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Posted 26 July 2011 - 10:53 PM

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a question.. did you take any antibiotics before all this shit happened? If so, which ones?

Also, regarding the linear scars, to truly see if these are scars, try treating the seborrheic dermatitsi with either a ketacanozle topical, shampoo, corticosteroid (be careful with these) or elidel and see if the scar goes away. I noticed some areas of my face what looked like a scar, was just scaliness/dead skin from seb derm.

Also, please post a photo of your seborrheic dermatitis.


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I have not taken any antibiotics or any medication. Or maybe i have when i got the flu in january. I can't remember. So what do antibiotics have to do with the scarring? Is there a way to reverse it??

In regards to the linear scars, i think i've had it for over a year. I do not have seb derm where the linear scars are. At first i thought it was just a crease from sleeping, but it never went away. I think i have very mild seb derm/perioral derm?? I'm not sure if it's true because i was diagnosed by a normal GP. To be honest I'm not even exactly sure what i have. But i definitely have rosacea and some sort of dermatitis (because i get dry, scaly, bumpy, itchy skin). I'll be seeing another dermatologist next Wednesday, it's very hard to find one i like. Most of them always try to rush things.

*I am getting spontaneous scars which look like large pores connected together. Somewhat forming triangular, rectangular shapes and stretching out to linear scars. I'm very worried because it seems as though the scars are expanding. I had a triangle-shaped scar but now it has connected to another pore forming a rectangle.

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One more thing, do you scar only in areas where you have seborrheic dermatitis? or do the pimples scar regardless if they are on areas of seb derm?


I scar anywhere, regardless of where the seb derm is.

What's worrying me the most are these random scars forming out of nowhere!! I am just hoping these random scars is because of the fish oil, i do not want to live like this for the rest of my life continuously getting scars for no reason. sad.gif

What would you recommend? Just stop the fish oil? Or completely stop all vitamins including the shake? I think the shakes are made out of soybeans etc.

I will post some photos when i figure out how to. Anyone like to help me out?.

I would just like to add - i also started taking vitamin D on and off 3 weeks ago . So some days i would forget and others i would take it. My pores started to enlarge in February and has been since then. What's wrong?!?! sad.gif


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Posted 22 December 2011 - 02:06 PM

What about a multivitamin that has like 60% Vitamin A? - For those of us that took Accutane.

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Posted 23 December 2011 - 09:20 PM

I've been dealing with this issue for about 2 years now. 90% of my scarring came immediately ( within 5 days ) after working out or during extremely hot weather. Nonetheless, I am determine to fine a solutions....

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:50 AM

I've been dealing with this issue for about 2 years now. 90% of my scarring came immediately ( within 5 days ) after working out or during extremely hot weather. Nonetheless, I am determine to fine a solutions....


Maybe I missed this part but . . . what does hot weather and working out have to do with this?

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 12:01 PM

I am bumping this. It is interesting and it has me trippin' out a little.

I just read this entire thread. Wow, this is strange. . . .

I felt like I was being punished while reading that.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:00 AM

So basically take a 24hr anti-histamine (piriton), lots of omega-6, borage, evening primrose, calcium citrate, and GLA. Also, try not to take a whole lot of Vitamin A (such as supplements) – That was a long read.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

needling works great for AMVC scarring as they are typically very shallow--if near Washington,DC area try Lilian Omar at http://www.lbn-tattoo.com/
she's good at it and doesn't charge a fortune ....

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:20 AM

miyuuki

stop the fish oil.

have you taken accutane before?

read up on lamarr's posts. very informative

you can take EPO as its omega 6. the omega 3's are bad for spontaneous scarring

and stop any and all vit A intake

Again, did you take Accutane?

EPO is Evening primrose oil

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

went to Derm today to see what they would say about this new weird "plot-twist" in the Accutane story...
i took Accutane 15 yrs ago and this AMVC stuff is just starting a few months ago...very strange and unexpected. Thought i was done with this stuff but i'm back in it in a big way--ugh.
the doc was clueless as to what-how-why this is happening (as i knew he would be--i just went for the fun of it, fully expecting no solution).
This is still too new of a phenomenon for the derms to get what is really going on. so we're on our own until the medical establishment catches up ....

