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i'm not totally familiar with all the ingredients but it looks like alot of fiber supplementation.

And NAC and Glucosamine. In some of the text I posted above in post #4, glucosamine is mentioned specifically for the lectins in wheat. And I think I saw NAC mentioned in my reading. Also, enzymes that break down proteins.

When I run out of MSM which I don't quite take daily, I'm going to buy these capsules from Cosco with MSM and glucosamine. But I have a giant bottle of MSM.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

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So now the thing to do is to look into what to do about lectins:

Soaking and sprouting for seeds.

Which protease enzymes?

Lectins in other foods that aren't seeds.

Supplement or consume plenty of raw foods for the enzymes.

Plants usually contain the enzymes needed to break them down and release nutrients and these enzymes are released when conditions are right. With seeds, those conditions are warmth and moisture as in springtime.

In many other foods, enzymes are released when the cells are crushed as in chopping or chewing. But enzymes are destroyed by heat. Which is why the whfoods.org people are always recommending you chop foods small, then let sit for at least 5mins, but longer if possible, before cooking to allow enzyme action to work before they are destroyed. I don't know yet if these are the enzymes that break down lectins, though.

Also, perhaps sourdough breads, pancakes, etc as many say (like westonprice.org) that celiac sufferers (people severly intolerant of gluten) can often eat sourdough bread. Real sourdough, though, not rapid rise yeast bread with sourdough flavoring. Or some bread or pancake method that involves the flour/grains sitting overnight in water and/or something acidic.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Here is a list of lectin content of a huge variety of foods:

http://www.owenfoundation.com/Health_Scien...s_in_Foods.html

So... agglutination = thick blood = acne?


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Here is a list of lectin content of a huge variety of foods:

http://www.owenfoundation.com/Health_Scien...s_in_Foods.html

So... agglutination = thick blood = acne?

Not that I know of. Lectins affect hyperkeratinization by inhibiting the ZAG enzyme. Which is the topic of this thread.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Remember that apart from that is the insulin spikes that trigger IGF-1, even if it does not have the lectins.

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Remember that apart from that is the insulin spikes that trigger IGF-1, even if it does not have the lectins.

Yes, we all know that, but glycemic impact is not the topic of discussion here.

Besides, the topic is also not grains. I don't know what the fixation on that is. The concern is with is ALL seeds, especially legumes, nuts and seeds, which nearly all have a low GI.

And some other foods besides those as one of the articles names nightshades as a culprit. And foods from grain fed animals, dairy especially.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Blog article by a doctor. Names wheat and soy as having the most damaging lectins:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008...ns-part-ii.html


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Blog article by a doctor. Names wheat and soy as having the most damaging lectins:

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008...ns-part-ii.html

Coincidentally, Soy and Wheat are two of the biggest crops in the US.

I'm almost positive that they are a subsidized crop as well. Which is why they're grown by so many farmers.

That's why we see so much Soy and Wheat "product" in these packaged frakenfoods on the supermarket shelves.

The only crop bigger? Corn! And we know that's in everything too. HFCS anybody?

So the two things with the most damaging lectins are running rampant through our food system. No wonder people are unhealthy. Sucks.

Why can't we subsidize fruits and veggies and pastured beef?


Since AUG 09: Been experimenting with Paleo/Primal diet and absolutely loving it.

Probiotics have been huge as well.


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Why can't we subsidize fruits and veggies and pastured beef?

Yes. And apparently in France, they subsidize quality as opposed to quantity like here. I don't know any more about that. It's just something the 'French Women Don't Get Fat' author said.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Nightshades are listed in with the various seed sources without saying what you can do about them. You don't usually soak or sprout nightshades.

What you can do about nightshades is cooking them. Cooking nightshades reduces the amount of lectins in them. Although they are not truely paleo (they come from the Americas where most of our evolutionary history did not take place in), I eat tomatoes often. Love them too much to give away.

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Nightshades are listed in with the various seed sources without saying what you can do about them. You don't usually soak or sprout nightshades.

What you can do about nightshades is cooking them. Cooking nightshades reduces the amount of lectins in them. Although they are not truely paleo (they come from the Americas where most of our evolutionary history did not take place in), I eat tomatoes often. Love them too much to give away.

Yeah cooking reduces some. Also, crushing cells gets enzymes working. Which is why the whfoods.org guy is always saying to chop things and let them sit for at least 5 minutes, but longer is better, to let the enzymes work before you kill them in cooking. Although I have no idea if these are the enzyme that break down lectins. The whfoods.org guy recommends this for the nutrients.

And the trouble with this for me is that I hate cooked peppers, and only recently discovered how delicious raw red peppers are. My favorite snack is red pepper 'chips' dipped in hummus. But since they should be organic and are expensive enough conventionally grown much less organic I don't have them much. I tried to grow some but this summer was just too hot. I'm trying again now for the fall.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Do potatoes and rice contain lectins?

Also, aren't most beans soaked enough and cooked so that they do not have active lectins?


Please, use Retin-A. It has nearly eliminated my acne and continues to lighten my red marks.


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Do potatoes and rice contain lectins?

Also, aren't most beans soaked enough and cooked so that they do not have active lectins?

