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[sdro123]

I would ensure first that the one person he treated, did indeed get better.  I know you're very much like me, and  a lot of people on here who would try anything, but you are right.  You want to make sure that using your own cells would be effective.  Is there another form of stem cell you can receive? I'm sure it's  something you can bring up at the consultation...I'm considering exploring this venture further, but just be careful it is a credible source, and not a scam.  I'm sure you know this, but there are many out there.  The last thing i'd want for you is worse problems and debt!  Take care.

[TaneAbomination]

9 grand for stem cell therapy - Im booked for a consult on the 12th March.

Everyone - please give me your opinions, do you think that this may help?

The doctor said he had treated one person before that had accutane sides, he's going to pull her file and we can discuss symptomatic relief at the consult.

 

I dont care I would do anything to normalize my body again - Im just scared that re injecting the same polluted cells into me may do nothing.

9 grand sounds about right. I am considering this for myself if nothing else works.  The neurologist I'm currently seeing has no doubt in his mind that isotretinoin is the cause of my present issues and actually suggested stem cell therapy, though he mentioned they would take stem cells from my liver but I've read they can also be taken from bone marrow. 

 

The reason I believe this type of therapy would be helpful for accutane sufferers is because it's shown to reverse chemo damage (in rodents).  See link below:

 

Stem cells might reverse heart damage from chemo

http://abcnews.go.co...tory?id=9450419

 

It's important to note that a risk of stem cell therapy is that it could turn into cancer cells.  I would definitely mention this to the doctor when you have your consultation on March 12.

 

Here's my humble opinion.. if I were in a lot of pain, and my perception from your posts that you are definitely in a lot of pain...then I would consider taking the risk though personally I would try C.O. first to see if that helps (if you can obtain it).

 

Short basic article on stem cell therapy (from a holistic practicioner):

http://www.drlwilson...L THERAPIES.htm

 

Best wishes for you...I know you've suffered a lot so hoping this could be a light at the end of the tunnel.  Also, when you have your consultation please let us what happened to other accutane victim this doctor treated.  I hope the treatment was successful.  This could be exciting news for us.

[Livetoregret]

Thanks for your thoughts so far guys it means alot to me - the group of doctors offering this treatment are cosmetic physicians and cell biologists.

I spoke to the DR today and he said the last patient did have some improvement and her sypmtoms were very similar to mine.

The stem cells are harvested from fat in this case I believe which could pose a problem, I think I would [prefer them extracted from fat compared to an organ though. Basically there are no promises though.

I am also working with a holisitc cosmetic physician and Im going to do the blood cleansing before hand in conjunction with alot of accupuncture.

If only I could get some of those cord cells....

 

I have sent him an email detailing my concerns, along with photographs and a timeline of events over the last 2 years. I am so done suffering like this. I would pay anything to make it stop and twice that to reverse it. Money means nothing now.

 

@taneabbomination - thankyou for the links I will check them out and send you a pm.

 Some info from their site:

 

Where do stem cells come from?

Stem cells are a type of regenerative cell and form part of the body’s own repair mechanisms. They are found throughout the body and when a stem cell divides, each new cell has the potential to either remain a stem cell or differentiate (change) into a specific cell type with a specialised function, such
as a muscle cell, a red blood cell or a nerve cell.

Stem cells are present in adipose tissue in very high numbers. One gram of fat will contain more than 5 million stem cells. In comparison, the same amount of bone marrow will contain less than 1,000 stem cells.

 

What is the process?

The Macquarie Stem Cells autologous stem cell therapy is an extension of fat grafting. The fat cells and connecting collagen are removed leaving purified cells which include stem cells, progenitor and other regenerating cells and growth factors.

Stem cell therapy at Macquarie Stem cells is autologous, which means that they come from your own tissue.

Tissue is extracted via a mini-liposuction procedure, under local anesthetic, to extract around 60 cc’s of adipose (fat) tissue from the abdomen. Unrefined adipose tissue is primarily composed of the adipocyte tissue (80%) and a network of mostly capillaries that surround the adipocytes.

The patented process for separating the stem cells is unique as it uses a form of ultrasound (ultrasonic cavitation) to separate the cells. No enzymes or chemicals are needed. This allows us to keep the Bio scaffold and growth factors which are destroyed by other methods.

