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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:52 AM

Wicky, have you tried a gluten-free diet? And baking soda (leave on for 3 mins) paste?

Gluten is in everything. Perhaps you might have non-celiac gluten allergies or some sort of auto-immune disease where your body is attacking its own skin cells and causes excess shedding/flaking, sort of like psoriasis. I just know it has to be internal.

For seborrheic dermatitis sufferers, I suggest trying Lotrimin Ultra. It helps tremendously. Unlike the azoles which are downright scams, the main ingredient in Lotrimin Ultra is a viable fungicidal. The azole class only surpresses the fungal growth. Fungicidals get right down to the dirt and kill the fungus. It's worked wonders for my skin but the ingredients in it like petroleum I am allergic to, causing me to break out a bit.

I have been clear for weeks now without applying anything thanks to Lotrimin Ultra, however, it's coming back again. I just wonder for myself - if this is some sort of autoimmune problem in my skin that causes the barrier to weaken, therefore leading to an increased risk of fungal infection. Or it's the environment I'm living in. (83% humidity, winter near the mountains).

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:57 AM

okie, yes i have tried a gluten free diet and it never worked. i do believe you are on to something about my imuune system attacking my skin cells but how do i change that? i have just been diagnosed with thyroid cancer and in my last post i explained that my rheumatoid factor was elevated but they dont think they are related. i cant get anywhere with anti fungals topically or internally either. Diet has not helped either. No matter if i eaten gluten or sugar, it doesnt help or hurt my skin. Ive tried applying anti fungals on my face like lotrimin but they dont get to the core of the plugs. They are deep and white and look like pus filled pimples but super tiny. The only way to get then is to dig them out but it makes an awful mess of things..im off to the derm yet again for a red/blue light treatment to help inflammation and possibly slow oil production. I wish i could show you a photo of my chin, especially the crease where there are numerous little white bulges. They never stop producing....thanks for your input i just wish i knew how to change it if its an auto immune thing

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:29 PM

which red/blue light treatment are you getting?


okiedokie thanks for the input. When I remove a plug or if one falls out on its own whats underneath is a hole. Its my pore. I can see the clog sitting inside the pore and once its out is like a cork. Its like a little white round grain of rice. These are the ones that are dry and hard and mostly in the center of my cheeks where my pores look like an orange peel. the ones in my chin are embedded and squisher and need to be extracted or pried out with my tweezer. I have often thought that my skin was better when it had more moisture but I cannot find a moisturizer my skin likes. Ive been using CeraVe PM right now and its okay. Everything irritates me and nothing soothes my rosacea or seb derm. Its a crazy cycle and I cant find anything to work. The pyrthione zinc in the born to be mild cleanser is the only thing that smoothes the skin and makes it feel less grainy. Funny thing is im not sure if this is a component of seb derm or rosacea. Where the derm said I have seb derm is on the sides of my face but its not dry and only slightly pink. Its never scaly and grainy like my pores. I cant wear makeup at all because of the scaling and its always worse by the end of the day. When I wake in the morning its smooth but as the day goes on and i produce more oil it sort of gets stuck in the pores.

your right about internal because i jusst got some blood work back and my rheumatoid factor was elevated which indicates theres some inflammation somewhere. My thyroid was off as well, specifically my T3. I am in menopause so my hormones are also out of balance but the hormone cream should be taking care of that.

I do drink lots of water in fact its the only thing I do drink. I've also thought of PDT but have you seen the pictures? Crazy bad and I dont think I have the strength to go thru something like that. Im considering Alumera its similar and has great success with pore shrinkage. I just wish I knew what the grains meant? Oily or dry????


Sounds more and more like an internal issue. You know, I read about a study saying there's this bacteria that clumps up and gathers in the pore leading to what looks like a keratin/sebum plug. If I find it I will post it. I don't think it was demodex. Demodex Releases a bacteria that triggers an inflammatory response from the skin. Serb derm and rosacea are both related. Even though it appears dry, if your skin is oily then it can cause the seb derm flakes to sprout up. To me, you have combination skin.

