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Posted 01 April 2013 - 01:49 PM


Today marks week 3 dumping/detoxing on a low oxalate diet. There has been hope, but most of the time, I feel like a brain-fogged, half-dead, orthorexic zombie.

Brain fog and insomnia coupled up make me want to hibernate all the time. It has never been this bad before. I have a difficult time finding the right words, so sometimes the things I say make no sense. My memory doesn't want to cooperate most of the time and my thoughts and movements are so slow. I feel like I'm living in slow-mo. This is my last semester in college--  on top of that, I have friends who like to have intellectual discussions and I feel like an absolute moron, so this is extremely frustrating for me and causes me a lot of anxiety. I've all but stopped caring about classes, because if I try, I'll only find more anxiety and frustration. So I bide time, meditating and clicking through Pinterest-- I don't want to read words. And trying to distract myself from my heightened emotions.

Sometimes the brain fog is liberating. It's weird not overthinking things and having a million thoughts before I go to bed. Sometimes I actually sleep better because of it. Sometimes I'm actually calmer! Like I said, Jekyll and Hyde.

I have headaches no hydration can ever cure. No matter how much water I drink, I still feel like I need more-- and if I drink too much water, I feel nauseated! Ugh. Sometimes it's the headaches that prevent me from sleeping well. Most of the time it's the frustration.

On the hair loss front, it's hit and miss. I had a couple days of awesomeness where I lost basically nothing!!! … and then there were some days when I lost a lot. On average, I'm getting slightly better than normal. Tea rinses and washing less may have something to do with it, too.

Skin's a lot less dry than it used to be. Dandruff is lessened. Eyes still tired and irritated, but less so. Body still fatigued. Itching is lessened. My digestion is better-- I used to have to sit at the table for about a half an hour after having finished eating, but I don't have to anymore. Still the other signs of dumping I mentioned last week.

I found something interesting on TH-1 and TH-2 dominance, related to the balance of Vitamin A/ Vitamin D. Maybe once my mind clears up, I'll try to make sense of it, but right now, it's all Greek to me.

Hopefully it gets better from this point on. The detox is worth it just to see the improvements in all these other areas.

 

You mentioned you get  headaches a lot yes it is a side effect of isotretinoin along with brain fog etc... , try willow bark  you can get it in capsule

 

form it is for pain and inflammation , you can buy it at most health food stores it is a all natural form of aspirin without the nasty side effects of the

 

synthetic version like gastrointestinal ulcers , stomach bleeding , tinnitus etc....


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:43 PM

I'm frankly starting to lose it with all of you.

 

I have handed you the cure on a silver platter so I don't want to see any other absurd responses. 

 

STOP talking about other craziness. These two things done together are literally the answer. Period. Any questions, ask them. We are here to help each other.

PS- Almost /all/ of our problems are due to dehydration/the body attacking the moisture producing areas of our body- so DRINK LOTS OF WATER and avoid things that dehydrate you. Inflammation is also a problem both internal and external, especially as it relates to the skin problem so many of us have, so anything that reduces inflammation will also help.

Oh Boy. I hate to burst your bubble but you haven't said anything that hasn't been stipulated on other forums years ago. Antibiotics may give some short term relief, but they are hardly a cure. You cannot curb chronic dehydration with diet changes, although it helps in a miniscule sense. Chronic dehydration means getting sun burnt on an autumnal day; it means not being able to stand up for 2 hours, so effectively all forms of work are off the table; it means chronic hypotension which compounds relentless brain fog which is also induced by depleted levels of neurosteroids. Please try and curb your arrogance.


"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

I'm frankly starting to lose it with all of you.

 

I have handed you the cure on a silver platter so I don't want to see any other absurd responses. 

 

**Starting on an antibiotic/Sjogrens medicine WILL help your side effects whether it be dry skin, heart palpitations, joint paint etc

**Avoiding certain things in your diet like processed foods WILL help your other/the same side effects like mental fog/depression- it's just finding the balance of moderation.. You will have to some nights stay away from all bread and carbs and just have fish for dinner. But that doesn't mean every night. And I promise you, the one day where you avoid it all, you will see a night and day difference the next day if not the same day.


