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#21 snowlily

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 02:58 PM

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what can i say? my skin is great! i mean seriously there r no acne on my face. none. zip. i didn't think tis day would EVER come. i'm sorry to hear tat ur acne is acting up again. btw have u tried birth control? if ur acne getz the worst around ur period then maybe u should get some birth control pills to help tat.
oh and as for my acne scars.... i haven't done anything 2 them and they r fading definitely! i'll probably go out and find tat aveol gel stuff sometime down the rode. anyway when i find time i'll post some current pics of my skin. but yah itz looking great!

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 06:46 PM

Thats great! You lucky penny haha smile.gif The scars will fade in no time! What is your regimen now? tongue.gif

Unfortunately, I have tried birth control and it made my acne worse, besides I dont really feel right messing with my hormones, because it will back fire on me! thier evil hahah -__-.

Anyways, looking forward for the pics and update! Thanks for the suggestion, I'll see about the birth control and other stuff haha.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 07:12 PM

okay so here r my current photo.... lol i kno my face looks flawless but itz cus of the lighting. i still have some DEEP scaring. itz just covered and blurred out by my desk light. lol i took these photos with my web cam so itz not the best quality but u can tell at least tat i don't got acne anymore! i'll post of photos of my scarings tat actually shows my scarings sometime later. and yes i sure hope i'll fade! i'm considering using the clinque dark spot fading thing... but it cost like around $50 for a bottle... so i'm gonna wait a little bit longer and see.
i'm carious... wat does ur skin look like right now? can u post some photos?

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:37 AM

wow snowlily nice pics, looks like the retin a micro really worked for you. i just started it i'm on the 0.4%. Can't wait to get the smooth flawless skin everyone gets from this i'm already seeing improvements

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 12:54 PM

Wow, your skin looks gooooood. It looks like the picture before you used it hehe. I'm happy it worked for you tongue.gif I think scars fade within time, theres a scar fading gel called mederma. You can check it out, it cost about $12? Read reviews! smile.gif I'll post up some pics soon.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 02:34 PM

kk so i bought the scar gel stuff u suggested. i'll tell u about the results after a couple of weeks. i hope it fades my scars! i kno i sound greedy now i mean seriously 2 months ago i would have died for the skin i have now, i mean really if u look at wat my skin looked like 2 months ago ..... yah itz a miracle that it even got this good. so i'm gonna b patient with my scars....

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 11:17 AM

From what I've read and what my dr told me, when you start a treatment like retinoids, you need to use an antibiotic to help with the breakouts. While the retinoids treat you inside out, it's inevitable that you will have IB. Therefore, you need to continue with an antibiotic to prevent and control any breakouts/infections.

I think if snowlily started with both the retinoid and an antibiotic, the IB wouldn't have been so bad?

Experts, what are your thoughts?

I tried to stick with just a single medication, the retinoid, but my dr insisted I need all to efficiently fight acne. Retinoid for treatment, antibiotic for healing/prevention.


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Posted 27 October 2010 - 11:55 AM

Snowlily, do you also have indented scars or just red marks?

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:28 PM

your skin looks great congrats! I am almost on month 4 of retin-a micro use and my skin is finally starting to clear from the IB. I also wish I had been put on antibiotics sooner, I started solodyn 2 weeks ago. I think it really would have helped with the bad breakouts about 2 months back.
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 09:55 PM

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oh i so wish i started on the antibiotics with the retin a! but i have such bad luck tat when my dermatologist told me to come back after 2 weeks for i check up (i think she was gonna give me the antiobitics then) i didn't go. instead i went out of the country for vacation and didn't come back 2 months later. and yes i suffered through 2 months of absolute hell. but i stucked it out and kept on using just the retin a. but i can't say i saw any improvement on my skin wat so ever using just retin a. but after i came back and was put on a oral antibiotic and a gel antibiotic i saw tremendous results after about 1 month. I'm pretty sure my IB wouldn't been tat bad if i had the antibiotics, but if ur gonna start on retin a i suggest you go on some sort of oral antibiotic, b/c if i were you i would. you saw how bad my IB was from the photos, it was not just acne, it was PAINFUL! i hurt to even touch my face! anyway good luck with ur retin a!

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 09:59 PM

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lucky for me the scars are just read marks that is fading slowly....actually i think itz doing pretty well ever since i started using a scar treatment gel the redness is going away faster. although i do have SOME indented scars, although nothing taz very extreme,,,at least not tat i can tell, some of the scars i have look like itz indented by when i run my finger across the skin its a smooth surface, my dr. told me sometimes colors can create the illusion tat the scar is indented when itz really not. so anyways yah i have a few indented scars but mostly just red marks.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 12:29 AM

Do you feel like retin-a has helped with some of the indented scars also?