This technique can harvest up to ten times the number of stem cells than other techniques – such as those that rely on enzymes alone.

The mix of separated cells remaining are known as Stromal Vascular Fraction (SVF) cells, which is contains around 60 per cent stem cells and the remainder made up of progenitor and other regenerating cells and growth factors.

Before use the SVF cells are them subjected to a quality test using an instrument called a flow cytometer to check each sample for cell viability and the cell count for each patient. This is an important quality step that allows ongoing tracking and monitoring of safety data.

 

What are the risks?

Macquarie Stem Cells has successfully treated more than 150 patients since 2009 without significant adverse event.

As an autologous product, the donor of the tissue and the recipient of the cells are the same person. This highly reduces problems commonly associated with allogeneic products. The risks of rejection are greatly reduced. The risks of allergic reaction are also highly reduced.

There have been no reported serious adverse reactions with adipose SVF stem cell therapy. Temporary minor reactions have been observed in 10 per cent of patients including flushing, heart palpitations (for a few minutes after the injection), and slightly raised temperature just after the injection.

Is stem cell therapy for me?

There are a number of instances in which you may be unsuitable for stem cell therapy.

Some conditions that might exclude you from suitability for stem cell therapy might include:

• Pregnancy;
• Blood disorders;
• Low BMI or insufficient fat reserves;
• Infection;
• Unstable illness;
• Blood thinning medication;
• Diabetes; and
• Cancer.

Patients who have cancer are currently unable to undergo stem cell therapy. There is contradictory evidence at present about the interaction between adipose stem cells and cancer. Some studies in mice have pointed to an increase in the growth rate of cancer with adipose stem cells, while other studies have shown that stem cells inhibit cancer.

Until further clinical trials have been conducted on adipose stem cells and cancer, patients who have cancer are unable to receive stem cell therapy.

Previous cancer patients must be cleared by their oncologist to receive treatment.

 

The treatment process

 

After initial consultation and being cleared for treatment, a treatment plan will be discussed. This will include the number of therapy sessions required and any preparation and follow up checks and tests required.

A single stem cell therapy session takes only three hours as the cells are extracted, processed and then reinjected on site at Macquarie Stem Cells.

You will receive a mini-liposuction procedure, under local anesthetic, and the physician will remove approximately 60 cc’s of adipose (fat) tissue from the abdomen or other suitable location..

The SVF stem cells are injected into the affected site and also intravenously. This technique is known to almost double the effectiveness of the technique.

The stem cells then home to the site of injury to begin the process of repairing damaged tissue, such as the connective tissue damaged in osteoarthritis patients.

The remaining progenitor cells and growth factors help the stem cells to begin the process of repair and regeneration.

[Livetoregret]

 

Psoriasis

Mutations on genes cause certain cells to function differently. With psoriasis, these mutations seem to largely alter T-helper cells.

Immune System Causes of Psoriasis

In a normally functioning immune system, white blood cells produce antibodies to foreign invaders such as bacteria and viruses. These white blood cells also produce chemicals that aid in healing and fighting infective agents. But with psoriasis, special white blood cells called T-cells become overactive.

These T-cells “attack” the skin and set off a cascade of events that make the skin cells multiply so fast they start to stack up on the surface of the skin. Normal skin cells form, mature, and then are sloughed off every 30 days. But in plaque psoriasis the skin goes through this whole process in 3-6 days.

Normally T-cells produce chemicals that help heal the skin. In psoriasis, T-cells produce an abnormally large amount of these chemicals and actually cause more inflammation in the skin and joints.

How Do Environmental Triggers Affect Psoriasis?
Encountering certain environmental triggers seems to jump-start the machinery of the body’s immune system in vulnerable individuals. When you have an autoimmune disease, such as psoriasis, the machinery doesn’t confine its attack to a real invading enemy. Once the immune system gets rolling, it assaults the tissues and organs of the body with the equivalent of friendly fire.

Some of the environmental factors that seem to be able to trigger psoriasis or to cause a flare-up of the condition in someone who already has the disorder include:

Infections – Psoriasis often starts or worsens after you’ve had some kind of infection, especially one caused by streptococcus bacteria (as in “strep throat”).

