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Good Things For The Many Factors That Lead To Acne

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If safflower oil doesn't work for me, what other oils should I buy from napa? I know it's a trial and error process... I already bought more than a dozen wash clothes :D

I have Wegmans, which is like Whole Foods. I will try to get it there!

I buy Napa Valley Naturals.

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If safflower oil doesn't work for me, what other oils should I buy from napa? I know it's a trial and error process... I already bought more than a dozen wash clothes :D

I have Wegmans, which is like Whole Foods. I will try to get it there!

I buy Napa Valley Naturals.

Grapeseed, but that tends to be a bit more comodogenic. Or hemp which is lower in linoleic acid, but also gas omega 3 EFAs that could be beneficial.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Would it be benefitial to put a drop of peppermint essential oil in the boiling water for the washcloth and a drop of green tea extract to rub together with the safflower oil in the beginning?

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Peppermint is very irritating. I know St. Ives has a peppermint scrub that absolutely did bad things to my skin.

Would it be benefitial to put a drop of peppermint essential oil in the boiling water for the washcloth and a drop of green tea extract to rub together with the safflower oil in the beginning?


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Fantastic post! You clearly know what you're talking about. I agree with the majority of what you've written here and glad to see you're guiding people on the right path.

For me, it wasn't until I adopted a good diet and avoided processed foods that I managed to cure my acne condition, not surpress; people can learn alot from this post. Keep up the great work :)

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Andy

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From my time suffering with acne, and learning from some amazing individuals in the alternative medicine scene, I witnessed that presciption medications and topicals will only treat the symptoms of an acne condition, the cause is due to high body toxicity, something that you can address right now by adopting a proper diet along with excercise.

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Bump. just to keep thread from being archived.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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@alternativista, don't know if I should post here, sorry in advance ;D (I can't direct message you). I've seen you post a lot and have solid knowledge about diet and acne. The thing is, in the last 7 months I cut out completely from my diet sugar, dairy, chips, fast-food, oceanic fish, high glycemic index food, corn, eggs, bananas, grapes, nuts, almonds, soda etc. and it's going great. I also think I might breakout from chicken (hormone filled?). I had severe acne and now I'm 6 months off the antibiotics, my face and back are clear and the worst breakout is something like 3-4 cysts that go away in less than 5 days (as opposed to constantly having 30 40 cysts that either never went away, or it would take a month or two to completely vanish). I am scheduled in a month to start Laser Genesis treatment and my question is: Do you think I'll have to keep this diet my whole life? I am 25 years old by the way. A test for food allergies and intolerances would help me? Thanks for your posts, have a nice day :)

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@alternativista, don't know if I should post here, sorry in advance ;D (I can't direct message you). I've seen you post a lot and have solid knowledge about diet and acne. The thing is, in the last 7 months I cut out completely from my diet sugar, dairy, chips, fast-food, oceanic fish, high glycemic index food, corn, eggs, bananas, grapes, nuts, almonds, soda etc. and it's going great. I also think I might breakout from chicken (hormone filled?). I had severe acne and now I'm 6 months off the antibiotics, my face and back are clear and the worst breakout is something like 3-4 cysts that go away in less than 5 days (as opposed to constantly having 30 40 cysts that either never went away, or it would take a month or two to completely vanish). I am scheduled in a month to start Laser Genesis treatment and my question is: Do you think I'll have to keep this diet my whole life? I am 25 years old by the way. A test for food allergies and intolerances would help me? Thanks for your posts, have a nice day :)

I would try adding things back into your diet especially things like eggs, fish, nuts. Never drink soda or other sugary drinks again. And yes, I would try testing for intolerances if you have the funds. I suspect that cystic acne tends to be caused by an intolerance. For me it's citrus.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I would try adding things back into your diet especially things like eggs, fish, nuts. Never drink soda or other sugary drinks again. And yes, I would try testing for intolerances if you have the funds. I suspect that cystic acne tends to be caused by an intolerance. For me it's citrus.

