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Posted 05 July 2010 - 06:45 AM

True everyone is different. My skins seems to take longer than others to heal which is why I am not doing retin a at all. I am healing just fine! Just a few grid dots left!!!! smile.gif

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 12:19 PM

Wow! You seem to be healing fast. Did your grid marks stay on shorter or longer this time? Did you have the same type of reaction to this treatment that you did to your last?

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 06:56 PM

I still have grid marks and am very itchy. My neck is healing faster this time, but I think she might have gone lower. I am on day 5 and it seems about the same amount of time:) My skin still feels like sandpaper though.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:13 PM

Hello all!

I'm going to do my best to inform y'all of my 2nd treatment and at the same time answer some of the questions that were posted. (I'm posting this information here and in the Light/Laser Forum) I apologize in advance if I'm unable to answer the questions to your satisfaction, but I check this thread regularly during my post-treatment healing and I'll be posting every day for the 1st week. PLEASE feel free to ask questions or offer advice and it seems we all need accurate, first hand accounts of the eMatrix treatment.

I'm back from my 2nd eMatrix Sublative Rejuvenation treatment. My last treatment was over 4 weeks ago, which was actually one week longer than recommended, but necessary due to a business trip I had to take. Jessica, my aesthetician, greeted me and then gave me the once over. She asked if I had seen any difference and I told her I felt there had been some nominal improvement, but I didn't know if that was just because I WANTED there to be improvement. She started checking my closely and got a big smile on her face. She said, "I do see improvement!" I laughed and asked if she was just trying to con me out of more money for additional treatments! Any hoo, I really like her and she has proven to be caring and take the time to answer all my questions and give me honest answers.

We went up to a more aggressive treatment level this time. My 1st was done at Level B, Treatment 2 (48 mj) and today's was Level C, Treatment 2 (not sure of the exact microjoule setting, but I'm going to try and look for it). If you've read my prior posts, you'll understand why we started more conservatively.

Protocol was the same, she removed my makeup, cleaned my face w/ the Clairsonic, applied topical numbing cream, brought me a water (did I mention how awesome I think the clinic and staff are smile.gif ) and chatted w/ me while the cream took effect.

We looked at my photos from my 1st procedure and compared those w/ the ones I emailed to her on day 3 post treatment. She removed the cream after 30 minutes, snapped new photos and we were on our way.

The treatment lasted approx 10 minutes. She again only did my cheeks where I have some mild scarring (cost: $250 total). She stacked the tx. in a couple of spots on each cheek (Not directly on top of an already treated spot, but slightly off center of the original "stamp" to provide a tighter grid work and perhaps fill in a couple places where there wasn't skin contact) It's important to make sure the grid stamps and kept uniform and tightly spaced together. This is precisely what she does.

She applied sunscreen and snapped a couple more post-treatment photos. She warned I would be a little redder this time due to a more aggressive treatment level. I'm to email more photos on Thursday and I know she'll call me tomorrow to check on me.

As far as questions about the grid marks/oozing/recovery time, I covered that in my prior posts. I only had oozing in a few tiny areas the 1st night of my treatment and since you can't wash your face the 1st night, it didn't come off until my morning shower. The tiny (and I do mean tiny) grid mark scabs were barely noticeable under the pressed powder makeup I was able to wear the day after my treatment. I chose not to wear makeup if I was home, but did apply pressed mineral powder to my face when I took my children to the movies 3 days after and no one gave me any wacky looks. I had a friend stop by my house the 2nd day after treatment and she commented that I didn't look bad at all. I only had on some eye makeup at the time, but I still had slight swelling and redness. Not much different than a sunburned appearance.

As far as other makeup goes, I was told not to use any liquid makeup (foundation or concealers) until all the scabs had flaked off. I was diligent with that as I was told it could cause additional break outs. I only used pressed powder until the weekend because most of my flakes were off by Friday night (treatment was Monday morning). I use Physician's Formula pressed mineral powder in Natural and it works like a dream covering up redness. I'm considered a Fitz 2-3. I tan easily, but have been avoiding the sun like the devil himself and I'm now rather fair.

