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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:54 PM


The soft skin of the neck, for some reason, is particularly sensitive and so it's to be expected that it's going to be the toughest area to clear. It was the same for me. What helped a very great deal for me was ensuring that no material ever came into contact with that part of my neck. Obviously, sometimes I had to wear a shirt and tie, but it was generally the area above the collar line to the jawbone that was most sensitive. Most of my neck acne was, I believe, now, actually contact dermatitis. Even now I can't wear high necked jumpers or coats. Scarves are also completely out. I also can't have bedclothes pulled up under my chin.

Obviously I'm not a doctor and I don't want to offer up trite observations, but looking at your neck photos it's interesting how your neck appears to dramatically flare up just over the space of two days. Even allowing for differences in the light, there is very clearly a marked deterioration. Many years ago, I had a girlfriend with a very similar pattern of lesions on her legs -but this was also in fact dermatitis, she never suffered from acne.

I've read your blog in some detail and I'm interested what dermatologists told you. Were they ever able to offer any insights beyond the standard ones we've all heard?

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:05 PM


Well, I'm 7 weeks in and my progress appears to have stagnated. I guess I jumped the gun a bit with my previous post. I am still getting large painful cysts on my neck. It almost seems like it's good for a few days and feels like it's getting better and then suddenly I'll have some new cysts setting up camp on my neck. Just like before I started this thing. My oil production hasn't gone down any further. I still feel like I've got an oil film on my skin by the end of day. The cysts I am getting now feel much like the ones I was getting before I started the regimen. This is so frustrating....grrr.

Hello! I would try considering sticking it out for the three month period if you can. Acne can remain unnoticed underneath the skin for up to six weeks before finally emerging it's ugly head... THEN it takes up to 3 weeks for it to possibly pop... THEN the healing time can take up to two weeks AS LONG as you didn't pop it, otherwise another spot (or spots) would show up right next to it. Cysts take a while to submerge AND go away, it's different for anyone. My top neck, just underneath my jaw, has more cysts on it than ever, so I have the exact same problem as you. In fact, those spots got so bad and worse that it turned my entire neck red from the inflammation, and that was only three weeks ago. No one saw it in my gallery because only my front face is shown, but I can show you here:

08/24/12
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08/26/12
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08/26/12
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08/28/12
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10/06/12 (Taken today)
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As you can see it still looks bad, but in the long run you MIGHT see improvement if you keep it up until the three month period, then decide what you want to do from there :). Best of luck!!


Thanks for those insights - I haven't stopped anything yet and I will continue. I was just getting a little frustrated so thanks for the encouragement! Your acne does look alot better in the 10/6 picture IMO :)

Edited by darkdivine, 07 October 2012 - 10:05 PM.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:47 PM

The soft skin of the neck, for some reason, is particularly sensitive and so it's to be expected that it's going to be the toughest area to clear. It was the same for me. What helped a very great deal for me was ensuring that no material ever came into contact with that part of my neck. Obviously, sometimes I had to wear a shirt and tie, but it was generally the area above the collar line to the jawbone that was most sensitive. Most of my neck acne was, I believe, now, actually contact dermatitis. Even now I can't wear high necked jumpers or coats. Scarves are also completely out. I also can't have bedclothes pulled up under my chin.

Obviously I'm not a doctor and I don't want to offer up trite observations, but looking at your neck photos it's interesting how your neck appears to dramatically flare up just over the space of two days. Even allowing for differences in the light, there is very clearly a marked deterioration. Many years ago, I had a girlfriend with a very similar pattern of lesions on her legs -but this was also in fact dermatitis, she never suffered from acne.

I've read your blog in some detail and I'm interested what dermatologists told you. Were they ever able to offer any insights beyond the standard ones we've all heard?



I never wear cloth that would rub my neck, not even scarves. At the very least the coats I wear will have hoods that go over my head for winter, but that's pretty much it.

Yes, the redness in my acne and face is always extremely inconsistent. It's never based on a time of day, what I eat, or how long I've slept. I could feel so energetic and happy and have acne bursting all over the place if it really wanted. I was never able to capture the pattern of it all. The two 08/26 pictures were taken at the same time in different lightings, so the camera MIGHT have exaggerated a bit (which is why I took two pics). The first pictures were after a few weeks of juicing I think.