Medications – Lithium, antimalaria drugs, high blood pressure medicines (called “beta blockers”) and the anti-inflammatory drug Indocid (indomethacin) are some of the drugs that seem to be possible triggers

Skin injury – Overly dry skin, sunburn, cuts and scratches sometimes seem to be able to add the insult of psoriasis to the original injury.

Stress – Some studies suggest that stress can serve as a trigger

Possible Role for Stem Cells

Stem cells and stem cell mixes such as Stromal Vascular Fraction Cells (SVF) are known to reset up-regulated genes. This is the basic defect in Psoriasis.

The up-regulated genes then stimulate an overreaction in the T-cells which produce excess inflammation in the skin and joints. Stem cells and SVF cells have been shown to decrease inflammation.

Theoretically stem cell and SVF cells will ameliorate psoriasis but not provide a “cure”.

Multiple Sclerosis and other neurological conditions

Macquarie Stem Cells is now treating patients with MS with some success. Our colleagues around the world are reporting improvements with other

neuro-degenerative disorders We are now starting to treat motor neurone disease, parkinsons, and other immune disorders.

A small study on the use of stem cells obtained from a patient’s own fat tissue in the treatment of multiple sclerosis has shown promising results. The three case studies support further clinical evaluation of stromal vascular fraction (SVF) cells in multiple sclerosis and other autoimmune conditions.

Thomas Ichim and Dr. Boris Minev worked with a team of researchers to demonstrate the possible effectiveness of SVF cells in multiple sclerosis treatment.

Minev said, “All three patients in our study showed dramatic improvement in their condition after the course of SVF therapy. While obviously no conclusions in terms of therapeutic efficacy can be drawn from these reports, this first clinical use of fat stem cells for treatment of multiple sclerosis supports
further investigations into this very simple and easily-implementable treatment methodology”.

Multiple sclerosis is an autoimmune condition, in which the body’s own defenses attack nerve cells, resulting in loss of their fatty myelin sheath. The first symptoms usually occur in young adults, most commonly in women. It is believed that SVF cells, and other stem cells, may be able to treat multiple sclerosis by limiting the immune reaction and promoting the growth of new myelin. According to Minev, “None of the presently available multiple sclerosis treatments selectively inhibit the immune attack against the nervous system, nor do they stimulate regeneration of previously damaged tissue. We’ve shown that SVF cells may fill this therapeutic gap”.

 

[JosephBuchignani]

You're going to spend 9g on stem cells, which sometimes do nothing, but you won't try a 24 hour fast? That's nuts.

 

You've moved to a much higher sugar diet. Fruits have sugar. That could be your problem. 

 

You used to be a pretty girl and now you're not. Diet could be a major factor. Do the fast and find out. If you feel better, you know your "healthy" diet was wrong.

 

Before you spend 9g on stem cells, you should spend a lesser sum on THC oil. Go to a head shop and get a contact or two. They're in every major city.

Edited by JosephBuchignani, 28 February 2013 - 06:20 AM.

[LillyRose7]

my dermatologist does stem cell therapy for the skin, they extract blood or something and it undergoes a process whereby they then inject it into the damaged tissues. They use it to increase fibroplasts (INCREASE, NOT simply STIMULATE)and this causes the skin to plump, and regenerate. It can be useful in gaining back loss volume/tissue etc and looking healthier.

 

my herbal doctor/colonic hydrotherapist told me that she gets a dermatologist who sends her patients after they have finished their rounds of accutane, to clear out their colon and begin a detoxification program, and she said that her accutane patients are SO dry, their colons are dry, its like their colons literally drink up the water.

[IndigoRush]

Stefan,

 

Would a nutritionist be the best person to get a food allergy test done? or a gastroenterologist? or both? I havn't explored that realm yet, but i definitely believe i have food allergies. I also have a strange addiction to sushi....like real sushi...not the cooked crapped...talking raw fish and rice. I think it may have to do with the fact that it's a natural source of iodine and fatty acids....yum. 

 

The other Stef.

 

Hi...

There are tests available online, like a hair analysis, but I wouldn't trust them to be accurate.

But their is some kind of an immune-response test which can pinpoint allergies.

Haven't actually been down that route myself.

For the last week I've been eating natural yoghurt.

Seems to be helping my digestion a bit, but too early to tell.

I try to eat lots of butter because it's a good source of fat.

My skin seems quite nice at the moment.

I barely wash it, aside from using water.