Everyone's body chemistry is different so you will have to find what foods really give you a flare up like wheat/dairy/just eating too much in one sitting

But medicine is pretty straight-forward: any antibiotic seems to work and there are others that will help further if it is required.

STOP talking about other craziness. These two things done together are literally the answer. Period. Any questions, ask them. We are here to help each other.

PS- Almost /all/ of our problems are due to dehydration/the body attacking the moisture producing areas of our body- so DRINK LOTS OF WATER and avoid things that dehydrate you. Inflammation is also a problem both internal and external, especially as it relates to the skin problem so many of us have, so anything that reduces inflammation will also help.

All I can say is be careful of Mino as it can cause drug induced lupus just a fyi! I can't remember all your side effects, but I know a long term suffer from back in the 80's who developed Sarcoidosis from Accutane and has had to take antibotic for many yrs otherwise she can't function and has done well interestingly! Some with Rhuematoid benifit from antibotics! Did they ever tell you what was going on? Did any of your labs come back abnormal? Just curious! I have had doxy a few times, when my eyes and eyelids were really bad from the sjrogren's & once when I first got dx with type 1 diabetes!

I took a antimalaria (plaquenil) shortly after accutane to calm my immune system and it did help, but I stopped that about a couple of months ago!


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

I'm frankly starting to lose it with all of you.

 

I have handed you the cure on a silver platter so I don't want to see any other absurd responses. 

 

**Starting on an antibiotic/Sjogrens medicine WILL help your side effects whether it be dry skin, heart palpitations, joint paint etc

**Avoiding certain things in your diet like processed foods WILL help your other/the same side effects like mental fog/depression- it's just finding the balance of moderation.. You will have to some nights stay away from all bread and carbs and just have fish for dinner. But that doesn't mean every night. And I promise you, the one day where you avoid it all, you will see a night and day difference the next day if not the same day.


Everyone's body chemistry is different so you will have to find what foods really give you a flare up like wheat/dairy/just eating too much in one sitting

But medicine is pretty straight-forward: any antibiotic seems to work and there are others that will help further if it is required.

STOP talking about other craziness. These two things done together are literally the answer. Period. Any questions, ask them. We are here to help each other.

PS- Almost /all/ of our problems are due to dehydration/the body attacking the moisture producing areas of our body- so DRINK LOTS OF WATER and avoid things that dehydrate you. Inflammation is also a problem both internal and external, especially as it relates to the skin problem so many of us have, so anything that reduces inflammation will also help.

All I can say is be careful of Mino as it can cause drug induced lupus just a fyi! I can't remember all your side effects, but I know a long term suffer from back in the 80's who developed Sarcoidosis from Accutane and has had to take antibotic for many yrs otherwise she can't function and has done well interestingly! Some with Rhuematoid benifit from antibotics! Did they ever tell you what was going on? Did any of your labs come back abnormal? Just curious! I have had doxy a few times, when my eyes and eyelids were really bad from the sjrogren's & once when I first got dx with type 1 diabetes!

I took a antimalaria (plaquenil) shortly after accutane to calm my immune system and it did help, but I stopped that about a couple of months ago!

 

My GP did say Mino was one of the antibiotics you could take for years without normal resistance/immune issues. And no, sadly, all my labs came back normal. We don't know why it works, it just does. How did the plaquenil go for you? Did you see a lot of benefit while you took it? Is it not a long term drug?


I know as of now there is no cure. But altering your diet and taking something like an antibiotic or DMARD actually does work, and is actually, like you said, already agreed upon by people here on this forum. No, taking an antibiotic by itself will not fix the problem. That's why I said you have to use it in combination with altering your diet and you WILL see results as long as you keep it up. So I'm sorry if I sound arrogant, Camaroz, but I don't think sitting around complaining or offering homeopathic nonsense or otherwise wasting anyone's time on this forum is what anyone needs after years of no results. 

 

The stuff I posted works. It will GREATLY reduce if not eliminate your side effects if you can regulate your diet properly/be put on the right immune response drug. As for a cure, we can only pray. But I'm tired of seeing people miserable and wasting money. Follow what I posted and you WILL see results. Long term, hopefully science will catch up and we can solve this. But until then... Short term relief (as long as you keep up diet/drugs) is better than nothing. 