Jessica told me that since my skin responded well to the initial treatment I can use an exfoliating scrub she gave me for use on Friday to help slough off any stubborn scabbies. However, that is only because she is familiar with my skin and my treatment plan. I wouldn't recommend anyone else do this without prior consultation with their provider. This is just based on hers and my experience w/ my treatment and my skin's response.

I've had NO pain, itchiness, tightness or any other adverse reactions thus far. My face has swelled as the day has progressed (treatment at 11 am, currently 9 pm) and the redness is a touch more pronounced, but nothing that would scare small children and pets.

Well, that's pretty much day 1 of treatment 2 in a nutshell. I'll be back to post updates tomorrow for the curious folks out there. Hope this helps, and as always God Bless! eusa_angel.gif

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Posted 20 July 2010 - 09:49 PM

Treatment 2, Day 2 update:

Sorry for the delay. I just purchased a children's boutique and I've been up there working all night.

I have to say I'm not having as much swelling or redness as I did with my 1st treatment. I had a bit of clear scabbing that rinsed off with my morning shower. I washed w/ Cetaphil, applied my sunscreen and balm and went ahead and wore a little bit of mineral pressed powder today as I had to be out and about all day.

I love the swelling, in that it makes almost all my scars disappear. It's a glimpse of what a scar free face might look look (sigh) doubt.gif

I expect to begin forming the little scabbies tomorrow, as it was about day 3 that they formed last time. Since there really isn't much else to report, I'll keep it brief (which for me is like bench pressing a house!!)

Best of luck to all and I'll report back tomorrow.

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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:08 AM

Treatment 2, Day 3

Didn't get the chance to update last night.

Healing is actually going better than it did the first time around. I don't have as much redness and the grid dots (scabs) that have appeared are fewer in number and not nearly as dark.

I still have some mild swelling, but nothing anyone else but me would notice.

I had a couple of friends have to get within inches of my face last night to see the grid marks under my pressed powder makeup.

It's starting to itch a little bit today, but I'm aware that it's because my skin is starting to heal and shed the dead skin off.

Technically, it's the morning of day 4, so I'm supposed to snap some pics and email them to Jessica for her review. I'm interested to hear her take on my healing this go around.

That's pretty much Day 3/4 smile.gif



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Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:16 PM

Treatment 2, Day 4 smile.gif

Not a whole lot to report. Most of the visible swelling is gone and my skin is beginning to flake. I emailed pics to my esthetician and she thought things looked great. She reaffirmed that I was healing well. I questioned her about the difference in last times healing and this times. It just seems like I'm responding better this go around. She said that it is normal and that perhaps my skin has "memory". I just wanted to be sure that she really did go deeper and this wasn't all a fluke!

I can lightly exfoliate tomorrow and begin using my Clarisonic brush this weekend. Still won't resume my regular skin care routine until next Monday (a week post treatment).

Hope everyone is well and I'll report back tomorrow evening smile.gif
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (SubState @ Jul 23 2010, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good luck on your journey! I'll be reading your posts! Thank you for explaining in such detail!

God Bless

Thanks Sub State! I'm beginning to wonder if anyone else is reading these posts! I'm out to a dinner party tonight so I'm going to go ahead and update my progress now, as I may not be home until late tonight and may have a sip or two of wine smile.gif

Treatment 2, Day 5

Exfoliated this morning and it was a nice change to be able to get some of the flakies off. I switched to a regular moisterizer last night instead of the heavier balm that I used in previous days. My esthetician was the one that recommended that I do that in case the heavier balm causes a breakout. It didn't last time, but with all the time and effort I'm investing in this, I don't want to take any chances!

I'm using a sample of PCAskin "ReBalance" phase 17 that she gave me. I like it:)

I still have an itty bitty bit of swelling, but nothing anyone could notice. My scars appear more filled out than normal. I'm sure this is still microswelling, but wanted to post this information for others who may seek this treatment. I'm not trying to give false hopes, but realistic expectations. My deepest icepick seems more like a mild/moderate boxscar now. I could totally dig it if it decided to stay that way and continue to improve! Hey, can't hurt to be positive!!

I'll be back to update again tomorrow after a wild night with friends!!

