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#501 jmd1568

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 08:58 AM

I also took retin-a over the summer to rid myself of some tiny bumps on my ski, I think they were just clogged pores from the heat and sweat.  Like that woman reported, I got hit with huge pores all over my cheeks and nose, and a bunch of tiny scars and scarred pores.  I had that creeping feeling and itchy feeling on my face as well but I had just started a real job and was googling all kinds of crap about my face at work.  My oil production was exploding and I think honestly the feeling was just the sebaceous glands kicking into 10th gear from my hormones and anxiety. I went on accutane after that because all of those enlarged pores clogged up terribly.  I said that about the oil and itchyness because I don't get it anymore at all, not nearly as much oil anymore obviously.  I am about 2 weeks off accutane.  Still seems like new scars are forming but hard to tell, if I take the flashlight on my iphone and hold it to my cheeks I can see like scattered light pink/purple areas and usually (but not always), a shallow scar forms there.  I guess I probably shouldn't be exposing my face to a light like that?  

What else, uhhhh pores every where for sure however I think I may be improving a tiny bit.  Accutane was irritating my skin and perhaps making it worse to a degree, so a little rest and relaxation has been nice for it.  Ive noticed the past few months that I seem to have rosacea or something.  Any mildly stressful situation and I can feel my cheeks heat up.  All of my pores and tiny scars happen to be in the area that gets red and flames up (cheeks and nose).  Sucks pretty bad, and I definitely have depressing ass days but I havent given up yet.  I am currently using a sulphur wash 1x a day to see if it helps with the (possible) rosacea/face flushing.  I think it has helped a little so far, only used for like 1.5 weeks but they seem to be less frequent.  I throw on lotion with 70 spf in the am and cetaphil after cleansing at night.  I also take this collagen supplement that I bought of gnc online that many people said helped their scars and filled out their face.  Before that I was taking vitamin C supplements because they boost collagen as well. I also take tumeric supplements and some stuff for my stomach orally.  

Wonder if this sounds familiar to any one or anybody has experienced progress?   I was def gonna look at dermastamping and using vitamin C serum later on ( waiting cause of accutane obviously).  Can I start using the vita C serum earlier though?  Should I?  

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:54 AM

I finally ordered a couple Osmosis products. My husband is getting a lot of over time and my birthday is coming up so I asked him to buy them or me :P They are on the way, should be here in a few days. I talked to the founder of the company on Linkedin, told him my story, and he recommended I try Catalyst AC-11 and Clear. He said I should see 30-50% improvment and maybe even more after 3 months. I talked to a woman who had laser damage who said it helped her pitted scarring almost right away so there's got to be something to it. My scars are so shallow that it seems almost any improvement would just about level them out. I also have some discoloration and the Catalyst is supposed to help with that as well. I will let you guys know if it helps me. After having just about no progress these past 8 months I'll take any kind of improvement. Here's hoping.

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Posted 05 August 2015 - 08:37 AM

I finally ordered a couple Osmosis products. My husband is getting a lot of over time and my birthday is coming up so I asked him to buy them or me :P They are on the way, should be here in a few days. I talked to the founder of the company on Linkedin, told him my story, and he recommended I try Catalyst AC-11 and Clear. He said I should see 30-50% improvment and maybe even more after 3 months. I talked to a woman who had laser damage who said it helped her pitted scarring almost right away so there's got to be something to it. My scars are so shallow that it seems almost any improvement would just about level them out. I also have some discoloration and the Catalyst is supposed to help with that as well. I will let you guys know if it helps me. After having just about no progress these past 8 months I'll take any kind of improvement. Here's hoping.

Let us know how that goes. I had looked into their products, but I feel a lot of the reviews on their website and Amazon are sketchy...many of them are exact duplicates, usernames sound very unreal, and there are hardly any bad reviews. Just doesn't seem balanced. Not to mention I heard some of their products stain orange.



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Posted 05 August 2015 - 12:45 PM

I finally ordered a couple Osmosis products. My husband is getting a lot of over time and my birthday is coming up so I asked him to buy them or me :P They are on the way, should be here in a few days. I talked to the founder of the company on Linkedin, told him my story, and he recommended I try Catalyst AC-11 and Clear. He said I should see 30-50% improvment and maybe even more after 3 months. I talked to a woman who had laser damage who said it helped her pitted scarring almost right away so there's got to be something to it. My scars are so shallow that it seems almost any improvement would just about level them out. I also have some discoloration and the Catalyst is supposed to help with that as well. I will let you guys know if it helps me. After having just about no progress these past 8 months I'll take any kind of improvement. Here's hoping.

Let us know how that goes. I had looked into their products, but I feel a lot of the reviews on their website and Amazon are sketchy...many of them are exact duplicates, usernames sound very unreal, and there are hardly any bad reviews. Just doesn't seem balanced. Not to mention I heard some of their products stain orange.

yeah, turns out I hate it. The vit c I guess irritated my skin and made my face burn (still a slight burn, though getting better, even after not using it for a day) and it for sure makes your skin orange/brown when it's on. My skin looked irritaed and pores looked bigger while using it. Wouldn't recommend it, sending it back for a refund. Will just try needling eventually. Fml.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 03:26 AM

Hi.
 
