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Posted 11 June 2013 - 11:30 PM

If you are an adult than there is no point abstaining right now. It's gonna take a few years of abstaining for the hormones to settle down. The only solution now is accutane, retinoid, good diet, yoga, juicing and girl friend. Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on. 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:04 AM

If you are an adult than there is no point abstaining right now. It's gonna take a few years of abstaining for the hormones to settle down. The only solution now is accutane, retinoid, good diet, yoga, juicing and girl friend. Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on. 

 

I will address two things briefly as I'm short on time right now:

 

1. Abstaining it's just one of my tools. I do more than that, as I'm sure others do. Regardless, its about finding what works for you.

 

2. ...."Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on."

 

lol  --> no offense but i found this funny because:

a. It is the opposite. Again, without going into details I'll tell you masturbation (excessive and/or porn induced masturbation) leads to erectile disfunction.

b. even if it leads to "premature ejaculation later on". trust me, NO MAN worries about premature ejaculation as they age.

 

overall, abstaining its a fairly healthy practice. in fact it also enhances your sexual life (you seem worry about performing). Altho in such case I would call it partial abstince.

 

Although I appreciate the first part of your statement, overall it is baseless, misguiding (for someone new), and unhelpful for anyone on this thread.

Feel free to read more on the subject, and only then come back if you want clarifications. As it is, it appears that you are saying "something that you heard somewhere". Try to be more factual based on things you have read from credible sources.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:33 AM

If you are an adult than there is no point abstaining right now. It's gonna take a few years of abstaining for the hormones to settle down. The only solution now is accutane, retinoid, good diet, yoga, juicing and girl friend. Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on. 

 

I will address two things briefly as I'm short on time right now:

 

1. Abstaining it's just one of my tools. I do more than that, as I'm sure others do. Regardless, its about finding what works for you.

 

2. ...."Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on."

 

lol  --> no offense but i found this funny because:

a. It is the opposite. Again, without going into details I'll tell you masturbation (excessive and/or porn induced masturbation) leads to erectile disfunction.

b. even if it leads to "premature ejaculation later on". trust me, NO MAN worries about premature ejaculation as they age.

 

overall, abstaining its a fairly healthy practice. in fact it also enhances your sexual life (you seem worry about performing). Altho in such case I would call it partial abstince.

 

Although I appreciate the first part of your statement, overall it is baseless, misguiding (for someone new), and unhelpful for anyone on this thread.

Feel free to read more on the subject, and only then come back if you want clarifications. As it is, it appears that you are saying "something that you heard somewhere". Try to be more factual based on things you have read from credible sources.

 

I am not against abstination. My point is everyone here seems to abstain for 10-20 days and then jack off which I am not sure will help to get clear in the long run. And if the aim is to clear acne than accutane is the only cure. Everything is a band aid. Than if you are clear having sex is a far better option.  Its either you abstain for a long time or have sex. 


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:32 AM

 

 

 

I am not against abstination. My point is everyone here seems to abstain for 10-20 days and then jack off which I am not sure will help to get clear in the long run. And if the aim is to clear acne than accutane is the only cure. Everything is a band aid. Than if you are clear having sex is a far better option.  Its either you abstain for a long time or have sex. 

Me personally if i knew earlier that porn itself and fapping without ejaculating would still be bad i wouldnt ruin my streak and i would be on 50-55 day right now i know its healthy when done in a month but for addicts like me its not a possible thing i would just get back on the daily fap also i know how to controll my wetdreams ive tested it already and it works only when im horny and thinking about a girl all the time going to bed with a boner and having the need to take a piss every 5 minute (so i dont ever drink water after 21:00 thats the biggest cause to wetdream ) + some depression i get a wetdream otherwise i dont 

 

Day 19 no porn I also noticed that my scars turned "glowing" red i dont know if this is a bad thing or it means they are healing will see in time if i dont screw up 


Edited by acnefacer, 12 June 2013 - 06:25 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

 

 

I am not against abstination. My point is everyone here seems to abstain for 10-20 days and then jack off which I am not sure will help to get clear in the long run. And if the aim is to clear acne than accutane is the only cure. Everything is a band aid. Than if you are clear having sex is a far better option.  Its either you abstain for a long time or have sex. 

 

No.

