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In the middle of a liver flush now...

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It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

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Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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A 20 year old posted that she flushed 500 stones. I stand by my theory that they weren't in your liver before you drank olive oil and lemon juice.

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A 20 year old posted that she flushed 500 stones. I stand by my theory that they weren't in your liver before you drank olive oil and lemon juice.

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In the middle of a liver flush now...

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See.....? This is the stuff that concerns me. You're 18 years old. Why are you doing a liver flush? What the hell could your liver be congested with? This makes no sense. I'm not ok with this.....teenagers flushing their friggen liver? Why? I could see how us "older" folks might need to do so.....but I agree with Ben on this.....how healthy can this possibly be for such young people? (Or maybe it's just cause I feel really maternal toward Doopie?) :think:


It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

----

Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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(Or maybe it's just cause I feel really maternal toward Doopie?)  :think:

It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

----

Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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Gallbladder and liver stones are one in the same. They are in the same area, so Doopie can pass stones like anyone else no matter what age. We all have them. Some people of course have them worse then others of course and have to get surgery done to remove their gallbladder. My 30 year old friend had to have his removed surgically and his doctor said he was covered with enough stones to fill a small fish bowl.

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accutane has been linked with intestinal/stomach disorders>says it in the pamphlet...but a liver flush? do you really pass little stones on a liver flush??? isn't it just enough to maybe go on a mild fast for a few days eating easily digestible food and supplementing with milk thistle? My bro supports fasting (he's in molecular bio celllat aging research). Also, if your liver enzmes aren't elevated do you really need a liver flush??? I can understand one if you've been doin' some hard livin' and drining but...


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Exactly. My only reason for caring is that I don't think a 14 year old who's starting to get zits needs to believe his liver is congested to hell.

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Today I passed this friendly-looking bug:

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I named her Sarah before I set her free. I didn't have the heart to flush her. :shifty: I think she may be a cousin to the bug that Denise2 passed....which, I suppose, makes us kin........sort of. smile.gif

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yeah, 14 is a bit young.


It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

----

Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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Today I passed this friendly-looking bug:

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It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

----

Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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Today I passed this friendly-looking bug:

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Passing friendly bugs? unsure.gif. Trace needs a checkup, ladies and gentlemen.

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bb_eusa_shifty.gif. Proceed with the anal wasting of friendly bugs, if you must.

It took me a little while to discover

Wolves in sheep coats who pretend to be lovers

Men who lack conscience will even lie to themselves, to themselves

A friend once said, and I found to be true

That everyday people, they lie to God too

So what makes you think, that they won't lie to you

----

Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth

But if I speak wrong then what is it worth?

See what we now know is nothing compared

to the love that was shown when our lives were spared


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Actually, Tracy, some younger people can have liverstones. Every kid who has acne doesn't necessarily have a liver full of them, and I have never said that every kid who has acne is struggling with a congested liver.

However, I can provide no less than a hundred links that specifically state the Native Americans, Mexicans, and white Northern Europeans all have a much higher risk of gallbladder stones. Matter of fact, one link said that 70% of woman in a certain Indian tribe in the southwest had gallbladder stones by age 30.

Now then....I am a mixture of German, Native American, Scotch/Irish.

My great-grandmother was a full Native American. My mother was very olive skinned (quite opposite of me and my brother, who are blonde and green-eyed), as well as my uncles. Almost everyone on that side of my family has bad acne; I mean....almost everyone. One of my second cousins is about 5'11 and could be a model she was so beautiful. When I mentioned that to my cousin, she replied, "Well, I guess you havn't seen her lately because she has terrible acne". I had no idea as I hadn't seen her in a long time.

So what I'm saying is that certain races have a propensity towards stone formation, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that young kids have them. My son has done 3 liverflushes and only passed some stones on one of them, and he is only 11. He also has a propensity towards acne, too, just like everyone else on my mother's side of the family..... bb_icon_rolleyes.gif

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This is from E-Medicine (notice how it even says that it's estimated that 20% of the population has stones, but don't have "symptoms"):

Gallstones

Gallstones Overview

Gallstones are solid particles that form from bile in the gallbladder.

The gallbladder is a small saclike organ in the upper right part of the belly (abdomen), under the liver, just below the front rib cage on the right side.

The gallbladder is part of the biliary system, which includes the liver and the pancreas.

The biliary system, among other functions, produces bile and digestive enzymes.

Bile is a fluid made by the liver to help in the digestion of fats.

It contains several different substances, including cholesterol and bilirubin, a waste product of normal breakdown of blood cells in the liver.

Bile is stored in the gallbladder until needed.

When we eat a high-fat, high-cholesterol meal, the gallbladder contracts and injects bile into the small intestine via a small tube called the common bile duct.

There are 2 types of gallstones: cholesterol stones and pigment stones.

Cholesterol stones are more common in the United States, making up about 80% of all gallstones. They form when there is too much cholesterol in the bile.

Pigment stones form when there is excess bilirubin in the bile.

Gallstones can be any size, from tiny as a grain of sand to large as a golf ball.

Although it is common to have many smaller stones, a single larger stone or any combination of sizes is possible.

If stones are very small, they may form a sludge.

Whether gallstones cause symptoms depends partly on their size and their number.

Gallstones within the gallbladder often cause no problems. If there are many or they are large, they may cause pain when the gallbladder responds to a fatty meal. They also may cause problems if they move out of the gallbladder.

If they block any of the ducts connecting the gallbladder, liver, or pancreas with the intestine, this may lead to serious complications.

Blockage of a duct can cause bile or digestive enzymes to be trapped in the duct.

This can cause inflammation and ultimately severe pain, infection, and organ damage.

If these conditions go untreated, they can even cause death.

Up to 20% of adults in the United States may have gallstones, yet only 1-3% develop symptoms.

Hispanics, Native Americans, and whites of northern European descent are most likely to be at risk for gallstones and medical complications. African Americans are at lower risk.

Gallstones are most common among overweight, middle-aged women.

The elderly and men are more likely to experience more serious complications from gallstones.

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Actually, Tracy, some younger people can have liverstones. Every kid who has acne doesn't necessarily have a liver full of them, and I have never said that every kid who has acne is struggling with a congested liver.

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Tracy: Pictures of autopsied gallbladders and intrahepatic stones show bright green stones; they can form at any time. I have passed bright green, dark green, tan, and white ones. They are soft and mushy and melt at room temperature because they are mostly cholesterol.

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