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#1 neverforget

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:31 PM

Hi folks.

Basically I've been eating a lot of fruit lately which acts as a substitute to my normal biscuits or whatever. Now I know that Fruit & Veg help significantly for fighting against acne, but where should I draw a limit? I understand that Fruit is full of sugar, so basically how much should I try to take?

I have reasonably mild Acne at the moment. My biggest problem is my red marks, that is what i'm really trying to get rid off.

Thanks a heap in advance. Any advice would indeed be great!

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:54 PM

restricting calories and smaller portions are great for fading red marks. Try to get a lot of sleep and cut back on hot drinks like tea and coffee, which tend to make red marks more visible.

I would limit your fruit to one piece a day on an EMPTY stomach...NOT first thing in the morning!

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 20 2009, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
restricting calories and smaller portions are great for fading red marks. Try to get a lot of sleep and cut back on hot drinks like tea and coffee, which tend to make red marks more visible.

I would limit your fruit to one piece a day on an EMPTY stomach...NOT first thing in the morning!


why "NOT first thing in the morning"?

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 08:34 PM

I found eating two to three pieces a day really helped me out a lot, once I had stopped bumps slowly came back in. I'm not a big water drinker either so I got alot of my fluids from them. I don't understand the fear of the sugars that come with fruits. Aren't our body's made to handle the natural sugars and break them down. wink.gif

I would think granulated sugar and things processed would be one. Hey I could be wrong but its just a thought I had after someone posted a statement similar to that. I would usually eat a banana for breakfast, an apple later and maybe some grapes whenever I want to snack. It kills any sugar craving I may get for a candy bar at times. smile.gif

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 05:53 AM

Hey folks,

thanks a lot for all the answers!

Meat Pirate: What about Green Tea? It's a great source of antioxidants I hear, so it should help with red marks?

JadedPoet: I've heard that Grapes and Bananas can trigger Acne and that grapes are a bad source of carbohydrates? I read that from another topic on here whixh stated the following:

Good Carbohydrates
Almonds, hazelnuts and walnuts
Apples, peaches, pears and plums
Blueberries, cantaloupe and blackberries
Asparagus, cabbage, broccoli, spinach
Beans â�‚��€œ black, kidney or lima
Slow cooked Oatmeal (not instant)


Bad Carbohydrates
Breads, Processed Cereals
Fruit Juices and Dried Fruit
Grapes, Oranges, Banana
Carrots, Peas, Corn, Potatoes
Rice, Pasta
Pancakes, Waffles

Once again, thanks for all the help. Much appreciated biggrin.gif

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 06:03 AM

Fruit is not bad for you! Suger from fruit is different to normal "table sugar" found in sweets and chocolates ect

Fructose (sugar from fruit) is broken down by the body slowly and is converted into
SUCROSE and GLYCOGEN. Fructose is often recommended for, and consumed
by, people with diabetes or hypoglycemia, because it has a
very low Glycemic Index

Glycemic index (you see those packs in the shop saying low GI) is a ranking system for
carbohydrates based on their immediate effect on blood glucose levels

Basically Fruit sugar is better for you than table sugar.
When you eat table sugar (Sucrose) your bodies go out of sync with
our sugar levels as the sugar is processed in the body extremely fast
and in doing this the body informs the pancreas to pump out insulin.
Someone with a weak pancreas will have a hard time doing this.

Fructose (fruit sugar) is broken down more slowly which allows the
body more time to react to the sugar that has been consumed. This
puts less stress on the body and also the pancreas.

So basically fruit sugar is very different and i wouldnt worry about eating it! I eat alot of fruit since it readily available where i stay, banana and paw paw even growns wild in my back yard! and i haven t broken out

But still, all things in moderation, if your body is not used to alot of fruit you may have a runny tummy!

i found a website with alot of info on this topic, here is the link

http://blog.natural-...uits-good-acne/

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 10:12 AM

It varies from person to person and what else you eat. The only fruit I worry at all about are the ones I am allergic to.