I know I like touching my face, or having a partner touch my face and not feeling like I'm 80 or have dead skin everywhere.
I know I like not having heart palpitations
I know I like not having brain fog and being depressed

Guess what- I hate to say it, but altering your diet really will do the trick + add an antibiotic/DMARD (Disease-modulating anti-rheumatic drug)  for good measure and you have no side effects as long as you keep it up, so it's up to you.


Edited by Nick Ryan, 01 April 2013 - 10:56 PM.

What has worked for me in order of safety/effectiveness: Eating small portions of food (no more than 2 fistfuls at any given sitting) *and/or* Low calorie/low fat/low-to-no grain diet while minimizing all dehydrating substances.

What helps: Methyl-B12, Exercise+Water and a Humidifier in your room.

What hasn't: Everything else (so far).

What makes it worse: Multivitamins** for whatever reason. If you need to take supplements, get the single supplement as needed- multivitamins can make your symptoms worse. Do your research on each vitamin! Eating large meals, and eating highly processed/fatty foods.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:11 AM

minocycline, udca, thc oil - they are all anti-inflammatories.
 
"Minocycline decreases the production of substances causing inflammation, such as prostaglandins, metalloproteinases and leukotrienes. It also increases production of interleukin-10, a substance that reduces inflammation."
 
Mino comes with potential GI symptoms, which would likely rule it out for me. Nevertheless this points towards anti-inflammatories as our best bet. 
 
My diet is ultra low in inflammatories. I eat small meals with a digestive enzyme every time. And of course UDCA is very important to my health.

Accutane - Brief low-dose course ~9 years ago for ~4 months. Liver monitored, no sides. 
 
Symptoms: Gradual onset of symptoms, peaking ~5 years ago. Extreme IBS, lost ability to eat almost everything, unable to work for 4 years. IBD diagnosis might've been possible, but avoided doctors and the prescription meds route, going for diet and supplements instead. Thought it was regular IBS, didn't realize it was Accutane until already had avoided the IBD diagnosis. Decided going back to hell just to get the diagnosis wasn't worth it. Regained enough health to work full time around May-June 2013. 
 
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Eat only 
1. true free range lean chicken breast (expensive)
2. Lean white-tail shrimp (moderately expensive)
3. Glutinous rice gruel (very cheap)
 
All ad libitum, minimum 150g shrimp/d. 
 
Supplements:
1. Blue Ice CLO / Butter Oil blend
2. Udca ~1-3g /d
3. Source Naturals Essential enzymes 2x per meal
4. Symbiotics Colostrum ~1/8 scoop per meal
5. Cycled topical testosterone cream
6. Topical ACV, tea tree oil (morning) and benzoyle peroxide 10% (night)
 
Zeitgeibers:
1. Aim to nap every 3 hours for 20 minutes
2. Match light exposure to sunrise, sunset
3. Match meals to sun

 


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:28 AM

My GP did say Mino was one of the antibiotics you could take for years without normal resistance/immune issues. And no, sadly, all my labs came back normal. We don't know why it works, it just does.

Where have we all heard that before? This guy's the winner who sent you off to the dermatologist to have your acne sorted? 


"Fret not fellas. I've got a 145 IQ, zen pain tolerance, the resilience of a cockroach, the survival instincts of a rat. I'll win; it's what I do. And then I'll help all of you, forgetting no one; I swear."

 

"I did get some fatigue and minor cramps from taste testing spicy food I was cooking. Even though I didn't swallow and rinsed, the residue got me. This hypersensitivity is annoying."

 

 

Thus spoke Joseph Buchignani.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

http://www.naturalne...estruction.html

 

I'm frankly starting to lose it with all of you.

 

I have handed you the cure on a silver platter so I don't want to see any other absurd responses. 

