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[LoveGreenSmoothies]

Has anyone tried this for candida? Is it safe? I am against raw foods, like fish and dairy products, because I am afraid of getting sick from them, but since this isn't an animal product it *may* be ok in that regard..? I can't seem to find anything that says that it's dangerous....

Raw kraut has a lot of naturally occurring healthy bacteria that you find in yogurts and kefirs.


When we eat unpasteurized sauerkraut we reap the benefits of absorbing an entire ecosystem into our own internal ecosystem. The lactic acid from the sauerkraut creates an environment where the introduced beneficial bacteria can reproduce and in turn create more lactic acid.

Lactic acid also helps digestion at an earlier stage–in our stomach. As we get older, our stomach’s natural secretions of hydrochloric acid decrease. Hydrochloric acid breaks down food so it can be more easily absorbed by the small intestine. It is also the most important defense we have against harmful bacteria and parasites often present in food. Lactic acid can partially compensate for reduced hydrochloric acid.



I may try it, since I think my candida has grown immune to my current regimen.

[venam]

What a coincidence you mention this, I have my first batch of sauerkraut fermenting right now. It has been fermenting since yesterday morning. I got the idea after reading this:

http://www.westonaprice.org/Acne.html and
http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

I plan to eat it before every meal.

As for being candida safe: definitely. I don't know why you are afraid of raw sauerkraut, you eat raw vegetables right? This is the same, just fermented (although you shouldn't wash the leaves).

The only problem I am having right now is managing to create a steady supply of sauerkraut. I don't know how long it is going to take to be completely fermented (sites say from 3 days to 4 weeks), so I guess I will have to check every couple of days and find out. I bought bottling jars where I can store once is done, and refrigerate; is supposed to last a month that way. I don't have an really big container to do it in (I did it in a ceramic crock pot, without heat obviously), so I doubt the amount I am doing right now (2 cabbages, but it really reduces in size) will last too long. I need to find a bigger container and do enough for 2-3 weeks per batch, since it takes some time to ferment.

[LoveGreenSmoothies]

I'm psychic.

You're making your own? Wow, I don't think I could do that. I will buy mine, although that would get expensive.....


How much of it are you going to eat? I haven't seen anything that says what teh portion should be.


I am afraid because it's raw, but I am thinking since it's a vegetable, it may be ok. I don't know....

[venam]

I don't think you should buy it. Because (1) the ones in the store is mostly pasteurized (assuming you live in US). Try to find if it is pasteurized or not. (2) It is gonna cost you money while making your own is going to be dirty cheap (a cabbage head is like 60 cents). Really, is a big difference in price. (3) Is actually pretty fun to make.

I hope mine comes out good, I will take a picture and upload it when is done. My main problem is that I need to get a bigger pot to make it. I am tempted to make it in a big plastic "bucket" type of container, and then bottle it when is done (in glass containers) but I am not sure if I should make it in a plastic container or not (right now I am using a ceramic crock pot).

I am planning on eating it with every meal, 1/2 to 1 cup just before eating. I am also drinking the juice, sounds like a good after-workout thirst quencher (+ all the minerals from the sea salt, adding a couple of drops of lime will make it even tastier). This is why I have a supply problem, I am eating it often so I need to make a batch that will last me 2-3 weeks, so that I get enough time to make another batch.

Even if it doesn't help my acne I am still eating this. I have always liked it, has probiotics, is cheap, and is easy and really fun to make.

[LoveGreenSmoothies]

The one I am buying is not pasteurized and is organic. I have a really amazing health food store nearby. For me, it's easier than making it. You have to ferment it at a certain temp, etc. I can't deal with that. I would worry my temp was off.

Good luck! I would love to be into making it like you are, but I think it seems very tedious!

[venam]

The one I am buying is not pasteurized and is organic. I have a really amazing health food store nearby. For me, it's easier than making it. You have to ferment it at a certain temp, etc. I can't deal with that. I would worry my temp was off.

Good luck! I would love to be into making it like you are, but I think it seems very tedious!

Yeah I understand. I am kind of afraid about the temp since it is kind of cold here (north florida) and I don't use the heater much. Hopefully it will be alright. I'll let you know how it comes out.

[LoveGreenSmoothies]

I got mine! I hope it doesn't make me sick... It looks kind of different from the other kraut, which I eat maybe every few years....Maybe it's even better...


You should get one of those thermometers for the room temp. If your temp is off it really can affect it...that's another reason I just want to buy mine. I like my house pretty warm.

Good luck with your fermenting!

Edited by Anti - Em, 08 February 2010 - 08:59 PM.

[LoveGreenSmoothies]

I forgot to tell you that I got rae pickles too! I had one. It was good!


I also did more research and I am not concerned about getting sick from raw kraut or pickles anymore. It is totally different than raw animal products, which I thought, otherwise I would've never bought them, but I had lingering concerns. Then it hit me. Raw kraut and pickles is like alcohol. They are both fermented, so they don't go bad. It is a natural pasteurization.The only difference is that instead of using the bad things to ferment like alcohol does, the vegetables use the good bacteria. So now I am at ease.

ETA: I ate the sauerkraut and it's good.

Edited by Anti - Em, 08 February 2010 - 10:25 PM.

