The seborrheic dermatitis thread

1,014 posts in this topic

Just a question; Does anyone here every have used anti-yeast cream for their seborrheic dermatitis besides for cortisone?

i've also tried ketoconazole. it's just okay. it clears up for a few days and then comes back full force even if i haven't stopped using it. it's definitely better than doing nothing.

I am glad to see this topic. My daughter who is 11 noticed some dryness in and around her ear. small little patches, Then a couple months later she started scratching her head, when I looked in there there are portions that huge dryness of the scalp in areas. I freaked out, we tried the anti dandruff shampoo thinking it was dandruff, but it didn't help.

The doctor said it was Seb Derm, My question is has anyone ever gotten rid of it? Will she have to deal with this for the rest of her Life?

It seems like the medicated shampoo is working some, but not alot.....

So any other suggestions for her would be grateful......

no, no one has ever cured their seborrheic dermatitis once and for all. everything out there is just meant to keep it under control and hopefully get it into remission for as long as possible, from which i heard *can* be a couple of months but it usually only weeks or, more prevalently, days.

i'm actively adding new things to the mix and of course i'll keep you guys updated...

the elidel cream was giving me really bad cystic acne even though i was still using tazorac, so i stopped using it. went back to the derm who had previously stated that i'd have to take cortisone pills, but he suggested ditching the tazorac and going back on finacea. azelaic acid is an anti-fungal and apparently using it to treat SD is the new thing. i have to say, it's not gone but it's looking okay. okay enough to not have to wear makeup, but you can still see it there.

here's my current regimen (too lazy to update my sig right now):

AM- wash with selsun blue moisturizing formula (very gently; dan-style), apply ketoconazole, apply aloe vera gel, apply cetaphil lotion (not the kind from the pump, the really good kind in the jar)

PM- oil cleansing method (in my sig), apply straight ACV, apply finacea, apply ketoconazole, apply cetaphil.

i started tanning the other day...i've only gone once but i do think it made a difference. may be asking my derm if he has UV therapy in the house so my insurance can take care of it and i don't have to spend so much money at the tanning salon.

and i take the following supplements: vitamin c 1000mg, zinc 50 mg, biotin 5mg, vitamin a 3mcg, and an acidophilus pill. may be adding a b6/b12/folic acid pill into the mix.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just a question; Does anyone here every have used anti-yeast cream for their seborrheic dermatitis besides for cortisone?

i've also tried ketoconazole. it's just okay. it clears up for a few days and then comes back full force even if i haven't stopped using it. it's definitely better than doing nothing.

I am glad to see this topic. My daughter who is 11 noticed some dryness in and around her ear. small little patches, Then a couple months later she started scratching her head, when I looked in there there are portions that huge dryness of the scalp in areas. I freaked out, we tried the anti dandruff shampoo thinking it was dandruff, but it didn't help.

The doctor said it was Seb Derm, My question is has anyone ever gotten rid of it? Will she have to deal with this for the rest of her Life?

It seems like the medicated shampoo is working some, but not alot.....

So any other suggestions for her would be grateful......

no, no one has ever cured their seborrheic dermatitis once and for all. everything out there is just meant to keep it under control and hopefully get it into remission for as long as possible, from which i heard *can* be a couple of months but it usually only weeks or, more prevalently, days.

i'm actively adding new things to the mix and of course i'll keep you guys updated...

the elidel cream was giving me really bad cystic acne even though i was still using tazorac, so i stopped using it. went back to the derm who had previously stated that i'd have to take cortisone pills, but he suggested ditching the tazorac and going back on finacea. azelaic acid is an anti-fungal and apparently using it to treat SD is the new thing. i have to say, it's not gone but it's looking okay. okay enough to not have to wear makeup, but you can still see it there.

here's my current regimen (too lazy to update my sig right now):

AM- wash with selsun blue moisturizing formula (very gently; dan-style), apply ketoconazole, apply aloe vera gel, apply cetaphil lotion (not the kind from the pump, the really good kind in the jar)

PM- oil cleansing method (in my sig), apply straight ACV, apply finacea, apply ketoconazole, apply cetaphil.

i started tanning the other day...i've only gone once but i do think it made a difference. may be asking my derm if he has UV therapy in the house so my insurance can take care of it and i don't have to spend so much money at the tanning salon.

and i take the following supplements: vitamin c 1000mg, zinc 50 mg, biotin 5mg, vitamin a 3mcg, and an acidophilus pill. may be adding a b6/b12/folic acid pill into the mix.