My dermatologists (all 100 of them) have told me that it's just a "severe case of teenage acne" and that I need to take their expensive combinations of creams, ointments, and pills all at the same time for it to go away. Unlike some people, I followed my dermatologists instructions to a tee and was 100 percent clear as long as I had hundreds of dollars stashed away. Those prescriptions were for acne and acne only, not dermatitis, otherwise they wouldn't have worked. I have never has dermatitis. I DO have eczema though, but never on my face, only where I bend my skin (behind the knees, arms, fingers, toes, etc...). My face doesn't bend except my neck, but there was never a rash, only huge acne cysts.

My dermatologists have never offered anything else except to not worry about my health (what I eat, do, etc...), for I was always slim and fit girl with a positive attitude and VERY LARGE cysts and acne for my age... they MAY not have thought that I wasn't hammering down so much coke and pepsi in my youth. If you ask me I find that kind of offensive and stereotypical to other people who may be larger than myself. After reading several books on health in college (I wanted to be a pubic health major), I couldn't help but notice that several extreme lifestyle and diet books (most people know about the paleo diet, gluten free diets, eating clean diets, etc...) all mentioned acne and skin problems clearing up ALONG with the typical weight loss goals that most people face. In acne books alone, they never brought up these finds and always remained skeptical on them, as if they were saying "don't even bother". My dermatologists all acted the same way. I'm not sure whether or not it's the attitude of people today who keep pushing the face that diet and lifestyle doesn't work, or if it's the current and past generations that are really getting that much more stupid. Obviously there was something wrong, but I never questioned it until 3 years ago, and just last year I started trying to get rid of it for good. In fact, when I did, I kept getting calls from my dermatologists offices wondering when I was coming back (they honestly didn't think it would go away).

Yeah, my pictures are weird, but so is my skin. I've told everyone here a thousand times over that I CAN be a very extreem case if I don't do something about it. But I don't have unrealistic expectations, which I think is the number one problem for several current and recent generations.

Edited by TreatAcne, 07 October 2012 - 10:48 PM.

08/20/13: Acne is gone!! Success thread here ---> http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/333646-milk-free-diet-cleared-my-cystic-acne-and/ 

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My Previous Regimen Here: http://www.acne.org/...6-years-try-it/
My FAQ's Are Written Here: http://www.acne.org/...t-day-and-faqs/

My Experiences with Dan's Regimen: http://www.acne.org/...t-acne-regimen/


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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:15 AM

Treat Acne, does your lesions tend to scar? It is great that you are doing things naturally but i recommend that if you are beginning to scar, look into getting medical treatment. Many times people go the extreme with treating acne, either only chemical or only holistic,not finding a middle ground. My cousin had a case of disfiguring acne and refused to treat it, now he's left with bad scarring that he is trying to treat with expensive procedures.

In any event, i admire your patience, i need to develop that.


Good Luck with treatment

I am rotting for you!

It's a rocky road but like everything else in life, there is always a beginning and an end.  Here's to finding my end.

 

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Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:26 AM

Treat Acne, does your lesions tend to scar? It is great that you are doing things naturally but i recommend that if you are beginning to scar, look into getting medical treatment. Many times people go the extreme with treating acne, either only chemical or only holistic,not finding a middle ground. My cousin had a case of disfiguring acne and refused to treat it, now he's left with bad scarring that he is trying to treat with expensive procedures.

In any event, i admire your patience, i need to develop that.


Good Luck with treatment

I am rotting for you!

Hello again! Nice to see you everywhere too :). Keep up the great work, you're regime(s) sound time consuming!!

No, I don't treat my scars. My red marks and scar dents are still lingering around, they haven't faded much. I'm afraid that putting any kind of scaring treatment or chemicals on my face will aggravate my skin and CAUSE acne since I am still extremely active. I feel as though there is no better choice but to leave them alone. I have, however, been putting a little jojoba oil on my skin before bed after washing my face, just to keep the tightness at bay, but it's not necessary. That's as close as I have come to a "facial regime". I have more than enough evidence backed up onto my computer to suggest that you don't have to have any physical regime at all to clear your acne, not even organic/natural products and methods. That's not to say I am not still interested in them... I'm still reading up on everything, but most conclusions are mixed. If I'm not 100 percent sure, I'm not 100 percent doing it.

Thanks so much for asking though... I wish you the best of luck with what you're doing now!! :)

08/20/13: Acne is gone!! Success thread here ---> http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/333646-milk-free-diet-cleared-my-cystic-acne-and/ 

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My Regimen: Dairy, Sugar, Caffeine, and *mostly* Gluten FREE Diet.