And don't eat excessive amounts of anything.
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Posted 21 April 2009 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (MissMuffit @ Apr 21 2009, 06:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Basically Fruit sugar is better for you than table sugar.
When you eat table sugar (Sucrose) your bodies go out of sync with
our sugar levels as the sugar is processed in the body extremely fast
and in doing this the body informs the pancreas to pump out insulin.
Someone with a weak pancreas will have a hard time doing this.

Fructose (fruit sugar) is broken down more slowly which allows the
body more time to react to the sugar that has been consumed. This
puts less stress on the body and also the pancreas.


Table sugar actually contains more fructose than the typical fruit (sucrose is made up of one glucose and one fructose molecule). Using your logic, this would mean that table sugar is healthier than fruit sugar.

And fructose isn't really the "fruit sugar" at all. Fruit contains fructose, glucose, sucrose, as well as some starch. Fiber is also a component of fruit's carbohydrate content.

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And don't eat excessive amounts of anything.


Nor should you eat too little of anything. wink.gif


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Diet (I stick to this as much as I can): eggs; meat; poultry; wild-caught seafood; vegetables; fat sources from coconut oil, olive oil, and butter; fruit as I crave it; tea; and purified water. I buy organic and/or pastured foods as I reasonably can, but I think that it's the type of foods you eat, and not the quality of food (within reason, of course) that most determines how healthy you will be.

I highly recommend green smoothies as nutrition powerhouses. They are good on so many levels.

Now experimenting with a higher proportion of legumes, nuts, and seeds in my diet.

I eat absolutely no gluten. I limit intake of all grains, but up to two servings of non-glutenous grain a day is fine. I avoid all added sugar--high fructose corn syrup, sugar, honey, etc. I stay away from soybean oil, canola oil, sunflower oil, and other oils not named olive or coconut. I base my diet off of whole, unprocessed foods, and I prepare them in healthful, delicious ways.

Daily exercise. Sunlight whenever possible.

Supplements: Currently? None. Supplements that have helped in the past (and I can personally recommend) are fish oil, zinc, apple cider vinegar, Vitamin D.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE (rakbs @ Apr 21 2009, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Table sugar actually contains more fructose than the typical fruit (sucrose is made up of one glucose and one fructose molecule).


A material contains more fructose then a serving of fruit? That makes no sense, it's like saying ciment contains more calcium then a watermelon.

Anyways, fructose shmuctose, fruit contains vitamins , and fiber, and phytonutrients, and water, and yes, some small quantity of sugar. If you're gonna binge on anything, binge on fruit. At least, I dare you too. At some point you will feel inevitably full from all that water and fibre. I personally stop at 2-3, because I can't eat anymore. Compare that to even drinking a can of coke, which has 12 teaspoons of sugar. How many teaspoons of sugar can you eat from eating fruit? Not that many. And how much coke can you drink a day? I've done 3 liters, and I wasn't even thirsty.

Oh, and if you're gonna eat fruit, go for the seasonally available kinds - apples, pears etc. Bananas ehhhh waay too starchy. I personally consider it the potato of the fruit kingdom tongue.gif.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (meat_pirate86 @ Apr 20 2009, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
restricting calories and smaller portions are great for fading red marks. Try to get a lot of sleep and cut back on hot drinks like tea and coffee, which tend to make red marks more visible.


This is the first I've heard of tea aggravating red marks. Where did you hear that? Ugh.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (suzushii @ Apr 21 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, fructose shmuctose, fruit contains vitamins , and fiber, and phytonutrients, and water, and yes, some small quantity of sugar.

Amazing how much sweetness there can be in an apple. Hmmm, is that really a "small" quantity of sugar? Getting out calculator... Lessee, random Internet source #1 says some random apple has 6 grams of fructose per 100 grams of apple. Hmm, so how big is an apple? I tend to eat those big ol' Red Delicious, so I'll go with 9 ounces, or 255 grams. OK, so 6 * 255 /100 = 15.3 grams of fructose.