I am on a simliar regime as you are. I am glad to see that you are off the Tazorac. Tazorac will for sure make your Seb Derm worse. It sheds your skin off making way for new skin. While this is all going on, you will have very red, dry skin....which is horrible for seb derm suffers. Anyone taking Tazorac with chronic redness, should probably stop and ask their doctor for something else. I have seen Tazorac to be very good in getting rid of pustules, but nothing more.

I wouldn't tan either. Sure, your skin will look "healthier", but in reality it is not and your reddened skin will only get redder. This is just a temporary 'solution'.

And for the people who are considering buying face doctor products....the active ingredient that supposedly works for seb derm can also be found in ZNP bar, which is cheaper. But be careful, any shampoos applied to the facial skin will for sure dry you out because of SSL and other harsh ingredients.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just a question; Does anyone here every have used anti-yeast cream for their seborrheic dermatitis besides for cortisone?

i've also tried ketoconazole. it's just okay. it clears up for a few days and then comes back full force even if i haven't stopped using it. it's definitely better than doing nothing.

I am glad to see this topic. My daughter who is 11 noticed some dryness in and around her ear. small little patches, Then a couple months later she started scratching her head, when I looked in there there are portions that huge dryness of the scalp in areas. I freaked out, we tried the anti dandruff shampoo thinking it was dandruff, but it didn't help.

The doctor said it was Seb Derm, My question is has anyone ever gotten rid of it? Will she have to deal with this for the rest of her Life?

It seems like the medicated shampoo is working some, but not alot.....

So any other suggestions for her would be grateful......

no, no one has ever cured their seborrheic dermatitis once and for all. everything out there is just meant to keep it under control and hopefully get it into remission for as long as possible, from which i heard *can* be a couple of months but it usually only weeks or, more prevalently, days.

i'm actively adding new things to the mix and of course i'll keep you guys updated...

the elidel cream was giving me really bad cystic acne even though i was still using tazorac, so i stopped using it. went back to the derm who had previously stated that i'd have to take cortisone pills, but he suggested ditching the tazorac and going back on finacea. azelaic acid is an anti-fungal and apparently using it to treat SD is the new thing. i have to say, it's not gone but it's looking okay. okay enough to not have to wear makeup, but you can still see it there.

here's my current regimen (too lazy to update my sig right now):

AM- wash with selsun blue moisturizing formula (very gently; dan-style), apply ketoconazole, apply aloe vera gel, apply cetaphil lotion (not the kind from the pump, the really good kind in the jar)

PM- oil cleansing method (in my sig), apply straight ACV, apply finacea, apply ketoconazole, apply cetaphil.

i started tanning the other day...i've only gone once but i do think it made a difference. may be asking my derm if he has UV therapy in the house so my insurance can take care of it and i don't have to spend so much money at the tanning salon.

and i take the following supplements: vitamin c 1000mg, zinc 50 mg, biotin 5mg, vitamin a 3mcg, and an acidophilus pill. may be adding a b6/b12/folic acid pill into the mix.

I am on a simliar regime as you are. I am glad to see that you are off the Tazorac. Tazorac will for sure make your Seb Derm worse. It sheds your skin off making way for new skin. While this is all going on, you will have very red, dry skin....which is horrible for seb derm suffers. Anyone taking Tazorac with chronic redness, should probably stop and ask their doctor for something else. I have seen Tazorac to be very good in getting rid of pustules, but nothing more.

I wouldn't tan either. Sure, your skin will look "healthier", but in reality it is not and your reddened skin will only get redder. This is just a temporary 'solution'.