My Previous Regimen Here: http://www.acne.org/...6-years-try-it/
My FAQ's Are Written Here: http://www.acne.org/...t-day-and-faqs/

My Experiences with Dan's Regimen: http://www.acne.org/...t-acne-regimen/


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:24 AM

Treat Acne, does your lesions tend to scar? It is great that you are doing things naturally but i recommend that if you are beginning to scar, look into getting medical treatment. Many times people go the extreme with treating acne, either only chemical or only holistic,not finding a middle ground. My cousin had a case of disfiguring acne and refused to treat it, now he's left with bad scarring that he is trying to treat with expensive procedures.

In any event, i admire your patience, i need to develop that.


Good Luck with treatment

I am rotting for you!


I've had a look at your gallery, and I can hardly see your acne. And this is on photos taken a couple of inches from your skin. I wonder whether anyone standing two feet away would even be able to see it. And you say that this is the worst you've ever had it? I'm mystified.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:21 PM


Treat Acne, does your lesions tend to scar? It is great that you are doing things naturally but i recommend that if you are beginning to scar, look into getting medical treatment. Many times people go the extreme with treating acne, either only chemical or only holistic,not finding a middle ground. My cousin had a case of disfiguring acne and refused to treat it, now he's left with bad scarring that he is trying to treat with expensive procedures.

In any event, i admire your patience, i need to develop that.


Good Luck with treatment

I am rotting for you!


I've had a look at your gallery, and I can hardly see your acne. And this is on photos taken a couple of inches from your skin. I wonder whether anyone standing two feet away would even be able to see it. And you say that this is the worst you've ever had it? I'm mystified.


Acne is definitely relative so what may be considered mild for someone may be not so mild for someone else. In any event, the acne that i am getting now is bad for what i am used to (wouldn't expect nor do i even care what other people consider it to be- no offense).

Glad you found your cure though


Treat Acne, does your lesions tend to scar? It is great that you are doing things naturally but i recommend that if you are beginning to scar, look into getting medical treatment. Many times people go the extreme with treating acne, either only chemical or only holistic,not finding a middle ground. My cousin had a case of disfiguring acne and refused to treat it, now he's left with bad scarring that he is trying to treat with expensive procedures.

In any event, i admire your patience, i need to develop that.


Good Luck with treatment

I am rotting for you!

Hello again! Nice to see you everywhere too Posted Image. Keep up the great work, you're regime(s) sound time consuming!!

No, I don't treat my scars. My red marks and scar dents are still lingering around, they haven't faded much. I'm afraid that putting any kind of scaring treatment or chemicals on my face will aggravate my skin and CAUSE acne since I am still extremely active. I feel as though there is no better choice but to leave them alone. I have, however, been putting a little jojoba oil on my skin before bed after washing my face, just to keep the tightness at bay, but it's not necessary. That's as close as I have come to a "facial regime". I have more than enough evidence backed up onto my computer to suggest that you don't have to have any physical regime at all to clear your acne, not even organic/natural products and methods. That's not to say I am not still interested in them... I'm still reading up on everything, but most conclusions are mixed. If I'm not 100 percent sure, I'm not 100 percent doing it.

Thanks so much for asking though... I wish you the best of luck with what you're doing now!! Posted Image


My regimen is not too bad. I pretty much have the diet thing down and im using up my supplements as not to waste them - will not repurchase when i am done. As for skin care- doing nothing for me was a bad idea- even gave it a few months. The topicals while they suck keep my face in a much better state that it would be without it.

Hoping to one day find something that works for me.

Good Luck though girl. You are on the right track and you definitely have the right attitude. I definitely think that diet can improve your health and maybe your acne too. Last question, have you looked into hormonal treatments? I know sometimes with severe acne , hormonal factors can be a big thing.

It's a rocky road but like everything else in life, there is always a beginning and an end.  Here's to finding my end.

 

God is good to me..........more than I deserve.

 

James 1:2-4

Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:21 PM

My regimen is not too bad. I pretty much have the diet thing down and im using up my supplements as not to waste them - will not repurchase when i am done. As for skin care- doing nothing for me was a bad idea- even gave it a few months. The topicals while they suck keep my face in a much better state that it would be without it.

Hoping to one day find something that works for me.

Good Luck though girl. You are on the right track and you definitely have the right attitude. I definitely think that diet can improve your health and maybe your acne too. Last question, have you looked into hormonal treatments? I know sometimes with severe acne , hormonal factors can be a big thing.