 

**Starting on an antibiotic/Sjogrens medicine WILL help your side effects whether it be dry skin, heart palpitations, joint paint etc

**Avoiding certain things in your diet like processed foods WILL help your other/the same side effects like mental fog/depression- it's just finding the balance of moderation.. You will have to some nights stay away from all bread and carbs and just have fish for dinner. But that doesn't mean every night. And I promise you, the one day where you avoid it all, you will see a night and day difference the next day if not the same day.


Everyone's body chemistry is different so you will have to find what foods really give you a flare up like wheat/dairy/just eating too much in one sitting

But medicine is pretty straight-forward: any antibiotic seems to work and there are others that will help further if it is required.

STOP talking about other craziness. These two things done together are literally the answer. Period. Any questions, ask them. We are here to help each other.

PS- Almost /all/ of our problems are due to dehydration/the body attacking the moisture producing areas of our body- so DRINK LOTS OF WATER and avoid things that dehydrate you. Inflammation is also a problem both internal and external, especially as it relates to the skin problem so many of us have, so anything that reduces inflammation will also help.

All I can say is be careful of Mino as it can cause drug induced lupus just a fyi! I can't remember all your side effects, but I know a long term suffer from back in the 80's who developed Sarcoidosis from Accutane and has had to take antibotic for many yrs otherwise she can't function and has done well interestingly! Some with Rhuematoid benifit from antibotics! Did they ever tell you what was going on? Did any of your labs come back abnormal? Just curious! I have had doxy a few times, when my eyes and eyelids were really bad from the sjrogren's & once when I first got dx with type 1 diabetes!

I took a antimalaria (plaquenil) shortly after accutane to calm my immune system and it did help, but I stopped that about a couple of months ago!

 

My GP did say Mino was one of the antibiotics you could take for years without normal resistance/immune issues. And no, sadly, all my labs came back normal. We don't know why it works, it just does. How did the plaquenil go for you? Did you see a lot of benefit while you took it? Is it not a long term drug?


I know as of now there is no cure. But altering your diet and taking something like an antibiotic or DMARD actually does work, and is actually, like you said, already agreed upon by people here on this forum. No, taking an antibiotic by itself will not fix the problem. That's why I said you have to use it in combination with altering your diet and you WILL see results as long as you keep it up. So I'm sorry if I sound arrogant, Camaroz, but I don't think sitting around complaining or offering homeopathic nonsense or otherwise wasting anyone's time on this forum is what anyone needs after years of no results. 

 

The stuff I posted works. It will GREATLY reduce if not eliminate your side effects if you can regulate your diet properly/be put on the right immune response drug. As for a cure, we can only pray. But I'm tired of seeing people miserable and wasting money. Follow what I posted and you WILL see results. Long term, hopefully science will catch up and we can solve this. But until then... Short term relief (as long as you keep up diet/drugs) is better than nothing. 

I know I like touching my face, or having a partner touch my face and not feeling like I'm 80 or have dead skin everywhere.
I know I like not having heart palpitations
I know I like not having brain fog and being depressed

Guess what- I hate to say it, but altering your diet really will do the trick + add an antibiotic/DMARD (Disease-modulating anti-rheumatic drug)  for good measure and you have no side effects as long as you keep it up, so it's up to you.

Taking ANY kind of antibiotics for years is a VERY bad idea , unless you want to completely destroy your immune system then go right ahead.  Click on the link .

 

 



http://www.gaia-heal...ne-system.shtml



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:34 PM

http://www.naturalne...estruction.html

 

 

I'm frankly starting to lose it with all of you.

 

I have handed you the cure on a silver platter so I don't want to see any other absurd responses. 

 

**Starting on an antibiotic/Sjogrens medicine WILL help your side effects whether it be dry skin, heart palpitations, joint paint etc

**Avoiding certain things in your diet like processed foods WILL help your other/the same side effects like mental fog/depression- it's just finding the balance of moderation.. You will have to some nights stay away from all bread and carbs and just have fish for dinner. But that doesn't mean every night. And I promise you, the one day where you avoid it all, you will see a night and day difference the next day if not the same day.


Everyone's body chemistry is different so you will have to find what foods really give you a flare up like wheat/dairy/just eating too much in one sitting

But medicine is pretty straight-forward: any antibiotic seems to work and there are others that will help further if it is required.