Thank you. Spoke to my derm a few days ago and he said I have to keep this diet for my whole life, which I just can't fathom. I could do with a balanced diet, eating the stuff I didn't eat here and there, but completely cutting out all that food can't be right, it must be a way to cure this disease, other than having that strict diet for all my life.

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I would try adding things back into your diet especially things like eggs, fish, nuts. Never drink soda or other sugary drinks again. And yes, I would try testing for intolerances if you have the funds. I suspect that cystic acne tends to be caused by an intolerance. For me it's citrus.

Thank you. Spoke to my derm a few days ago and he said I have to keep this diet for my whole life, which I just can't fathom. I could do with a balanced diet, eating the stuff I didn't eat here and there, but completely cutting out all that food can't be right, it must be a way to cure this disease, other than having that strict diet for all my life.

Did he say why? Where do you live? What kind of doctor is he?


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Did he say why? Where do you live? What kind of doctor is he?

Dermatologist, Romania. He said it's because of my genes I have to keep a hypo insulinic (spell?) diet for all my life, which doesn't make any sense, because I'm sure there have been thousands and thousands of people with the same kind of acne and genes as mine, that got cured without keeping a diet. Truth be told, my skin has been very clear in the last 9 months or so, the worst breakout I had was 3 weeks ago and I'm sure it was from drinking too much orange juice (Pfanner, no added sugar), for two weeks straight (more than 1L/day). I had like 6-7 cysts that went away in a matter of 7-10 days, far from what I had when my acne was at it's worst. The problem is, I don't know how my body will react if I start eating even low quantities of pasta, pizza, rice, eggs for example. Best case scenario would be keeping a balanced diet and hoping the Azythromyicin (finished a 4 month course, 6 months ago + Skinoren) did his job, while I get rid of the scars.

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Did he say why? Where do you live? What kind of doctor is he?

Dermatologist, Romania. He said it's because of my genes I have to keep a hypo insulinic (spell?) diet for all my life, which doesn't make any sense, because I'm sure there have been thousands and thousands of people with the same kind of acne and genes as mine, that got cured without keeping a diet. Truth be told, my skin has been very clear in the last 9 months or so, the worst breakout I had was 3 weeks ago and I'm sure it was from drinking too much orange juice (Pfanner, no added sugar), for two weeks straight (more than 1L/day). I had like 6-7 cysts that went away in a matter of 7-10 days, far from what I had when my acne was at it's worst. The problem is, I don't know how my body will react if I start eating even low quantities of pasta, pizza, rice, eggs for example. Best case scenario would be keeping a balanced diet and hoping the Azythromyicin (finished a 4 month course, 6 months ago + Skinoren) did his job, while I get rid of the scars.

Yeah, I knew he couldn't be an American doctor.

Every human should avoid high glycemic diet habits. But that doesn't mean you can never eat a high glycemic/insulinemic food. It's the whole meal that matters, (By meal I mean sum of all you eat/drink at any given time so also means drinks & snacks between meals.)

And that certainly doesn't explain why you shouldn't eat eggs & fish which are low glycemic. BTW, When you drink orange juice, you might as well be drinking sugar, so it should be on your list of things not to do. And if you do, make it part of a meal that includes fiber & fat to reduce the glycemic impact of the meal. Like eggs.

The antibiotics aren't going to cause a permanent or even temporary change to your acne prone tendencies. Once you stop taking them, whatever they did for you will stop.

Also, a healthy diet won't 'cure' this disease or any other. It controls the disease or condition. Because it's the lack of healthy diet, exercise, sleep etc that causes the conditions to develop.

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Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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thanks for your answers. I think my safest bet is to keep this strict diet for the time matter and see a few different dermatologists, in hopes that maybe I can have some sort of laser treatment (and maybe topical), before I go back to eating everything and see what happens :)

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Alternativista,

First of all thank you so much for all the information you are willing to share with us all. I find it very useful.

