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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

Another accutane-related suicide.

 

I remember when this terrible story came out in 2002 of the boy crashing his plane into the building in Tampa, but had no idea Accutane was behind it.

 

http://web.archive.o...27200794292.htm

Yes, they even tested tissue from his liver to see if there was any residue of Accutane. There was also a nationwide story not to long ago where a boy was on accutane and went crazy and killed his girlfriend. They wouldn't let Dr Bremner or James O'donnell Ph.D testify and then parents were on the Today show and other outlets claiming as they looked back he was controlling!

People just don't get that this drug can cause very very bad things to the brain! Though I have a lot of problems, I sometimes feel lucky that I still have my brain outside of the fog at times.



Robert have you seen a Endocrinologist?



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:58 AM

Rovert it kind of sounds like the inflammatory disease alopecia areata.  Have you tried oregano oil? I get an insanely itchy scalp, itchy skin, and thats the only thing that has eased it a bit. My hair falls out in droves too, both pubic and head hair.



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:13 AM

See Crisler, like I said before Robert.



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:21 AM

Another accutane-related suicide.

 

I remember when this terrible story came out in 2002 of the boy crashing his plane into the building in Tampa, but had no idea Accutane was behind it.

 

http://web.archive.o...27200794292.htm

Yes, they even tested tissue from his liver to see if there was any residue of Accutane. There was also a nationwide story not to long ago where a boy was on accutane and went crazy and killed his girlfriend. They wouldn't let Dr Bremner or James O'donnell Ph.D testify and then parents were on the Today show and other outlets claiming as they looked back he was controlling!

People just don't get that this drug can cause very very bad things to the brain! Though I have a lot of problems, I sometimes feel lucky that I still have my brain outside of the fog at times.



Robert have you seen a Endocrinologist?

Oli girl , brain damage would be considered one on the milder side effects , it's true .

 

When you go to a orthodox doctor they are trained by the pharma rep to NEVER talk about side effects , only talk about benefits for the

 

particular drug being prescribed , so they treat one usually mild problem , let's say acne , and potentially  cause ten other problems you never

 

had hmmm... , sadly that is what happens most of the time. So more drugs are prescribed to treat the new side effects, it's a vicious cycle

 

and the only people that benefit is big pharma not you .

 

 

Orthodox medicine generally treats symptoms , for example you have back pain so they give you pain killers but RARELY to they actually treat

 

the underlying cause of your symptoms , they just mask them , I learned to stay away from them really it's best for me lol....


Edited by gladiatoro, 12 May 2013 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:18 PM

Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

 

Gladiatoro - The brain damage I am speaking of is thoose who committ suicide or become a vegtable or schizophrenia or thoose with some much rage they have snapped and killed ( Hans Peterson killed his derm) induced by Accutane in which it destroyed thier brain! That is not minor by all means!

 

Also, Some of us have to depend on orthodox treament from certian diseases from Accutane. I die if I don't take thyroid meds, by either heartattack from such tchycarida or a coma in about 2wks, As with my autoimmune diabetes I don't take insulin I will be dead in no less then 7 days!  Sjrogren's is mangable with out meds, just a nuisance! Yes, I do a lot of organic eating, and a lot of other things for my thyroid and type 1 diabetes, but I like I said dead if I don't take the meds!

 

Hope any of you that are mothers or have mothers had a wonderful Mother's Day! Hard to believe my daughter just started driving scary biggrin.png

 

Robert- You can have a normal TPO, but still  have abnormal tsh which is usually found in hypothyroid, Also cortisol can be related to adrenal glands! Having High Cortisol directly effects fat storage. low libido in men, leads to breakdown in muscle, testerone is decreased which in turn can cause insulin resistance and I believe it can raise estrogen levels. It can cause digestive issues, sleep issues and soo on.  Cortisol is produced and secreted under the influence of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal gland axis! Many endocrine functioning organs  such as thyroid, adrenals, pancreas etc.. have a strong relationship with the hypothalmus and pituitary! 


Edited by oli girl, 12 May 2013 - 06:34 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:54 PM

Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

Yes, I acknowledged that initially, when I gave the recommendation almost a month ago. He is known for his ‘phone consultations.’ He then gets in contact with your local doctor to take care of the prescriptions. It is not cheap, but it is better than Robert trying to convince a plethora of local docs, who no doubt will not care or act decisively.  As an aside, I am so glad to be finally part of the solution.