STOP talking about other craziness. These two things done together are literally the answer. Period. Any questions, ask them. We are here to help each other.

PS- Almost /all/ of our problems are due to dehydration/the body attacking the moisture producing areas of our body- so DRINK LOTS OF WATER and avoid things that dehydrate you. Inflammation is also a problem both internal and external, especially as it relates to the skin problem so many of us have, so anything that reduces inflammation will also help.

All I can say is be careful of Mino as it can cause drug induced lupus just a fyi! I can't remember all your side effects, but I know a long term suffer from back in the 80's who developed Sarcoidosis from Accutane and has had to take antibotic for many yrs otherwise she can't function and has done well interestingly! Some with Rhuematoid benifit from antibotics! Did they ever tell you what was going on? Did any of your labs come back abnormal? Just curious! I have had doxy a few times, when my eyes and eyelids were really bad from the sjrogren's & once when I first got dx with type 1 diabetes!

I took a antimalaria (plaquenil) shortly after accutane to calm my immune system and it did help, but I stopped that about a couple of months ago!

 

My GP did say Mino was one of the antibiotics you could take for years without normal resistance/immune issues. And no, sadly, all my labs came back normal. We don't know why it works, it just does. How did the plaquenil go for you? Did you see a lot of benefit while you took it? Is it not a long term drug?


I know as of now there is no cure. But altering your diet and taking something like an antibiotic or DMARD actually does work, and is actually, like you said, already agreed upon by people here on this forum. No, taking an antibiotic by itself will not fix the problem. That's why I said you have to use it in combination with altering your diet and you WILL see results as long as you keep it up. So I'm sorry if I sound arrogant, Camaroz, but I don't think sitting around complaining or offering homeopathic nonsense or otherwise wasting anyone's time on this forum is what anyone needs after years of no results. 

 

The stuff I posted works. It will GREATLY reduce if not eliminate your side effects if you can regulate your diet properly/be put on the right immune response drug. As for a cure, we can only pray. But I'm tired of seeing people miserable and wasting money. Follow what I posted and you WILL see results. Long term, hopefully science will catch up and we can solve this. But until then... Short term relief (as long as you keep up diet/drugs) is better than nothing. 

I know I like touching my face, or having a partner touch my face and not feeling like I'm 80 or have dead skin everywhere.
I know I like not having heart palpitations
I know I like not having brain fog and being depressed

Guess what- I hate to say it, but altering your diet really will do the trick + add an antibiotic/DMARD (Disease-modulating anti-rheumatic drug)  for good measure and you have no side effects as long as you keep it up, so it's up to you.

Taking ANY kind of antibiotics for years is a VERY bad idea , unless you want to completely destroy your immune system then go right ahead.  Click on the link .

 

 



http://www.gaia-heal...ne-system.shtml

Antibiotics are just one option, as I mentioned. There are plenty of DMARD's that can help as well. But ultimately anti-inflammatories and diet change are the biggest factors. I am currently on minocycline as it is already prescribed for issues like this and is safe for a number of years, but certainly, you are welcome to talk to your doctor and find a DMARD that works for you.


Edited by Nick Ryan, 02 April 2013 - 02:48 PM.

What has worked for me in order of safety/effectiveness: Eating small portions of food (no more than 2 fistfuls at any given sitting) *and/or* Low calorie/low fat/low-to-no grain diet while minimizing all dehydrating substances.

What helps: Methyl-B12, Exercise+Water and a Humidifier in your room.

What hasn't: Everything else (so far).

What makes it worse: Multivitamins** for whatever reason. If you need to take supplements, get the single supplement as needed- multivitamins can make your symptoms worse. Do your research on each vitamin! Eating large meals, and eating highly processed/fatty foods.


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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:09 AM

for me minocycline was pretty much the equivalent of accutane, that is all I am saying.



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:48 PM

Four weeks on low ox.

 

Meh, not much has changed. Still the same symptoms. Less insomnia and brain fog than last week. Not breaking out as much; still losing hair, but not as much; skin and scalp a lot less dry and flaky. The sensitivity is gone.