No, I have not. I am going completely healthy and natural if this particular regime doesn't completely work around the 6 month stage... but then again I'm going healthy anyway because the more I learn the more I'm not looking back. It's true that some people may NEED hormonal treatments, but I refuse since they hold many possible side effects that I wouldn't dare gamble on. There is no point in doing that, my acne is NOT a big part of my life nor do I care about it THAT much. I have already gambled on hormone pills, shots, and ointments from my dermatologists throughout my youth... the more I do them the harder it will be for me to rewind the damage that was done to me.

I have too many resources that indicate treating your skin with anything is addictive, not actually a good thing. Stopping is the best bet and it's what I'm doing, but I'm ALSO taking care of my lifestyle at the same time at this point. It has already made me feel better, I know it will be MY best bet, but everyone is different when it comes to what they prefer, so your facial regimes may be YOUR best bet :). I'm am completely confident that you are going to find something for you that works, it's just that you need to figure it out yourself since we are all too different to have similar regimes. You ahve a great attitude too, don't ever cancel out the hormone/acne connection either, but just PLEASE be safe.

I aso have other reasons why I looked into the juicing and healthy living methods as well, it's just that I figured I should get rid of the acne first before attending to anything else. Plus it's interesting ^_^.

08/20/13: Acne is gone!! Success thread here ---> http://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/333646-milk-free-diet-cleared-my-cystic-acne-and/ 

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My Previous Regimen Here: http://www.acne.org/...6-years-try-it/
My FAQ's Are Written Here: http://www.acne.org/...t-day-and-faqs/

My Experiences with Dan's Regimen: http://www.acne.org/...t-acne-regimen/


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:57 AM

Just checking in.

Sometimes I wonder if this regime is better suited to older people? I'm 38yo and it's working very well for me.

I've fiddled around with it a bit in that, I don't juice because it's too much hassle for me at present (Mum of two young kids) and I still occasionally consume refined sugar products (albeit infrequently compared to my past habits). I tried adding Zinc for a bit, but noticed my mood fell. I tried adding Magnesium and Coenzyme Q10 but noted some breakouts reappearing.

What seems to be working brilliantly for me is this:

Daily

500mg L-Carnitine first thing in the morning (a little while before breakfast)
1000mg Time-released Pantothenic Acid and 15000iu Vitamin A straight after breakfast.

I'm also taking a 500mg chewable Vitamin C randomly once a day.

Skin is really going great. I still get a small hormonal related breakout with PMT but very manageable. Considering I was just about to start taking Diane(tte) contraceptive again, I'm still seeing this all as a majorly uber-fantistic discovery when I stumbled onto this thread.

My energy levels continue to be increased, which I attribute to the L-Carnitine (and possibly also enhanced by the B5 as they work together).

I've just introduced a good probiotic for general increased well-being but I'm not expecting it to make any difference to my skin, although it would be a bonus!

Anyway, shall continue popping in from time to time for an update.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:41 PM


My regimen is not too bad. I pretty much have the diet thing down and im using up my supplements as not to waste them - will not repurchase when i am done. As for skin care- doing nothing for me was a bad idea- even gave it a few months. The topicals while they suck keep my face in a much better state that it would be without it.

Hoping to one day find something that works for me.

Good Luck though girl. You are on the right track and you definitely have the right attitude. I definitely think that diet can improve your health and maybe your acne too. Last question, have you looked into hormonal treatments? I know sometimes with severe acne , hormonal factors can be a big thing.


No, I have not. I am going completely healthy and natural if this particular regime doesn't completely work around the 6 month stage... but then again I'm going healthy anyway because the more I learn the more I'm not looking back. It's true that some people may NEED hormonal treatments, but I refuse since they hold many possible side effects that I wouldn't dare gamble on. There is no point in doing that, my acne is NOT a big part of my life nor do I care about it THAT much. I have already gambled on hormone pills, shots, and ointments from my dermatologists throughout my youth... the more I do them the harder it will be for me to rewind the damage that was done to me.

I have too many resources that indicate treating your skin with anything is addictive, not actually a good thing. Stopping is the best bet and it's what I'm doing, but I'm ALSO taking care of my lifestyle at the same time at this point. It has already made me feel better, I know it will be MY best bet, but everyone is different when it comes to what they prefer, so your facial regimes may be YOUR best bet Posted Image. I'm am completely confident that you are going to find something for you that works, it's just that you need to figure it out yourself since we are all too different to have similar regimes. You ahve a great attitude too, don't ever cancel out the hormone/acne connection either, but just PLEASE be safe.

