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INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(37711,'Hey Maya...I ordered one too. I had been looking at the one made by Dr. Des Fernandez but this one looks awesome considering the price.
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\nI think this will be a good addition to my skin care regimen; and it\'s very cheap! \':D\'',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\nEDIT: Maya is a former moderator but unfortunately no longer posts here.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(38021,'Denise - yes, this one is dirt cheap compared to the Environ one. Having read an article about this, the guy who invented the dermaroller was also the same guy who was a partner with Des Fernandes some time ago, but they had some disagreement and went their seperate ways.
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\nI guess that Environ are using Des Fernandes\'s name.. and bumping up their price.
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\nThis, added to all the other topicals, should be cool to use!',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(38182,'This device sounds interesting. Does anyone know if it helps improve orange peel texture?
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\nthanks',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(38552,'Do you use this once a day or twice a day? :-k
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\n *Misty',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_sigs (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(408,'~ Tamara

You cannot perceive beauty but with a serene mind.
- Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)


Visit My Claravis Journal',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(38633,'amimegirle: Probably once a day since it can be a little irritating to the skin.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(39550,'I received mine today (took 9 days) and will start using it tonight - before applying copper peptide serum and moisteriser.
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\nWill report back.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(39570,'OK - just tried it out - ouch!! hehe - but it was a good kind of ouch (no pain, no gain?) A little stinging took place - I did overdo it though (in my excitement) - the instructions on the web site said 3 passes... I must\'ve done 10! LOL!',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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OK - just tried it out - ouch!! hehe - but it was a good kind of ouch (no pain, no gain?) A little stinging took place - I did overdo it though (in my excitement) - the instructions on the web site said 3 passes... I must\'ve done 10! LOL!

Maya, i hope it will work dermaroller . i am thinking of buying this, too. if you say it worths to buy :-k',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\n *Misty \':-\'',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\nMy face was a little pink today, but nothing that would cause concern - and a little powder covered it up anyway.
\n
\n
\nanimegirle - the dermaroller is not for acne. The doctors one has much bigger needles that will perforate the skin and therefore be similar to a tatoo gun.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\nCan you get retin-a where you are?',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\ncan i get them from pharmacy ? or still continue use collagen cream ?',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\nI can get some retin-a gel.05 for free if you are hard up for cash (I\'ve got some spare lurking around) - send me a PM with your address if that\'s the case.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(39786,'well I have ordered this product but I\'m a little scared. Tiny holes all over my skin.
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\nDoes it hurt A LOT?',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(39878,'user - no, it doesn\'t hurt that much - maybe I was being a little dramatic in my earlier posts \':-\'
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\nYou can do very light passes or really go for it (I am the go for it type!)
\n
\nWhat I did last night was this - patted face with diluted vinegar - used the dermaroller in all directions over my face, going over my cheek and forehead area (where my main scars are) many times. Then I put on retin-a (I only use .25), waited 20 minutes, then put on copper peptide serum followed by a mix of jojoba and emu oil.
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\nI looked pink before I went to bed, but my face looks good this morning - it\'s too early to make comments on the success etc.. but I like the science behind doing this.',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
INSERT INTO ibf_content_cache_posts (`cache_content_id`,`cache_content`,`cache_updated`) VALUES(39891,'I thought CP was meant to go under retin-a? my retin-a gel (isotrex) forms a kinda seal over my face. I was gonna put CP under retin-a when my CP eventually arrives from homepeels, is this wrong?',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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\ndermaroller.de
\nlipoxidil.com',1436196078) ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE cache_content_id=VALUES(cache_content_id),cache_content=VALUES(cache_content),cache_updated=VALUES(cache_updated)
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#21 Denise2

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Posted 22 May 2003 - 12:07 PM

Hey Maya...I ordered one too. I had been looking at the one made by Dr. Des Fernandez but this one looks awesome considering the price.

I think this will be a good addition to my skin care regimen; and it's very cheap! :D

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Posted 23 May 2003 - 12:36 PM

Denise - yes, this one is dirt cheap compared to the Environ one. Having read an article about this, the guy who invented the dermaroller was also the same guy who was a partner with Des Fernandes some time ago, but they had some disagreement and went their seperate ways.

I guess that Environ are using Des Fernandes's name.. and bumping up their price.