 

Weekly updates seem redundant, since not much is changing. Oxalate dumping is like that-- it's a gradual shift from dumping to breaking through to the other side. When I get to the point to where I only have the occasional detox day, I'll update you guys. Looks like it'll be about a month from now, trusting the opinions of others in the group. I have faith in this-- I've seen results already.



Recovering from Accutane-related hair loss.

(over a year and a half after stopping...)


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:54 AM

i read on a website this :

 

In adulthood, low testosterone may lead to decreased sexual function and desire, infertility, and erectile dysfunction. Loss of hair, decreased muscle mass, and osteoporosis or decreased bone density may occur.

 

I'm thinking to take something that will boost my testosteron level...something like tribulus terrestris. What do u think guys?



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

i read on a website this :

 

In adulthood, low testosterone may lead to decreased sexual function and desire, infertility, and erectile dysfunction. Loss of hair, decreased muscle mass, and osteoporosis or decreased bone density may occur.

 

I'm thinking to take something that will boost my testosteron level...something like tribulus terrestris. What do u think guys?

Have you had your testerone tested? I couldn't remember.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:50 PM

LONG TEXT BUT WORTH READING

hi everyone,

i just stumbled over your discussion here, thought i register myself and will try to help you!

i'm a roaccutan-victim as well, suffering since years with complete dryness from head to toe(which is a heavy problems, especially eyes), as well as hairloss and liver problems and tons of other little things.

since no doctor is able to help me with my symptoms (of course..) .. i'm reading a lot about alternative healing methods and help myself with it!

this topic can be quite complex (as you know) but i want to try to simplify it extremely (also because my english is not the best, sorry for that btw wink.png

first advise how to get a healthy liver back (yes you heard me right!)

there is a russian doctor called "michail tombak" who was very sick in his early years and managed to get completely healthy with alternative healing methods.

there is a russian healing method where you are fasting and at a certain point, drink vegetable oil and lemon juice in a specific amount and with a specific instruction on an empty stomach. that's extremely simplified! in his book is a proper instruction which one should follow step by step since we are talking about our inner organs. what it makes it cleans you liver, like no drug in the world or no doctor in the world could achieve! maybe you can find some of his texts or books in english (available in polish, russian, german, thats for sure). or just google about russian liver cleaning. with his techniques and a bit time you can highly probable get a quite good liver back. i did it already two times and made great improvements! you can't imagine what is inside our organs, it's full of toxic stuff through alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, bad food, what ever, but especially of course through this fucking roaccutan!
it basically comes out when you go to toilette, after you have done this method, and you will see stuff that comes out (big as hazelnuts for example) in different colors etc. etc. .. mouldy stuff and what not. this is all in our liver and possible to clean!

second thing to get better!

it's actually quite simple. our body is running at a specific ph-value. through drugs,alc, bad food, and especially through such a toxic poison like roaccutan, the body/blood gets acid (hope thats the right word for it). the acid blood / bad ph-value needs to be cleared by the body, otherwise we would die. how does the body that? by taking minerals from all over the body to create a good and alkaline ph-value. the thing is, if there are not enough minerals anymore (magnesium,calcium etc.) to keep the good value, we get sick because our "depots" of minerals are getting empty. this is basically how diseases develop over years. when you get older, you mostly get sick this way.

we are not old, but we took roa and we are so poisoned probably that our depots are empty and the body quite fucked. so we need to detox and to refill! to get healthy again. and it doesn't matter which disease you have, it's good against all of them.

the liver method is of course a good thing to detox already. apart from that though we need a right nutrition. this nutrition creates an alkaline ph value in ous. it's called alkaline nutrition, who is the healthiest above all others. i can just recommend to read about all that stuff, it's quite simply at the end. there are charts with alkaline food on the whole web, unfortunately the most are not perfect or even wrong! they need to be perfect though, this is really important.

allowed is: fruits,vegs,almonds,potatoes,milo/millet,sprouts, cream, butter, good plant oils. don't even ask the rest is just not allowed. to drink only water and herbal tees. plus, fresh pressed juice and green smoothies are perfect. vegs+fruits only fresh and uncooked! if cooked not too long and tomatoes never cooked at all. everything organic of course, we don't want more toxic stuff in our body, right?

this nutrition tries keep the body with a good ph value, free from toxic bad food and tries at the same time to refill your depot with minerals. it's quite hard though to achieve that in a short time. so that all takes a while. plus you need good(!) quality supplements, they are mostly quite expensive.

