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[Listener]

Hi guys,
I've not read this thread but as i've had SD and completely resolved it, i'll say this:

-Wash with warm water to get rid of all oil. Don't use soaps, especially not shampoo even if it has zinc or ketoconazole in.
-Apply ketoconazole cream liberally (nizoral 2%)
-Avoid gluten and foods which encourage excessive amount of unwanted bacteria in the small intestine (SIBO).
The reason I believe the latter point is because when I went on antibiotics, my SD resolved entirely. (altho antibiotics themselves are not a sustainable solution)

I had severe SD btw.
Avoid soaps and shampoo on your face. Make sure you properly nuke your scalp with nizoral shampoo though. Change pillow case frequently.

[rawr1987]

i was diagnosed with seborreic dermatitis couples years ago. but i only have it on my scalp but i wonder if the doctor that diagnosed me was right? ithe skin on my scalp get pimple like bumps that fill with pus but these bumps are NEVER huge just small pimple but its really annoying when i get it on my hairline cause people can see it he only prescribed me ketokonazole shampoo which help to a certain extent but does not do much really. i kinda learned how to deal with this conditions over the years . i was on accutane last year and of course my SD completely cleared up but i don't wanna go back to accutane cause of the side effects. does anybody has a similar condition??? any treatments suggestions?

[GoingStrong]

There are so many different versions of nizoral on amazon ugh! Can someone give a reccomendation on which to buy and why?
Thanks,

[zb8383]

Hello everyone. I've had this problem for around EIGHTor NINE years now. I'm 23 years old now. This problem occurred when I was going through puberty. I started getting really bad acne. I was a very active kid and still am but have always had the propensity to eat a lot of sugary foods, but I would I also eat good enough at night. Being proud and very judgmental about my own looks, I immediately put products on my face--some over the counter and from dermatologists--which COMPLETEY shattered my face. It was like leatherface. I was/still am a good looking guy (as you all are) but this just debilitated me. And it's literally haunted every waking moment of my life for the last eight years. I am not even the same brightful kid. I'm about to graduate college, however, it's been a struggle to go to classes on most days. My skin isn't as bad now, but there is still lingering redness and constant dryness around nose and cheeks. Nobody knows what it feels like to not even be able to touch your face without some sediment falling from brows, cheeks, hair, etc. It's progressively gotten better, but of course, there are good days and bad days, and as the days go on those bad days get more frustrating; and the good days ain't as good because you're waiting for the inevitable flare-up. NOW THE GOOD STUFF! Everyone on this board can get rid of your SB. It is all intestinal. My advice? Go to a doctor. Get a blood test and wait for every single result. I'm talking hormones (big-time contributor from immune system), parasites, allergies, etc. I'm talking everything-white blood cell count (WBC) and (RBC), organ functioning, etc. There is an inherent problem within all of our bodies. This may have been triggered by excessive stress combined with taking antibiotics WHICH KILLS THE GOOD FUNGI IN OUR BODIES. Your days of taking antibiotics and depending upon something other than your own system are over. I'm guessing everyone on the board went to the dermatologist with the high hopes of getting better. And I bet it did...for a few weeks. Then it came back. Why? A plant's leaf doesn't grow from the soil people, it grows from the roots of the plant. It's in our bodies--the face is the LAST stage for it to show. Change your diet!!! If you reallly want to get better, you need to eliminate sugar TOTALLY from your diet. Take Probiotics (The good fungus!) Please people I want to help you, I know how messed up the Big Pharma is, they want you to keep coming back. In other words, they don't want to cure you!! They want you to get better on the surface. It's tough work but you need to clean out your insides. Seb. D is a fungus that doesn't just grow on the skin, is the aftermath of the bad intestinal flora seeping it's way in the blood stream. Also, chew your food slower and more deliberately so your body has a chance to break down chunks of food--this is another usefull tidbit. I've been prescribed everything and anything (they say I have rosacea too, which is B.s) under the sun, and I recently took it upon myself to make lifestyle changes. The doctor goes "I see the cream has been working" and I go I haven't taken the cream or antibiotics since the last time I came in here. I only went to the dermatologist to prove what a wank he was. If you want help ask me for my OPINION. Been doing my own research on this stuff for a while now. Also, check glucose levels when you go to a REAL doctor--Diabetes=weak immune system=can't process sugar=too much fungi=SB!

