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#1 AutonomousOne1980

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Posted 04 January 2009 - 06:26 PM

i thought this was impressive, but like all studies and any indirect information im skeptical of course, but it looks pretty legit and also double blind which is supposedly highly accurate, perhaps its worth trying. i guess this is a place to buy it. http://www.silicol.com/index.html
or even perhaps taking a silica supplement would help

heres a thread on it thats doesnt sound promising though http://www.acne.org/...-gel-t9877.html

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The effect of silicol gel compared with placebo on papulopustular acne and sebum production. A double-blind study.

Lassus A.

Department of Dermatology, Helsinki Research Center, Finland.

Altogether 30 patients (19 females and 11 males), mean age 19 years, were divided randomly into two groups. All patients had chronic papulopustular acne of the face. A total of 15 patients were treated topically with Silicol gel for 20 min twice daily for 6 weeks and the remaining 15 patients were treated with a placebo gel in a similar fashion. A clinical evaluation was carried out at baseline, and after 2, 4 and 6 weeks of treatment. The clinical variables evaluated were as follows: number of comedones, papules, pustules and cysts on a standard area of the left cheek (area 5 x 5 cm) and measurement of sebum production on the same area by the use of Sebumeter SM 810 PC (Courage and Khazaka, Ltd, Germany). No concomitant treatment was allowed during the study period. One patient using Silicol gel withdrew after 2 weeks of treatment because of severe irritation of the facial skin, leaving 29 patients who could be evaluated. In the active group, the number of comedones decreased from a mean of 48.5 to 15.1 after 6 weeks of treatment. The corresponding figures for papules were 10.7 and 1.0, for pustules 6.8 and 0, and for cysts 0.6 and 0. In the placebo group no improvement could be observed. There was a highly significant difference in efficacy between the two groups (P < 0.001) in favour of the actively treated group. The mean sebum index was 193 at baseline and 88 after 6 weeks. Correspondingly in the placebo group the mean sebum index at baseline was 187 and after 6 weeks 179. This difference between the two groups was also statistically significant (P < 0.001). After a short follow-up period (3 months) no deterioration was observed in the 14 'active' patients, showing either complete cure or improvement.
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#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:14 PM

I have used silica topically, and had a reaction similar to the patient who left the study. My skin became so dry and irritated it actually cracked and bled. This was with less than 10% concentration.

BUT - I don't have oily skin. I have dry, easily irritated skin. I can see where it could help if the main culprit on an individual basis were excess sebum.
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 07:33 PM

QUOTE (ayla @ Jan 4 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have used silica topically, and had a reaction similar to the patient who left the study. My skin became so dry and irritated it actually cracked and bled. This was with less than 10% concentration.

BUT - I don't have oily skin. I have dry, easily irritated skin. I can see where it could help if the main culprit on an individual basis were excess sebum.


same here my skin is never oily at all.

To bad you didnt have any good results, like everything else, its like whatever.
#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.
#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.
#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.
#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.
#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.
#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.
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Posted 04 January 2009 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (ayla @ Jan 4 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have used silica topically, and had a reaction similar to the patient who left the study. My skin became so dry and irritated it actually cracked and bled. This was with less than 10% concentration.

BUT - I don't have oily skin. I have dry, easily irritated skin. I can see where it could help if the main culprit on an individual basis were excess sebum.


What silica did you use? Can you get it in premade topicals, or do you have to make it yourself?
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (rakbs @ Jan 4 2009, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ayla @ Jan 4 2009, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have used silica topically, and had a reaction similar to the patient who left the study. My skin became so dry and irritated it actually cracked and bled. This was with less than 10% concentration.

BUT - I don't have oily skin. I have dry, easily irritated skin. I can see where it could help if the main culprit on an individual basis were excess sebum.


What silica did you use? Can you get it in premade topicals, or do you have to make it yourself?



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