I'm at month 3,5 on Differin. LOTS of red marks and a few dents... cry.gif

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:10 AM

Thanks for the reply snowlily! Seeing your pictures, it really helps to understand and have faith in how the retinoid will work.

I'm actually on Ziana (which is clindamycin and tretinoin in 1 prescription), but use it every 2 or 3 days. I was pretty consistant in the beginning, but my sensitive skin makes it hard for me to put it on every night unless I want to suffer dry/burning/itchy skin. Currently, I use it every 2 or 3 days, but I apply topical erythromycin daily.

I started August 1st with Ziana, erythromycin, and oral ampicillin 1000mg. Then, I started bcp mid-September. Just last week, I cut down oral antibiotic to 500mg daily. I don't feel so comfortable taking an antibiotic for so long, but my main problem is having to take it with food (routine was a bit tiresome...). Plus, despite not being consistant with my regimen, my skin still improved. I'm hoping it's the bcp. Most people that start bcp seem to be solely dependant on it, and was successful with not using other prescriptions.

Since cutting down, I haven't had a serious reaction/breakout (although, it's only been 2 weeks). But, after seeing how your treatment went and how others reply with similar stories, I'm contemplating whether I should cut down or go full-force for the remainder of my treatment (about 2 months). My skin's improving, but at a rather slow rate...

I hope this will help those considering weaning off some of their drugs.

Snowlily: Are you still on the retinoid? I forget if you said you stopped or not. Have you talked to your dr about getting off it, or are you going to just stick with the routine?

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (Weelassie1984 @ Oct 28 2010, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you feel like retin-a has helped with some of the indented scars also?

I'm at month 3,5 on Differin. LOTS of red marks and a few dents... cry.gif


oh absolutley! I'm on my 6th month on retin a. I saw good results by month 4 and so far had 2 months of absolute acne free face. The red scars r defintely fading. I can tell b/c when I apply foundation I don't need to conceal as much as I use to. I do think retin a is helping with the redscars and plus I'm using a scaring gel in addition to the retain a and acanya gel. The indented scars r still there but really it not tat bad cus itz located on the side of my face where
my hair usually covers it up. And itz a very small indent. So how's diffrin doing 4 u? And how bad r ur indented scars?

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE (juicy788 @ Oct 28 2010, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for the reply snowlily! Seeing your pictures, it really helps to understand and have faith in how the retinoid will work.

I'm actually on Ziana (which is clindamycin and tretinoin in 1 prescription), but use it every 2 or 3 days. I was pretty consistant in the beginning, but my sensitive skin makes it hard for me to put it on every night unless I want to suffer dry/burning/itchy skin. Currently, I use it every 2 or 3 days, but I apply topical erythromycin daily.

I started August 1st with Ziana, erythromycin, and oral ampicillin 1000mg. Then, I started bcp mid-September. Just last week, I cut down oral antibiotic to 500mg daily. I don't feel so comfortable taking an antibiotic for so long, but my main problem is having to take it with food (routine was a bit tiresome...). Plus, despite not being consistant with my regimen, my skin still improved. I'm hoping it's the bcp. Most people that start bcp seem to be solely dependant on it, and was successful with not using other prescriptions.

Since cutting down, I haven't had a serious reaction/breakout (although, it's only been 2 weeks). But, after seeing how your treatment went and how others reply with similar stories, I'm contemplating whether I should cut down or go full-force for the remainder of my treatment (about 2 months). My skin's improving, but at a rather slow rate...

I hope this will help those considering weaning off some of their drugs.

Snowlily: Are you still on the retinoid? I forget if you said you stopped or not. Have you talked to your dr about getting off it, or are you going to just stick with the routine?


yah retiniod really works in a werid way. it makes ur face look like crap at first and then it gets all better. I'm still on the antibiotics, but my dosage is 100mg every 3 days so i don't take one pill every 3 days. I don't mind the antibiotics b/c they don't cause any side effects as long as i take them with food, and taz not a problem for me. yes I am still on the retinioid and i'm also still on the acanya gel. Itz a pain to go through and do the routin everyday day and night of cleaning and puting on the medication, and i have not asked my dr. about going off the drugs. because first of all i'm afraid to see what happends once i go off the drugs, and second I rather do the face routin everyday than to live with acne. I'm probably gonna go off the oral antibiotics very soon as i'm taking it once every 3 days, and eventually i'm gonna stop taking them. I don't think I'll stop with the topical medication though... cus my dr. said thoes can be used for ever even without acne because it will prevent the acne from coming, plus retin a is good for the skin...i think... at least taz wat the dr. told me so i'm gonna just stick with it.
not gonna lie, I use so much crap on my face itz not even funny, but really if taz wat it takes to get clear skin so be it.