Edited by camaroz28, 12 May 2013 - 07:01 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:30 PM

Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

 

Gladiatoro - The brain damage I am speaking of is thoose who committ suicide or become a vegtable or schizophrenia or thoose with some much rage they have snapped and killed ( Hans Peterson killed his derm) induced by Accutane in which it destroyed thier brain! That is not minor by all means!

 

Also, Some of us have to depend on orthodox treament from certain diseases from Accutane. I die if I don't take thyroid meds, by either heartattack from such tchycarida or a coma in about 2wks, As with my autoimmune diabetes I don't take insulin I will be dead in no less then 7 days!  Sjrogren's is manageable with out meds, just a nuisance! Yes, I do a lot of organic eating, and a lot of other things for my thyroid and type 1 diabetes, but I like I said dead if I don't take the meds!

 

Hope any of you that are mothers or have mothers had a wonderful Mother's Day! Hard to believe my daughter just started driving scary biggrin.png

 

Robert- You can have a normal TPO, but still  have abnormal tsh which is usually found in hypothyroid, Also cortisol can be related to adrenal glands! Having High Cortisol directly effects fat storage. low libido in men, leads to breakdown in muscle, testerone is decreased which in turn can cause insulin resistance and I believe it can raise estrogen levels. It can cause digestive issues, sleep issues and soo on.  Cortisol is produced and secreted under the influence of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal gland axis! Many endocrine functioning organs  such as thyroid, adrenals, pancreas etc.. have a strong relationship with the hypothalmus and pituitary! 

 

 

Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

 

Gladiatoro - The brain damage I am speaking of is those who committ suicide or become a vegetable or schizophrenia or those with some much rage they have snapped and killed ( Hans Peterson killed his derm) induced by Accutane in which it destroyed their brain! That is not minor by all means!

 

Also, Some of us have to depend on orthodox treatment from certain diseases from Accutane. I die if I don't take thyroid meds, by either heart attack from such tchycarida or a coma in about 2wks, As with my autoimmune diabetes I don't take insulin I will be dead in no less then 7 days!  Sjrogren's is manageable with out meds, just a nuisance! Yes, I do a lot of organic eating, and a lot of other things for my thyroid and type 1 diabetes, but I like I said dead if I don't take the meds!

 

Hope any of you that are mothers or have mothers had a wonderful Mother's Day! Hard to believe my daughter just started driving scary biggrin.png

 

Robert- You can have a normal TPO, but still  have abnormal tsh which is usually found in hypothyroid, Also cortisol can be related to adrenal glands! Having High Cortisol directly effects fat storage. low libido in men, leads to breakdown in muscle, testerone is decreased which in turn can cause insulin resistance and I believe it can raise estrogen levels. It can cause digestive issues, sleep issues and soo on.  Cortisol is produced and secreted under the influence of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal gland axis! Many endocrine functioning organs  such as thyroid, adrenals, pancreas etc.. have a strong relationship with the hypothalmus and pituitary! 

Oli girl , with the brain damage comment I was refering to  brain fog which most of us have , not the extreme cases where people

 

become suicidal or vegetables ,  I understand you have to take meds for your diabetes  , unfortunately the side

 

effects caused these problems for you and you have no choice , and that was my whole point , take one med , then have other problems .

 

 

 

 

My orthodox doc is a nice guy and he is smart , I got tested for diabetes a while ago because I'm always so thirsty hmmm.... wonder why ,

 

thankfully I don't have  diabetes not even type 2  so I don't have to take diabetes meds like you or  rather injections , I also had my thyroid

 

checked and it's ok , as for the thyroid there are natural alternatives sold at your local health food store that address that problem , just saying

 

you should look into it it may be a viable option for you.  And oli girl check out these links and by the way happy mothers day to you . (=

 

http://voices.yahoo....269.html?cat=71

 

http://www.naturalne...holy_basil.html


Edited by gladiatoro, 12 May 2013 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:52 PM

@Gladiatoro: Why don't you take one sentence of relevant quote as your point of departure; then you can riff till your little heart is content? 