But I think you have an internal issue especially with the hormonal imbalance. A hormone cream will not work neither will a moisturizer. Even your cleanser wont work for the long run. it works temporarily but only masks the symptoms. Same with PDT that i mentioned earlier. Skin problems with an impaired barrier are mostly internal issues. You should talk to your doctor about the hormonal issue and thyroid problems. There could be an inflammatory response due to an autoimmune problem where your body's immune system is attacking its own cells. Your impaired skin barrier may be a sign of that. Increase in RF is usually a sign of rheumatoid arthritis, hepatitis, and other related conditions. Last time I checked, autoimmune diseases like RA or the EE that I mentioned earlier are potentially connected with psoriasis or seborrheic dermatitis. Those are just signs on the surface of an underlying problem in your body. Add hormonal imbalance to the mix and you have a recipe for disaster. Hormonal imbalance is usually oily skin.

If you tried so many alternatives, antifungals, anti bacterials, and a boat load of topicals and supplements with no results, you may have stop whatever regimen you're doing to prevent further exacerbation of inflammation on skin (seb derm and rosacea can be prolonged due to cosmetics and topicals) and follow on proper diagnosis and treatment of the underlying cause.


So how do you suggest treating it?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:23 AM

which red/blue light treatment are you getting?



okiedokie thanks for the input. When I remove a plug or if one falls out on its own whats underneath is a hole. Its my pore. I can see the clog sitting inside the pore and once its out is like a cork. Its like a little white round grain of rice. These are the ones that are dry and hard and mostly in the center of my cheeks where my pores look like an orange peel. the ones in my chin are embedded and squisher and need to be extracted or pried out with my tweezer. I have often thought that my skin was better when it had more moisture but I cannot find a moisturizer my skin likes. Ive been using CeraVe PM right now and its okay. Everything irritates me and nothing soothes my rosacea or seb derm. Its a crazy cycle and I cant find anything to work. The pyrthione zinc in the born to be mild cleanser is the only thing that smoothes the skin and makes it feel less grainy. Funny thing is im not sure if this is a component of seb derm or rosacea. Where the derm said I have seb derm is on the sides of my face but its not dry and only slightly pink. Its never scaly and grainy like my pores. I cant wear makeup at all because of the scaling and its always worse by the end of the day. When I wake in the morning its smooth but as the day goes on and i produce more oil it sort of gets stuck in the pores.

your right about internal because i jusst got some blood work back and my rheumatoid factor was elevated which indicates theres some inflammation somewhere. My thyroid was off as well, specifically my T3. I am in menopause so my hormones are also out of balance but the hormone cream should be taking care of that.

I do drink lots of water in fact its the only thing I do drink. I've also thought of PDT but have you seen the pictures? Crazy bad and I dont think I have the strength to go thru something like that. Im considering Alumera its similar and has great success with pore shrinkage. I just wish I knew what the grains meant? Oily or dry????


Sounds more and more like an internal issue. You know, I read about a study saying there's this bacteria that clumps up and gathers in the pore leading to what looks like a keratin/sebum plug. If I find it I will post it. I don't think it was demodex. Demodex Releases a bacteria that triggers an inflammatory response from the skin. Serb derm and rosacea are both related. Even though it appears dry, if your skin is oily then it can cause the seb derm flakes to sprout up. To me, you have combination skin.

But I think you have an internal issue especially with the hormonal imbalance. A hormone cream will not work neither will a moisturizer. Even your cleanser wont work for the long run. it works temporarily but only masks the symptoms. Same with PDT that i mentioned earlier. Skin problems with an impaired barrier are mostly internal issues. You should talk to your doctor about the hormonal issue and thyroid problems. There could be an inflammatory response due to an autoimmune problem where your body's immune system is attacking its own cells. Your impaired skin barrier may be a sign of that. Increase in RF is usually a sign of rheumatoid arthritis, hepatitis, and other related conditions. Last time I checked, autoimmune diseases like RA or the EE that I mentioned earlier are potentially connected with psoriasis or seborrheic dermatitis. Those are just signs on the surface of an underlying problem in your body. Add hormonal imbalance to the mix and you have a recipe for disaster. Hormonal imbalance is usually oily skin.

If you tried so many alternatives, antifungals, anti bacterials, and a boat load of topicals and supplements with no results, you may have stop whatever regimen you're doing to prevent further exacerbation of inflammation on skin (seb derm and rosacea can be prolonged due to cosmetics and topicals) and follow on proper diagnosis and treatment of the underlying cause.


So how do you suggest treating it?


