Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:12 PM
Planning to try baking soda scrubs on my back and tea tree oil next.
Posted 25 June 2011 - 11:02 PM
I hope the H&S works out for. Like me, it worked at first (Nizoral worked best), but after a few months it stopped working. When I first used it, it was awesome. It cleared my forehead, which I hadnt been able to do in about 1 year. Unfortunately, it stopped working. I alternated between H&S, Nizoral, even tried 2% Ketoconazole, but no dice anymore. Good luck.
Posted 21 October 2011 - 08:15 AM
Thought I would share my story.
Junior year college after returning from vacation abroad, I suddenly got what appeared to be acne for the first time in my life. I also noticed a change in my skin generally, which was now very red and dry after showering. My doctor told me it was acne and recommended using the typical cleaners. Of, course this didn't work and probably made it worse.
After months of frustration, I tried washing my face with bottled water, and surprisingly, it seemed to help. Encouraged, I starting researching what was in my tap water, and found to my horror that the onset of my symptoms matched the exact date of when my cities (San Francisco) water authority switched disinfectants from chlorine to chloramine (a combination of chlorine + ammonia). By this time, the "acne" was pretty bad on my forehead and cheeks and the bottle water only helped a little and was very impractical to begin with.
After moving to NYC (which doesnt use chloramine, hooray!) I noticed that my skin was feeling like its old self again, but I still get bumps and irritation in the areas it was the worst (forehead and cheeks). After seven years of battling this but not completely winning, I was on the verge of breaking down due to the stress it caused on my relationships.
Surfing the web for answers, I stumbled upon this thread a month ago. The symptoms that people described sounded very similar to mine, so I decided to try some of their suggestions. I tried the ZNP bar and tea tree cleanser, and it seems to be working. I started about a month ago, and since them my face is about 70% clear. I have never been diagnosed with PF but I am almost positive this is what I had for all of these years and NOT ACNE (grrrrrrr). Has anyone herd of PF being caused by chloramine? From my research I have not found anything but am 100% positive this is what started the PF for me.
Right now I am happy with the ZNP and tea tree results so far. But I am afraid that the PF will become resistant. I am so sick of dealing with this and just what my life back. I am thinking about trying and oral anti-fungal but dread having to go to the doctors to get a prescription Is it really worth the side effects since from what I read the PF tends to come back after you stop?. However, since Ive had PF for so long (since 2004 ughhh), I am thinking that the yeast is so deep in the follicles that I may need to treat the blood borne causes to get to the root of the problem. Any stories about oral meds would be very much appreciated.
Stay strong guys, a solution is out there
Edited by ethio84, 21 October 2011 - 08:36 AM.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:28 PM
What follows is really detailed - so if you want to skip to the end feel free. But this the actual process and costs, for those looking for that information.
I don't have insurance, so as soon as I got home, I started doing OTC regimens with BP, gygolic acid gel, and more. I made an appointment ($200 out of pocket with an endocrinologist.) I thought my hormones were to blame. She agreed, and said that instead of doing $1000s in tests, to try birth control pills. But she couldn't prescribe them. So I had to go to a 2nd doctor. This was June of 2012.
I went to a gynecologist ($100 out of pocket) -July 2012 - and he gave me birth control pills, Beyaz, which he thought would help my skin. I will say, that within 6 weeks, my face had improved a lot. But I had DAILY migraines. Also, my chest didn't improve at ALL. It would seem to get better, then flare up again, sometimes up through my neck. I was getting frustrated. Every month the pills were $75, I was spending $50 on average in products - I was fed up.
For my face, I started using a Clarisonic Mia ($125), and loved the results. My skin looked pretty good except for the occasional hormonal breakout on my face. It was too harsh for my chest, and made that worse, though.
I read online about PF. I was pretty sure that was what was wrong. I saw some people used OTC yeast infection creams to treat it. Also, I saw the dandruff shampoo recommendations. I tried both, and had some clearing on my chest. I But, not completely. I also tried oil of oregano. That stuff stunk, stung my skin, but in a couple of more weeks I was relatively clear, except that it felt like the bumps and redness were still under my skin and that anything might bring it back out, particularly sweating. I couldn't work out at all. It wasn't perfect, but it was livable.
In October, the headaches from the pill increased to the point I had to switch. I started a new BCP in November, Lo LoEstrin - ($75 for the visit, $75 monthly for the pill) I was nervous that the decreased estrogen would hurt my skin again. So I finally just gave up and realized I would have to go to a dermatologist ($150 for the apt) I went 12/5. She did think I had some acne, and gave me clindamycin topically, and tretinoin- both creams ($100 total more). She didn't think anything yeast related was going on.