And for the people who are considering buying face doctor products....the active ingredient that supposedly works for seb derm can also be found in ZNP bar, which is cheaper. But be careful, any shampoos applied to the facial skin will for sure dry you out because of SSL and other harsh ingredients.

I believe i have this condition too on my cheeks under eyes. I also had it on my forhead as well and i bought H&S selenium sulfide shampoo and started washing my hair with that and rubbing it on my forhead. It atcually has made my forhead better and it isnt red or rashy looking anymore. Still a few small bumps but hardly noticable, nothing comapared to whats going on with my cheeks and sides of nose. I havent applied the shampoo to my face yet cause i wanted to see if it would clear my forhead up at all and it looks like it has. I am not still 100% positive i have this, but i have read if you produce a lot more oil and sebum in that area and its red and rashy looking then its mostly likely that. Also when i am washing that area of my face in shower, when u rub your fingers over it, it feels like tiny bumps or microbeads (really rough) and some whiteheads or like white sebum plugs fall off when washing. So i think i am going to start this shampoo on this area too. I see my derm in a week. I was also considering a tanning bed too. I am still dealing with acne around mouth and chin but i know that acne and its totally diff from whats going on my cheeks.


My Vitamin B5 Log

To be upset over what you don't have, is to waste what you do have


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes the 2 last spots (nose wings) are all but gone now.... however,

I dont believe SD will ever 'go away' though. You have to make lifestyle changes until you find a way to live that *keeps* it away.

avoiding stuff that kills bacteria

(medicine, soap, preservatives, alcohols, hot water etc)

more peeling

less washing (water only)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hey guys...obv i can't put the website for it here but i ordered this great stuff online. it's a lotion called "derm essentials" that's 100% natural...coconut oil, tea tree oil, and neem oil are among the ingredients...it's all great for SD and just plain ol' good for your skin anyways.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.

has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

idk, but it sucks. and no, it's not contagious. it's from a fungus that actually pretty much everyone has on their skin at all times but for some reason people who have SD can't fight it off like everyone else can.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dont know if you guys know about these sites:

www.geocities.com/mall_lago/html/sebderm1.html is a decent read about seb derm treatments.

www.dermnet.org.nz/dermatitis/seborrhoeic-dermatitis.html has got some pictures and info (quite a good site for skin complaints in general).

Personally a ketoconazole cream and hydrocortisone 1% work for me. Though I might try ZNP bar as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.

has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

He should try a sulfur soap. I have acne (face & back) and SD (head & face) and Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap works wonders for me (totally cleared up my face & back). Just google it. It's pretty inexpensive. I also use it as shampoo (they also sell a shampoo). Check out the website. :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What is this ZNP Bar? Where do u get it? Thanks


The secret of health for both mind & body

is not to mourn for the past, not to worry about the future, or not anticipate troubles, but to live the present moment wisely and earnestly.

The Buddha


Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ZNP bar is a cleanser made by Stiefel Laboratories . It contains:

Ingredients: Active Ingredient: Pyrithione Zinc 2%

Inactive Ingredients: Cetostearyl Alcohol, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Corn Starch, Disodium Lauryl Sulfosuccinate, FD&C Blue No. 1, Fragrance, Glycerin, Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Mineral Oil, PEG-14M, Silicon Dioxide, Sodium Potassium Lauryl Sulfate, Titanium Dioxide, Trisodium HEDTA, Water.

As far as Im aware, some drugstores sell it in America. Otherwise, I would just do a google search for it and see who sells it online.