I'm no doctor so I can't say how to treat it. But if seborrheic dermatitis or dermatitis in general is secondary to another cause then of course you want to treat the primary cause. Maybe my seb derm went away for awhile not because of the Lotrimin Ultra but maybe because my esophagus got better and my GERD didn't come back for weeks. I really can't tell you and that is why each of us needs to know our bodies very well in order to solve our health problems.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

okie, yes i have tried a gluten free diet and it never worked. i do believe you are on to something about my imuune system attacking my skin cells but how do i change that? i have just been diagnosed with thyroid cancer and in my last post i explained that my rheumatoid factor was elevated but they dont think they are related. i cant get anywhere with anti fungals topically or internally either. Diet has not helped either. No matter if i eaten gluten or sugar, it doesnt help or hurt my skin. Ive tried applying anti fungals on my face like lotrimin but they dont get to the core of the plugs. They are deep and white and look like pus filled pimples but super tiny. The only way to get then is to dig them out but it makes an awful mess of things..im off to the derm yet again for a red/blue light treatment to help inflammation and possibly slow oil production. I wish i could show you a photo of my chin, especially the crease where there are numerous little white bulges. They never stop producing....thanks for your input i just wish i knew how to change it if its an auto immune thing


I'm sorry to hear about your thyroid cancer. Wow, so this is definitely a puzzle but I think it's coming together.

Rheumatoid factor usually pops up because of inflammation and it's basically your body's own immune system attacking itself and making these antibodies to attack your own cells. I think in your case, somehow, it's attacking your skin cells and perhaps other cells as well. Now for the thyroid cancer ,I can't see the connection between RF and thyroid cancer but I do know the thyroid regulates hormones and can affect the skin dramatically. You know, hypothyroidism can cause seborrhea and psoriasis too, in which case you need thyroid hormone like Synthroid. I would advise you not to take anything that affects hormonal issues like saw palmetto. It just messes with the system. What exactly has your doctor said? Do you have hypothyroidism? Hyperthyroid? Are they going to do a thyroidectomy to remove the tumor? Have they started you on medication? Let me know, I'm curious.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:37 AM

I started on Armour thyroid medication several weeks ago to start boosting my thyroid levels and also not produce any more nodules. I have 3 nodules. One is large and two are small but I do need a thyroidectomy. I am in the process of scheduling it now and it will prob be done by the end of the year. I am hyperthyroid but have symptoms of hyper and hypo so its a bit confusing. The RA is a mystery to me and will have to see a rheumatologist after this thyroid issue is taken care of. I think you are right when you say my immune system is attacking my skin cells. I have tried all the right things...supplmenets, diet and lifestyle changes and nothing has worked in 3 years so there is a bigger picture here. I do have rosacea which my be exasserbated by the RA but who knows anymore. Right now Im nursing two huge under the skin type pimples on my chin. I almost never get anything like this. They both have a hard center and have not budged in a week. I want to tear into it to get whats in there out but I wont and then I will be upset because i will have to wait for it to heal. ugh is all can say...

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 03:26 AM

I started on Armour thyroid medication several weeks ago to start boosting my thyroid levels and also not produce any more nodules. I have 3 nodules. One is large and two are small but I do need a thyroidectomy. I am in the process of scheduling it now and it will prob be done by the end of the year. I am hyperthyroid but have symptoms of hyper and hypo so its a bit confusing. The RA is a mystery to me and will have to see a rheumatologist after this thyroid issue is taken care of. I think you are right when you say my immune system is attacking my skin cells. I have tried all the right things...supplmenets, diet and lifestyle changes and nothing has worked in 3 years so there is a bigger picture here. I do have rosacea which my be exasserbated by the RA but who knows anymore. Right now Im nursing two huge under the skin type pimples on my chin. I almost never get anything like this. They both have a hard center and have not budged in a week. I want to tear into it to get whats in there out but I wont and then I will be upset because i will have to wait for it to heal. ugh is all can say...


It's tough and I feel for ya. It's definitely a bigger picture and your skin represents what's going on inside the body. At least you know what potentially and most likely is causing your problem. I recently tested for any potential thyroid problem but mine came back normal so I'm up in the air onto why this it's suddenly coming back for me. I think Lotrimin Ultra was a placebo. I would not touch or alter anything with your skin. Just wait for it to heal. Hopefully you have more news on any new discoveries.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

okiedokie just wondering how things were going for you? My flaking and scaling is something awful right now. Im taking oil of oregano as an anti fungal and also diflucan. Its one pill every week and I'm on my second pill right now. Im wondering if its making things worse before it gets better. I just wish I knew how do deal with de-scaling my face each night. Ive been washing with a pyrithione zinc cleanser and its a bit drying so i'm not sure if its helping or hurting. When I wash with my gentle cleanser (Avene Anti Redness cleanser) it doesnt seem to remove all the gunk even though I dont wear makeup. I've re-read this thread so many times looking for answers and I feel like I've tried every one of them. My thyroid surgery is this week so i'm praying that this is the answer to my skin problems. I cant imagine a life like this...