You say your main trigger was citrus (oranges), I might have missed it in this thread, but how did you come to know this was a big factor in causing your acne? By ways of experimentation or a food intolerance test?

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Alternativista,

First of all thank you so much for all the information you are willing to share with us all. I find it very useful.

You say your main trigger was citrus (oranges), I might have missed it in this thread, but how did you come to know this was a big factor in causing your acne? By ways of experimentation or a food intolerance test?

Citrus was the trigger for my severe cystic acne. I had grotesquely oily skin and other kinds of acne as well. And I figured it out by luck. One winter, when citrus is plentiful & cheap and I started having it as an afternoon snack each day expecting to be good for my skin, my skin got much worse. Then, a coworker who had watched my and my cystic acne filled skin eat oranges everyday for weeks without saying a word, came in one morning ranting that she had 2 big glasses of orange juice for weekend breakfast and now her chin was broken out. She otherwise had perfect skin so she was able to easily figure out the connection for her. I'm still annoyed that she new this and didn't mentioned it as a suggestion for me. And it was over 20 years ago.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Alternativista,

First of all thank you so much for all the information you are willing to share with us all. I find it very useful.

You say your main trigger was citrus (oranges), I might have missed it in this thread, but how did you come to know this was a big factor in causing your acne? By ways of experimentation or a food intolerance test?

Citrus was the trigger for my severe cystic acne. I had grotesquely oily skin and other kinds of acne as well. And I figured it out by luck. One winter, when citrus is plentiful & cheap and I started having it as an afternoon snack each day expecting to be good for my skin, my skin got much worse. Then, a coworker who had watched my and my cystic acne filled skin eat oranges everyday for weeks without saying a word, came in one morning ranting that she had 2 big glasses of orange juice for weekend breakfast and now her chin was broken out. She otherwise had perfect skin so she was able to easily figure out the connection for her. I'm still annoyed that she new this and didn't mentioned it as a suggestion for me. And it was over 20 years ago.

Great. I can understand the annoyance as well! What is your perspective on food intolerance testing? Do you think they are accurate? I find it very difficult to find out what foods I might be intolerant for.

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fwiw I asked 3 dermatologists about getting tested for food allergies and intolerances and they all said they are useless for acne.

American Dermatologists, right?

Alternativista,

First of all thank you so much for all the information you are willing to share with us all. I find it very useful.

You say your main trigger was citrus (oranges), I might have missed it in this thread, but how did you come to know this was a big factor in causing your acne? By ways of experimentation or a food intolerance test?

Citrus was the trigger for my severe cystic acne. I had grotesquely oily skin and other kinds of acne as well. And I figured it out by luck. One winter, when citrus is plentiful & cheap and I started having it as an afternoon snack each day expecting to be good for my skin, my skin got much worse. Then, a coworker who had watched my and my cystic acne filled skin eat oranges everyday for weeks without saying a word, came in one morning ranting that she had 2 big glasses of orange juice for weekend breakfast and now her chin was broken out. She otherwise had perfect skin so she was able to easily figure out the connection for her. I'm still annoyed that she new this and didn't mentioned it as a suggestion for me. And it was over 20 years ago.

Great. I can understand the annoyance as well! What is your perspective on food intolerance testing? Do you think they are accurate? I find it very difficult to find out what foods I might be intolerant for.

Depends on what kind. it can't be the standard test for IgE antibodies that cause an immediate response and is all most allergists & doctors care about. It has to look for other antibodies and other inflammatory responses.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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fwiw I asked 3 dermatologists about getting tested for food allergies and intolerances and they all said they are useless for acne.

fwiw I asked 3 dermatologists about getting tested for food allergies and intolerances and they all said they are useless for acne.

American Dermatologists, right?

Nope, romanians.

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