Some people do find the ZNP bar can dry out their skin; so you might want to try Dermadoctors born to be mild. Though, this would be the expensive option.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.

has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

He should try a sulfur soap. I have acne (face & back) and SD (head & face) and Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap works wonders for me (totally cleared up my face & back). Just google it. It's pretty inexpensive. I also use it as shampoo (they also sell a shampoo). Check out the website. :)

Hello,

Can you please explain in detail what I can expect treating SD with the 10% sulfur soap?

do you still have some tiny rash? or is it totally away.. For how long are you using this product?

what climate are you living in?

thank you

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
we recently found out my little brother suffers from rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis, and acne on his face. we thought it was just ezcema, since he suffers from that too.

he is 14 and he never wants to leave the house. i feel so bad for him, i can't help. no one should have to deal with this!

i did some research, but i find it all very shoddy and one website says yes to this and another say no to that, it's just frustrating. he went to one derm and they put him on metrogel and he cleared up wihtin a day! but then he went to a diff one, who gave him retin a and said metrogel was bad. before that he was trying coal tar soap, and then gentle cleanser, steroid, and then milk on magnesea.

has anyone gotten rid of this? how is there no cure?! it's all over his face! is it contagious?

im just at alost on how to help him. he does have a lot of dandruff as well we have selson blue and nizoral 2%.

He should try a sulfur soap. I have acne (face & back) and SD (head & face) and Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap works wonders for me (totally cleared up my face & back). Just google it. It's pretty inexpensive. I also use it as shampoo (they also sell a shampoo). Check out the website. :)

Hello,

Can you please explain in detail what I can expect treating SD with the 10% sulfur soap?

do you still have some tiny rash? or is it totally away.. For how long are you using this product?

what climate are you living in?

thank you

I live in South Florida (mostly hot & humid but I'm indoors a lot). I have been using the sulfur soap for about 3 months. My SD does not show. All flakes and itches are gone. I must use the soap everyday or the symptoms will come back. I have SD in my ears and in my nose but I use a 2.5% prescription hydrocortisone cream about once a week for that.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
thank you... In or on the nose? can you check for me.. immediately after washing rub tightly with your fingers push hard over your nose area.. if there are still some really tiny rashes? I tried another sulphur soap and helped me good but I still got tiny rashes after I did that... that's for me the major check../test I am at the moment trying to get the best results..

but not all combinations go well.

I am at the moment trying sapropell with Apple cider vinegar.. but thinking about going back on the sulphur and than maybe put coaltar-aloevera gel on it as well.. I have also good results with a coaltar sulphur based creme.. but only when you apply it really thin. after I put some thin layer of vaseline on it.. control it over a year now.. but the treatment is too much time consuming. I don't want to use ketakenozol or any other steroids cause on the long run your skin and your collagen will replace or will go away.

yeah, i'm mostly clear right now except for tiny rashes around my nose, and sometimes my eyelids feel itchy...ive been using ACV for about two weeks now and i think it's working really well. i also use aloe vera every day. currently i use the oil cleansing method at night and in the morning i alternate between sulfur soap (kills the SD), oat & peppermint soap (gently exfoliates & dries out oil), and selsun blue (kills the SD; only using it every couple of days because i don't want the sulfates to break me out). and yeah, i spend so much time taking care of my face every day...basically have to plan my life around this huge regimen... :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Joellie. I have SD on my scalp, face (nose and below my eyes/cheeks), in my nose, in my ears. Between the sulfur soap and shea butter as moisturizer, I have no more symptoms. No more flakiness, no more itching, no more redness below my eyes/cheeks. I found sulfur works better for me than coal tar or salicylic acid.

My dermatologist had prescribed to me Luxiq foam for the scalp and 2% hydrocortisone for face, in ears and in nose but I didn't want to use steroids too often. Luxiq works, is quite strong but also very expensive (over $100 without insurance) but it's also not good to use too often.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hi Ceci,

thank you.. but it sounds that you have Rosecea or a combination cause normally SD wouldn't get on the cheeks... but I can be wrong.. anyway I think it's worth trying for me.

how about letting the sheabutter away did you already try that..?

bye

hi shepinabottle,

thank you too. I already tried AVC with really good results.. but after a time I got really horrible skin build up.. the yellow flakes.. So I don't know..on the long run.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
hi Ceci,

thank you.. but it sounds that you have Rosecea or a combination cause normally SD wouldn't get on the cheeks... but I can be wrong.. anyway I think it's worth trying for me.

how about letting the sheabutter away did you already try that..?

bye

hi shepinabottle,

thank you too. I already tried AVC with really good results.. but after a time I got really horrible skin build up.. the yellow flakes.. So I don't know..on the long run.