Rice yes, for sure. BUT, there are fewer lectins in rice compared to, say, wheat. It is also gluten free. One interesting thing, the hunter-gatherers that adopted agriculture thousands of years ago all declined in health, except those that were already unhealthy (lived in marginal places, couldn't get enough food) OR those that adopted rice as their main crop. Read more about it:

There are some apparent exceptions to the trend of declining health with the adoption of intensive agriculture. In my observation, they fall into two general categories. In the first, health improves upon the transition to agriculture because the hunter-gatherer population was unhealthy to begin with. This is due to living in a marginal environment or eating a diet with a high proportion of wild plant seeds. In the second category, the culture adopted rice. Rice is associated with less of a decline in health, and in some cases an increase in overall health, than other grains such as wheat and corn. In chapter 21 of the book Ancient Health: Bioarchaeological Interpretations of the Human Past, Drs. Michelle T Douglas and Michael Pietrusewsky state that "rice appears to be less cariogenic [cavity-promoting] than other grains such as maize [corn].

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009...origins-of.html

About potatoes, white potato is a nightshade (yep) so it is loaded with lectins. I remember reading something else about white potatoe that it has another compound which is really bad, can't remember so just dismiss that.

Other tubers (sweet potatoes, taro, yams) are not nightshades. BUT, lectins are in most plant foods, just in different amounts. I would not think that these other tubers have too many lectins. Compare white potatoes to sweet potatoes in this site.

As for beans, most bean dishes you buy are not soaked at all. Soaking will only happen if you cook them yourself and soak them. Soaking and cooking take away enough lectins to make it edible, but they still have plenty afterward.

Sprouting is better than soaking, but you cannot use them interchangeably. WHF has instructions on soaking, you should soak your rice as well btw.

Hope that helps.

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About potatoes, white potato is a nightshade (yep) so it is loaded with lectins. I remember reading something else about white potatoe that it has another compound which is really bad, can't remember so just dismiss that.

When potatoes are fried (french fries, chips) there is something called acrylamide which is cancer-causing. And of course there's always that sneaky trans fat.

Is that what you were thinking of?


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Probiotics have been huge as well.


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About potatoes, white potato is a nightshade (yep) so it is loaded with lectins. I remember reading something else about white potatoe that it has another compound which is really bad, can't remember so just dismiss that.

When potatoes are fried (french fries, chips) there is something called acrylamide which is cancer-causing. And of course there's always that sneaky trans fat.

Is that what you were thinking of?

Or perhaps the toxic solanine found in all species in the family Solanaceae (AKA nightshades). Any green parts on a potato are toxic. And eggplant has a lot of it too. I've wondered if tomatoes that are picked green and artificially ripened are an issue in that regard as well...


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About potatoes, white potato is a nightshade (yep) so it is loaded with lectins. I remember reading something else about white potatoe that it has another compound which is really bad, can't remember so just dismiss that.

When potatoes are fried (french fries, chips) there is something called acrylamide which is cancer-causing. And of course there's always that sneaky trans fat.

Is that what you were thinking of?

No, is a component of white potatoes that is not dependent on cooking method.

I actually remember now, potatoes contain lectins AND glycoalkaloids. As you can read here most nightshades have them, so sweet potatoes, yams, and other tubers won't contain glycoalkaloids.

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Soaking and cooking take away enough lectins to make it edible, but they still have plenty afterward.

You need to drain the soaking liquid and rinse as well. The instructions I've found for soaking nuts and seeds tells you to drain and rinse several times during the soaking time.

Also, some beans have more than others. One of the sources I linked to in my first few posts named soy and kidney beans as among the worst. And broad beans, not so much. Broad beans include about a 100 varieties of lima bean. And if you soak and cook them yourself with a lot of garlic, they are delicious. Nothing like those nasty things you were served in your school cafeteria or by your parents. I've been eating giant Peruvian lima beans which are really good and so much faster to sort through for bad beans or pebbles because they such big white beans.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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"As for beans, most bean dishes you buy are not soaked at all. Soaking will only happen if you cook them yourself and soak them. Soaking and cooking take away enough lectins to make it edible, but they still have plenty afterward."

What about beans in a can which are soaking in water, and then cooked and put in chili which is reheated?

Don't you think that would be enough to dramatically lower the lectin content?


Please, use Retin-A. It has nearly eliminated my acne and continues to lighten my red marks.


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What about beans in a can which are soaking in water, and then cooked and put in chili which is reheated?

Don't you think that would be enough to dramatically lower the lectin content?

No, canned beans are cooked, probably in a pressure cooker. They need to be soaked raw and at a temperature that doesn't destroy the necessary enzymes.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

I now see that you posted that already, so nm.


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Dr. Oz, who is from Turkey, keeps mentioning that when he was growing up his parents gave him soaked nuts like walnuts and almonds for snacks. So apparently it has been the tradition there.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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THIS HAS TO BE part OF THE TOP 5 threads of all time in acne.org

AMAZING THREAD!

Have you tried N-A-G to try the theory? I only wish Cordain's ZAG was available in supps lol

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THIS HAS TO BE part OF THE TOP 5 threads of all time in acne.org

AMAZING THREAD!

Have you tried N-A-G to try the theory? I only wish Cordain's ZAG was available in supps lol

I agree!

Did anybody try anything related to this theory with results? Alernativista?

Avoiding all the lectins-containing food is just a like a slightly modified candida-diet... Eggs seem to be listed too, but they are essential when you don't have carbs, or should they be cut out too?


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