Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

What a head nurse told me about acne

61 posts in this topic

Hey,

Today I went to get my tb test checked because I'm going to be volunteering in a hospital (it came out negative). While I was there I started talking to the nurse that was treating me and I told her about my skin problems and that I've been looking for ways to get rid of it. What she told me was so simple that it actually made sense.

Lately, I've been thinking of the natural way of treating acne, like doing liver flushes, bowel cleanses and such. I told her about that and asked her opinion. She said that our body naturally does that and that there have been studies that show that those who have done liver flushes and those types of detoxification exercises place an enormous amount of pressure and strain on their insides. Which have been shown to have a negative affect on the person's health in the long run.

I stood there thinking, damn there goes that idea. Then she told me how complex our bodies are and how wonderful they are. For example our cardiovasculary system, which lasts on avergae 90 years, 90 years of pumping the heart and breathing without needing to consciously control it. I never really looked at it that way. She began to tell me that what I needed to do was moderate myself. The amount of protien that you should intake per day is the size of your fist (believe that's what she said). Stay away from the sugars and refined things. Eat plenty of fresh veggies, basically eat everything in moderation and your body should take care of it, of course she also said to treat your acne with creams like Bp while your establishing your diet.

What she was tryint to say is that our body can handle the acne, our body can handle stopping acne, yet there is no one thing that causes acne. E.G. Take B5 because there is an defficiancy of that vitamin and that will cure acne. There are many things that work together that cause acne and if you have your body at tip top shape it will be able to better combat acne.

She said, like many, that acne is really hormonal, but that stress has a lot to do with it sometimes. LONG POST I KNOW SORRY. I'm going to try what she say's to do and we'll see how it works.

El Sol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The amount of protien that you should intake per day is the size of your fist (believe that's what she said).

Life is but a breath. Here is my story...


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
like doing liver flushes, bowel cleanses and such. I told her about that and asked her opinion. She said that our body naturally does that

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Precisely my thoughts, Nico.

I don't mean to sound harsh or rude but the more I hear trained medical professions give these types of explanations, the more I am motivated to start some kind of non-profit agency that exposes this kind of fallacious thinking.

Maybe that nurse should go watch what comes out of people during a colonic. Maybe that nurse hasn't ever seen pics of mucoid plaque.

These doctors and nurses really are just ignorant; I cannot blame them for their stupidity and ignorance because they don't have the proper education. But mucoid plaque, parasites, intrahepatic stones are all PROOF POSITIVE that we do have "toxins" in our bodies, but most of all, they need to come out.

The trained "nurse" giving that type of advice is what made me desperate for answers; it was obvious that derms, doctors, estheticians, etc.....didn't even begin to understand acne or it's root causes.

Diet effects acne in various ways, but if you change your diet, and still have a colon full of toxins, parasites, plaque, etc....then changing your diet and taking vitamins and minerals isn't going to remove it. Same with liverflushing.

But hey....listen to the nurse if you want. When you get all that crud out, you can eat anything you want within reason (just keep your colon and liver clear through maintenance) and nothing will break you out, except for maybe a smattering of blackheads and a few tiny whiteheads, if you are so inclined.

Oh, one more thing. Ask the nurse for studies on liverflushing. How much ya wanna bet there aren't any? The only danger in doing flushes is when someone with a gallbladder and liver packed with stones, and a stone is stuck in the neck of the gallbladder that could possibly cause pancreatitis. This almost is never the case with someone who is young and has acne.

Feel free to go to Curezone and go the liverflush forum and read it for yourself. There are many people who have cured their acne through liverflushing and bowel cleansing.

Also, do a google on mucoid plaque pictures and take that to the nurse and ask her if the person who passed it would be better off with it still in them. The plaque harbors parasites and bacteria; many people pass mucoid plaque with parasites still attached to it. A guy named Raymond at Curezone just reported this.

The problem is that the medical community just assumes that this stuff just automatically flushes out of the body. I am living proof that is NOT true...seeings how I have passed 3 liverflukes, a 6 inch white worm, a 2 inch white worm, and a 1 inch thang with antennas and legs all down the side of the body.

You think I would be better off with all that inside my body? Thank God I had the good sense to look into alternative methods for removing all this gunk out of me; I just literally removed some mucoid plaque 2 weeks ago; I know this stuff is REAL.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here's my question, just what type of milk are they using in these recent studies that say it helps you lose weight, fight heart disease, and colon cancer? Or maybe these are just survey studies, because I recall them saying it probably had to do with the Calcium content. Anyway, all I know is that the milk I used to drink, usually organic, wasn't doing my any favors.

Oh and, the nurse makes a lot of sense, doesn't she? Although if you don't give your body the tools it needs, it can't balance itself. If you are not getting enough fiber, you can't help flush out some of those toxins or releive constipation, for those that unknowingly have that problem. Even animals in the wild know what foods to eat in order to detoxify themselves. They know to eat around most of the poisonous part of leaf, and they know to detoxy regularly just in case. Yet, we're not supposed to do that?


