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Posted 25 April 2013 - 05:05 PM

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 05:33 PM

L-tyrosine is good - a precursor to dopamine which taken with Theanine to activate GABA, which modulates neurotransmitter functioning actually seems to boost my energy and focus, as well as lessen depression symptoms.  Again, has anyone doen the Gerson Therapy?  Supposed to beat cancers and rebuild the immune system through vegetable juices and coffee enemas.  I read on another thread:  a girl's acne disappeared after starting coffee enemas.  She wasn't an Accutane user, however, Gerson Therapy is supposed to be effective for people who've already undergone chemotherapy.  



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:07 PM

I talked to Nathan who said L-Lysine will help with dryness on the scalp and hair thinning.  I'm going to try that too... smile.png Glad some people here care more about addressing symptoms than having the biggest dick on the forum.

Funny ha.



L-tyrosine is good - a precursor to dopamine which taken with Theanine to activate GABA, which modulates neurotransmitter functioning actually seems to boost my energy and focus, as well as lessen depression symptoms.  Again, has anyone doen the Gerson Therapy?  Supposed to beat cancers and rebuild the immune system through vegetable juices and coffee enemas.  I read on another thread:  a girl's acne disappeared after starting coffee enemas.  She wasn't an Accutane user, however, Gerson Therapy is supposed to be effective for people who've already undergone chemotherapy.  

That would be us we all went unwillingly on chemotherapy I did anyways had I known it was a chemo drug I would have stayed away no doubt ,

 

chemo drugs are some of the most toxic drugs Big Pharma makes yet they hand them out like candy to teenagers and young adults . Ah yes Big

 

Pharma our friend , not. Who is willing to try the Gerson Therapy and report back to us we need a volunteer.


Edited by gladiatoro, 25 April 2013 - 08:35 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:42 PM

Utterly charming; I guess, thoroughly


Edited by camaroz28, 09 May 2013 - 11:06 PM.

"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

Ugh, figured out the problem with Kefir. It (can) have a real high alcohol content depending how long it's fermented. Had some from a grocery store that had been sitting on shelf long time, very fermented, devastated me. That was Monday, still feeling the effects pretty badly. Ugh. Worst is over now.


Accutane - Brief low-dose course ~9 years ago for ~4 months. Liver monitored, no sides. 
 
Symptoms: Gradual onset of symptoms, peaking ~5 years ago. Extreme IBS, lost ability to eat almost everything, unable to work for 4 years. IBD diagnosis might've been possible, but avoided doctors and the prescription meds route, going for diet and supplements instead. Thought it was regular IBS, didn't realize it was Accutane until already had avoided the IBD diagnosis. Decided going back to hell just to get the diagnosis wasn't worth it. Regained enough health to work full time around May-June 2013. 
 
Regimen summary:
Eat only 
1. true free range lean chicken breast (expensive)
2. Lean white-tail shrimp (moderately expensive)
3. Glutinous rice gruel (very cheap)
 
All ad libitum, minimum 150g shrimp/d. 
 
Supplements:
1. Blue Ice CLO / Butter Oil blend
2. Udca ~1-3g /d
3. Source Naturals Essential enzymes 2x per meal
4. Symbiotics Colostrum ~1/8 scoop per meal
5. Cycled topical testosterone cream
6. Topical ACV, tea tree oil (morning) and benzoyle peroxide 10% (night)
 
Zeitgeibers:
1. Aim to nap every 3 hours for 20 minutes
2. Match light exposure to sunrise, sunset
3. Match meals to sun

 


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

Z24 , you should try the Gerson therapy , I think you are the one most in need of it , if it improves your symptoms then we will all thank you for it and you will become a hero on this forum , instead of a nuisance , doesn't that sound good???


Edited by gladiatoro, 25 April 2013 - 08:43 PM.


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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:44 PM

@Gladiola: You didn't notice because you were too busy


Edited by camaroz28, 09 May 2013 - 11:06 PM.

"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:25 AM

Camaroz28 it seems like you have some kind of problem with yourself. No one ever argued before you came a long. Just shut up and disappear!!!! What is your problem, attacking people?? We are here to help each other, and you are the only useless person here so maybe go away if you have nothing better so say. You are picking at gladiatoro all the time and it is just childish, are you jealous or something?? Grow up or find another forum



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:39 PM

He's a jerk, but he knows his stuff.



Recovering from Accutane-related hair loss.

(over a year and a half after stopping...)


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:41 PM

I dunno! I leave you guys for a month and you're all biting eachother's necks haha.

 

Here's an audio recording I'm in (about Accutane) for those interested: https://soundcloud.c...die-for/s-7EQmS

I won't link you here, but if you search 'Stefan Lay' on Amazon, you'll find an e-book I wrote on dealing with depression (SMILE: Your way out of depression). 