As always, God Bless eusa_angel.gif

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 05:22 PM

Sassy more people are reading than you realize. Most people don't know how to catagorize eMatrix and where it falls in laser treatments. The information has not been widespread like Fraxel Re:pair or DeepFX. I also found my second Re:pair to be easier than the first, and I am not exactly sure of why unless it is just the familiarity with the treatment.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 08:39 AM

Yeah Dudlely, you're right. eMatrix is not really a laser/light treatment, but it's not really a peel either. It's rather a hybrid of the two. Since it's a relatively new treatment, the lack of firsthand accounts are few and far between. I've had a hard time trying to explain it to my family & friends whom I've told I'm having "resurfacing work" done.

I was comforted by the fact that my esthetician told me that I was healing normally. I was just really surprised that my rendness & swelling would be minimal compared to the initial treatment, and the speed by which I'm healing is quicker, especially since we treated at a deeper level.

I'm living it up with the microswelling though! I had a friend, albeit a tipsy one, get right up into my face last night and say, "Your skin looks amazing! I'm totally going to go get a laser done." It really wasn't worth the trouble of explaining that I wasn't doing a laser since she won't remember what I told her the next morning! LOL smile.gif

It's good to know that your skin also healed quicker the 2nd go around w/ your repair, as I know you continued to see results with your scars. I know you're not a fan of supplementation, but I do take Vit C, E, flaxseed oil, zinc, & some other supplements for overall health & to speed skin healing. Perhaps that has helped the skin respond and heal more quickly.

Edited by sassy74, 24 July 2010 - 08:42 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2010 - 09:57 AM

Sassy, I really hope this works for you. We have gone through different eras like the Vitamin C Era and the Vitamin D Era, not to mention all the weight loss quackery that the supplement industry has foisted on the people. The industry is not regulated in what they say or even what they put in their products. They have as much credibility as Jenny McCarthy and Oprah Winfrey when it comes to medical advice. Jenny Mcarthy has her own program now even though every one of the studies about autism has been totally discredited, people are risking their babies lives based on her promotion of the Quack doctor from England who has lost his license in England but is making the lecture circuit in America.
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Posted 25 July 2010 - 07:13 PM

Treatment 2, Day 6/7

Hello all smile.gif
I didn't update yesterday because quite honestly, I was too stinkn' tired to get on the ol' computer after working all day!

Most of my scabs have flaked off and I was able to use my Clarisonic brush last night. That pretty much got 90% of them off. There are a few tiny ones left, but nothing noticeable to anyone.

I'm still using Cetaphil to cleanse with and only using a mild exfoliant scrub (PCAskin) in the morning.

I have even less redness today and was able to apply a little bit of concealer before going to church. This helped disguise all redness.

I've still got microswelling, so my scars are significantly more filled in. I'm sure that will dissipate over the next week or so, but I'm still tickled for now. Many of my ice pick scars (I have approx. 8-10 total, but many of those are clustered in one spot on my right cheek, thus making it look icky) that seem less deep. My deepest icepick has a more noticeable "bottom" that had even raised up from my initial treatment and even more so after this 2nd one. It gives me an idea what potential healing I have.

I'm scheduled for my 3rd treatment on August 9th. I'll be sure to update after that treatment.

For those interested in PIH from older/some newer blemishes, this treatment isn't really meant to address redness, as it's primary focus is stimulating the dermis to increase collagen production. The ablation points are significantly smaller than with traditional fractional lasers, thus you don't have as much epidermal tissue ablation. On the flip side of that though is quicker healing time as a result. I will note, however, that I have seen a reduction in some of the redness in my scars, which in turn makes them look better.

I've spoken with Jessica, my esthetician, about red/brown marks and the best treatment for those. I was foolish in my teens & twenties and used a tanning bed and laid in the sun. I used the excuse that it would dry out my blemishes and even out my skin tone. If I'd known that I'd now have collagen destruction (I'm 35, but still rockn') and sun spot freckles across my nose, forehead and upper cheeks, I would have been more diligent about sunscreen and over exposure. I'm probably going to schedule an IPL treatment in late fall after my 4th eMatrix in September. The IPL treatment will be done w/ the Syneron laser Triniti series. This is the same company that markets the eMatrix sublative rejuvenation system. I've seen her patients photos (that she's actually worked on and not marketing literature from the company) and I'm amazed at some of the results of some patients with SEVERE melasma.