[ferb]

From the British Journal of Dermatology,


Seborrhoeic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast


You can view the abstract here:
http://onlinelibrary...hly+maintenance

Anyone care to explain exactly what this is saying? Does this mean all of the anti fungal experiments we've been trying won't really help?

[Moonset777]

From the British Journal of Dermatology,


Seborrhoeic dermatitis is not caused by an altered immune response to Malassezia yeast


You can view the abstract here:
http://onlinelibrary...hly+maintenance

Anyone care to explain exactly what this is saying? Does this mean all of the anti fungal experiments we've been trying won't really help?

I still think it's fungal/yeast related. Accordiing to that report it appears that they have discounted Malassezia yeast as being a main factor in the SD condition. I never thought it was anyway. The causes of SD imho are all internal, candida, diet, poor digestion, leaky gut, weak immune system.

[wicky]

 photo1 (9).JPG   16.96K   17 downloadsso whats the best cure? Ive done the diet thing for over a year...no sugar, barley any grains..only good ones like brown rice or quoina and some buckwheat..i eat lots of veggies and protein. I take supplments..a good multi, zinc, vitimin a & d plus eveing primrose oil supplements. I also take vitamin c...WTF am I missing? I have a patch of red blotches that some days are light pink and others like today are blaring red..They form together to almost look rash like..Ive been applying 2% Ketonazole (sp) cream for the first time ever and after two days its worse...Ive tried protopic but it always comes back...I have dead skin and flakes everywhere over my face and cannot get this under control..I ve applied ACV and it burns like hell and makes it redder and drier...Ive tried a lavender serum and tons of other shit...I was using products from www.gardenofwisdom.com but nothing has helped sooth and get rid of it...The spots are never raised so its not rosacea as its on the lower side of my left face...Heres a pic...can someone pls HELP

Edited by wicky, 19 February 2012 - 12:45 PM.

[Simeon]

Hi guys. I have suffer this since about 4 years caused by Diprosone Creme (cortico steroid) for my acne redspots.. Too late I have been informed that diprosone thicknesses the skin and .. hello seborrhea:( tried so much cosmetic products+specific diets and 1 week max with clean face.. after that it's back with full strenth. I want to share with you someting that is healing me now since 5 months!! The name of my miracle is Zinc Pyrithione. I don't know all producs that include that substance, mine is kinda spray. I can apply direct to my face or 1st to finger that massage areas...anyway, for those who are desperate defenetly try that!
Hope I'v helped.

[wicky]

simeon where did you get it?

[Simeon]

simeon where did you get it?

I bought it from local pharmacy. Not sure if I am allowed to tell the exact name here, but if you want I'll send you pm about what I'm using.

[wicky]

sure simeon

[SaturatedMonkey]

I don't know if anyone has linked to this page, but this guy says to use raw honey and virgin coconut oil to treat it. I am trying it out and I've only been doing it for a few days, but it seems to help. In fact, I just created this account just to post this. Hopefully this will help at least some of you.

http://www.rosaceagr...in-coconut-oil.

[SaturatedMonkey]

I don't know if anyone has linked to this page, but this guy says to use raw honey and virgin coconut oil to treat it. I am trying it out and I've only been doing it for a few days, but it seems to help. In fact, I just created this account just to post this. Hopefully this will help at least some of you.

http://www.rosaceagr...in-coconut-oil.

[SaturatedMonkey]

Actually, that site has a bunch of threads which could be helpful. Check it out.

[Elvin83]

I'm trying this. It's all natural, no chemicals, so it can't hurt.
I'll report back, if it works for me.

Thanks for the link man.

Elvin

[Simeon]

I have a question that I haven't found any kind of answer in the net. Is there a difference between SD that you have because of the genes of your family, and the one that you caused on your own using agressive treatment for acne or someting else using expansive cosmetics that includes chemicals or lazer theraphy? I wonder because my case is the second one - none of my family had ever this desease, and I haven't got SD never before in my life. It appeared 100% after I caused it with treating my redspots after my acne ( lazer+corticosteroid) and the SD I have shows only on my face (I know usually it appears in other areas on the body). And also this may lead to different treatments of SD. Anybody?