I've been doing much better lately.

Still get down of course, but I'm dealing with it better.

 

Feel free to add me on Facebook, because I feel like I know some of you as friends now.

I don't come here often but will always be doing the YouTube videos

 

xx


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

Whats happening Stefan? good to see you back on the forum.



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:44 PM

Supreme crap. What a wrecking few days.

 

One of the hardest things to deal with is the judo toss from seemingly nothing. I get into this state of wondering what bit of food threw me off. But is it food?

 

I'm thinking the lining of the stomach and the blood brain barrier is thinned - or destroyed - by accutane. What then happens is a very sudden toxic build up and cleansing reaction. The last few days have been hell again.



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 05:35 PM

Camaroz28 it seems like you have some kind of problem with yourself. No one ever argued before you came a long. Just shut up and disappear!!!! What is your problem, attacking people?? We are here to help each other, and you are the only useless person here so maybe go away if you have nothing better so say. You are picking at gladiatoro all the time and it is just childish, are you jealous or something?? Grow up or find another forum

Evelyn: Thank-you for taking the time that you otherwise would have been spending on a liver flush to intervene; I'm quite sure you still have plenty of flushing left to do, so hop to it. Follow it up with a coffee enema. 



He's a jerk, but he knows his stuff.

Another deep cut; awe, the brutality. Does that mean you are going to stop liking my posts, given your most recent thumbs up; or, was it a middle finger gesture I misconstrued, because I want the respect of my peers? Jesus said they would mistreat me.


Edited by camaroz28, 26 April 2013 - 05:44 PM.

"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 06:00 PM

O.K. I honestly want back into the inner sanctum (the place where the hens roost). If I throw a lavish Tupperware party, and serve all the shakers and movers a saw palmetto berry cheesecake, will that allow me to get back into the fold. I promise to promote 5@reductase inhibitors without a conscience.


"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:27 PM

Camaroz28 it seems like you have some kind of problem with yourself. No one ever argued before you came a long. Just shut up and disappear!!!! What is your problem, attacking people?? We are here to help each other, and you are the only useless person here so maybe go away if you have nothing better so say. You are picking at gladiatoro all the time and it is just childish, are you jealous or something?? Grow up or find another forum

Evelyn: Thank-you for taking the time that you otherwise would have been spending on a liver flush to intervene; I'm quite sure you still have plenty of flushing left to do, so hop to it. Follow it up with a coffee enema. 



>>>He's a jerk, but he knows his stuff.

Another deep cut; awe, the brutality. Does that mean you are going to stop liking my posts, given your most recent thumbs up; or, was it a middle finger gesture I misconstrued, because I want the respect of my peers? Jesus said they would mistreat me.

 

Yes sbowlchica , Z24 is a jerk and he THINKS he knows his stuff , but does he really if he is so smart then why did he go on two courses of

 

accutane , one would think that after one course he would have figured out that he was being poisoned hmmm.... , yes Z24 is really smart

 

indeed ha. And Evelyn just ignore him trust me it's for the best .  (=


Edited by gladiatoro, 26 April 2013 - 11:28 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 11:51 PM

@Lurch: I already told you it was beta carotene. I took the second course hoping to put any remaining acne to rest. I was fine. I would take the beta carotene as an antioxidant, with other general health stuff. The point you have failed to note (as always) is that once I experienced anything untoward, I refused to take any more 5@reductase inhibitors. You on the other hand, have a plethora of side effects (which you deleted) and you continue to play with your health. You then condone reckless behaviour in others, to legitimise your own untenable position. Grow up.


"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 04:30 AM

Yeah i guess the only way to deal with sad people like camaroz is to ignore them. Shame I can't focus on reading what other people have to say because of his useless posts popping out on every page. Anyway, seems you are very cleaver camaroz or you trying to convince yourself you are, but in terms of giving any sort of advice you are useless. All you do is showing off with fancy words that don't offer anything to anyone. Bet, no one even reads it. I definitely won't. Won't reply to any of your childish posts, either.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:13 AM

 All you do is showing off with fancy words that don't offer anything to anyone. Bet, no one even reads it. I definitely won't. Won't reply to any of your childish posts, either.

Oh really; is that so? I can tell you that one of the avid readers here, referred to my witticism as “tasty treats” amongst other things. Things have escalated; I’m still inconsolable about the “jerk” comment. I will take a break for a week; if Gladys stops outrageously arguing the anti-androgen herbs are safe, I will not be back. I’m all about factualism, witticism and a sprinkle of panache. I’m not really on the go peddle. And, don’t tell me you have never worn a push-up bra to show off, or embellish a smidge. Out.


"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 27 April 2013 - 06:43 AM

GOOD. Go and work on your social skills.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:26 AM

Hallelujah we have peace on this forum again . Good riddance to you Z24.






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