I'm supposed to be able to return to my regular skin care regime tomorrow evening. I'm going to go every other day w/ my retin a cream this go around though. I started using it every night, 1 week post initial treatment last time and my skin got really dry and irritated. I'm hoping to avoid that this time around.

Please feel free to ask any questions and I'll be happy to try and help.

God Bless Y'all!! eusa_angel.gif

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:11 AM

Thanks for the thoroughness of your posts. I just had my third and final one done. I still think it's a good laser choice but I don't see any improvement at all. It may take a few months though, but really I can't say it had done much except make me feel better for trying to improve my skin. I have had no bad experiences with it and overall seems ok. If I feel it improved my skin any I will be sure to update everyone:)

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 04:16 PM

Oh I hope you're able to see some improvements. I've noticed a couple of my icepick scars aren't as deep. Do I look flawless? No, not by any stretch of the imagination. I still think I'm gonna need a deep peel or some other resurfacing done in the future. I'm having my 3rd done next Monday. Keep me posted on your progress. I'm trying to stay positive that it takes several weeks to months for collagen to plump up the scars. Hopefullly I'm not clinging to empty promises. I guess we'll have to wait and see.



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Posted 12 August 2010 - 02:16 PM

Treatment 3 (performed on August 9th)

Well, instead of reposting the same old, same old (Day 1, 2, 3 ect.) Thought I'd just give a quick (albeit NOT BRIEF) summary about my 3rd treatment.

Today is Day 4 from my 3rd eMatrix RF. I had it performed at 8:30 am, Monday morning. We went through the same prep routine, with one exception. Jessica, my aesthetician, did NOT use a Clarisonic brush to cleanse my skin. I asked her why and was told that since we're going into a deeper level she didn't want to further agitate my skin.

We both gave my complexion the once over before proceeding. We both have noticed improvements, in ice-pick and depressed (rolling?) scarring. smile.gif

I asked why my oldest (and deepest) ice pick seems to be responding the best, while my newest depressed (which is not even a year old yet) seems to be responding the slowest. She said that she is having the same experience with her scars! She had her 2nd treatment done the week prior to my visit and said that she's noticed more improvement in her oldest chicken pox scar then in her newest acne scar. Craziness!!

She started back w/ a Program C (not sure of the power setting) and when I commented that I couldn't feel a thing, she said, "Well, let's bump it up higher then". Again, no pain whatsoever.

I didn't even swell or turn red immediately afterwards. In fact, I rolled over to Target for about an hour and did some shopping before heading home! smile.gif I became slightly redder that evening. Contrary to my 2 previous treatments, I had NO oozing this time. Could be because we didn't use the Clarisonic?

The next morning I was still MILDLY red and had some minor swelling, nothing compared to my first treatment. I slapped on some mineral face powder and sauntered over to work.

I began a good bit of flaking skin today and can exfoliate tomorrow. Also switched from the heavier silkcoat balm to the rebalance moisturizer this morning.

My next appt. is Sept. 7th, which is a week longer between treatments than this last time. I figured it's because we went deeper this time.

Can I just say again how much I love my aesthetician, Jessica, and my Dr.'s office. Dr. Toland with ENT Surgical Associates in Warner Robbins, GA. I drive a couple hours to get there, but it is well worth my time and effort.

My next treatment will be free (can I hear an AMEN from the congregation!) and I'll also be going back up there in October for a checkup and perhaps an additional treatment. I'm totally sold on this procedure.

Realistically, I have my up and down days concerning my complexion, which I think is common for all of us that have scars. Last Wednesday I felt like a wildabeast (sp?) and didn't want to look anyone in the eye. However, and I kid you not, the next morning I swear some of my scars had begun to "fill up" overnight. It's like I'd been to the Collagen Filling Station and got a full tank.