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I am living proof that is NOT true...seeings how I have passed 3 liverflukes, a 6 inch white worm, a 2 inch white worm, and a 1 inch thang with antennas and legs all down the side of the body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bailey: The one inch bug with antennas I got out during a 21 day juice fast about 7 years ago. I passed mucoid plaque then, too.

The liverflukes and worms were stuff I got out while liverflushing, though I was NOT doing any parasite killing at the time. I think all the cleansing and flushing just knocked the boogers out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Really, I just came off of a pretty long MC..and I didn't pass anything like that. Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention. I thought the P&B Shakes were the only way to pass the mucoid plaque.

Anyways, congrats! This gives me the motivation I need to keep going.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
seeings how I have passed 3 liverflukes, a 6 inch white worm, a 2 inch white worm, and a 1 inch thang with antennas and legs all down the side of the body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I saw this program about human parasites and there was this fly that inserts its larvae inside the human scalp. It grows in there and drills a hole in the scalp in order to breath. The woman in the document started to notice a pump in her head and felt something moving inside the pump. She went to the doctor and they put vaseline in the hole so the larvae couldn't breath and it died. There was this huge hole in this women's head and the doctor pulled the larvae out through the hole. It was something like 1.5 inches long. That was probably one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. :eek:


Who wants to be normal? Who wants normal results? We want to be exceptional. Exceptions confirm what is not normal

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is the fly that I was talking about : fly

What kind of a thing was that antenna bug?


Who wants to be normal? Who wants normal results? We want to be exceptional. Exceptions confirm what is not normal

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

can you give me an abbreviated version of the type of liver flushes/bowel flushes you do ? what do you do exactly. i trust you. i don't want to read curezone because it overwhelms me. smile.gif thanks


---------------------

God, give me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,

The courage to change the things I can,

And,

The Wisdom to know the Difference....

Peace..

Guardedly Optimistic


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

LOL, in terms of eliminating parasites, no that poor woman could have done a million liver flushes and that worm would have still been there.

It's called a liver flush because it flushes your liver. Not your heart, or your brain, and therefore flukes and other bugs, that are living within you will have to be eliminated via antiparasititic prescriptions, herbs, and foods.


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The trained "nurse" giving that type of advice is what made me desperate for answers; it was obvious that derms, doctors, estheticians, etc.....didn't even begin to understand acne or it's root causes.

The evilest thing God ever did was give ME facial hair.


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Hmm, trust someone who studied anatomy and physiology at Harvard for 8+ years, or some hick know-it-all who writes books about acne's last solutions to get rich off of people desperate to seek "unique solutions"? Hmmm...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Many of us, myself included, DID ALL OF THAT. None of that cured my acne. A series of liverflushes and 3 colonics did what the medical community tried to do for ALMOST 30 YEARS. I started breaking out when I was 11 and I am 39.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Denise,

If you really want to cure your acne, please read this site:

www.freeacnebook.com

I would recommend it to people who desperately want to get rid of their acne.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

so you think the "Wai" diet is completly insane or something?

I agree, to a certain degree such a diet is impossible to maintain.

However, if your desperate to rid your acne, it does work.

The main reason for following the "strict diet" is to clear your acne, to eliminate it by eating foods that don't cause acne. Once you are clear then you can start experimenting with other foods, cooked foods, deserts, meats and see how it effects your skin.

But unhealthy... I think not Kweller! Thanks to this diet, I can finally sleep and I always have energy. I feel so happy, however there are some adjustments, but it is worth a try if you want to rid your acne? But then again, that is just my results.

BenKweller, do you have any credentials?

What about the diet is so unhealthy?

I'm interested in your idea of a healthy diet.

If you have read her site, you would see all the reference and science behind her diet. It makes sense. But you need to read it FIRST!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Bailey:  The one inch bug with antennas I got out during a 21 day juice fast about 7 years ago.  I passed mucoid plaque then, too.

The liverflukes and worms were stuff I got out while liverflushing, though I was NOT doing any parasite killing at the time.  I think all the cleansing and flushing just knocked the boogers out.


"Love heals all"

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not."- Kurt Cobain

"Nothing in this world is more dangerous that sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hobo: I have cured my acne and can eat anything I want now without breaking out, but thanks so much for your help.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
This is scary.   How do these liver flukes and parasites actually get inside the body?

Who wants to be normal? Who wants normal results? We want to be exceptional. Exceptions confirm what is not normal

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Parasite eggs are microscopic; you cannot see them. You can ingest them through food for sure; particularly fruits and veggies. However, pet owners should be aware that they have a higher risk of contracting parasites because of the contact they have with their animals; I mean...come on. Boy dogs lick their (ahem) boy parts, and then lick their owner in the mouth.... :eek: :blink: :ph34r: :sick::shifty:

If your immune system is working top-notch, you can usually avoid a full-scale parasite infestation; however, if it's been compromised, particularly through anitbiotic abuse, then you can be targeted. shock.gif

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites