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Dairy-Acne Link

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i never chose to investigate the dairy-acne link until now. i think ive been in denial all this time. my interest was sparked by this thread about someone who gets oily when eating cheese: http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php?showtopic=25978

i checked out a few websites and this is what i found:

Basically, almost all dermatologists agree that hormones are the driving force behind acne. Everybody pretty much agrees that the male hormone 5 alpha dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is the final molecule that turns on the oil making cells, even in women. The problem is that there are multiple sources of hormones that turn into DHT - some of them are accepted by almost all dermatologists and some are not, at least yet.

http://www.acnehelp.org.uk/dairy.htm

Other scientists, working in Wisconsin USA, Germany, and Scotland (Edinburgh and Glasgow) showed in the early 1970s that milk contains progesterone; that is a product of the cows' pregnancy; and that there are other hormones in the milk of pregnant cows, particularly in the butterfat fraction. Also, it was shown that the enzymes necessary to convert these hormones to DHT are present right in the oil glands themselves.

http://www.acnehelp.org.uk/dairy.htm

Testosterone (an androgen hormone) targets the skin and the sebaceous glands where sebum is produced.  It combines with the enzyme 5alpha-reductase to produce dihydrotestosterone, which stimulates the sebaceous glands to produce increased volumes of sebum.  Sebum is expelled out into the follicular tube.

http://www.skintactix.com/moderate_to_seve...e_treatment.htm

[Are there steroid hormones in cow's milk? The Journal of

Endocrine Reviews in 1992 listed 59 hormones in every sip of

bovine milk (Volume 14, 6):

"Hormones found in cow's milk include: Estradiol, Estriol,

Progesterone, Testosterone, 17-Ketosteroids, Corticosterone,

Vitamin D, insulin-like growth factor, growth hormone,

prolactin, oxytocin..."

In September of 1999 (Volume 140;9), the Journal of

Endocrinology identified two milk hormones that accelerate

sebum production. These growth factors are IGF-I and GH.

The Journal of the American Dietetic Association published a

dairy industry-financed study (Volume 99, no. 10, October

1999) confirming the fact that serum IGF-I levels increase

in milk  drinkers.]

http://www.notmilk.com/andie.txt

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So how come I quit dairy about two months ago and I keep getting so many breakouts?

Life isn't fair and I hate it.

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Cynic - Dairy might not be the only trigger of your acne. You're doing the right thing by isolating foods and seeing their effects on your skin. Your acne may be a result of a variety of factors - many people have found that toxins in the colon and liver can aggravate acne, so you could look into doing colon cleanses and liver flushes, or, if this sounds too drastic, taking some herbs which can purify and cleanse the internal organs, such as:

Chinese bitters Here's the link

Indian Tejaswini Check out the acne section of this website - it's very informative.

Flipside - still lovin' that Rossignol board in your pic!!! biggrin.gif B) You should try some almond milk as a replacement for dairy milk - it is absolutely DELICIOUS!!! :mrgreen:

(although does not have as much calcium or protein)

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Does anyone know if hormones are found in butter?

Since dairy products have 3 parts (carb (lactose), protein, and fat) I'm wondering how the amount of hormones is different when comparing milk, cheese, and butter...

My question really is... Do the hormones (or suspected acne causeing agents) in milk make it through the processing into butter?

It's not that I can't live without butter... but melted on veggies... I do enjoy it.

Another question is what about Whey?? It's highly processed and isolated protein... but does it contain hormones from the milk it was isolated from?

If anyone can find info on this stuff... please share.

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I'm wondering how the amount of hormones is different when comparing milk, cheese, and butter...

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Thanks for the response.

What about turkey, etc? I guess that's classed as poultry = white meat, right?

Also, how about ham, bacon, etc?

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all i gotta say about ham and bacon is that pigs are filthy animals that marinate in their own feces.

turkey is good... i like a good turkey sandwich but now i gotta worry about putting cheese on it.

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But they taste so good...! biggrin.gifrolleyes.gif

Hmm yeah...I hear ya on the cheese thing. I used to have cheese on *everything*, even on its own, loads - big chunks of it just to nibble at! Yum. But no more...

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Hormones....I know for a fact that hormones in food isn't causing acne.

Sex hormones are NOT absorbed in the digestive system, there's a reason

why androgens are injected or applied in cream form on the skin. Hormones

do not survive in the GI tract.


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I'm afraid you're wrong on that one....a recent study came out showing men who concumed soy had altered testosterone levels>also, studies done on mammals from rats to monkeys showed that soy isoflavones altered sexual characteristics and behavior. If hormones got destroyed in the stomach the concept pf birth control pills and any hormone med taken by mouth would not exist. Birth control hormones contain estrogen, progesterone all sex hormones>putting it one the skin is simply another mode of delivery.


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No, they're not...they actually look like little sugar pills. also thyroid meds which are hormones also come in quickly dissolving pills...Bottom line, they end up in the bloodstream,


The warmth of the sun reminds her of the day-she remembers the day when things were going her way-only memories remain-of the way she used to be-She stays home every night and exaggerates her past..all the old photographs were never thrown away-what made her cry-she'll never go back again-the way she used to be


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