One side effect of the scars filling in is that I think is important to note is that my oldest and deepest ice pick, though shallower, seems wider. I'm assuming from all I've read on other posts, most noteably the TCA Cross threads, that this is common. Kinda reminds me of the children's Christian hymn "Deep & Wide"

Also, wanted to clear up a bit of misinformation I had read a while back concerning blood pressure medication and it's inhibiting of collagen formation. I asked Jessica if she could check with Dr. Toland about that. She called me a few hours after I'd returned home and said that he'd never heard of that particular effect and even went into his journals and databases to see if there was any evidence to support that claim. There is not. I have to take 10mg of Linsinopril daily to maintain my blood pressure. Though I'm thin & fit (not trying to sound vain) it's wackadoodle that I have high bp, but is genetic, as both my folks are also fit & trim but suffer the same.

Anyhow. That's MORE than enough for now. Hope this information helps and I'll try and do my best to update and answer any questions someone may have.

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 11:03 AM

Hidy Ho everyone!

Back to give another update on my eMatrix RF Sublative Rejuvenation treatments. I was able to get my Sept. 7th appt. bumped up to last Monday (August 30th) so that's why I'm back early.

This was my 4th treatment (and free one, I might add smile.gif )

Same pre-procedural prep as my prior treatments, but no Clarisonic brush again this time. Treatment level was C, High Impact at 62mj. Both cheeks were covered and she even spot treated 3 areas that each had a small scar. One on each side of my chin and another close to my eyebrow. Those three scars are so minor that she didn't really see what I was talking about. I guess they're saucer/rolling scars.

I was able to see my photographs from my 1st session, pre-procedure. It was helpful to see the photographs because I'm better able to gauge my improvements.

My initial redness was pretty intense this time, but quickly disappated within 20 minutes or so. Jessica and I laughed that I should slap on some red lipstick & blue eyeshadow and try and bring the whole "extreme 80's makeup look" back smile.gif!!

I again ventured out to Target (which appears to be a post-eMatrix ritual for me now...but honestly, we don't have a big one close to where I live and since I drive 2 hours to get to my appointments, I need to make the most use of my time). I share that information to let you know that I don't look horrifiying and am willing to brave being in public, especially since it's out of town and no one knows me. Heck, I even threw in a jaunt to Hobby Lobby.

I was more swollen by the first evening, but the next morning the swelling had decreased by 75% and the redness was the least I've ever had. Shocking.

I'm on day 6 now and 70-80% of my scabs have flaked off. I have noticed that several are more firmly in place this time versus other treatments. I used my Clarisonic brush to cleanse this morning, but my skin still looks a tad flaky and dry. The redness looks more like a faint blush on my cheeks. I'm able to apply my mineral powder and blush and you'd never know I'd had "work" done!

My assessment of the sucess of this treatment would have to be a positive one. Of course, not all my scars have responding the exact same, but that's to be expected. 2 of my saucer scars are aprox. 80% improved. I kid you not. However, I must note, they were NOT deep to begin with. I think my overall scarring is best described as mild. Had the scarring not all been clustered on my right cheek, I may have been able to tolerate it better.

My ice pick scarring continues to improve. Is it still there? Heck yeah, but just not a severe. Many of the scars have taken on a flatter appearance. As noted in earlier posts, the deepest icepick did become wider, albeit shallower.

I'm going in for a 5th procedure on Sept. 20th. This time we're going to do an IPL for sundamage (my nose, upper cheeks and forehead are positively freckled from years of not being diligent w/ sunscreen) followed by a full face eMatrix. I have some forehead and nasolabial fold wrinkles that I would like to address, in addition to blasting these pesky scars yet again.

Please feel free to ask questions, should you have any. I'm so thankful for information found here on the forums and want to do my part to give back.

God Bless to All!

Edited by sassy74, 04 September 2010 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 08 September 2010 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (sassy74 @ Sep 4 2010, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hidy Ho everyone!

Back to give another update on my eMatrix RF Sublative Rejuvenation treatments. I was able to get my Sept. 7th appt. bumped up to last Monday (August 30th) so that's why I'm back early.

This was my 4th treatment (and free one, I might add smile.gif )

Same pre-procedural prep as my prior treatments, but no Clarisonic brush again this time. Treatment level was C, High Impact at 62mj. Both cheeks were covered and she even spot treated 3 areas that each had a small scar. One on each side of my chin and another close to my eyebrow. Those three scars are so minor that she didn't really see what I was talking about. I guess they're saucer/rolling scars.

I was able to see my photographs from my 1st session, pre-procedure. It was helpful to see the photographs because I'm better able to gauge my improvements.