3 litre water, herbal tee and three 1 hour detox baths a week (with special detox salt) is apart from the special nutrition the way to slowly get everything out over the kidneys, skin, etc. etc.

for hairloss i can highly recommend this nutrition in combination with the baths, plus a light, small towel wrapped around your hair which was soaked in 0,5l water + a tablespoon of this salt, to detox the skin under the hair, which causes the hairloss.

you have to be super-strict with this nutrition and all detoxing methods, otherwise it won't bring anything.

i can tell you though that i made improvements over the past couple month trying all this. hairloss stopped for example, skin in the face got better, and i am improving liver values. to get completely healthy again, it probably will take years, but it's the only way when you are interested in getting it back.

i feel sorry for you all, it's terrible what happened, but we need to try everything. spend time with natural healing, read about it, it's the only way!

if someone has any helpful advice for me in terms of eyes / dryness in general, i'm happy for all infos.

all the best!


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

In adulthood, low testosterone may lead to decreased sexual function and desire, infertility, and erectile dysfunction. Loss of hair, decreased muscle mass, and osteoporosis or decreased bone density may occur.

 

I'm thinking to take something that will boost my testosteron level...something like tribulus terrestris. What do u think guys?

 

Tried that, although I don't have low T.

 

Not good. Most current studies show trib doesn't actually work well.

 

Joe suggested Tongkat Ali a while back and I tried that, it's better.



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

In adulthood, low testosterone may lead to decreased sexual function and desire, infertility, and erectile dysfunction. Loss of hair, decreased muscle mass, and osteoporosis or decreased bone density may occur.

 

I'm thinking to take something that will boost my testosteron level...something like tribulus terrestris. What do u think guys?

 

Tried that, although I don't have low T.

 

Not good. Most current studies show trib doesn't actually work well.

 

Joe suggested Tongkat Ali a while back and I tried that, it's better.

 

Did u try to increase your testosteron? and how? a high dose of zinc it may help with increasing the T level?

Did you test your estrogen level?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:06 AM

i read on a website this :

 

In adulthood, low testosterone may lead to decreased sexual function and desire, infertility, and erectile dysfunction. Loss of hair, decreased muscle mass, and osteoporosis or decreased bone density may occur.

 

I'm thinking to take something that will boost my testosteron level...something like tribulus terrestris. What do u think guys?

Have you had your testerone tested? I couldn't remember.

 

My testosteron is 19.09.......an user from this forum showed me an web page, where there's a study , also a table with the normal T levels, based on age. My result its lower than the T level of men who have 55-64 years old. What do u think about that?



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

Did u try to increase your testosteron? and how? a high dose of zinc it may help with increasing the T level?

Did you test your estrogen level?

 

Not to increase testosterone, to feel better. Zinc with magnesium is said to increase T levels.

 

I didn't test estrogen levels.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

Got blood tests back... the only thing out of range was DHEA, and it was too high. 442! I read through some of the earlier posts and many of you guys had low DHEA and were worried about that. Many other people online with high DHEA had hair loss, too.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 11:00 PM

Got blood tests back... the only thing out of range was DHEA, and it was too high. 442! I read through some of the earlier posts and many of you guys had low DHEA and were worried about that. Many other people online with high DHEA had hair loss, too.

Your adrenal glands produce DHEA! High DHEA can be a sign of Poly Cystic Ovarian Syndrome, Tumor on the Hypothalamus/adrenals or some type of adrenal dysfunction /disorder like hyperplasisa (?) Cushing's usually is both high cortisol & DHEA.  Some with Thyroid disorders and soo on.....

 

What other labs or work up have they done, or let me guess they are blowing off the high DHEA levels????


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:00 AM

I have low cortisol/ high DHEA, but I'm not sure really what that indicates.

This was from my test over a year ago.

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