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:09 PM

to those who are spontaneously scarring

How is your calcium intake like?

What about your vitamin A intake?

Did you take accutane?

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:33 PM

I believe I have some form of AMVC. My problems began either after I used Duac acne gel or after I used the Z Pack antiobiotic pills. Since then, I have been battling terrible skin problems starting with red/pink patches of skin and then after that, my entire face started getting tiny tiny bumps visible in good lighting, and then after that the skin texture mainly on my forehead, front cheeks and chin starting changing and causing spontaneous linear scarring and scarred pores....It's like the skin is so weak. My skin hurts most of the time. I feel strange pricking, tingling, slight sharp pains. It used to be much worse though and the skin was extremely red and tight. I felt intense crawling on my face and slightly on my scalp too. Sometimes on my body as well. I want to know if anyone on this board with AMVC has experienced such sensations? Or no?

My dermatologist found demodex mites through a skin scraping which I demanded because I had an odd hunch that the skin was inflamed from these parasites.

Here is my somewhat theory on what's going on: Antibiotics or certain drugs and factors caused an autoimmune reaction that overpopulated these mites. Basically setting of a demodicosis or rosacea like problem...but a demodectic rosacea. I'm wondering if everyone here with AMVC experiences flushing and has had pink skin before the scarring occured/occurs?

The demodicosis is an overpopulation of these mites on our faces and they breed mainly on the face....and scalp....they love the oily parts of the skin so if you are getting scars in the t zone area...that would make sense too because they are mainly surviving and breeding and bunching together in those areas.

Their bacteria and their overpopulation is causing the skin to be compromised and have a horrible immune reaction created lines, scars, dents, bumps, etc. It's also making the skin weaker that it is susceptible to this kind of trauma happening.

It is possible for the mites to be traveling around the whole body too....I would like to know if anyone on these boards with AMVC has also had some light crawling sensations on their body? Or itching?

These mites can overpopulate so much for some that eczema starts to show up and other skin rashes and problems. AMVC sufferers, demand dermatologists to do biopsies and skin scrapings for these mites and find out the demodex count in your skin also.

I am dealing with these problems too. I have been battling the demodex mites for a long time now and it quite unnerving. So far, I have found a few things that help....being less stressed, not using moisturizer or lotion as this will create more dents and lines because the mites love moisture, not washing the face with water too much, metronidazole pills at 375mg twice a day for 2 weeks was helpful, metorgel, demodex solutions ZZ cream and fumangling day cream with the metrogel 3% in it, a bactericide cleanser, and permethrin. Permethrin seemed to helped a lot with the dents and lines, but I had to stop for fear of the neurotoxicity of it. The sun and sun bathing perhaps also helped.

I have felt strange tingling in my body and slight pangs, but after learning to ignore them, I am not sure whether to say this is a problem anymore. It's possible this was a strung out side effect of the permethrin.

Anyway, I would love to hear back from AMVC people responding to the questions I have asked in this post. That would really help me more.


I've been dealing with this issue for about 2 years now. 90% of my scarring came immediately ( within 5 days ) after working out or during extremely hot weather. Nonetheless, I am determine to fine a solutions....


Maybe I missed this part but . . . what does hot weather and working out have to do with this?


As exhibited by this person, the demodex mite's bacteria increases when moist and hot. They are happier in warm, hot, environments. So if you flush from working out or are in hot weather, they will be happy and your skin may be compromised yet again and start forming scars from the immune reaction and bacteria.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

I believe I have some form of AMVC. My problems began either after I used Duac acne gel or after I used the Z Pack antiobiotic pills. Since then, I have been battling terrible skin problems starting with red/pink patches of skin and then after that, my entire face started getting tiny tiny bumps visible in good lighting, and then after that the skin texture mainly on my forehead, front cheeks and chin starting changing and causing spontaneous linear scarring and scarred pores....It's like the skin is so weak. My skin hurts most of the time. I feel strange pricking, tingling, slight sharp pains. It used to be much worse though and the skin was extremely red and tight. I felt intense crawling on my face and slightly on my scalp too. Sometimes on my body as well. I want to know if anyone on this board with AMVC has experienced such sensations? Or no?