My initial redness was pretty intense this time, but quickly disappated within 20 minutes or so. Jessica and I laughed that I should slap on some red lipstick & blue eyeshadow and try and bring the whole "extreme 80's makeup look" back smile.gif!!

I again ventured out to Target (which appears to be a post-eMatrix ritual for me now...but honestly, we don't have a big one close to where I live and since I drive 2 hours to get to my appointments, I need to make the most use of my time). I share that information to let you know that I don't look horrifiying and am willing to brave being in public, especially since it's out of town and no one knows me. Heck, I even threw in a jaunt to Hobby Lobby.

I was more swollen by the first evening, but the next morning the swelling had decreased by 75% and the redness was the least I've ever had. Shocking.

I'm on day 6 now and 70-80% of my scabs have flaked off. I have noticed that several are more firmly in place this time versus other treatments. I used my Clarisonic brush to cleanse this morning, but my skin still looks a tad flaky and dry. The redness looks more like a faint blush on my cheeks. I'm able to apply my mineral powder and blush and you'd never know I'd had "work" done!

My assessment of the sucess of this treatment would have to be a positive one. Of course, not all my scars have responding the exact same, but that's to be expected. 2 of my saucer scars are aprox. 80% improved. I kid you not. However, I must note, they were NOT deep to begin with. I think my overall scarring is best described as mild. Had the scarring not all been clustered on my right cheek, I may have been able to tolerate it better.

My ice pick scarring continues to improve. Is it still there? Heck yeah, but just not a severe. Many of the scars have taken on a flatter appearance. As noted in earlier posts, the deepest icepick did become wider, albeit shallower.

I'm going in for a 5th procedure on Sept. 20th. This time we're going to do an IPL for sundamage (my nose, upper cheeks and forehead are positively freckled from years of not being diligent w/ sunscreen) followed by a full face eMatrix. I have some forehead and nasolabial fold wrinkles that I would like to address, in addition to blasting these pesky scars yet again.

Please feel free to ask questions, should you have any. I'm so thankful for information found here on the forums and want to do my part to give back.

God Bless to All!


Thank you Sassy 74!

Just got done reading this complete thread. I'm very interested in eMatrix - my doctor who injects Radiesse (sp?) has been literally begging me to have Fraxel Repair done, but I've been holding off because I think eMatrix might be better. On these boards I've read reports that eMatrix is less harsh and gets better results and I'm reading yours and hopefully find more reports about the effectiveness of eMatrix. Keep up the reports and thank you! eusa_dance.gif


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Posted 08 September 2010 - 03:23 PM

Oh, thank you smile.gif Some on these boards have not had success w/ the eMatrix, but the same can be said for other treatments, including Re:Pair. I chose this treatment specifically due to it's minimal downtime. I'd had a microlaser peel back in March and wouldn't let anyone see me for 4-5 days, and those aren't even harsh. I will note, however, that I appeared to have an allergic reaction to the aquaphor that I used after the peel. I also broke out in some pimples a month later that I'm pretty sure I can trace back to the laser peel.

The eMatrix only ablates approx. 5% of the surface of the skin, also, there is no intense "heat" transfered into the dermal layer of the skin. This seems to cause alot of the side effects from traditional lasers. Also, fractional lasers created a straight column of ablation through the epidermis and into the dermis. The eMatrix creates a "Pyramid" or "cone" effect, by that I mean that the RF energy spans out into unablated dermal tissues. Recently, Syneron released the e2 treatment tip that has 122 grid points (as apposed to the 64 grid pattern that is done for the sublative rejuvenation) . This is supposed to help treat pigment issues. My office hasn't mentioned that they have it, but I also just found out about it yesterday while I was doing some additional research. Holy cow, do I sound like a Syneron rep or what?!! Actually, I've done a poop-load of research on this procedure. I wish I were a rep! Maybe all my treatments would be free smile.gif

It's also important to note that this is not a one & done doohickey, as evidenced by my 4 treatments, thus far. There has been improvements, but like with all similar scar treatments, they take time to see. As a matter of fact, my scars look less deep today than they did this weekend smile.gif Well, some of my scars, not all.

What type of scarring do you have, Tomster? Is there an office close by that can do your treatments if you choose to go the eMatrix route? I'll be happy to help with any additional information or just to provide support should you need it. It's always a comfort to not be alone in this treatment protocol.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 11:36 AM

QUOTE (sassy74 @ Sep 8 2010, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, thank you smile.gif Some on these boards have not had success w/ the eMatrix, but the same can be said for other treatments, including Re:Pair. I chose this treatment specifically due to it's minimal downtime. I'd had a microlaser peel back in March and wouldn't let anyone see me for 4-5 days, and those aren't even harsh. I will note, however, that I appeared to have an allergic reaction to the aquaphor that I used after the peel. I also broke out in some pimples a month later that I'm pretty sure I can trace back to the laser peel.

The eMatrix only ablates approx. 5% of the surface of the skin, also, there is no intense "heat" transfered into the dermal layer of the skin. This seems to cause alot of the side effects from traditional lasers. Also, fractional lasers created a straight column of ablation through the epidermis and into the dermis. The eMatrix creates a "Pyramid" or "cone" effect, by that I mean that the RF energy spans out into unablated dermal tissues. Recently, Syneron released the e2 treatment tip that has 122 grid points (as apposed to the 64 grid pattern that is done for the sublative rejuvenation) . This is supposed to help treat pigment issues. My office hasn't mentioned that they have it, but I also just found out about it yesterday while I was doing some additional research. Holy cow, do I sound like a Syneron rep or what?!! Actually, I've done a poop-load of research on this procedure. I wish I were a rep! Maybe all my treatments would be free smile.gif

It's also important to note that this is not a one & done doohickey, as evidenced by my 4 treatments, thus far. There has been improvements, but like with all similar scar treatments, they take time to see. As a matter of fact, my scars look less deep today than they did this weekend smile.gif Well, some of my scars, not all.

What type of scarring do you have, Tomster? Is there an office close by that can do your treatments if you choose to go the eMatrix route? I'll be happy to help with any additional information or just to provide support should you need it. It's always a comfort to not be alone in this treatment protocol.


Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner - work is crazy and then I did go see a doctor in West Hollywood about eMatrix. Actually, I'm going to talk to him today - I talked with his nurse who'[s had both Repair and eMatrix done. The eMatrix - done on the highest level 3 - was not as harsh or damaging as Repair - but I'm wondering if it did as much good as the Repair. The nurse did it for wrinkles/aging - not acne scars - so it really did yield as much information as I was wanting. She said the doctor might be able to provide more info - but the doctor does not do Repair - just eMatrix. But I'll find out more today. Price for 3 eMatrix treatments - $2,100. Seems pretty good.
Just not sure how much better scars will look. I have some rolling scars which I have injected with Radiesse every year. The rest are pits that have softened over the years thanks to TCA and retin A. Will eMatrix help the pits? That's the big question. Thanks sassy74 - you have A LOT of knowledge on eMatrix - keep us posted!

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:25 PM

Hey Tomster, glad you came back to post. Sounds like you're going to get the info you need, however, I'm sure you already know this, don't let the Dr. talk you into something you're not 100% on board with. Because I've never done any other type of laser, I can't really comment on those. I can say that I continue to see improvement in my scars. I've only been using Retin A since mid-May, so I haven't really seen the difference that it makes. I've never had a TCA peel, but I'm looking forward to having one in the future. My "icepick" scars have really filled out. Crazy as it sounds, my oldest and deepest ice pick is the one that has filled up the most. I almost can't believe it myself. I don't have scars all over, but localized in a "quarter-sized" spot on my right lower cheek. I have a few scarred pores that haven't really seemed to respond. I think it's important to point that out. Those I may treat with 100% TCA CROSS later this winter. I have a couple other scattered scars, but none that are next to each other. That's why it bugs me so stinkn' much. The "CLUSTER FROM HELL" !! is better and more shallow. I know it's going to take another several months to flesh out the full results of the treatments.

I go next Monday morning for my 5th treatment. I'm doing a full face (as opposed to just the cheeks) and an IPL treatment as well. I'll be sure to come back and post after that treatment.

I hope this "scar" info helps. Let me know how your appointment went.

God Bless!!




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