This was your original point: "Masturbation changes the shape of penis and weakens the penile nerves leading to premature ejaculation/wet dreams which is another challenge you might have to deal with later on"

 

I do not have patience to discuss when people keep on changing their thesis as the argument moves forward. Organize your thoughts first.

Needless to say I completely disagree with your ideas expressed above, but I wont bother diving into the details.

I recognize when someone is not worth my time.

 

Thanks again for your input.

Hope you find something that works for you.



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Posted 14 June 2013 - 02:58 PM

I used some green tea with lemon juice yesterday and it was stinging like hell untill this evening when i took a shower (i did clean it off after half hour of applying it tho it still kept stinging) my pimples became even more red does this mean i have an allergic reaction or that it heals the sht out of them?

 

edit: even after using aloe vera i got that itch aswell but its not as bad as after using green tea with lemon i am really not sure to continue or not using these stuff


Edited by acnefacer, 14 June 2013 - 03:06 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:43 AM

Aloe Vera always gives me a light itch and makes stuff a bit redder for half hour-hour after, that's why I use it at night, but if it goes away after that you can keep using it.

 

Remember with AV to clear that yellow goo that oozes from under the leaf before you squeeze the clear gel out of the leaf.

 

The yellow goo really stings and smells the worst.

 

Day 8 here, I feel like a stallion on steroids.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 03:43 PM

Update - completed 7 days now, 83 to go haha! Currently have no spots for the first time in maybe even a year or year and a half. And also I have tried using pure lemon juice on my skin before, all I can say is they were very painful times. And another thing, Soya had an effect on my skin, for example Soya Crunchies in Protein bars broke me out bad. Hope you guys are still on course for the big 90 :)

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:22 PM

I am not against abstination. My point is everyone here seems to abstain for 10-20 days and then jack off which I am not sure will help to get clear in the long run. And if the aim is to clear acne than accutane is the only cure. Everything is a band aid. Than if you are clear having sex is a far better option.  Its either you abstain for a long time or have sex. 

 

I took accutane for nearly a decade before I discovered orgasms were the cause of my acne. Accutane can be a useful tool, but abstaining is cheaper, safer, more effective, and has ancillary health benefits.

 

I applaud everyone in here who continues to work towards clear skin through this method.



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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:33 PM

Well since i live in that shitty place its really hard to find a normal aloe vera (hardly found aloe vera with tiny leaves) they are so tiny that you cant even take that yellow stuff out becouse you cant see it way too small but anyways in my second use i have no more itches 

 

and also btw im on day 4 i screwed my last 18 streak becouse i got cocky (didnt train or meditate and stared at lots of butts) it was so sensitive that i got a hot picture in my mind that i was about to ejac without even touching it and then it was about to blow and i just ended up watching porn 2 hours without touching building lots of tension and finally let myself do it was a hard fight lol 

now becouse of that im gonna do some 3-4 d max water fasting with only fruits vegs and water becouse i got some nasty big whiteheads  and 2 cysts (that have a risk of scarring) on my cheeks and im sure it will strenghten me more to keep going without mastrubating its risky becouse i might lose some weight but fck if one day i get rid of acne since i have the knowegledge and know how my body gains muscle easily after literally 8-9 years of experimenting experience it wont hurt doing that 

also it might clear some heart problems i have becouse that year i got 3 times that swollen sausage fingers on my right hand that were itching like hell and i also had fatigue when running or doing warmups and then sparring in mma classes and hearing so much that it helps its worth trying 

it was also the most ive gone without porn i swear from probably 10-11 years old(im 18 now) i havent gone more than 5 days without porn i might have gone 7-9 with no fap but the porn was there all the time and even that 5 days of no porn were a rare thing .. like 7 times max in a year i learned alot from those 18 days now im going to try it harder this time untill my hormones adapt to the change


Edited by acnefacer, 15 June 2013 - 11:38 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2013 - 07:15 PM

Day 0
Failed on day 42 lol. I could of went further but I started breaking out pretty bad and it looked like I was on day 1. I've even had better results on another 21 day streak. But I noticed something though, during this streak ive watched porn about 5 times (1-2 hrs each time) an each time I would break out. So really its the porn that's causes the acne. And what has the worst effect on your acne is the time spent watching it before the orgasm. (Or edging) and now I'm starting to think that masturbating is good (If done moderately with no porn)
Cause a while ago I went 32 perfect days no orgasms at all, no porn, no wet dreams. But I still broke out and my skin was crap. Then another time I went 21 days no porn, 2 wet dreams and my skin was really good.
So I'm thinking the time between each wet dream is good way of telling how often you should orgasm. So I'm gonna test out this theory and M
Every two weeks or let the wet dreams take care of it. So don't worry about the wet dreams guys it may just help you. And do not watch porn

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 08:56 PM

yeah I agree....wet dreams take care of it.

