Anybody here use AHA or any other kind of chemical exfoliant? I believe my random scarring is due to use of AHA+ (10% glycolic lotion). I think this because I never had a problem with this &%$@ before I used it, and like 1-2 months after I started using the stuff my skin deteriorated in more ways than one (scars, broken caps, some enlarged pores, splotchy discolored spots, my acne gets more inflammed than it used to, clogged pores spread from chin to cheeks now). I never used retin-a. I never used accutane. I used bp before but that was years ago and I have since developed an allergy to it after my first pregnancy and haven't used it in over 3 years. I posted a thread recently where I explain my situation called "big problem with AHA" or something to that effect. I really think that's what did it for me. I don't think my skin can handle harsh products anymore. My derm did not have an answer for me, but I told her I was pretty sure it was that. She said she thought my scarring would fill in with time because mine is pretty shallow, I sure as Hell hope she was right. it has only been 2.5 months since I stopped using anything harsh on my face and it still looks like Hell, but she said it could take a year at least to heal. I have started washing with either just plain water, or sometimes raw honey, but usually just water. If I absolutely have to exfoliate, I do it extremely lightly with a baby wash cloth. Other than that I try not to mess with my face, in hopes of allowing it to heal from the assault of harsh products I had used in the past. My derm prescribed me retin-a but I won't touch it so I guess I am on my own with my break outs. I told her I was scared to use it. Thinking of seeing my ob/gyn and finally going on hormonal birth control or something because at 26, struggling with my skin since 12, I've f*ckin had it. Having babies and then trying to fix the break outs from it really screwed my skin up big time. Not saying you guys are getting scars for the same reason (AHA), but that's just me. I am not getting any new scars now, thought I did continue to see some new damage (what else to call it?) appear for a little bit after I stopped the lotion. My skin seems to have stabilized for now and I am not getting new scars. My advice is if you are using anything strong or harsh on your face, stop. Baby your skin. If this doesn't apply to you then ignore it, obviously. I am also using MSM powder (drinking it in water) and taking sytemic enzymes. Haven't been doing these things long enough to be able to say if they help, though.
Also what's weird is I had no signs of irritation while using AHA, Just woke up one day, skin was fine, then later that day, looked at my face again to check the status of a particularly bad zit I had, and saw a scar on my cheek that appeared out of nowhere. To be honest, I have been almost suicidal over this. I had SO MUCH anxiety because I didn't know wtf was happening to me. I was panicked I thought, omg, is this going to keep happening? I even started taking Xanax for a while because I wasn't sleeping. My anxiety has passed at this point, and now I am just a depressed mess. Hoping my face will recover from this I feel like I don't want to go out because I feel self concious now. Having a few zits is one thing, but getting random scars and sh*t is a whole other monster. I can deal with zits, I know zits. But scars for no reason? F*ck that. And also the fact that I am literally scared to do anything to my face. I feel like it is fragile and I do get a bit of anxiety when I use any products, which is part of why I stopped using them at all. I have read some posts at the ipl & laser damage support board and saw some people who had random scarring from retin-a, and some people get it from lasers, too. They say it's progressive, they will continue to see damage up to a year or more after laser, which is why iw ould never get laser done on my face. Anyway, I read a lot of that stuff and it seems most of the people who see improvement do just what I am doing: no harsh chemicals, use natural products if any (I use emu oil to moisturize if I have to because it supposed to be healing and help thicken the epidermis), minimal makeup, and washing with plain (preferably purified, not tap) water. It takes a while for skin to heal if it's going to, and you have to be gentle with it. Has anyone here had laser treatments? If so that could also be the cause.
Anyway, sorry for the novel. I have a tendency to just ramble, but yeah, that's my story. I am 99% sure that my problems are all due to the AHA. Possibly that was the straw that broke the camels back, after years of using products to control my break outs. Who knows. All I know is, I am being nice to my face from now on.
Also want to add that the fish oil thing made no difference for me. I have always taken it on and off, and have since taken it regularly since this happened and I didn't get any new scars or anything. For me I am sure it was the chemical exfoliant.
I honestly have not heard of people having indented scars as a result of daily AHA usage, but on the surface itself, AHA is a form of an exfoliant, so it's possible that 10% was too harsh for you, despite you never having any physical reactions. That probably physiologically doesn't make sense, but then again, none of this shit makes sense. Yeah I have heard of people experiencing random scarring after using Retin-A and Epiduo. I personally used Epiduo for 1 month or 2 before stopping but the scarring started 4 months or so after, so I can't tell if my case was related. And I freaked out too over the whole fish oil hubub that was mentioned previously in this thread, but even that....I have no idea how anyone is going to investigate or scientifically prove anything. It's just something you should throw into the back of your mind and not obsess over.
But I am sorry you have experienced this shit as well. I'm here right with you on how much it breaks you apart.
I was wondering if any members here could give an update on this. It sucks that most posters who were in this thread have never come back.
I have searched around and found that it's best to go to what is known as a dermatopathologist as opposed to a dermatologist. The former specializes in the study of cutaneous diseases at a microscopic and molecular level; they also analyze potential causes of skin diseases. Since this supposed "AMVC" occurs from internally, these types of doctors can probably be of better help than a normal dermatologist.
I am scheduled to see a dermatopathologist next Tuesday. I honestly don't know what to expect, but I hope I can at least find an answer, even if it turns out to really be AMVC.
Where do I find one of them? I am on the same boat. I had some deep linear scars on my left jawline.. I thought that's because of cystic acne I had years ago. But sadly no it's apparently AMVC now I am having thin linear scar around my temple area.. I am so depressed because they start out shallow and become deep over time. I don't know what to do and where to find an answer. I thought regimen AHA/BP was causing this now after reading this thread I am unsure and dont know which path to follow... it makes me feel suicidal tbh.
Your best bet is to Google around. Dermatopathologists are hard to find, though. I actually went ahead and re-schedule to see one this coming Monday, so I'll be back to report whatever I find. Hang in there.
I first started getting these 6 months ago on a reasonably high dose of roaccutane.
I'm 34 and have persistent acne. I first took roaccutane 8 years ago for severe acne and it cleared my face completely within a month with no scars.
I honestly was in total shock when this happened the second time. The scars appeared on my cheek as 2 very deep lines. I have never been so distressed and scared as I didn't even have acne here!
Anyway the next week I had pock marks on the other cheek and dents EVERYWHERE!
My dermatologist told me to stop taking roaccutane and use epiduo so I did this and holy crap my face is ruined!
I have dents and scars everywhere.
People who haven't experience facial scarring have no idea what this does to a person. I too have wanted to kill myself. My life literally changed overnight.
I'm not sure what to do now as I still have acne but don't know what treatment to try.
I know I cant live like this
I think that as you get older your skin gets thinner and as the roaccutane also thins the skin you just scar, I feel like I did this
Ugh, yeah Epiduo. I read on YouTube in the comments for a PMD review that a few people encountered random scarring after using Epiduo.
The only thing I have been doing for the past 6 months or so is microneedling. I first tried this back before it started going mainstream, but back back then I only had 2 pockmarks on my cheek and I saw no results after 4 months. Now, my face has gone for the worse by 10x. I have been using the Derminator from OwnDoc and while it is a good device, I haven't seen major improvement in my scarring to be honest. There is some slight noticeable improvement, but I think this thing requires long time usage. I also caution anyone who wishes to try needling to not use any of those electric dermstamp pens sold from Asia. OwnDoc has tested and says that those things cause microtearing in the skin. The funny thing though is that if you research microneedling devices, the majority of spas and clinics now that provide needling service all use those buzzing type of stamp pens. Strange.