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Hi all,

I've been following the needling threads with optimism for some time now, but I was just looking at the Scientia derma roller site just now and noticed something very disheartening. Their "Before and After" photos, which at first appear to be really promising, have been clearly altered with airbrushing or something like that. If you look at the photo, for example, of a young Asian girl under the heading "Acne scar removal" she appears to have very prounounced scarring in the left photo, and perfectly smooth skin in the right photo. However, if you take a closer look, it's the same photo. Her strands of hair are even in the exact same place (though the whole photo has been lightened slightly). If the product genuinely worked, presumably they would have hundreds of before and after photos to choose from. Instead, they've posted a fake photo -- that says to me there aren't any good real before and afters. It also indicates the company is not above fraudulent advertising.

I'll try to attach the photo here (though I'm not sure I know how to do that) in case Scientia takes it down after people start realizing its fake.

So disappointing.

-B

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an abundant of fake photo results either due to lighting, makeup, and photo-editing. in my opinion, after dermal rolling for over a year, it is a waste of time and the results is mostly due to swelling, if there is any results, it's very minimal which is why dermal rollers are often used in combination with topical agents because they aren't effective alone.

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Hi all,

I've been following the needling threads with optimism for some time now, but I was just looking at the Scientia derma roller site just now and noticed something very disheartening. Their "Before and After" photos, which at first appear to be really promising, have been clearly altered with airbrushing or something like that. If you look at the photo, for example, of a young Asian girl under the heading "Acne scar removal" she appears to have very prounounced scarring in the left photo, and perfectly smooth skin in the right photo. However, if you take a closer look, it's the same photo. Her strands of hair are even in the exact same place (though the whole photo has been lightened slightly). If the product genuinely worked, presumably they would have hundreds of before and after photos to choose from. Instead, they've posted a fake photo -- that says to me there aren't any good real before and afters. It also indicates the company is not above fraudulent advertising.

I'll try to attach the photo here (though I'm not sure I know how to do that) in case Scientia takes it down after people start realizing its fake.

So disappointing.

-B

You can find some honest supplier elsewhere.

I've posted about those idiots from Scientia before:

See this image:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6848/de...combeforeaf.jpg

BTW, that girl doesn't have scars, that's just active acne, which you should never needle cuz it makes it worse.

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Do you guys know if it's safe to use a .5mm dermaroller over acne? I have white head and some small/medium pustules

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could anyone specify on copper peptide serum, which one do you use, please specify brand, anything else I should use along with that, and how often to roll

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I had fraxel repair done (the one where you're under anesthetic and your face is raw and bloody for a week) once all over and once in just the places with scarring. i have rolling acne scars on both cheeks on the sides of my mouth. for some reason it had 90 percent improvement on one side but the other side was resistant and it looks a little better but still sort of the same. so i've used a 1.5 dermaroller 3 times, 4 weeks apart at this point and i havent seen much improvement in the scars but it also hasnt had enough time to build any collagen. after i did the fraxel the same thing happened. it looked exactly the same but one day after about 6 months i noticed the scarring on one side was just about gone. so its one of those things you cant really rate until you honestly wait months. it does the same thing the fraxel laser did where it destroys columns of scar tissue and your collagen fills it in. you just have to go deep enough. i did the less intense fraxels too but they couldnt go deep enough to get my scar tissue. i would say with most acne scarring use a 1.5. i am planning on using the individual needles in a few days and then i will rest for about two months to see if anything is happening. if you do it too often i would be worried that you might be destroying the improvement you have been making. you really have to be patient. i know it sucks but thats the way it is. i will probably be rolling a couple times a year for the rest of my life, honestly because as we age we naturally lose collagen and if you still have any scar tissue whatsoever its going to pull the skin back down into the pits. if you manage to get rid of every trace of scar tissue then that wont be an issue but im just going to assume its always there and not let up. once its gone i dont want it coming back. but im just telling you all that my fraxel worked on my less resistant side and its the exact same thing as dermaroller. same concept. also, if it doesnt work on you it might just be you and not the dermaroller. some people just have resistant scars.

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When i roll with 1.5 mm I didn't hear the crack sound of scars tissue broken but last week I roll with 2.0 mm with fear in my heart and I hear the cracking sound, 1.5 mm it's too short for me. Des Fernandes start rolling with 3.0 mm size and nobody dies....

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This dermarolling thread is already 9 years old (what!?!) but, in case anyone is searching for dermaroller info check out Sarah Vaughtner's website, Vaughtner Wellness I think. She sells dermarollers, derma stamps and needling tools (even creams, etc). All prices are very reasonable, and she provides tons of straightforward and detailed information as well. I have a .5 dermaroller from her and I use it with my PCA skin, as well as my Rx Differin. It is amazing for smoothing skin texture and hyperpigmentation.


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As of October 2011

Rx: NuvaRing, Spironolactone 50mg/day, Differin .3% gel and Clindamycin wipes as needed.

Sulphur & SA soap, ARCONA raspberry bar

Essential oil of lavender and frankincense, Argan oil

PCA skin A&C serum, Perfecting Protection (sunscreen)

Vitamin C powder

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Makeup: VANISH Miracle skin transformer, Daylight tinted EVERskin, Smashbox halo hydrating powder

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just did a home roll. when youve got little options, you gotta make use of what you got.


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