This, added to all the other topicals, should be cool to use!
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Posted 24 May 2003 - 02:44 AM

This device sounds interesting. Does anyone know if it helps improve orange peel texture?

thanks

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Posted 25 May 2003 - 09:52 PM

Do you use this once a day or twice a day? :-k

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Posted 26 May 2003 - 08:58 AM

amimegirle: Probably once a day since it can be a little irritating to the skin.
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Posted 29 May 2003 - 06:39 PM

I received mine today (took 9 days) and will start using it tonight - before applying copper peptide serum and moisteriser.

Will report back.
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Posted 29 May 2003 - 07:32 PM

OK - just tried it out - ouch!! hehe - but it was a good kind of ouch (no pain, no gain?) A little stinging took place - I did overdo it though (in my excitement) - the instructions on the web site said 3 passes... I must've done 10! LOL!
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Posted 30 May 2003 - 05:21 AM

:- :) :D :D

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Posted 30 May 2003 - 08:43 AM

OK - just tried it out - ouch!! hehe - but it was a good kind of ouch (no pain, no gain?) A little stinging took place - I did overdo it though (in my excitement) - the instructions on the web site said 3 passes... I must've done 10! LOL!

Maya, i hope it will work dermaroller . i am thinking of buying this, too. if you say it worths to buy :-k

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Posted 30 May 2003 - 09:40 AM

Does anyone have any further information on the acne dermaroller? :-k (The one that is available to Drs only?) I guess I am wondering what the main diff is between the one that we can buy and the Drs only one. :-s Thanks!
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Posted 30 May 2003 - 10:22 AM

Bluerain - I think it is worth buying - I can see how it will work for shallow scarring. There are these tiny needles all over, not enough to piece the skin, but enough to cause some light penetration - so if you then apply scar healing topicals, they should enter the skin much better.

My face was a little pink today, but nothing that would cause concern - and a little powder covered it up anyway.


animegirle - the dermaroller is not for acne. The doctors one has much bigger needles that will perforate the skin and therefore be similar to a tatoo gun.
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Posted 30 May 2003 - 01:58 PM

Maya, i still continue needling. dermaroller and needling will be at the same time or that makes skin wear?

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Posted 30 May 2003 - 02:01 PM

bluerain - I think it's probably better to do the dermaroller 2 weeks after needling - but you can do that everyday to improve the collagen and make things like retin-a or copper peptides penetrate deeper.

Can you get retin-a where you are?
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Posted 30 May 2003 - 02:11 PM

Maya, i didnt use retin-a or copper peptide after needling. i am just using vit a cream, helena rubinstein collagenist cream.
can i get them from pharmacy ? or still continue use collagen cream ?

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Posted 30 May 2003 - 02:27 PM

I suggest you use the retin-a after and before needling - and then 2 weeks after the needling, use the dermaroller everynight and then apply retin-a cream.

I can get some retin-a gel.05 for free if you are hard up for cash (I've got some spare lurking around) - send me a PM with your address if that's the case.
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Posted 30 May 2003 - 03:55 PM

well I have ordered this product but I'm a little scared. Tiny holes all over my skin.

Does it hurt A LOT?

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 12:14 AM

user - no, it doesn't hurt that much - maybe I was being a little dramatic in my earlier posts :-

You can do very light passes or really go for it (I am the go for it type!)

What I did last night was this - patted face with diluted vinegar - used the dermaroller in all directions over my face, going over my cheek and forehead area (where my main scars are) many times. Then I put on retin-a (I only use .25), waited 20 minutes, then put on copper peptide serum followed by a mix of jojoba and emu oil.

I looked pink before I went to bed, but my face looks good this morning - it's too early to make comments on the success etc.. but I like the science behind doing this.
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Posted 31 May 2003 - 02:45 AM

I thought CP was meant to go under retin-a? my retin-a gel (isotrex) forms a kinda seal over my face. I was gonna put CP under retin-a when my CP eventually arrives from homepeels, is this wrong?

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Posted 31 May 2003 - 05:40 AM

user - I suppose you could do that - I find retin-a a little irritating, so applying the CP serum after seems to help soothe it.
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Posted 01 June 2003 - 03:19 AM

Maya, from where did you order dermaroller?
dermaroller.de
lipoxidil.com


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