My dermatologist found demodex mites through a skin scraping which I demanded because I had an odd hunch that the skin was inflamed from these parasites.

Here is my somewhat theory on what's going on: Antibiotics or certain drugs and factors caused an autoimmune reaction that overpopulated these mites. Basically setting of a demodicosis or rosacea like problem...but a demodectic rosacea. I'm wondering if everyone here with AMVC experiences flushing and has had pink skin before the scarring occured/occurs?

The demodicosis is an overpopulation of these mites on our faces and they breed mainly on the face....and scalp....they love the oily parts of the skin so if you are getting scars in the t zone area...that would make sense too because they are mainly surviving and breeding and bunching together in those areas.

Their bacteria and their overpopulation is causing the skin to be compromised and have a horrible immune reaction created lines, scars, dents, bumps, etc. It's also making the skin weaker that it is susceptible to this kind of trauma happening.

It is possible for the mites to be traveling around the whole body too....I would like to know if anyone on these boards with AMVC has also had some light crawling sensations on their body? Or itching?

These mites can overpopulate so much for some that eczema starts to show up and other skin rashes and problems. AMVC sufferers, demand dermatologists to do biopsies and skin scrapings for these mites and find out the demodex count in your skin also.

I am dealing with these problems too. I have been battling the demodex mites for a long time now and it quite unnerving. So far, I have found a few things that help....being less stressed, not using moisturizer or lotion as this will create more dents and lines because the mites love moisture, not washing the face with water too much, metronidazole pills at 375mg twice a day for 2 weeks was helpful, metorgel, demodex solutions ZZ cream and fumangling day cream with the metrogel 3% in it, a bactericide cleanser, and permethrin. Permethrin seemed to helped a lot with the dents and lines, but I had to stop for fear of the neurotoxicity of it. The sun and sun bathing perhaps also helped.

I have felt strange tingling in my body and slight pangs, but after learning to ignore them, I am not sure whether to say this is a problem anymore. It's possible this was a strung out side effect of the permethrin.

Anyway, I would love to hear back from AMVC people responding to the questions I have asked in this post. That would really help me more.
 

 


I've been dealing with this issue for about 2 years now. 90% of my scarring came immediately ( within 5 days ) after working out or during extremely hot weather. Nonetheless, I am determine to fine a solutions....


Maybe I missed this part but . . . what does hot weather and working out have to do with this?

 


As exhibited by this person, the demodex mite's bacteria increases when moist and hot. They are happier in warm, hot, environments. So if you flush from working out or are in hot weather, they will be happy and your skin may be compromised yet again and start forming scars from the immune reaction and bacteria.

 

 

I literally read your post several months ago without replying. Two weeks ago, after I started back working out again, I realized portions of your post  were identical to my situation. 1) The scarring started after taking Bactrim 2) Exercising, Sweating, or Heat would cause flushing ( skin redness, tightness, slight burning), which resulted in scarring 2-3 days later). After a long battle simply trying to figure out what was going out, I'm delighted to hear that someone else experienced the same sequence of symptoms. Also, the face that the scarring is isolated on the cheek area makes me believe that it is some form of rosacea also. 


Edited by jay2008, 28 February 2013 - 01:09 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

PLEASE people stop getting crazy...if you see those dark lines you can obviously see that 

the skin close to this line is very new/white... can you observe that ? its like your body is  pushing the old skin to right or left and creating new skin....

the problem is why the body doesnt reject and  exfoliate this skin? maybe because it is fibrotic tissue? 

the same lines have been observed from users of retin a...its like removing partially the hyperpimentation but a line remains and the cells are being acccumulated.

any comments?







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