 

im gonna say day 7, but im not sure.

Im on a short trip right now so its been piece of cake. Skin looks good (relatively speaking of course )

However, because of this trip my "diet" has been crap.

 

I shall see in a few days if i get any effects. I had dairy and wheat!!!...my two big no-nos!..it had been more than a month since i did that, ....i cant wait to get back to my regular routine, since I feel what im doing is bad.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 02:53 PM

Hello guys, I'm quite familiar with this thread however this is my first time posting.

 

What I find most troubling about this thread/theory is that it truly lacks CONSISTENCY.

 

Is it the porn watching?  Is it the zinc loss?  Is it the raised dht/testosterone?  Is it the ejaculation?  Is it the orgasm?  Is it the guilt?  Is it the sweat?  Is it the stress from forecasting a breakout?  Is is all placebo?

 

If you really want someone levelheaded to take this seriously - please stop throwing around all of these disorganized contentions (and leave them unaddressed) because it makes the regimen VERY difficult to believe and/or follow.

 

I'd like to share my experience as it may reflect these inconsistencies:

 

As a college athlete, I find it very hard to keep girls off my mind.  While I do "get some" on weekends, its difficult stepping into class and NOT thinking about girls everyday.  Clearly, quitting masturbation is the LAST thing I and most guys my age would want to do.

 

If there were a more CONCRETE understanding - this regimen would be tremendously easier to follow and I do so with more adamantly.  

 

I'll explain my frustration with not-fapping and why it hasn't given me the success I've hoped for:

 

I admit to increasing my masturbation habits substantially last summer while I was interning abroad (I lived alone).

My breakouts became unbearable as the end of summer approached and school impended (I was a nervous wreck).  

 

I sought help the first month of classes but antibiotics+seemingly all otc products seemed futile, I resorted to no-fap as I detected a correlation during my summer breakout.

 

I recalled not fapping 2-3 days prior to dates and seeing improved complexion.  

 

In October - I vowed to not fap for at least 2 weeks.  

Immediately I saw my face clear up, however towards the end of week 1 my face broke out TERRIBLY.  I began taking zinc supplements rigorously as the main consensus believed fapping=zincdeficiency= root of skin issues.  

 

Since I broke out even after no-fapping/no-porn for 10 days, I pushed that method aside, went back to masturbating while taking zinc daily.

 

My acne had its up and downs throughout the school year and so I came BACK to no-fap out of desperation.

 

Once more, upon quitting - I would see improvement in 3-5 days, then I would feel stressed, repressed, and see breakouts on days 6-8.  I would typically masturbate once or twice on those days out of discouragement.  I saw a correlation but could not find a way to successfully sustain the results, thus opting to whack off the stress and restart the cycle.

 

Currently, I am on day 16 of No-fap (the longest streak yet).  I saw considerable improvements the first week (with a few breakouts) but have been breaking out badly the past 3-4 days.

 

I HAVE been watching porn here and there to satisfy my fantasies/boredom but I have not ejaculated/masturbated - I'd wet my pants slightly at the most.

 

Over the past 3-4 days however, I have been travelling with my family and have had zero sexual thoughts, yet my skin broke out leading to a new plethora of scars and red marks.

 

 

 

I would really appreciate some sort of input - a possible direction I could follow because I feel I am not quite on track seeing how capricious my "progress" has been.

 

Juxtaposing it to my previous no-fap attempts make me realize I have gone no further my 16-day streak, than my 6-7 day streaks.  Concurrently, I feel a growing innate tension and inexplicable desire to release and clear my mind.

 

I would like a more linear understanding of this masturbation correlation so that I can do it right this time.  What exactly is causing the cystic acne?  Clearly eliminating masturbation doesn't quite to the job.  There are many aspects to masturbation - it is a habit of assorted nature given how personally developed it is.  What aspects of masturbation are my breakouts contingent to?

