

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

 

Be Well everybody !



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    I've recovered fully I believe from the emotional blunting and fatigue. The gastric issues are continuing to improve with the SCD diet. The sexual dysfunction and associated ED is improved with cannabis therapy (read from page 200 onwards for plausible biological mechanisms). The genital numbness persists, for now.

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 10:47 AM

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also. 

 

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

 

Be Well everybody !


I'll shoot them a message about that, it's a good question!

Yes Otto! That's great news, I hope for all our sakes you see great results!

EDIT: 1 thing of note is apparently cannabis shows some good anti-acne properties. I've got to say my skin is looking better since I started vaping. But then again I'm also using the whole of Dan's kit from this website. So perhaps cannabis in itself can cause acne remission. That being said I don't think this individual is still using RSO so shall see what response I get.

EDIT part II: Just spotted from re-reading the recovery story;

 "I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day."

So therefore they are still using RSO on a regular basis. I presume as he follows Rick Simpsons methods, he will be taking 1 dose per month now. As that is what Rick promotes.


Edited by Crank92, 24 April 2014 - 10:56 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 11:12 AM

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also. 

 

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

 

Be Well everybody !


I'll shoot them a message about that, it's a good question!

Yes Otto! That's great news, I hope for all our sakes you see great results!

EDIT: 1 thing of note is apparently cannabis shows some good anti-acne properties. I've got to say my skin is looking better since I started vaping. But then again I'm also using the whole of Dan's kit from this website. So perhaps cannabis in itself can cause acne remission. That being said I don't think this individual is still using RSO so shall see what response I get.

EDIT part II: Just spotted from re-reading the recovery story;

 "I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day."

So therefore they are still using RSO on a regular basis. I presume as he follows Rick Simpsons methods, he will be taking 1 dose per month now. As that is what Rick promotes.

 

Don't know if you already asked, but could you also ask if he suffered from hair-loss. He didn't mentioned it but it's worth a try ?



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 12:21 PM

CBD could possibly be a cure for pimples ha ... who would have thought after all nature holds all the keys to good health contrary to popular believe a.k.a big pHARMa. and the general sheeply / brainwashed  public.....  I have no doubt in my mind it's the best treatment for Accutainted  victims with or without THC content some prefer not to use the THC version some do .... Vaping  is another option I have not tried myself. I'm still waiting for my CBD drops ( non THC ) to arrive in the mail I am optimistic in trying it and getting good results.

 

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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:13 PM

Pimple management  =  Healthy life style with natural circadian cycle , stress management , physical activity and nutrient dense anti-inflammatory  blood sugar stabilizing  diet that don't include anything you have an intolerance to NO TOXIC DRUGS NEEDED.


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 01:50 PM

I am in the same situation as many in this thread. 8 years after accutane, I am still suffering from a lot of side effects. Nothing I want more to de-accutane my body and get rid of these.
 
I have only read through the first 5 pages, but have anyone had any success with getting rid of these side effects? de-accutane your body?

Daniel80, can you please tell us your side effects? 8 years is long time, you should have progressed some improvements by time? Have you?

Becides very dry eyes, nose and lips, I also get lumps in my skin from time to time. They always come around my chin in my face. They don't hurt, but definately don't feel good to get them. I also have a lower sexsual function than before.

And my skin is just very, very fragile and un-stabil. Two days are nok alike. I suffer easily from infection/irritation. I also have a bad short term memory and several mental issues. Anxiety being the worst



Crank92 in his post mentioned something called "RSO". What is this?



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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:27 PM

***** RECOVERY STORY *****

I've got permission to post this story that I had in my inbox the other day. The individual wishes to remain anonymous and thus any speculations to who it is I will neither confirm or deny. However, take it for what it is - good f**king news;