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 10:09 AM

Yea, if I know for sure that those 2 or 3 products work, it definitely sounds safe and comforting to stick with it. I mean, the retinoid is supposedly good for anti-aging (although I'm scared of the side effects I've read). The only reason why I'd think of switching is because my skin seems to have a hard time trying to adjust to it because it is very sensitive. Too drying/flakey. I hope the flaking eventually goes away and my face gets less dry after longer use.

Snowlily-What kind of scar gel did your dr prescibe you? Do you think you can describe price, instructed dosage, and short/long term results?

Thanks!

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (snowlily @ Oct 28 2010, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Weelassie1984 @ Oct 28 2010, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you feel like retin-a has helped with some of the indented scars also?

I'm at month 3,5 on Differin. LOTS of red marks and a few dents... cry.gif


oh absolutley! I'm on my 6th month on retin a. I saw good results by month 4 and so far had 2 months of absolute acne free face. The red scars r defintely fading. I can tell b/c when I apply foundation I don't need to conceal as much as I use to. I do think retin a is helping with the redscars and plus I'm using a scaring gel in addition to the retain a and acanya gel. The indented scars r still there but really it not tat bad cus itz located on the side of my face where
my hair usually covers it up. And itz a very small indent. So how's diffrin doing 4 u? And how bad r ur indented scars?

I have less acne than before so thats a good thing but the red marks and dents (not too big but I used to have none...) make me sick to my stomach...

Was there a lot of improvement in your scars between 4 and 6 months on retin a?

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 05:11 PM

juicy788-

Yah i know wat you mean, at first when i used it my face was peeling. I got used to the gel though, but now that the weather is changing my skin is slowly becoming a little dry and red but nothing to the extreme.

i'm using the mederma scar gel, for about a good 3 weeks now i think.... I can't really see a dramatic improvement.... well I take that back, if you look at my before pictures you can see that I had acne all over my face, but i got it the worst on the sides of my cheeks. the acne scars on the center of my cheek are all gone. but there are some pretty noticable scars on the sides of my cheeks where i got the worst IB. the price is around $12, itz not a perscription, you can get it at any drug store. the affects... hum... i've only been using it for 3 weeks so i can't tell but at 1st when i used it it was a little bit drying but nothing to the extreme. the dosage is like 3-4 times a day. and there as not been any extreme side affects.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:55 AM

Hi Snow Lily- sorry if you've answered these questions before, but when did your initial breakout really start to subside? Also are you still on an antibiotic? I'm worried that the RAM will start breaking me out again when I go off the antibiotic I started to take. Thanks! biggrin.gif
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (pinkstarlett @ Oct 31 2010, 06:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Snow Lily- sorry if you've answered these questions before, but when did your initial breakout really start to subside? Also are you still on an antibiotic? I'm worried that the RAM will start breaking me out again when I go off the antibiotic I started to take. Thanks! biggrin.gif



hum.... well my IB really didn't start till the end of the 1st month, and then it was all out IB, but i think it really started to subside at the beginning of month 4, month 2 was the absolute worst, month 3 was pretty bad too, but not as bad as month 2, and by month 4 things were really starting to look good. To be honest i really don't remember how the healing process happen, it wasn't like everyday i woke up i saw improvements... i know is that by month 4 i was getting less and less acne, and by the end of month 4 my face was practically acne free.

I guess you could say I am still on the antibiotics.... kinda,,, i mean i take one 100mg doxycicline every 3 days. So i'm barley getting any, but I guess I am still on it, but I think i'm gonna stop taking it soon.

I know wat you mean by worrying about going off the antibiotics. Taz why I slowly ease myself off the antibiotics. I started off taking 2 pills a day, then i went to 1 pill a day, then I did 1 pill every other day, and then i started doing 1 pill every 3rd day, now i think i'm really to do off it compeltely, i'll let you know how it goes, but I'm pretty sure my acne won't come back cus I've been cutting down the dosage alot and nothing has changed...