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

One more thing...
People with SD should be absolutely positive that they don't have dandruff in scalp. If they do, remove it with a medicated shampoo. Some patients have reported how their SD went away after they got rid of scalp dandruff.


Wow, old post, but is there any proof of your words on this actual site? I'd be interested to read if so.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:42 AM

Has anyone with SD, as in dandruff in their hair, tried not shampooing?

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:30 PM


One more thing...
People with SD should be absolutely positive that they don't have dandruff in scalp. If they do, remove it with a medicated shampoo. Some patients have reported how their SD went away after they got rid of scalp dandruff.


Wow, old post, but is there any proof of your words on this actual site? I'd be interested to read if so.


which medicated shampoos shud i be using?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 05:36 AM



One more thing...
People with SD should be absolutely positive that they don't have dandruff in scalp. If they do, remove it with a medicated shampoo. Some patients have reported how their SD went away after they got rid of scalp dandruff.


Wow, old post, but is there any proof of your words on this actual site? I'd be interested to read if so.


which medicated shampoos shud i be using?


Something with Zinc and/or Sulphur in it. You could try Ketoconazole (Nizoral). It is sold commercially, or you could go to the doctors and see what they can prescribe you, if you have dandruff on your scalp.

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Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

any updates on this thread?  My face is out of control at the moment.  I feel like Ive exhausted everything at this point and there is nothing left for me to try.  Diet, antifungals, lasers, light therapy, topicals, supplements all have failed.  Ive had my thyroid out for a couple of months and my skin is worse than ever.  Im taking my armour medication and my bio identical hormone creams daily and nothing will calm the inflammation.  Ive tried tumeric supplements to see if that works and nothing. Its a red, rashy hot burning mess.  They say people with rosacea dont have whiteheads or blackheads but that is not the case with me. My chin is loaded with clogs and keratin plugs everywhere. There in the corners of my mouth and down across the crease of my chin.  When I try and extract them they retreat with the plug still lodged.  Right now i have two that are inflammed and will not heal due to the plug still inside.  ive upped my zinc intake to try and get them to heal but after a week they are still red and raw.  I was recently experimenting with an antifungal oil by trustnature.com called DermEssentials and it did squat.  So what does all this mean if this didnt work?  The only way to get my skin smooth and flake free is to wash with pyrthione zinc but its way to harsh for my skin and I can red bumps and am raw for days.  The flakes come right back the next day and build up again so Im just not sure what to do anymore.  Im living in hell for 3 yrs now and its taken everything from my life. Im so sad



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Posted 06 March 2013 - 10:28 AM

any updates on this thread?  My face is out of control at the moment.  I feel like Ive exhausted everything at this point and there is nothing left for me to try.  Diet, antifungals, lasers, light therapy, topicals, supplements all have failed.  Ive had my thyroid out for a couple of months and my skin is worse than ever.  Im taking my armour medication and my bio identical hormone creams daily and nothing will calm the inflammation.  Ive tried tumeric supplements to see if that works and nothing. Its a red, rashy hot burning mess.  They say people with rosacea dont have whiteheads or blackheads but that is not the case with me. My chin is loaded with clogs and keratin plugs everywhere. There in the corners of my mouth and down across the crease of my chin.  When I try and extract them they retreat with the plug still lodged.  Right now i have two that are inflammed and will not heal due to the plug still inside.  ive upped my zinc intake to try and get them to heal but after a week they are still red and raw.  I was recently experimenting with an antifungal oil by trustnature.com called DermEssentials and it did squat.  So what does all this mean if this didnt work?  The only way to get my skin smooth and flake free is to wash with pyrthione zinc but its way to harsh for my skin and I can red bumps and am raw for days.  The flakes come right back the next day and build up again so Im just not sure what to do anymore.  Im living in hell for 3 yrs now and its taken everything from my life. Im so sad