It's tricky figuring out how much fructose is in a can of Coke (and, as with apples, can only be an approximation since Coke has always altered their recipes to suit regional variations in taste). Random Internet source #2 (that uses a lot of big words, which is why I picked it!) claims there's about 15 grams of fructose. Wow, that's creepy how they came out equal! I wonder if I got the math right on that?

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If you're gonna binge on anything, binge on fruit.

Of course, if fructose malabsorption contributed to acne, that could be very bad advice. Even moreso since the fructose malabsorption literature claims it's the ratio of fructose/glucose that makes the intestinal problem worse, and something like an apple has a much higher ratio than a Coke (55/45 by most accounts). OTOH, it could help explain why some people are frustrated to find that giving up "sugar" (by which they mean sugar in some packaged product) in exchange for "eating healthy" (by which they mean eating lots of sugar via fruits or -- god help us -- smoothies that densify the sugar content to insane levels) didn't help their acne.

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (databased @ Apr 21 2009, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (suzushii @ Apr 21 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyways, fructose shmuctose, fruit contains vitamins , and fiber, and phytonutrients, and water, and yes, some small quantity of sugar.

Amazing how much sweetness there can be in an apple. Hmmm, is that really a "small" quantity of sugar? Getting out calculator... Lessee, random Internet source #1 says some random apple has 6 grams of fructose per 100 grams of apple. Hmm, so how big is an apple? I tend to eat those big ol' Red Delicious, so I'll go with 9 ounces, or 255 grams. OK, so 6 * 255 /100 = 15.3 grams of fructose.

It's tricky figuring out how much fructose is in a can of Coke (and, as with apples, can only be an approximation since Coke has always altered their recipes to suit regional variations in taste). Random Internet source #2 (that uses a lot of big words, which is why I picked it!) claims there's about 15 grams of fructose. Wow, that's creepy how they came out equal! I wonder if I got the math right on that?

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If you're gonna binge on anything, binge on fruit.

Of course, if fructose malabsorption contributed to acne, that could be very bad advice. Even moreso since the fructose malabsorption literature claims it's the ratio of fructose/glucose that makes the intestinal problem worse, and something like an apple has a much higher ratio than a Coke (55/45 by most accounts). OTOH, it could help explain why some people are frustrated to find that giving up "sugar" (by which they mean sugar in some packaged product) in exchange for "eating healthy" (by which they mean eating lots of sugar via fruits or -- god help us -- smoothies that densify the sugar content to insane levels) didn't help their acne.




I cannot eat ANY fruit. None at all. of course right now I go party every night and im not sleeping optimally so thats partly why. I can eat a little if i live perectly but screw that. Anyway It definately contributed to the acne that i got last summer when i did a very extreme diet change (only fruits and veggies)...I had the most horrible acne. Huge and they left big scars all over me. I cant really eat any form of sugars whether its processed shi* like pasta bread and candy or fruit sugars & lactose sugars....they do contribute to severe acne for me. Alot of people here will tell you that fruit is so good for you etc....and it might help some...but if you start eating alot of fruit and it breaks you out or your acne becomes worse... yeah its probably fruit. I stick to a very strict meat, fat and small amounts of vegetables type diet.. that is the only thing that has helped fade my red spots.. but it is a sacrifice at the beginning...after that it becomes second nature, as most diets do if you fall in love with how they make you feel.



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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:23 AM

QUOTE (suzushii @ Apr 21 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A material contains more fructose then a serving of fruit? That makes no sense, it's like saying ciment contains more calcium then a watermelon.


I should have said that: table sugar has a similar proportion of calories from fructose (upon digestion) as fruit.

50% of the carbohydrates from table sugar come from fructose. This ratio is very similar in other fruits; in many instances, sugar has a higher proportion.

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Oh, and if you're gonna eat fruit, go for the seasonally available kinds - apples, pears etc. Bananas ehhhh waay too starchy. I personally consider it the potato of the fruit kingdom tongue.gif.