I am very sorry for everyone going through this. It is very stressing and heartbreaking. I am 31 and like a month ago, I started noticing small dent scars forming on my face! I first ignored it, but when it happened more, I started searching on internet, and visiting numerous doctors where I live. The first doctor said it has got to be AMVC. I already searched on internet and never thought that this might be the diagnosis as AMVC seemed harsh. Then another one made me have a biopsy of one of the scars which came out to be "Anetoderma", which is actually the same as AMVC. PERFECT! :(
 
I had (have) absolutely flawless skin. It is my best feature, and I started taking very good care of it once I turned 18, so this happening to me wasn't fair. I always moisture, used sun block and did facial exercise every single day. My skin looks firm and great. So when the scarring happened, I felt like my whole life fell apart. I can't describe the stress I was going through, so I really do understand every one posting about their feeling here. My heart goes out to all of you.
 
But my scarring has stopped a month ago, and I have like 5 very small dent scars, luckily close to where the hair grows, so it's really not obvious. Actually every person I tried to explain never took me seriously. But this forum was the one I found a month ago, and I read it twice. Followed every step, did my research and it has now stopped. I become stressed once in a while that it might come back, but stress do more harm than good. so I wanna share my experience with you guys, and hopefully you get something out of it, although everything I'm going to say has already been discussed.. in a much better way.
 
I have had three of these small scars for about years. Two around my chin, and one on my chest. I remember that there was a big acne on my chest which I popped, and kept popping for the next few days, and when it was gone, it left a scar. The two on my chin, I have no idea how it happened, and they didn't seem to bother me.
 
Before I see the new scars coming, I changed my regime and workout dramatically, so I really have no idea what exactly triggered it, but this is the changes before the scarring:
 
1. I took swimming classes and started using public pool like twice a week. Although I've worked out regularly, the swimming seemed to be very intense and shaped my muscles in no time. I could feel the heat in my face, head and around my ears after every round of swimming (acute inflammation). Swimming is intense, and the big public pool (perfect for longer swimming) wasn't very clean either.
2. I found kombucha mushroom, and started fermenting it myself and drinking a small amount every morning.
3. I started having painful acne on my head where the hair grows, and started using ketokonazol shampoo religiously (although some of the scars happened before I started using the shampoo).
4. I started weight training for bigger booty before my swimming sessions which left my whole thighs and legs acing for the next week (never did this before in my whole life).
5. I used steamed sauna after every swimming session followed by harsh exfoliating (although some of the scars happened before I started exfoliating, but the harsh exfoliation seemed to accelerate the scarring).
6. I ate a whole egg and lots of protein every day for bigger thighs after every workout session.
7. I got back to milk and cereal after like 4 years (I used to be a cereal monster but tried to quit), and were consuming huge amount of low fat milk right before scarring (allergy and inflammation).
 
the swimming and public pool, weight training, eating an egg every single day, kombucha and harsh exfoliating were all new in my life, but I stopped them all and instantly. I started taking a calcium supplement, borage oil in the morning, anti histamine at noon, and one capsule of EPO at night. I stopped working out for now, and never take hot shower. I have cooled down my home temperature and avoid heat as much as possible. Also, I am soaking 10-12 almonds in the water for like 12 hours, peel the skin and grind it in water and drink every morning before breakfast and at night before I go to bed. Moreover, I started using Wheat germ oil for my skin. I also adds a capsule of vitamin E to the oil before applying to my face skin once in a while. The overall texture of my skin has improved a lot, and scarring has stopped.
 
The result of my scar biopsy has mentioned something about chronic inflammation. I've read that egg, milk, exfoliation and heavy workout can initiate inflammation (although workout can improve the chronic inflammation in a long run, it does cause acute inflammation). And that calcium +Vit D, almond and anti-histamine reduce inflammation. I've read that kombucha has anti-inflammatory features, but can't risk taking it at the moment. I really think that it has all being due to internal inflammation which causes autoimmune problems in the body, and an anti-inflammatory regime must be followed.
 
I am planning on going back to my regular workout (will never use public pool for swimming again!), and see what will happen.
Good luck to all of you. Hugs!!

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 09:00 AM

Feeling depressed and hopeless today over this whole thing. I look like shit. My skin just keeps going downhill, when does it end?

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:13 PM

Hey guys,

I was facing some of the same trouble and thought that exfoliators might be the solution to my problem. It actually worked quite well.
Maybe have a look at this article for three good ones: http://lepetitfolie....ng-superheroes/ or google some other recommendations.

Hope it helps!

Best,
Susanne

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:33 PM

Sigh, exfoliating (10% AHA) is what caused my scarring. Recently used vitamin c serum and it made it worse :( I think personally my best bet is to not put anything on my face for a long time.


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