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:29 PM

@Gladiatoro: Why don't you take one sentence of relevant quote as your point of departure; then you can riff till your little heart is content? 

Z24 I thought you were leaving us , too bad since your posts are useless and really offer no positive input on this forum.  Now stop harassing me

 

and be a good little boy and go away , I'm sure we will all rejoice in your departure.


Edited by gladiatoro, 12 May 2013 - 08:29 PM.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

@Gladiola: Ah, no. You should learn to take constructive criticism. You think you have contributed a modicum?



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:29 PM

Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

 

Gladiatoro - The brain damage I am speaking of is thoose who committ suicide or become a vegtable or schizophrenia or thoose with some much rage they have snapped and killed ( Hans Peterson killed his derm) induced by Accutane in which it destroyed thier brain! That is not minor by all means!

 

Also, Some of us have to depend on orthodox treament from certain diseases from Accutane. I die if I don't take thyroid meds, by either heartattack from such tchycarida or a coma in about 2wks, As with my autoimmune diabetes I don't take insulin I will be dead in no less then 7 days!  Sjrogren's is manageable with out meds, just a nuisance! Yes, I do a lot of organic eating, and a lot of other things for my thyroid and type 1 diabetes, but I like I said dead if I don't take the meds!

 

Hope any of you that are mothers or have mothers had a wonderful Mother's Day! Hard to believe my daughter just started driving scary biggrin.png

 

Robert- You can have a normal TPO, but still  have abnormal tsh which is usually found in hypothyroid, Also cortisol can be related to adrenal glands! Having High Cortisol directly effects fat storage. low libido in men, leads to breakdown in muscle, testerone is decreased which in turn can cause insulin resistance and I believe it can raise estrogen levels. It can cause digestive issues, sleep issues and soo on.  Cortisol is produced and secreted under the influence of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal gland axis! Many endocrine functioning organs  such as thyroid, adrenals, pancreas etc.. have a strong relationship with the hypothalmus and pituitary! 

 

 

>Camroz- Wouldn't Robert have to travel to the U.S. or will Crisler work by phone with a physican overseas? I believe Robert lives overseas if I am correct?

 

Gladiatoro - The brain damage I am speaking of is those who committ suicide or become a vegetable or schizophrenia or those with some much rage they have snapped and killed ( Hans Peterson killed his derm) induced by Accutane in which it destroyed their brain! That is not minor by all means!

 

Also, Some of us have to depend on orthodox treatment from certain diseases from Accutane. I die if I don't take thyroid meds, by either heart attack from such tchycarida or a coma in about 2wks, As with my autoimmune diabetes I don't take insulin I will be dead in no less then 7 days!  Sjrogren's is manageable with out meds, just a nuisance! Yes, I do a lot of organic eating, and a lot of other things for my thyroid and type 1 diabetes, but I like I said dead if I don't take the meds!

 

Hope any of you that are mothers or have mothers had a wonderful Mother's Day! Hard to believe my daughter just started driving scary biggrin.png

 

Robert- You can have a normal TPO, but still  have abnormal tsh which is usually found in hypothyroid, Also cortisol can be related to adrenal glands! Having High Cortisol directly effects fat storage. low libido in men, leads to breakdown in muscle, testerone is decreased which in turn can cause insulin resistance and I believe it can raise estrogen levels. It can cause digestive issues, sleep issues and soo on.  Cortisol is produced and secreted under the influence of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal gland axis! Many endocrine functioning organs  such as thyroid, adrenals, pancreas etc.. have a strong relationship with the hypothalmus and pituitary! 

Oli girl , with the brain damage comment I was refering to  brain fog which most of us have , not the extreme cases where people

 

become suicidal or vegetables ,  I understand you have to take meds for your diabetes  , unfortunately the side

 

effects caused these problems for you and you have no choice , and that was my whole point , take one med , then have other problems .