My face responded great - particularly to the tretinoin. It makes my skin look brighter, and I've had minimal peeling or effects But it hurt my (clear) chest. On December 16th, I woke up with my chest and neck covered in what seemed like tiny pimples, but on almost every part of my chest. Some were larger, but most were tiny. Some had tiny whiteheads. They were in lines or curving shaped clusters too. I knew this was really weird. It was up to my neck and under my jaw, too. It was a strange red color - but reminded me of the severity and suddenness of the initial breakout in Europe. My dermatologist got me in (another $75) on Tuesday. I wasn't sure if it was an allergic reaction, something new - what.
She took one look at my chest and neck while it was intensely flared up, after have seen me a few weeks before - and knew we had to see what was going on. She scraped the chest and tested it. Yeast was the culprit. I began ketocozanole cream ($45) and 200mg pills ($10) and have had fairly immediate lessening of the redness and rash.
I have spent WELL over $1000 out of pocket to get to this point, but I have some good advice I think to share:
1. You can have some acne AND PF - don't accept that "acne" is all that is going on, especially on the body. PF is less common on the face unless you are REALLY ill. You could have both going on however, so watch and see how it responds.
2. If you think you have PF, don't use anti-bacterial washes on your body, use an anti-dandruff shampoo. It won't hurt and could help.
3. If you aren't opposed to BCPs, they can help hormonal acne
4. A decent dermatologist, especially if you are an established patient, should be open to at least seeing if it is PF. My derm's office is large, and they did the results in five minutes. So if you don't have a doctor, finding one with those capabilites might save you some time and stress.
Moving forward, I am going to do a yeast-elimination diet after the new year. I'm cutting out sugars and starches, which has always helped my skin. I hope to be able to resume exercising, but I am worried about sweating still, even with the treatments I have. I will likely try to add a new exercise to my regimen, like swimming, instead of running - which is really sweaty. And being vigilant about clean towels, clean sheets, everything.
This was a long and painful process. I took some serious hits to my self-esteem. It even affected my relationship. I was embarrassed for my partner to see or touch me. I encourage you, if you can, to go to a doctor. It might take a while to find the right treatment, but once you do, you'll be glad you did.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:29 AM
can someone PLEASE specifically describe pf, appeareance, texture, symptoms. Im a little confused about it and when you look up pics online they always show the most severe cases. Im thinkin this is what I might have. Any pictures would be great. Please respond
Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:21 PM
Hey people! I'm a 30 year old guy who would like to share my story with you and hopefully receive som feedback.
It all started about a month ago. I've always had an oily t-zone but not problem with acne as an adult, although I did have LOTS of small non-scarring acne when I was 14-15. Anyway, I went to the pharmacy to buy a cleanser that might help with my oily face and found one that contains low concentrations of salicylic acid, lactic acid, and glycolic acid. The bottle instructions was to use this twice a day. The first 2-3 days my skin looked AMAZING, perfect smooth and not oily but hydrated. About the forth to fifth day I felt my skin beeing somewhat dry, I had been leaving the clenser on up to a minute in the shower the last 2 days. Around the fifth day I woke up and my forehead was covered with 50-100(!) red small bumps, like a sand paper. The somewhat faded away later in the day, but re-appeard when sweating while working out or showering. The first week I tried 5% BP on half my forehead and nothing on the other half, after two days the BP side was worse so I laid it off. I used nothing for about 5-7 days and it got somewhat better but then it stopped. Now after two weeks have the same type of bumps on my neck chest and back, not as much as on the forehead though. The forehead is not dry anymore and seems oily. I've consulted a dermatologist online that thought it may be PF. So now I'm on my second day of ketokonazole. He also recommended Clotrimazole cram twice a day, which I haven't stared yet as i thought the skin needed to get used to the ketoconazole first. As my forehead is oily and it's easy to squeeze sebum out of non ifected pores in the forehead I'm tempted to quickly and gentle use the cleanser that used and probable set off this condition to help. What do you guys think? Is there a way to upload pictures in this forum?
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 08:03 PM
I created this account to ask if anyone has tried what has always worked well for me. At first sign of breakouts and also some other ailments... respitory infections etc. I take 500-1000mg ascorbic acid, Vitamin C twice daily for several days with plenty of water. Overdose symptom is bitter saliva and/or painful (mild)/burning urination - stop C immediately and drink more water. Also, do not attempt using C supplement w/acerola as it has too low a toxicity w/ worse symptoms. This regimen effectively acidifies tissues, including skin, making them exceedingly inhospitable to any narrow ph thriving bacteria. I generally take 100-500mg daily. for maintenance
Edited by mjacemail1, 20 May 2013 - 08:05 PM.
Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:47 PM
I just wanted to share my experience on here because I'm hoping I can help someone who may be struggling with a situation that was similar to mine. For the past 15 years ( I'm 31 now) I've never had perfectly clear skin. I was always grateful to have never experienced cystic acne or the kind that scars, but I always longed for perfectly clear and smooth skin. I went to a few dermatologists in my early teen years and was diagnosed with "acne" and given various topicals (retin A is one name I remember) and also oral antibiotics. Nothing really worked and even back then something inside of me told me that taking antibiotics wasn't the answer so I remember refusing to take them. Then I tried pro active and it worked really well for a number of years, but I still didn't have perfectly clear skin where I would feel comfortable without wearing make up. It seemed like the problem for me was the texture of my skin (especially the past few years) I had many tiny flesh colored bumps on my forehead and some on the sides of my face and a few along my jaw line. They were pretty much invisible under certain lighting, but under flourescent lighting or sunlight, forget it....it looked horrible and for a very long time I was really self conscious about it. It was like I never knew if people could notice these tiny bumps or not. Like I said, in the right lighting they were pretty much invisible, so it was like I was always wondering if people could see them or not. So only a few short weeks ago I decided I wanted to do something about these bumps once and for all. I started researching like crazy and learned about Pityrosporum Folliculitis and it seemed like this is what I had. Not regular acne, but the kind caused by candida yeast. This made perfect sense because when I was very young I was always on antibiotics. My pediatrician over -prescribed and every time I had a sore throat she would put me on anti biotics even though I never once tested positive for strep. I had never taken a pro biotic in my life and never liked yogurt, so it made perfect and complete sense that I would have a candida overgrowth since all those antibiotics probably destroyed all of the good bacteria in my system. It would also explain why I started "breaking out" very young...I remember being in 4th grade with a few "pimples" - really they were just small red bumps. I truly believe I was misdiagnosed with having regular acne in my teens..although I could have had a combination of both regular acne and pityrosporum follicultiis...maybe thats why the pro activ did help for a number of years. ANYWAY...the amazing news is that I have COMPLETELY CLEAR skin now after only 3 short weeks. It's the most amazing feeling and I actually feel like I am glowing, from the inside out. Here is what I did:
*After reading and learning as much about candida yeast and how an overgrowth can cause acne or acne like bumps, I decided to try the "acne free in 3 days" diet where you eat 10 organic red delicious apples a day plus a gallon of water a day for 3 days. I only lasted 2 days but honestly I feel like it made a HUGE difference in my overall health. It's not for everyone and only you can know if it's right for you, but for me I felt like it was a good cleanse and a way to kick start my new anti- candida regimen. Any one wanting to learn more about the diet just google it, there is a ton of info available online about it. After the 2 day cleanse I changed my diet by cutting out all sugar (candida feast on sugar) and eating more whole foods...lots of veggies, some fruits and some grains. Nothing refined or processed. I started eating poultry again (I was vegetarian for 5 years and deciding to eat some meat again is the best decision I've ever made - I feel SO much stronger, healthier, and have a LOT more energy). I still try and drink a gallon of water a day.
*I oil pull every morning first thing when I wake up ( swishing one table spoon of olive oil in your mouth and spitting it out when it turns from oil to a milky white substance) It sounds gross, but it's not so bad. Theres a lot of info on the internet about oil pulling - it's basically an ancient ayurvedic healing remedy and is supposed to literally pull toxins from your body. It honestly has made my teeth stronger, whiter, and my breath fresher so I know it has to be doing something good!
*Each morning after I oil pull I drink two table spoons of Bragg's organic apple cider vinegar mixed with some water. It has anti- fungal properties and a TON of health benefits and I actually don't mind the taste.
*I take a probiotic once a day and incorporated natural, very low sugar yogurt into my weekly diet.
So the plan was to kill off the candida yeast with the apple cleanse and apple cider vinegar, assist with further detoxifying by oil pulling, and re- populate my gut with good bacteria in the pro- biotics.
Now for the topicals. I went out and bought everything I could find that research said would be helpful. Tee Tree oil, Lotrimin athletes foot cream, and Selson blue anti dandruff shampoo. And i use them all!
I wash my face in the morning and night with purpose gentle facial cleanser. Then I use the Selson blue as a mask...I literally put it all over my face and leave it on for 5 mins and rinse it off. Sometimes I use the tee tree oil on a cotton ball and sometimes I don't. I've been using the Lortimin every single morning and night and sometimes i'll put more on in the afternoon.
It's really about finding what works for you individually, and trusting your own intuition. Maybe one of these things will work for someone or maybe all of them will. I'm going to stick with the diet because I just feel better over all and keep mixing it up with the topicals. The point is that I'm convinced my problem has been fungal the entire time and I had no idea because I was diagnosed with regular acne. I even went to a derm for microdermabrasion before i started all of this and mentioned to him the idea of it being fungal and he sort of brushed me off saying he thought it was regular comedones. I may just go back to him to show him my perfectly clear skin in only 3 short weeks and tell him I was right and he was wrong! It just goes to show that every person is different and it's just about listening to your own body and trusting your own intuition. I'm currently back in college majoring in health studies and thinking about medical school...I feel like there is a need for Dr.'s who really want to help their patients by encouraging more holistic approaches and who recognize that each person is unique and we can really learn to help ourselves by listening to our own bodies!
Hopefully this can provide some insight for someone and be of some help!!
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