[ryudoadema]

yeah, raw sauerkraut is the sh**. Not only is it ok for candida, but it's actuaaly good for it because:

A. It helps digest food so there is less for the candida and more nutrients are absorbed for better immunity

B. It is an excellent probiotic, and we all know probiotics fight of candida and other bad organisms

C. Fermenting cabbage also increases it's vitamin C content by 30%

I make my own and it takes about a week if the temp stays near 65ish but can take over a month in colder weather. I find that non-organic cabbage frequently gets yeasty or spoils b4 the good bacteria can take over because of the pesticides and such that they may have.

If you google "sauerkraut kimchi maker" you'll see what I use which works pretty good and it's not expensive I think $20-30 or so.

Also, a couple years ago I touted that same site you checked out at healingnaturally.com because I was seeing good results from it. Now I can honestly say that following that program has healed acne, rosacea AND S.Dermatitis for me and practically everyone who has tried it even though it is for total health overall and heals much worse things. And I've tried just about everything b4hand...

Pce

[White Fox]

Yes, I have started eating sauerkraut myself and even though it's not the most tasty food out there I hope it will help my digestion and get some probiotic effect.

I buy organic Sauerkraut in the store and there's nothing on the bottle saying it's pasturized so I guess it's okay. I don't make it myself, but might in the future.

Edited by White Fox, 08 April 2010 - 09:25 AM.

[hesitation]

I thought fermented stuff was not allowed on the candida diet. I've been avoiding pickles and sauerkraut or that reason, and cuz it gives you gas. Is it normal to get gas from eating them?

[White Fox]

I thought fermented stuff was not allowed on the candida diet. I've been avoiding pickles and sauerkraut or that reason, and cuz it gives you gas. Is it normal to get gas from eating them?

No, from what I've read Sauerkraut should be good on an anti-candida diet since it's contain probiotics. I think it's normal to get gas from all fermented products.

[clc111]

From what I've heard over and over is you should avoid pickled food because vinegar is used. Naturally fermented foods (not pickled) are good because it aids digestion and full of probiotics.

[White Fox]

From what I've heard over and over is you should avoid pickled food because vinegar is used. Naturally fermented foods (not pickled) are good because it aids digestion and full of probiotics.

There's no vinegar in Sauerkraut, just white cabbage and sea salt in the product I buy atleast.

[ryudoadema]

I thought fermented stuff was not allowed on the candida diet. I've been avoiding pickles and sauerkraut or that reason, and cuz it gives you gas. Is it normal to get gas from eating them?

Yes, gas is normal if you have candida or dysbiosis and the fermented food is ACTUALLY fermented and of good quality. It is the same as people who start taking probiotics and get gas at first. It is the unfriendly bugs in your digestive system dying off and releasing carbon dioxide and other gases and byproducts as they do.

[ryudoadema]

Yes, I have started eating sauerkraut myself and even though it's not the most tasty food out there I hope it will help my digestion and get some probiotic effect.

I buy organic Sauerkraut in the store and there's nothing on the bottle saying it's pasturized so I guess it's okay. I don't make it myself, but might in the future.

Can I ask what brand you got? I belong to a yahoo group of thousands who eat good sauerkraur daily and we have written to just about every brand to make sure they were good. I know two that often fool people are Eden's and Bubbie's as they are pasteurized. I can think of Bio-Lacto and another one I can't remember the name of that are good.

[White Fox]

Yes, I have started eating sauerkraut myself and even though it's not the most tasty food out there I hope it will help my digestion and get some probiotic effect.

I buy organic Sauerkraut in the store and there's nothing on the bottle saying it's pasturized so I guess it's okay. I don't make it myself, but might in the future.

Can I ask what brand you got? I belong to a yahoo group of thousands who eat good sauerkraur daily and we have written to just about every brand to make sure they were good. I know two that often fool people are Eden's and Bubbie's as they are pasteurized. I can think of Bio-Lacto and another one I can't remember the name of that are good.

I don't live in the US, but the brand I eat is TERRASANA organic sauerkraut. Do you know anything about this brand? And one more thing, the product isn't kept refrigerated in the store, is it supposed to? If not, should I put it in the fridge after opening?

[ryudoadema]

Yes, I have started eating sauerkraut myself and even though it's not the most tasty food out there I hope it will help my digestion and get some probiotic effect.

I buy organic Sauerkraut in the store and there's nothing on the bottle saying it's pasturized so I guess it's okay. I don't make it myself, but might in the future.

Can I ask what brand you got? I belong to a yahoo group of thousands who eat good sauerkraur daily and we have written to just about every brand to make sure they were good. I know two that often fool people are Eden's and Bubbie's as they are pasteurized. I can think of Bio-Lacto and another one I can't remember the name of that are good.

I don't live in the US, but the brand I eat is TERRASANA organic sauerkraut. Do you know anything about this brand? And one more thing, the product isn't kept refrigerated in the store, is it supposed to? If not, should I put it in the fridge after opening?

There's your hint right there. If it is not refrigerated then it must be pasteurized. If it was raw and unrefrigerated then the bacteria would continue to ferment and produce gases exploding the container. You can still eat it since it has vitamins and no vinegar etc but it will not provide probiotics.

[hesitation]

Is fried sauerkraut a good idea?

[ryudoadema]

Is fried sauerkraut a good idea?

It's okay as long as it was traditionally made sauerkraut (fermented and no vinegar). Heating it like that will kill the probiotics and it will pretty much be as healthy as normal cooked cabbage.