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#1 cochise

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:43 AM

For some strange reason i decided to switch to being a vegan after sufferin a year with acne, after only a few weeks my face had almost completely cleared up and therefore i could only assume dairy was the culprit. It's proven time and time again that every time i have some chocolate or something with milk in it, it's flared up again! even when quorn!!! quorn of all people started using milk protein in their deli slices and ham and roast... all of which i think quite a good few vegans and vegetarians like as part of our meal, can't have now because they've pointlessly added in milk protein. And in fact if you care to direct your eyes to the vegan society website, there's TONS of info on why we shouldn't even be consuming dairy in the first place, it's made purely for baby cows, stuffed fulla hormones, any farmer will tell you that the quality of milk is based on how many PUS CELLS are in the milk... i mean... it's disgusting when u research the whole dairy thing. Ok so this site maintains that Diet and acne are totally unrelated, and for some people that MAY be true, but i'd be willing to wager my life on the fact that almost everyone reading this that choose to trial cutting out dairy completely from their diet will notice a significant improvement! if not clear up altogether!!! JOIN WITH ME AND BEAT ACNE BY ELIMINATING DAIRY FROM YOUR DIET!!!!
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 05:52 AM

but i love cheese so so much sad.gif - i would miss it even more than chocolate cry.gif

were you vegetarian before becoming vegan ?? are quorn manufacturers of "vege" meat alternatives ?? - whoops , just reread your post and answered my own question.

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 06:16 AM

For me it makes no difference. I must drink any where between 2-3 litres of milk, eat 200g-600g of yoghurt and atleast 250g of cottage cheese a day!! And some days I look phenominal, and on other days Terrible! Lucky me?

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 12:41 PM

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it's made purely for baby cows


I've always thought it strange that we drink milk that comes from another species of animal. It's not natural... but I'm addicted. I blame my parents, haha.

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It's proven time and time again that every time i have some chocolate or something with milk in it, it's flared up again


You should only eat dark chocolate. It has way more antioxidants than milk chocolate, and it tastes soooo much better. I've read that you should not eat dark chocolate and drink milk together because proteins in the milk will bind to and deactivate all the beneficial phytochemicals in the dark chocolate.

just some food for thought

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Posted 16 June 2004 - 02:14 PM

I've always found www.notmilk.com to be an interesting if not extremist view against milk but personally I find no problem w/ milk or stright Whey protein. I found the more I work out the more milk I drink and the better my face looks. I'm also putting on alot more Benzaclin + sitting out in the sun a bit so maybe that's it.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 06:56 AM

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For some strange reason i decided to switch to being a vegan after sufferin a year with acne, after only a few weeks my face had almost completely cleared up and therefore i could only assume dairy was the culprit. It's proven time and time again that every time i have some chocolate or something with milk in it, it's flared up again!


I made a wonderful wonderful discovery grocery shopping this week... SOY CHOCOLATE. Its dairy free and pretty much free of everything else as well lol. Theres hardly any fat in it, and its made with cane sugar, not refined sugar. about the only thing wrong with it is i think it has a flavour in it, but im prepared to ignore that tongue.gif Its a bit of an acquired taste, kind of like the cheap chocolate they use in the advent calendars, i still love it anyways.

Im cutting dairy atm, after three days I am having serious withdrawals. I love milk *cries* The things we do in the pursuit of clear skin. I will give it a month or so.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 08:01 AM

Went off dairy when I became a raw foodist, did nothing to affect my acne. Every now and again I will drink organic milk with no problems. I do think that all the hormones in regular milk is detrimental to the body.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 08:14 AM

Yeah I have pretty exactly experience as animegirle has. When I was on raw food diet, it had proved me that dairy didnt affect my acne. Now, I have dairy as part of my diet, it seems it doesnt affect my acne. I drink only raw organic milk or fermented milk (kefir). FYI, I still have acne. So, any of food could affect my acne that I didnt notice. I believe it has doing something with my liver.

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 08:28 AM

In addition to what I said above...I am not saying dairy does not cause acne problems for some, there are food products that cause me major problems...but would be fine for others. I do believe in searching for the root cause! Good luck on your quest. :mrgreen:

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Posted 17 June 2004 - 01:52 PM

milk does not cause acne for me, but still its pretty bad for ya.
so I don't take it => to preserve my overall health.

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 01:29 AM

Nienna

Whats the difference between cane sugar and refined sugar? Is cane sugar any less bad for you than refined?

Donna

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 01:46 AM

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milk does not cause acne for me, but still its pretty bad for ya.
so I don't take it => to preserve my overall health.

So what are you doing for calcium? I dont drink milk, so I was taking calcium supplements (like Tums) for a while, but I SUCK at remembering pills, vitamins, etc. so I stopped taking them. Food...I never forget to eat smile.gif...so what can I replace milk with for calcium?

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE(Catwoman @ Jun 18 2004, 03:33 PM)
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milk does not cause acne for me, but still its pretty bad for ya.
so I don't take it => to preserve my overall health.

So what are you doing for calcium? I dont drink milk, so I was taking calcium supplements (like Tums) for a while, but I SUCK at remembering pills, vitamins, etc. so I stopped taking them. Food...I never forget to eat smile.gif...so what can I replace milk with for calcium?

I think I remember reading or seeing on TV that a well rounded intake of many different colored fruits and vegetables each day will provide you with enough calcium.

you should check that out on the net if your interested.

I think yogurt is a good source of calcium but that is just fermented milk.

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 12:34 PM

milk doesn't contain all that much calcium anyway - no where near what's recommended - unless you drink something like 5 8-oz glasses per day.

I don't think any foods contain more than 20% of the recommended amount, so it's very, very hard to get 100% recommended calcium from food alone. Part of that is probably the fact that by the time inadequate calcium intake becomes an issue, we're older (in other words past 'breeding age') - so evolution never really would have completely solved this problem.

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Posted 18 June 2004 - 02:15 PM

Some orange juices are fortified with calcium. Drink that. Lot's of vitamin C, too. Woo!