 

 

 

 

My orthodox doc is a nice guy and he is smart , I got tested for diabetes a while ago because I'm always so thirsty hmmm.... wonder why ,

 

thankfully I don't have  diabetes not even type 2  so I don't have to take diabetes meds like you or  rather injections , I also had my thyroid

 

checked and it's ok , as for the thyroid there are natural alternatives sold at your local health food store that address that problem , just saying

 

you should look into it it may be a viable option for you.  And oli girl check out these links and by the way happy mothers day to you . (=

 

http://voices.yahoo....269.html?cat=71

 

http://www.naturalne...holy_basil.html

 

Nope can't get away with just natural form for thyroid, mine is autoimmune and my right side if almost gone! As for Diabetes I do a lot of things along with insulin to keep the sugars stable through out the day, but no choice there either as my pancreas is kaput! In other words I am my pancreas, my beta cells are gone and I produce no insulin! I wish it was type 2 if I had to have it cause that can be controlled by exercise and diet and supplements!

Thanks for the links I will check them out!



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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:52 PM

I guess you are right; he is our little bundle of joy, and, we can’t bring ourselves to discipline him, no matter what.  Let’s fan the pandemonium, by contributing to the ineptness.  It was Mothers’ Day recently.

 

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:20 AM

Firstly my english is not perfect because I am from Poland. I am happy that I ve just found this site and this topic.   I have taken  Isotretinoin for 6 months. Now I haven't taken it for almost one year.  But I am sure my organism doesn't work like before.  I want like some people here my old life back.

The worst think the doctors doesn't take me seriously.

What's wrong  with me ? Mainly problems with digestion... I want to eat and eat and... I lost weight a little insead of put on weight.   When I took Isotretinoin my stool was whole grey, now it's not grey but it's diffrent it's more mushy, not well formed I can find some pices of food like corn. ( NEVER had problem with digestion corn before).

I used to like drinking alcohol, to be honest I drunk a lot and I felt OK.  Now after even a small dose I feel really bad. (my social life is ruined now) smile.png

I also feel like i got too much (probably) hydrochloric acid. (maybe becasue I eat too much)

Thank to this site I found out it's definitely problem with the liver, no matter that all my liver test were fine. Now my question. Is it  pernamet damage or temporary ? Is it possible to rebuild my digestion to normal ? Is there any post who 100% say what's work Jf i want to detox my liver ? Are the any aricles about it ? Are there any posts written by doctors who say how to come back to normal life ?

I really apraciete such solid voices here like Chico, but it's difficult to find  post which say what is trule working.

I shouldn't eat anything what has Vitamin A (retinol)? or should I eat food with retinol to replace "fake" retinol which probaboly still is in my liver

 

Btw. I havent had runny nose since taking Isotretinoin.

(I have never seen written such thinks about Isotretion on the polish sites. ) It shows me how  low is the awareness about how bad Isotretinoin is.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:10 AM

This really pisses me off, youre right, most doctors completely downplay the potential side effects of any given drug. When I was prescribed accutane my derm vaguely and dismissively said how accutane got a bad rap for some "possible suicides which were never proven to be related".

I am here to say, accutane not only made me suicidal, it  gave me delight at the thought of suicide! Thats sick, but thats how bad everything seemed in my mind. Brain damage a lesser side effect? *expletive expletive*, I HATE these drug companies.

 

Another accutane-related suicide.

 

I remember when this terrible story came out in 2002 of the boy crashing his plane into the building in Tampa, but had no idea Accutane was behind it.

 

http://web.archive.o...27200794292.htm

Yes, they even tested tissue from his liver to see if there was any residue of Accutane. There was also a nationwide story not to long ago where a boy was on accutane and went crazy and killed his girlfriend. They wouldn't let Dr Bremner or James O'donnell Ph.D testify and then parents were on the Today show and other outlets claiming as they looked back he was controlling!

People just don't get that this drug can cause very very bad things to the brain! Though I have a lot of problems, I sometimes feel lucky that I still have my brain outside of the fog at times.



Robert have you seen a Endocrinologist?

Oli girl , brain damage would be considered one on the milder side effects , it's true .

 

When you go to a orthodox doctor they are trained by the pharma rep to NEVER talk about side effects , only talk about benefits for the

 

particular drug being prescribed , so they treat one usually mild problem , let's say acne , and potentially  cause ten other problems you never

 

had hmmm... , sadly that is what happens most of the time. So more drugs are prescribed to treat the new side effects, it's a vicious cycle

 

and the only people that benefit is big pharma not you .