I figure some people here get worse because they read information suggestion a raw vegan diet.

Though I wouldn't say eating natural foods is a bad idea, the debate is up for whether avoiding protein is smart.

I have boiled eggs and buttered toast every morning... Keeps me full for a while and the combination of carbs and protein/fat means my blood-sugar doesn't go crazy high.

 

Stef

Wow, LiveToRegret, how can you even afford $9,000? If that's Australian Dollar's I don't know how much that is in pounds, but sounds like an investment.

And it sounds like a risk.

I don't know about Stem Cells, but my opinion (from having spent large sums of money on supplements and professional help) is to avoid.

If it doesn't work out, you'll be gutted that you wasted all that money on nothing.

If it doesn't work out, you'll likely be out of money and will rely on regular income.

If the thing about potential cancer is true, that'd be a No-no for me.

 

My personal opinion is that anything that isn't natural and available for free (technically - meaning, products of Nature that aren't harvested and sold in Supermarkets) is messing with things that shouldn't be messed with. But it's your money.

 

If I were you, I'd take a break from all this and get some Sunshine and relaxation, but you live in Australia...

I live in Cold England.

 

You've never uploaded any pictures of your skin here.

I don't know why.

Nobody here is judging...

Well, I'm interested to see if it's as bad as you make out.

I don't know how bad things are for you, and I won't know without some kind of evidence.

Feed my curiosity? 

[Believe]

I wish I had 9 grand, I would be sippin on organic colostrum all day every day, just kidding, I will be doing that anyways as soon as I have a reasonable income

[sdro123]

So how do i get connected with THC oil?? Not in the know in terms of the drug trade, but i can swing a dimebag lol

[Livetoregret]

I dont have 9 grand. I would be getting myself into massive debt.

 

Stef - Theres a before and after folder in my profile.

 

Chemo skin reactions explained: http://chemocare.com...-reactions.aspx

Basically, we in a nutshell.

 

Thanks for the brutal honesty Joseph , yeah I know Ive lost my looks since accutane, Its because my hair is destroyed, and my skin is ruined from cellular dehydration.

I do not look like the person I was 12 mnths ago - Thats not because of sugar, its because accutane has dried me out like an old boot.

Pre all this I lived on alot of the same foods but I have a sweet tooth.

I just dont see the point in depriving my body of anything it needs to try and heal itself. Cannabis oil is not going to fix the dried out skin or hair issues, I need to kick start my cell division into working again.

[TaneAbomination]

@Livetoregret:  You may be wrong about THC oil.  I've read it can heal radiation burns.

 

Source: http://phoenixtears.ca/  (sorry, this is antedoctal may not be "scientific irrifutable evidence" - but still to be considered.)

 

At a minimum, it would relax you and relieve your pain.  But I understand it's extremely hard to get - unless maybe you become a medical tourist and venture to places (e.g. Netherlands) where it's available.

[Livetoregret]

Im pretty doubtful that smoking something is going to alleviate the issues associated with dried out skin, hair and hairloss...

I made some hash oil and all that did was the usual THC effect.

 

Speaking of colostrum though we should all be taking this one: http://colostrummax.com/

[TaneAbomination]

One more thing I feel obligated to add...I mentioned in a previous post that I'm currently on a nutritional balancing program based on a hair mineral test analysis.  This program has done wonders for my skin and hair & energy levels.  For awhile, post accutane, my hair was falling out in globs - very similar to those photos Livetoregret posted - I was afraid I was going bald.  Fortnuately hair loss has slowed and my hair has returned to its silky ,shiny black mane.  Skin is flawless now, better than it was before accutane (if you can believe that.)   Unfortunately, my internal more serious issue remains but I am hoping this too will improve with time - if not I know what my alternatives are.

 

If you're interested in nutritional balancing here's some links:

 

http://www.holistic-...r-analysis.html - my nutritionalist's website.

http://www.drlwilson.... BAL INTRO.htm - about Nutritional Balancing.

http://drlwilson.com...ir analysis.htm - list of practitioners (international too!)

 

I will be upfront and say that the hair mineral analysis test & consultation was $170 and the recommended supplements usually range around $100 a month.  But it's a less expensive alternative to 9 grand stem cell therapy if you're patient & follow the program

 

Thanks to Stefan for this, you posted a video long time ago gave me this idea to try! 