Hi. It's definitely SD. The redness was more below my eyes (like how football players put that black line under their eyes but mine was red). Shea butter's great. Non-comedogenic. I use a small pea sized amount for my face and neck and stay moisturized all day.

Have you tried drinking ACV? That works great for skin and body aches among other things. Detoxes the body like you wouldn't believe.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So i should go pick up some sulfur soap to treat this? Any suggestions for a brand i can get at Wal-mart?

How long till i see signs of improvement?

Im on accutane as well, will that be a problem?

Also i must not understand all this but 18 now. Will i still have this when im 30?

I guess I dont understand the lifestyle of this condition.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

hi Ceci,

Yes I tried drinking AVC and it definitely helps for a while.. I think sometimes you must skip a week cause than it will lose its effectness. but sure try it.

the red is on a strange place... but differtent people different places :)

I will try. keep you updated.

bye

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
So i should go pick up some sulfur soap to treat this? Any suggestions for a brand i can get at Wal-mart?

How long till i see signs of improvement?

Im on accutane as well, will that be a problem?

Also i must not understand all this but 18 now. Will i still have this when im 30?

I guess I dont understand the lifestyle of this condition.

if there's a whole foods anywhere near you, you can definitely get it there. there's a good one that i use called grandpa's thylox soap. lather it up in your hands, pat the lather onto your face, leave for 60 seconds, and rinse.

just DON'T RUB, and use a really intense moisturizer since you're on acctuane. don't wanna go drying yourself out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i joined this board just for this thread. i've had SD for 6 years now (i'm 21) and still flaring up to this day. there were moments when my SD would rarely flare up but that was about 2 years ago. i dont know how i did it but it just died down a bit. it sucks that this is a chronic skin condition because i hate going out when the SD is really bad. i have SD around my nose creases, eyebrows, forehead and scalp. it all started in the scalp when i was 12-13 years old. my dermo had me use those keta shampoos all my life and it does help a bit for controlling but nothing impressive. i hate the fact that i cant take a shower without using an SD shampoo. i want to be able to just take a shower without prescriptions. i dont think i can go camping anymore since my SD would flare if i dont properly wash my scalp and face. i pray that a dermatologist find a cure for this disease. after 6 years of having it, my self-esteem has dropped and taking showers become a 10 minute thing rather than 3 minutes (i'm a guy). i hope when i get a lot older it'll just give up on me and die out naturally. there's my two cents on SD. just wanted to get that out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just read from page 1 and I cant believe people are just treating it externally. You SHOULD also treat it internally. Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest). I really think it's BS whenever I hear SD's are not curable. Doctors want you to believe that so you'll keep coming back paying more and buy those prescription medications. You will never hear from a dermatologist that diets affect your seborrheic dermatitis.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I just read from page 1 and I cant believe people are just treating it externally. You SHOULD also treat it internally. Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest). I really think it's BS whenever I hear SD's are not curable. Doctors want you to believe that so you'll keep coming back paying more and buy those prescription medications. You will never hear from a dermatologist that diets affect your seborrheic dermatitis.

SD is incurable :naughty:

Diet has not conclusively proved in one way or another that it affects SD.

Same mumbo jumbo as ACNE. People say "oh diet is causes pimples which it has not been scientifically proven"

SD can be treated and controlled but never cured. Trust me, I've done my research.

Might wanna do yours..

People with SD have weak immune systems that for some reason just cannot fight off the malassezia furfur on our faces.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Starve the yeasts and you will most likely kill those malassezia yeasts on your face. Eat alkalizing foods, stop eating those sugars (just google the rest).

First, Google is not a doctor. Second, sugar has no effect on malassezia because every little kid out there would have it. And lastly, SD is not connected to intensinal yeast.

People with SD have weak immune systems that for some reason just cannot fight off the malassezia furfur on our faces.

People with SD do not have weak immune systems but have a genetical skin problem. Eg. their skin is irritated by oleic acid produced by yeasts. Everyone has malassezia on their skin.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a New Account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now