 

 

Orthodox medicine generally treats symptoms , for example you have back pain so they give you pain killers but RARELY to they actually treat

 

the underlying cause of your symptoms , they just mask them , I learned to stay away from them really it's best for me lol....



Of course it was the accutane none of us on here have any doubt.

For some reason, a lot more males become homicidal as well as suicidal maybe it effects the testosterone levels.

For me, I was suicidal, not only made one (obviously failed) attempt with a  gun, but tried to od, cut my wrists and even nearly jumped off a roof.  I couldnt be left alone, not with a knife a belt or an open window!

Accutane made me batshit crazy and suicidal, and I didnt feel any different until Id been off of it for about 4 months.

Another accutane-related suicide.

 

I remember when this terrible story came out in 2002 of the boy crashing his plane into the building in Tampa, but had no idea Accutane was behind it.

 

http://web.archive.o...27200794292.htm



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:59 AM

I guess you are right; he is our little bundle of joy, and, we can’t bring ourselves to discipline him, no matter what.  Let’s fan the pandemonium, by contributing to the ineptness.  It was Mothers’ Day recently.

 

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Z24 , no you can't discipline me ha , no one can , your post is actually funny lol...  



Evening prime rose oil , I'm thinking of trying it , it seems to have many benefits , joint pain , inflammation , nourish nails, scalp, and hair , promotes

 

blood flow ,even helps treat acne and rosacea  etc....

 

 

http://www.wholeheal...g-primrose-oil/


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:43 PM

I watch My Strange Addiction. Why? To see what horrible things people can do to themselves and still be better off than us.

 

People that eat Comet cleaner. Pottery. Glass. Dryer sheets. Rocks. Cigarette ashes. Drywall. Plastic. Nail polish. Boxes of laxatives. Detergent. Couch cushions. Gasoline. Deodorant. Huffing mothballs. Bathing in bleach. All with no lasting effects.

 

We were encouraged by certified doctors to take a legal prescription. And what's become of us?



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:37 PM

westersyl - You could pm Chico on liver detox if you wanted more direct answers on that. Also, you mention you are eating alot, but loosing weight. Accutane can cause numerous intestional, stomach, gastric issues and hormonal. Have you had your thyroid tested for hyperthyroid, have you been checked for U.C., Chron's or Gluten (celiac)? I am not sure about in the past, but I think Corn doesn't really digest in anyone, I'd have to recheck with my husband. Do you have hairloss, insomnia, flushing, palpatations or severe dryness? What labs have you had done, some get postive results and some are left guessing and searching for an answer!



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:57 PM

Z24 , no you can't discipline me ha , no one can , your post is actually funny lol...  

 


Evening prime rose oil , I'm thinking of trying it , it seems to have many benefits , joint pain , inflammation , nourish nails, scalp, and hair , promotes

 

blood flow ,even helps treat acne and rosacea  etc....

 

 

http://www.wholeheal...g-primrose-oil/

Well, of course you are thinking of trying it, you cheeky little dickens. The foolishness of man perverteth his way. Gamma-linoleic acid (GLA), which is derived from evening primrose oil and borage oil, is a powerful 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. I am just looking out for the peeps that actually want rectification. I don't know what we would do without you leading the way?

 

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:01 PM

Z24 , no you can't discipline me ha , no one can , your post is actually funny lol...  

 


Evening prime rose oil , I'm thinking of trying it , it seems to have many benefits , joint pain , inflammation , nourish nails, scalp, and hair , promotes

 

blood flow ,even helps treat acne and rosacea  etc....

 

 

http://www.wholeheal...g-primrose-oil/

Well, of course you are thinking of trying it, you cheeky little dickens. The foolishness of man perverteth his way. Gamma-linoleic acid (GLA), which is derived from evening primrose oil and borage oil, is a powerful 5-alpha reductase inhibitor. I am just looking out for the peeps that actually want rectification. I don't know what we would do without you leading the way?

 

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Ah yes Z24 those dangerous 5-alpha reductase inhibitors you keep bringing up , but funny when I took saw palmetto I had no negative side effects hmmm...

 

yes indeed primrose oil could be deadly to me ..... not , I think the only thing that's dangerous is you and your advice ha.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:22 PM

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