[JosephBuchignani]

Livetoregret, I'm being honest with you because I think you are a good person, but you are being lazy and defeatist. You reject easy ideas without trying them. Who cares what you think will work? You didn't think Accutane would destroy your body and it did, so obviously you are not omniscient. 

 

I have no option but to innovate. If I don't, I suffer excrutiating pain daily that threatens my will to live. There is no mercy in pain, there is only what works and what doesn't. If you don't experiment, you will never learn, and pain will keep you forever.

 

Also, you are not that bad looking now, although you were extremely pretty before. So I think diet is a factor in your depression and inertia. Your vegan fruity whatever diet is killing you.

 

I refuse to die, and I refuse to quit. When the pain gets too loud, I stop moving, but I know that it will recede, and then I will get up again. You must do this many times if you want to win.

[Livetoregret]

Livetoregret, I'm being honest with you because I think you are a good person, but you are being lazy and defeatist. You reject easy ideas without trying them. Who cares what you think will work? You didn't think Accutane would destroy your body and it did, so obviously you are not omniscient. 

 

I have no option but to innovate. If I don't, I suffer excrutiating pain daily that threatens my will to live. There is no mercy in pain, there is only what works and what doesn't. If you don't experiment, you will never learn, and pain will keep you forever.

 

Also, you are not that bad looking now, although you were extremely pretty before. So I think diet is a factor in your depression and inertia. Your vegan fruity whatever diet is killing you.

 

I refuse to die, and I refuse to quit. When the pain gets too loud, I stop moving, but I know that it will recede, and then I will get up again. You must do this many times if you want to win.

Thanks Joseph, I know its true and its hard to face every day.

I have watched myself look like a different person in such a short period of time due to this drug and its been nothing short of completely traumatizing.

I know you are right and I am so desperate at this stage I would do anything, but everything has turned out to be a dead end for me and it makes me want to give up I feel as though I have no hope at ever having my normal life again.

 

I dont have a vegan diet, I eat meat nearly every day, I used to not eat all day - I only ate one meal a day at dinner time.Meat, Veg, salad etc. I always restricted myself and rarely ate before 6pm before all this. But always healthy choices.

I only eat fruit through the day now to bolster vitamins and minerals, I dont feel I have benefited anything 

 

The only things Ive been dicey on trying are fasting & cannabis oil at this point. I already smoke each day to manage pain and over time its made me more and more lethargic and Im sure contributed to my depression obviously.

 

I'll do a 2 day fast strictly just taking in only water over the weekend and i'll report back  on Monday

[JosephBuchignani]

Atta girl. I think you're tough. 

 

Just do a 24 hour fast, 48 is harder. I hope it reveals a major problem in your diet, that would be an easy fix. 

 

Yes, smoking weed can contribute to a decline, although it's great for pain.

[acne1776]

Atta girl. I think you're tough. 

 

Just do a 24 hour fast, 48 is harder. I hope it reveals a major problem in your diet, that would be an easy fix. 

 

Yes, smoking weed can contribute to a decline, although it's great for pain.

 

No one is suggesting smoking weed will help. Eating "rick simpson oil" is what accutaneispoison says cured him.

[IndigoRush]

Okay, L-T-R (LiveToRegret, Not LeftToRight)..

I've had a look at your pictures.

I'm always honest, so will be here...

You can tell a difference, but you don't look nearly as bad as I thought you would from how you've said.

You still have a lot of hair from what I can see, though I know it won't be in the healthy state it was prior to all of this.

At first, I did think your skin perhaps looked quite aged, but then I assumed you were in your early twenties like me.

At 31, I don't think you look too bad.

Take solace in what I'm saying, because I'm sure you're very hard on yourself.

I'm not pretending your skin looks how it should.

Clearly you're body is suffering somehow... But I really would advise against getting into debt.

If there was a very high chance of recovery from stem cells, I'd say Yeahhhh, do it.

But who know's if that'd really help?

 

You look exhausted in your recent pictures.

Under your eyes mostly.

Do you get much sleep/rest? 

Stress will obviously worsen this.

I'm sure you've tried an array of products, but aloe vera is such lovely stuff, I think that's the best you could use right now (meaning Aloe Vera gel).

Internally, it could help to reduce inflammation.

 

You still need to keep a fighting attitude.