Have you tried using just oregano oil on your face? After trying everything for my acne-ridden, seborrheic dermatitis covered face, I finally decided to try oregano oil as I'd done a ton of research and found that many people had success with it, when using it mixed with water. So, what I do, is put 2-3 drops of oregano essential oil in a cup of filtered water. I then wash my face with water only in the evening and then pat it dry. Then, I put some of the oregano oil & water solution on my face and let it air dry (just make sure that you shake it very well before applying to your skin). That's it. I only wash my face in the evening so I only do it once a day. However, you could start by doing it 2-3 times a day to really get your face under control in the beginning and then eventually taper off to once a day. Just be warned that for the first few days, you may get some added redness and itchiness as the SD fights back. I really wish you lots of luck and hope you find success with this method. It's really helped me a lot. I actually started with putting the oregano oil solution on the bottom portion of my face only, as a sort of experiment, about 4 months ago. Then, seeing as that was the clearest part of my entire face, I finally started to use it on my entire face about 5 days ago and am so happy I did as the rest of my face is now clearing up too. So, good luck to you and please email me if you have any questions! I'll be praying this works for you too!



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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

i know it sounds crazy but the seborrheic dermatitis microbes turn your body oil into soap! here is a lecture given by John Hovanesian MD of Harvard Eye. search youtube for "Dry Eye Treatment Part II, John Hovanesian MD Harvard Eye"

 

youtube.com/watch?v=HSF45Wx9BOE

he starts to talk about it about 3 and a half minutes in. it explains a lot! it explains the soapy taste that i though meant i was leaving soap on me and it explains why the treatments on your face are not really effective. they are riding on top of the soap and the bacteria are protected by the soap! the bacteria are producing soap scum on you and soap scum is virtually impenetrable. before any treatment can be effective you must get the soap scrum off of you so the bacteria can be treated directly. i'm trying some natural soap scum removal treatments like vinegar that are gentle enough for human skin.

the post by the guy who said that when he was running a lot he didn't have a problem makes me suspicious that what i have thought for quite a while is true, that it's not the sun that makes it better, it's the sweat. the extra sweat floats the soap off of you. mine always gets much worse the first week in September here in maine when the temperature suddenly gets 10 degrees cooler and doesn't recover because of a shift in the jet stream but the amount of sun is still the same.



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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:40 AM

I have acne prone skin + seborrheic dermatitis. Somehow I kept like 90% both under control for last 3 months.

My regimen:

Topical - shower once a day every day, using grandpa's pine tar soap for the face, after that I spray it with 50:50 ACV / water mix in spray bottle, leaving it 2-4 minutes then rinse under shower without the soap. For the hair I rotate 3 shampoos - one with selenium sulfide, some other with Zinc pyrithione and one with octopirox. After bath sometimes I moisturize with grapeseed oil and few times a week with Zinc pyrithione spray if the SD appear.

Internally - 50 mg Zinc, water kefir morning and evening, recently started taking calcium/ magnesium/ copper because I totally quit dairy accept yogurt and calcium deficiency can cause serious bone/teeth problems also zinc in long term could cause copper deficiency. Almost no sugar, but not 100% tho. I don't drink coffey. Also no sodas and juices sold on market.

 

Well thats about it and works quite well for me so far. I try to relax and just let it go when it comes to argue or somehow im going to get mad cuz stress is really a major factor. I am also considering trying a Zinc PCA cream (anybody tried it?) 

 

Wicky if nothing topical seems to work that good maybe you should focus on vitamins and probiotics.. hmm I don't really know..

 

con eli nice to hear another working regimen, how is oregano oil doing on acne?



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Posted 30 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

im doing worse than ever...just resorted to predisone to clear this current rash up all along the sides of my face.  That plus the buildup of disgusting skin has put me in a really dark place.  ACV never worked for me even diluted as it was way too drying.  I use dermadoctors born to be mild several times a week but again its drying. I also tried granpas pine tar and it works fine on my forhead but no where else because 1. it doesnt remove makeup and 2. its drying.  I never know what to moisturize with as i've tried jojoba and hemp oil but they dont keep me moisturized.  My the redness from my seb derm is not in the usual places but all along the insides of my cheeks.  I get these weird red patches and bumps as well.  Ive also tried oregano oil internally but  not on my skin.  I like the idea of spraying the acv on and then rinsing off. I find each day hard to continue thats how bad things are.. 

 

where do you buy the pyrthione zinc spray?


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

I have acne prone skin + seborrheic dermatitis. Somehow I kept like 90% both under control for last 3 months.

My regimen:

Topical - shower once a day every day, using grandpa's pine tar soap for the face, after that I spray it with 50:50 ACV / water mix in spray bottle, leaving it 2-4 minutes then rinse under shower without the soap. For the hair I rotate 3 shampoos - one with selenium sulfide, some other with Zinc pyrithione and one with octopirox. After bath sometimes I moisturize with grapeseed oil and few times a week with Zinc pyrithione spray if the SD appear.