If you advocate binging on fruit, I have to ask, what's wrong with starch?
Clear for 8+ months now through striving for optimal fitness levels, stress levels, sleep, nutrient density in my body, and an overall holistic lifestyle approach.

Diet (I stick to this as much as I can): eggs; meat; poultry; wild-caught seafood; vegetables; fat sources from coconut oil, olive oil, and butter; fruit as I crave it; tea; and purified water. I buy organic and/or pastured foods as I reasonably can, but I think that it's the type of foods you eat, and not the quality of food (within reason, of course) that most determines how healthy you will be.

I highly recommend green smoothies as nutrition powerhouses. They are good on so many levels.

Now experimenting with a higher proportion of legumes, nuts, and seeds in my diet.

I eat absolutely no gluten. I limit intake of all grains, but up to two servings of non-glutenous grain a day is fine. I avoid all added sugar--high fructose corn syrup, sugar, honey, etc. I stay away from soybean oil, canola oil, sunflower oil, and other oils not named olive or coconut. I base my diet off of whole, unprocessed foods, and I prepare them in healthful, delicious ways.

Daily exercise. Sunlight whenever possible.

Supplements: Currently? None. Supplements that have helped in the past (and I can personally recommend) are fish oil, zinc, apple cider vinegar, Vitamin D.

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Posted 22 April 2009 - 06:48 AM

I try to stick to couple pieces of fruit per day, in order to keep the sugar down. I eat multiple salads, raw carrots, and raw peppers to get in the rest of my fruit and vegetable servings.

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE (Addie @ Apr 22 2009, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I try to stick to couple pieces of fruit per day, in order to keep the sugar down. I eat multiple salads, raw carrots, and raw peppers to get in the rest of my fruit and vegetable servings.


Peppers? I love them, but I hear they annoy acne? I wish I were able to eat them!

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 10:59 AM

what about strawberries? (they're vegetables right!?). I just ate 2 kg of strawberries. should I be worried?

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Posted 27 June 2009 - 11:00 AM

QUOTE (neverforget @ Apr 21 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi folks.

Basically I've been eating a lot of fruit lately which acts as a substitute to my normal biscuits or whatever. Now I know that Fruit & Veg help significantly for fighting against acne, but where should I draw a limit? I understand that Fruit is full of sugar, so basically how much should I try to take?

I have reasonably mild Acne at the moment. My biggest problem is my red marks, that is what i'm really trying to get rid off.

Thanks a heap in advance. Any advice would indeed be great!


It's down to you. If you can eat alot of fruit and not break out from it, then you may aswell. I'm pretty sure if I eat too much fruit I will break out between my eyebrows...it's so annoying!
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Posted 24 May 2013 - 12:36 AM

From my experience, stay away from fruits. If they are your only source of sugar or carbs, 2 maximum fruits a day



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Posted 24 May 2013 - 12:18 PM

Yah. I'd like to cut the fruits but my mom keeps trying to stop me telling me it is unhealthy. Pretty annoying. Anyway, fruits are full of sugar and in my mind eating one of them is just like eating a spoon of table sugar.so I try to cut down on them especially dry fruit. Those are the worst. Everyone is different. I watched a video of a fruitarian on YouTube where it got rid of his acne. I think for teens where acne is usually caused by the natural insulin resistance we should avoid fruits if we already know that sugar triggers out acne.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 12:39 PM

Yah. I'd like to cut the fruits but my mom keeps trying to stop me telling me it is unhealthy. Pretty annoying. Anyway, fruits are full of sugar and in my mind eating one of them is just like eating a spoon of table sugar.so I try to cut down on them especially dry fruit. Those are the worst. Everyone is different. I watched a video of a fruitarian on YouTube where it got rid of his acne. I think for teens where acne is usually caused by the natural insulin resistance we should avoid fruits if we already know that sugar triggers out acne.

Unfortunately I am not a teenager (I am 23 years old). I guess for someone like me, I have to live a life filled with eating food that gives zero enjoyment. Everyone around me is eating sugary goodness while I am confined to my home eating animal fat. Ridiculous eh?