You're living in fear because you've lost so much already.. You've lost faith in the World and don't really expect anything to help you.

I'm sure this is mainly because you've searched the Internet and realised there are many in the same boat and not too many shouting about cure's.

But, we will get through this.

Doesn't matter how, or when, we just will.

Listen to anything positive; don't pay attention to the negative stories.

A reminder - I used to spend hours trying to put 2 + 2 together, but I never found anything and became so much more frustrated because of it.

I read all the terrifying stories about people who developed problems years after stopping the drug.

Someone in their 20's dropped dead to a heart problem and their parent was claiming Accutane was the cause.

But it got to the tipping point where I'd read enough horror stories.

The shock value in them was gone for me.

Gradually I stopped looking for reasons to talk about this drug because I realised nobody wanted anything to do with me when I was depressed and feeling sorry for myself. At first, people are sympathetic, but then they just lost interest in you.

That can be the hardest part of depression - loneliness.

But, I used that as motivation because I didn't want to be 'that' person.

 

There might be a voice in your head while you read this saying 'Indigo doesn't know. He got off lightly with this drug. I don't want this advice. It's bullshit. I can't be positive when I look like this now.'

Maybe I got off lightly compared to some people in here, but Man, I've been to some dark places in the last several years.

I still have days where I want to kill myself.

But I have improved.

 

Why?

Mainly because I realised life is a bit of a bitch, for everyone who's given the chance to live.

This problem I have might suck at times, but another me in a parallel universe has just watched their Mother die of Cancer.

Another me is starving for food and wondering what difference it makes because they're just going to be hungry again after that. They have no education or future.

Another me has to deal with the trauma of being abused as a child. His Mother is an alcoholic and his Father is in prison for murder.

You get the point!! 

 

The more you fight against what's happening, the more resistance and the more stress.

Acceptance is hard. But necessary.

(Once again, I don't mean you accept this for the rest of your life, just as your current reality. It's about realising you can't control everything that goes on, and realising that your body doesn't need any further obstacles, so get out of the way of yourself and do your best to survive each day, finding a purpose for yourself).

 

Since starting College, I've been happier more days.

When I was working full-time in an office job, all I could think was 'This can't be it, surely. This can't be why I'm alive'. 

I'm a deep thinker like that. Others are happy to do whatever and just get drunk and have a good time at the weekends.

I wrote a couple of new songs yesterday and today am off to do the interview with that journalist... well, I think she was mentioned in here.

She's just a student at the moment but wants to talk to me about Accutane. Why not hey?

I'm in the studio recording a new song at the weekend and have a job interview soon, even if it is for somewhere way out of my comfort zone (Waiter/Bar work).

You need things to look forward to like this.

I'm excited to earn money again because I used to waste most of mine on crap that just sits on my shelves.

I want to buy a new guitar, a plane ticket to some place warm, some gig/theatre tickets...

 

You'll be okay...

 

Books I'd recommend (and most self-help books are utter shite) for you: 

1) Feel the fear and do it anyway

2) Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy (the chapter on self-esteem is best and covers most of it)

3) At Last A Life (I'm pretty certain you must suffer from anxiety)

 

Just those three for now. 

Definitely the one's I've gained most insight and help from.

Edited by IndigoRush, 01 March 2013 - 03:23 AM.

[Robert1000]

Hi guys!

 

I tried so many suppliments, no result. Eating healthy with no result. Detox with no result.

 

My eyes get irritated 2-3 times a day, the pain its so big, its a hell. Eye drops doesnt help at all.

 

I lost about 80% of my eyebrows, now i only have few hairs there....looks like shit, there's not sign of new ones growing.

 

On the head, in the temples area, the hair is receidding alot, also in the center of the head.

 

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

 

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

Edited by Robert1000, 01 March 2013 - 09:56 AM.

[Roland1968]

Hi guys!

 

I tried so many suppliments, no result. Eating healthy with no result. Detox with no result.

 

My eyes get irritated 2-3 times a day, the pain its so big, its a hell. Eye drops doesnt help at all.

 

I lost about 80% of my eyebrows, now i only have few hairs there....looks like shit, there's not sign of new ones growing.

 

On the head, in the temples area, the hair is receidding alot, also in the center of the head.

 

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

 

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

 

same here - sometimes I think, there is no help, nor cure. we have to live with it.