Internally - 50 mg Zinc, water kefir morning and evening, recently started taking calcium/ magnesium/ copper because I totally quit dairy accept yogurt and calcium deficiency can cause serious bone/teeth problems also zinc in long term could cause copper deficiency. Almost no sugar, but not 100% tho. I don't drink coffey. Also no sodas and juices sold on market.

 

Well thats about it and works quite well for me so far. I try to relax and just let it go when it comes to argue or somehow im going to get mad cuz stress is really a major factor. I am also considering trying a Zinc PCA cream (anybody tried it?) 

 

Wicky if nothing topical seems to work that good maybe you should focus on vitamins and probiotics.. hmm I don't really know..

 

con eli nice to hear another working regimen, how is oregano oil doing on acne?

The oregano oil does wonders for acne. What I'm now doing is using the oregano oil every other day instead of daily as I found it too irritating. Every other day is much better and still helps tons with the acne AND the seborrheic dermatitis. For the past few days, I've also been using a topical probiotic mask on the nights that I don't use the oregano oil, which I'm really liking. I am using the Yogurt Starter from Natren, which has 2 strains of bacteria which are supposed to be excellent for the skin. One of the strains is also supposed to help with the ceramide levels of the skin. I mix about 1/4 tsp. with 1/2 tsp. of pure aloe vera gel and then apply it as a mask for about 10 minutes. I'll keep you updated as to how it goes.

 

I should also mention that I'm taking the following supplements, recommended to me when I went for microscopic blood analysis. There's a woman who does it in the city where I live and she's got an excellent reputation. I waited 9 months to get in to see her so am following her advice and seeing what happens. I've been using the supplements for about 5 weeks now. They are:

 

- Beta carotene: 25,000 IU daily

- Vitamin E: 400 IU, 2 times daily

- Selenium: 100  mcg daily (or I just eat 1-2 brazil nuts instead)

- Vitamin D3: 4,000 IU, 2 times daily

- Vitamin C Scorbatate powder: 1,000 mg daily

- Zinc Picolinate: 15 mg, 2 times daily

- Natren Health Start System for a probiotic

 

I'm also taking Black Walnut because I had parasites show up in my blood work.

 

Well, again, I'll keep you posted on my progress.

 

Coneli


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:45 AM

Thanks for the detailed reply con eli.

 

Wicky I buy my ZnPT spray from a local pharmacy not sure if you can find it else where but my country.

Here is detailed http://www.borola.co...GinGira_Eng.pdf It's about 15 $ here which last me long time and really making huge difference in my sebderm and works for acne as well.

 

Other cream/moisturizer you may give a try is Salcura Zeoderm Skin Repair Moisturising Cream. I heard a lot of good reviews and I found it even cheaper on amazon than my local pharmacy.


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Posted 01 April 2013 - 06:41 PM

Ok, so this is my second post, both involving this same product, as I haven't gotten any responses to my other thread ill post here. I developed SD after back to back to back course of antibiotics (amoxicillian and clindamycin) so reading on net there is alot of belief that website dermatitis is fungal. As most all fungal use chitin to protect itself I was wondering what anyone though of this "candidacellwallsuppressor.com" hopefully that turns into a link, if not just Google candida cell wall suppressor. It allegedly allows your immune system to attack fungus overgrowth by destroying the protective sheild chitin. Seriously debating trying it, although it's main ingredients is 98% lufeneuron, which is a pesticide. However they claim it is harmless to humans as no human properties use chitin. Any thoughts ideas? I'm desperate I've had acne since 14 and it.Finally finished clearing up at 26, no red marks left, just normal clear very oily skin. And I never used any acne message or topical, just soft soap and spectro jel. Now after back to back antibiotics I'm having so many hyperpigmentation marks my once oily skin is now super dry and flakey, I've NEVER, NEVER had dry skin, always super oily. I'm 27 I got to enjoy normal skin formless than one year after all that suffering....and nowninknow how I loom with clear skin, so this ducks more. DONT TAKE ANTIBIOTICS FOR ANYTHING NON LIFE THREATENING!!!! You will regret it later in the future, especially for acne, just go straight for the accuntane, this isn't a life long course tucking up your gut, causing skin problems later. Anyway check out candida cell wall suppressor, I'm afraid to try it without more opinions. Maybe someone will take the jump with me? Lol.






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