I aso have other reasons why I looked into the juicing and healthy living methods as well, it's just that I figured I should get rid of the acne first before attending to anything else. Plus it's interesting Posted Image.


Spoken like a true wise woman! I agree that healthy living is good for overall health - and thank God i am still following along that path. If acne clears as a result - woo hoo!

I believe something will work for all of us, just a matter of finding the right combo. It is great that you don't give acne any attention. I am slowly trying to do the same and when i succeed- damn it feels good!

It's a rocky road but like everything else in life, there is always a beginning and an end.  Here's to finding my end.

 

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Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:11 AM

Hi

Thanks for the valuable information. I bought a juicer a few days ago and started juicing veggies. My favorite combination so far is celery and cucumber. I also like the sweet potato juice.
I am following all the steps you listed apart from taking the B5 supplement. Instead, I added a natural sources of B5 like Avocado to my diet.

My question is since it is time-consuming to clean the juicer considering I do not have a dishwasher, I keep some of the juice in the fridge to use for the following day. Do you think that is a bad thing to do and it should be juiced freshly everyday?

Thanks

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 04:20 AM

Hi

Thanks for the valuable information. I bought a juicer a few days ago and started juicing veggies. My favorite combination so far is celery and cucumber. I also like the sweet potato juice.
I am following all the steps you listed apart from taking the B5 supplement. Instead, I added a natural sources of B5 like Avocado to my diet.

My question is since it is time-consuming to clean the juicer considering I do not have a dishwasher, I keep some of the juice in the fridge to use for the following day. Do you think that is a bad thing to do and it should be juiced freshly everyday?

Thanks


The nutrient content degrades very quickly after juicing. For best results you should freshly juice everyday.

To make cleaning easier, clean the juicer as soon as you've used it, and use a toothbrush. I can clean my juicer in less than five minutes this way.





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Posted 06 November 2012 - 02:37 AM

Hi everyone

Been lurking on this forum for years but rarely post. I have kept a keen eye on this one as I'm 28 years old and still having trouble with persistent moderate acne.

I want to try the juicing ASAP once I buy a good juicer but I have been trying the vitamins/water/less sugar thing since July.

Initially I had good results and having come off oxytetracycline antibiotics in may I was happy for this to manage the remaining few spots that would crop up. Unfortunately since the start of October things have for worse again.

The main reason I am posting is because inhale actually stopped the vitamins after noticing my hair was thinning. I have very thick hair so is not noticeable yet but I'm noticing hair coming out in the shower and when I scratch my head at work etc.

July- September I took the recommend dose from the OP (and I suspect the same brand holland and Barrett).

For October once I'd seen things go down hill I decided to take 1g of B5 with l Carnitine and N acetyl Cysteine (NAC) to see of this would help.

Could those doses really cause hairloss at such low levels? Has this happened to anyone else and will my hair thicken up again?

Any help/ opinions much appreciated. I should add I haven't taken any B complex as I wanted to limit the amount of synthetic supplements. I have now stopped supplements and plan to juice only.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:50 AM

Thomas,

I doubt those amounts of B5 would cause hair loss but as a 28yo male you may have just hit that age where you were destined to start experiencing hair loss anyway. As this regime dries out the skin, it will undoubtedly have the same effect on the hair shaft and so it might move the hair loss date forward a little but I don't think it's something that can stopped indefinitely. 1 in 4 men experience hair loss by 30yo. That's a fairly significant percentage. Just my 2 cents....

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:09 AM

I agree this is a possibility but seems a bit too much of a coincidence to me. MPB doesn't run in my family and I've never given hairloss a second thought since now.

Right now my hair is much dryer than usual and not even necessary to wash it as often as its not getting greasy. It might just be the cold UK winter starting though?

I guess my main questions are:

1) is it possible that the B5 'boosters' we are using like L Carnitie and NAC enhance the good bits of B5 but also the bad side effects?

2) once ceasing these vitamins will the body naturally rebalance with a good varied diet or will I have to take a B complex / multivitamin to replenish the vitamins that have been crowded out?

Thanks for your help

I agree this is a possibility but seems a bit too much of a coincidence to me. MPB doesn't run in my family and I've never given hairloss a second thought since now.

Right now my hair is much dryer than usual and not even necessary to wash it as often as its not getting greasy. It might just be the cold UK winter starting though?