 

Moving forward, how can I better follow this regimen to see more consistent results?  Should I NOT be watching porn at all?  Why is my face still breaking out in large cysts well over a week past quitting masturbation?  Why is my anxiety even more volatile these days?  I feel a lesser sense of self control since I have no outlet from the amalgamated stress of my career/sports and my persistent acne/mental rigor.  

 

 

 

Please help.. my life is progressing faster than my acne is fading and I cannot afford to keep hiding from opportunities.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

Additionally I've seen people come up with all kinds of methods they themselves swear by:

 

 

Masturbate with no porn, quickly so you won't release as many androgens.

 

Don't masturbate, but porn is fine, because the ejaculation causes acne.

 

Masturbate every other day, and just take zinc every day because zinc def. = acne.

 

Don't masturbate/don't watch porn - feel stressed/repressed.  Stress/anxiety = acne.

 

Masturbate on the 7th day because testosterone goes out of wack the 7th day.

 

Masturbate, but squeeze all the semen out+ wash water with cold water.

 

 

 

 

I also very clean so its not a matter of hygiene or diet.  I regularly exercise, am in great athletic shape and have 3 brothers who have always had perfect skin + also college athletes with typical build. 

 

I don't understand where I went wrong.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:34 PM

I don't understand where I went wrong.

 

You failed to comprehend that everyone is different.

 

What works for me isn't necessarily going to work for you, or anyone else.

 

The only thing you can do is experiment on yourself until you find out what works for you.

 

The first thing I would suggest is to avoid all sexual acts for at least four weeks. Preferably longer. The longer you can 100% abstain, the better chances you have of discovering how much this is actually effecting you. Two weeks is not enough time to accurately measure your body's reaction to these hormone fluctuations.


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Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:57 PM

That was one of my main issues,

 

I'm a 21 year old college student who goes out at least once a week.

 

I'm surrounded by girls my age multiple times a week and its literally impossible to all eliminate sexual thoughts/acts completely from my life.

 

If I were a grown man - thats one thing, but nothings putting out all sexual desire in my system unless I'm neutered.

 

My testosterone has always been somewhat high because I lift at least twice a week but I noticed I got a lot hornier after my summer abroad.  Could sleeping with 5-6 females multiple times in the span of 2 months raise my testosterone and throw my hormones out of balance in the long term?

 

Before that, I was having sex every 2 or 3 weeks or even once a month.



I could understand how masturbating can be an unnatural detriment to health.

 

But I do not believe complete abstinence and avoidance of sexual thoughts/acts is natural at my age.

 

This is another one of my issues with inconsistency, some claim:

 

sex+masturbation+sexy thoughts = acne

 

over/chronic-masturbation = acne

 

 

 

I only believe the latter as I feel humans should naturally be mating in their 20's.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 05:19 PM

I only believe the latter as I feel humans should naturally be mating in their 20's.

 

Then you're going to have to accept that you'll naturally have acne throughout your 20s, if this is indeed what's causing your problem.



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 06:34 PM

If you do want to continue trying this nofap method I'd consider trying to eliminate watching porn all together. That was a reason I couldnt go for a very long without m'bating because I kept watching it. Also theres no need to stop having sexual thoughts - their natural, I'm sure everyone has them. Also, if you want some extra motivation to stop watching porn - go to YourBrainOnPorn, I stumbled across the link for that site in this thread. Good luck, and hope your skin improves!

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 08:57 PM

What I mean to say is I have pretty good self discipline.  I've watched porn and not masturbated and can continue to do so.

 

My question is, is it the arousal of watching porn, seeing girls, hooking up thats raising my hormones and breaking me out?

 

Or is it solely from ejaculation?  Once more - I can 100% quit ejaculating but I've still been breaking out. 



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 10:30 PM

What I mean to say is I have pretty good self discipline.  I've watched porn and not masturbated and can continue to do so.

 

My question is, is it the arousal of watching porn, seeing girls, hooking up thats raising my hormones and breaking me out?

 

Or is it solely from ejaculation?  Once more - I can 100% quit ejaculating but I've still been breaking out. 

For acne prone skin too much ejaculation during puberty doesn't allow for proper development to tackle DHT. Your best bet now will be to go to doctors and a healthy diet


Edited by Binga, 18 June 2013 - 10:47 PM.





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