Thanks alot man I appreciate it! I owe my life to this plant which is why I now dedicate my life to spreading the knowledge of this amazing medicine. I never expected any of this. To take it back to the start I was *** years old I Was literally the epitome of an athlete and health (sexually included)quite like yourself as I saw you mentioned. The death pill accutane turned me into what I could only expect it would be like at 80+ years old, after 6 months of 40mg per day...if I remember correctly 1 poison pill a day. Still remember near the end of the death treatment I found one of those pills crushed with a sickly orange goo coming out. Later to find out this poison is chemotherapy originally designed for brain cancer, which I now know is a whole other fraud just like most of the 'medical system', but that's another topic. Back to the point. I remember in the summer of 2010 when I was a month or two into the poison I suddenly released my erections were becoming extremely weak and my feelings were slowly dying. I didn't understand what was going on I was only focused on getting rid of the acne. Time went on and I got worse and worse thinking it was only temporary. Never could i have  imagined what these criminals had put me on for acne. By the end of the poison I pretty much felt dead. Extreme fatigue, extreme brain fog I could not think normally, could barely make sense out of regular things, at this point I was completely impotent with no more feeling sexually or in my body. Complete loss of sexual function. No erections, no libido, no sexual thoughts or attraction to females at all. Emotionally dead. My joints in my legs ached bad and made cracking sounds when I would move them. My eyes were red and dry and I had horrible night vision I couldn't see outside at night even though I always had been able to in the past. My lips had  a big split top and bottom from being so dry and cracked. They would split and bleed daily. I still have the scar lines from it. Basically the poison made me feel like I was no longer human. I don't know if I am forgetting anything but I think that about covers it. It was around 2 years until i really began cannabis treatment. I was feeling worse and worse no improvement at all to the point i was basically bed ridden with no hope. I eventually started off vaping and over the course of a few weeks my brain fog finally was clearing and I was getting some erections and feeling which was very exciting, but it wasnt always too consistent. The reason being i believe is the amount is very little being consumed compared to an oil tolerance. Also i feel that vaping/smoking is very mental so I believe most of the cannabinoids go to the lungs/brain rather than the whole body compared to ingesting oil. But it certainly began to clear up my mind. I began using RSO months later I believe a bit more than 1 1/2 years ago. Within the first few days i knew this was it. I took it very slowly and only increased my dose as I was comfortable but within a few weeks I was beginning to really feel the true healing power. I was feeling alive with energy each morning and I finally began getting more erections. My mind was clearing up even more and feeling and emotion was returning. This is dated around a month or so. I no longer had joint pain and my night vision had returned.I continually increased dosage and I continued to feel even better and better. Every symptom just continued to feel better by the day. Erections and feeling continued to improve as did my energy and mind. Another thing that I think helped a lot is a few times a week i would mix some rso with coconut oil and put it in a condom and wear it. By this time it was around 3 months into treatment. I estimate I consumed around 50 grams of oil or about 12 ounces of bud. At that point I felt completely cured and back to normal. I continued to ingest the oil and continued to feel great. I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day. This oil is truly amazing. Throughout the course I didn't write down dates or measurements so it is mostly estimated. I continually listened to my body And feeling as I went along. That is the most important thing to remember on the oil. Take it slowly and build a tolerance. Once your tolerance is high after a few weeks or months the healing really begins. Start very small and give yourself time to build tolerance. 1/2 rice grain every 8 hours rick Simpson recommends, doubling dosage every 4 days. I started a bit slower but eventually built it up. We all have different tolerances and healing rates so always go at your own comfortable pace. It is important to use indica or indica dominant strains because they provide the best healing and rest. Many people have schedules so if you can only use at night before bed that's still okay. Sativas are not good because they are very mentally energizing and not suitable for healing the way indicas are. Some indica dominant strains have a bit of sativa enough to make a nice balance, but you are looking for potent sedative strains that make you want to sleep. These are the real healers. A few strains I used were afghan kush(indica), northern lights(indica), grand daddy purp(indica), white widow(indica dom), skunk #1 (hybrid). The indicas are definitely best but the hybrids were good to add in the mix for some euphoric good feeling. The best oils are a mix of strains which is what I did. Don't worry about cbd, simply shoot for potent sedative indicas and you will be good. I did not grow the bud I used for these oils, but I have knowledge on growing if you are looking for help. Growing certainly solves many issues in finding this medicine but sadly it is a risk as we know right now. I hope this was detailed enough to be useful and will certainly answer any further questions you may have. I apologize if there isnt a lot of detail but over my course of helping I didn't keep track of much besides how I felt and continued to improve over time. I would love to add more detail but I have been typing for about 2 hours now on my phone because I don't have a computer at the moment. I can't think of much else off the top of my head but Im more than happy to continue to chat and answer questions or help in any way I can. P.s. I tried finding a lawyer for class action lawsuit about 2 years ago by no one would take on the case unless symptoms included IBS or a few others... thats the corrupt system for us. I don't have money for a lawyer so I don't know how realistic suing actually is for me but I am still trying to collect info in the meantime. Very happy to talk to you as well man it's been an unfortunate part of our life but there is certainly a bright future ahead!"
 

 

Hey Crank,

 

I appreciate you sharing this it is absolutely great to hear another person have success with the oil. Just to clarify this is a THIRD person having success with the oil right? It sounds awfully similar to the timeframes given by Accutaneispoison. Just want to make sure it is a different person (obviously if he wants to remain anonymous i don't need his name or anything). Appreciate it man



Crank92 in his post mentioned something called "RSO". What is this?

 

RSO stands for Rick Simpson Oil which is just another term for Cannabis Oil


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Posted 24 April 2014 - 03:36 PM

Yeah RSO , CBD same thing . But to be honest I don't think any of us signed up for this B.S I sure didn't. The drug leaves the system in 2 months yeah...the drug may leave but it also leaves carnage behind. ie definition of carnage     " great and usually bloody slaughter  or injury (as in battle) "    ha... sounds about right.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:45 AM

Does anyone in the UK know where you can get hold of RSO? Fed up of dealing with the side effects now! 



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:26 PM

Does anyone in the UK know where you can get hold of RSO? Fed up of dealing with the side effects now! 

 

I believe there are some conditions such as MS where you might be able to get a perscription for medicinal cannabis in the UK, but for tane sides I think the chances are probably very slim, but may be worth trying anyway.


You really have the choice of either relocating to somewhere where you can obtain it legally (Colorado or California in the States, Netherlands or maybe Germany amongst others), finding it on the black market (I'm sure it's can be bought, but the price would be very high due to the amount of cannabis required to produce it) or making it yourself. Unfortunately the last 2 options would potentially leave you at risk of prosecution.

 

The methods people have been using to recover are following the protocol described on the phoenix tears website.

http://phoenixtears.ca






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