I guess my main questions are:

1) is it possible that the B5 'boosters' we are using like L Carnitie and NAC enhance the good bits of B5 but also the bad side effects?

2) once ceasing these vitamins will the body naturally rebalance with a good varied diet or will I have to take a B complex / multivitamin to replenish the vitamins that have been crowded out?

Thanks for your help

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

Hi again Thomas,

The best way to test it would be to try going off the regime for a month and see what happens with your hair loss. If you're still losing hair after the first month while on a nourishing diet, you could try adding a decent multivit for the second month and see if anything happens. And then I guess you'd have to weigh up how your skin responds versus how your hair responds and make a choice.

I'm not sure if L-carnitine/NAC 'enhance' the effect of 500mg of B5 to be equal to the use of 10+g of B5. I don't know that it works that way. Just that the two supplements work well together in assisting the body's use of Coenzyme A and fat metabolism etc etc. I don't think the O.P. has found this to be the case. I can't recall whether he's stated the condition of his hair...that might be worth going back to read, and ask him, if not.

Good luck!

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 04:29 PM

Once my acne was gone, I returned to eating what I wanted and have had no problems. I can eat the worst junk food and I don't seem to break out anymore. Mind you when I was suffering from the cystic acne I thought I was getting the breakouts from every sugary thing I ate but now that I have clear skin I'm not noticing a connection anymore.


I can somehow relate to this, all the things that were prohibited because of some certain condition, once the problem is gone, I would probably eat them but not to the extent of abusing it, I am afraid that it would cause again another problem.

As what I experience, hydration really helps me in fighting acne and also with the help of some cream and the food I eat. Haven't tried yet the vegetable juice, but I will definetely consider it.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

I agree this is a possibility but seems a bit too much of a coincidence to me. MPB doesn't run in my family and I've never given hairloss a second thought since now.

Right now my hair is much dryer than usual and not even necessary to wash it as often as its not getting greasy. It might just be the cold UK winter starting though?

I guess my main questions are:

1) is it possible that the B5 'boosters' we are using like L Carnitie and NAC enhance the good bits of B5 but also the bad side effects?

2) once ceasing these vitamins will the body naturally rebalance with a good varied diet or will I have to take a B complex / multivitamin to replenish the vitamins that have been crowded out?

Thanks for your help

I agree this is a possibility but seems a bit too much of a coincidence to me. MPB doesn't run in my family and I've never given hairloss a second thought since now.

Right now my hair is much dryer than usual and not even necessary to wash it as often as its not getting greasy. It might just be the cold UK winter starting though?

I guess my main questions are:

1) is it possible that the B5 'boosters' we are using like L Carnitie and NAC enhance the good bits of B5 but also the bad side effects?

2) once ceasing these vitamins will the body naturally rebalance with a good varied diet or will I have to take a B complex / multivitamin to replenish the vitamins that have been crowded out?

Thanks for your help


I wish it was possible to give everyone cast iron guarantees about side effects, but the fact is that it isn't.

In many cases, you guys know just as much about it as me! I'm not a doctor or a research scientist. But I can say that taking 500mg of B5 has not been associated with hair loss in literature I could find. But that's not the same as saying that it can't be.

On a common sense level though, I would say this. There is no point substituting the prison of acne with the prison of worrying about losing your hair. If you consider it to be an issue, then it is an issue, and it's up to you to decide whether that's an element of the treatment you want to consider removing.

If you want to rebalance the B vitamins in your body, you can easily do this through food. Powdered wheat germ is a very good way.

Edited by wingedserpent, 12 November 2012 - 05:53 AM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:31 AM

Does anyone have problems with undigested supplements?


I don't have any problem like this. Have you encountered a situation like this? Maybe you should try another supplement, better yet consult a doctor, maybe there is something wrong with your digestive system.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:55 PM

I started this program last tuesday (election day), and I'm very excited about it. I've already been juicing daily for a month or two and came across this thread using a juicing and acne search. I decided to give this a go due to winged's articulate, considerate, generous post. Can we believe this guy comes back after four year's of clearing his acne? Unbelievable, Wingedserpant, thank you for your generosity and kindness! I am quite concerned however about one poster's experience with hair loss. I'm doing a lot of research on B-5 and hair loss, and in the meantime considering just juicing and sugar abstaining for 3 months to see if I can forgo supplementation. But having bought the supplements, and followed it for nearly a week, it's tempting to just continue with all four parts of the regime. I'll let others know what I find and or decide. Good luck to all!




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