[zb8383]

_{Okay, so I was talking to my mom last night. I guess when my mom was pregnant with me she had gestational diabetes. When I was a baby, I had "Baby Acne" on face and in groin area pretty severely. I was allergic to nearly everything and would make my skin worse if I came in contact with anything that was unnatural. For instance, I could only drink Soy Milk and use only sheep skin as a pillow/blanket. I was not breast fed. Babies naturally have a weakend immune system. Up until 14 years old I didn't have any acne/irritations/rashes/allergic reactions until I started tetracycline (acne meds) and used everything under the sun on my face until it was literally burned. Since 14 years old my skin has NEVER recovered--it looks weak, brittle, and red. I was diagnosed with SB when I was 15 and still have it to this day (almost 24). I went to a nuturopathic doctor last week and she informed me that I have Candida (which I already expected). I have oral thrush, hair falling out, terrible scalpe, etc. I also had cradle cap when I was younger. I am getting food intolerance test done and bloodwork on my liver, glucose levels, among many others. So instead of going on this diet right off the bat, I would highly recommend getting blood work and a thorough physical done so you aren't taking stabs at curing something in the dark. I brought the point up of my baby history and diabetes is because I fervently believe it deals with a weakened immune system first and foremost. What causes the weakened immune system? I cannot be for sure--I'm not an M.D. And I am through guessing what symptoms I have and want the SIGNS fact-checked. I feel as though everything is inter-connected with one main problem. I do think genetics plays a part, however, I think these genetics can be put in a dormant phase IF you correct the underlying issue. I'm sure many of you have given up with your regimens and it's definately disappointing to them constantly thwarted by other speculations. If you gather the facts, and not opions, of your overall health with bloodwork and the like, I'm sure many of you will be successful in treating this nuisance of a disease. And don't think you are shallow or that you are wrong in trying to figure out a cure--you just want an even playing field. P.S.--DON'T TRUST ANY DERMATOLOGIST!}

Simeon, I believe that genetics play a role, however, I think they are just brought to the forefront WHEN and IF something like you mentioned described above happens. I'm not entirely sure of your medical history but since you had acne, I'm guessing you were on some type of antibiotic--possibly for an extended period of time. I don't know what role your diet has played as I don't know you and your overall health. But I sincerely, in my own humble opinion, believe that your bout with Seb D. can be put behind you if can dichotomotize the problems of your skin. Dermatitis health is not skin deep, even though it may seem that way. The laser can essentially wipe of the healthy part of the skin and let this yeast to grow. Not sure how old you were when you had acne, but maybe your liver isn't functioning properly. Maybe your antibiotic regimen lasted longer than you would've hoped and you didn't take PRObiotics following this regimen (which dermatologists don't tell you to do). I get what you're saying though; you think that because your SB was triggered by some artificial facial resurfacing can be different. I feel as though it can be corrected; the skin is an organ just like a heart, liver, and kidney. And skin can be rejuvenated if your insides allow your skin to rejuvenate--so long as you didn't permantly scar your face (which I'm sure you didn't). I've been researching and obsessively delving into the subject of skin for years now, and I have gone through the struggles, so I feel your pain. I would first go to both a M.D. and N.D. (naturopath) and get both sides of the story. Please, get your bloodwork done by both doctors and see the differing opinions and synergize them into YOUR overall understanding of this disease. Medical history is important, and sometimes your past, no matter how small a nuance it may be, can resurface itself later in life. Cheers, and good luck.

Edited by zb8383, 25 February 2012 - 04:30 PM.

[manning22]

I just bought this product, Im not sure how well it will work for me, perhaps I will let you know in a week or so. http://www.trustnatu...dermatitis.html

[PinGal]

did you ever get raid of them?

[ferb]

Does anyone else seem to have a seb. derm. outbreaks that occur when allergy season peaks? I have really bad seasonal allergies and for the last 5 years or so I have had a bad outbreak every year around early March at the start of allergy season. Sometimes it goes away all together during other times of the year. The first year the seb derm only stayed for a month or two, but it seems each year it stays a little longer than the year before.

Anyone experience something similar or able to shed any light on this? I figure it must be tied to the immune system somehow.

Thanks.