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Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:26 PM

effu, stay FAR away from HQ, in the long run, HQ and even natural derivatives of it, like Arbutin can cause collagen and elastic break down, amongst other issues like cell damage etc

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 06:40 PM

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:10 AM

This sparked my interest. It sounded like an old cure my parents once told me. I asked them about it last night - turns out turmeric is what they were talking about

They told me they both had deep acne scarring but were too poor to afford any treatment. Turmeric was used every night and washed off in the morning. Apparently it cured their scars.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 02:41 AM

Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:30 AM

i have heard the same of nutmeg. have to say this is bs without having tried it. i tried the nutmeg a few times.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:59 AM

Hello,thanks for sharing this info, I want to try thus out! Luckily I got rid of my acne and red marks but I have some scarring I need to repair!!! Even something to improve the scarring by 50% would be great!!! Scars really really suck!

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.

Did you completely disregard Helio's post that is right above yours?

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 12:10 PM

QUOTE (battwoman04 @ Jan 2 2009, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey everyone,

Bicarbonate of soda mixed into a paste with a little water gets the stain out! And then just wash with your normal foaming cleanser. If you use a flat ended cosmetic cotton bud to apply turmeric paste to your face you will not stain your hands! whistling.gif0


thanks! i havent had the chance to buy it today, i also do not have yoghurt in my house as suggested by another forumer, but after washing my face again when i woke up, the yellow tinge is more or less gone. though i felt that there was still a teeny weeny bit of yellow, perhaps a psychological thing. eusa_shifty.gif

that also got me thinking about what someone wrote earlier in this thread, would the yellow turmeric and my yellow asian skin really add up to me being more yellow?! indians are the main users of this skincare method, and yellow turmeric might have a more complementing effect on their brown skin, as well as for those with white skin.

actually im getting a bit lazy just thinking that i not only have to mix the turmeric powder into a paste, which applying it wasnt that a breeze as bits and pieces of remnants would fall off (leaving the yellow stain on the skin to work) so i have to apply in the toilet and clean up the sink and surrounding areas after that, and then now i have to mix a bicarbonate paste to wash off the stains. would the bicarbonate be drying for the skin?

i guess that says im not that desperate at this point to be willing to put in that little more effort. i have actually been eyeing led lights to help in my skin, and as crazy as it is, i think i am more willing to spend the money on lights (~$500) than spend the time and effort on the turmeric! eusa_silenced.gif

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 12:14 PM

oh yes, having said that, with the short 5 mins of putting the turmeric paste on my skin (cheeks, forehead, chin), this bulging pimple which had been a resident for days did decrease a little. i would think its due to the turmeric as i had not applied any other product on it that night. smile.gif

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 03:05 PM

if you don't want to apply it to your skin you can just add some turmeric to water and drink it! Just as good but probably not as quick to get results.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 03:16 PM

I wouldn't use Baking soda to get the staining off guys. Baking soda is extremely alkaline - it breaks down your skin's acid mantle, which is your first defense against pimples in the first place.

Apply the paste at night, wash off after 15 mn (or longer - but I wouldn't advise overnight). Use a wash cloth with cleanser or oil. Not all the staining will come off initially if you are fair. But the following morning's wash should take the remainder off - did for me and I'm super pale.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.



What r u try say kaori this post it say acne scar it does not mean it cant heal all scar but if u don't try it out a month u can not know result and everything have to take time. Turmeric Know as fade scar also but if u got scar that will never fade try vitamin e oil, At least i try to help!!!!

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (tth1990 @ Jan 3 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you completely disregard Helio's post that is right above yours?

No. i didn't completely disregard Helio's post. My statement still stands, Turmeric will not fill in tissue loss atrophy permanently.. no matter how many new members pop on this board and disagree with me.


QUOTE (LPN455 @ Jan 3 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.



What r u try say kaori this post it say acne scar it does not mean it cant heal all scar but if u don't try it out a month u can not know result and everything have to take time. Turmeric Know as fade scar also but if u got scar that will never fade try vitamin e oil, At least i try to help!!!!

Im not saying your not trying to help. Im saying Turmeric will not fill in indented atrophic scarring. Nor will vitamin E! if anything it MAY give the appearance of improvement, but if anything, it will be only temporary.

For example: I have very bad atrophic (indented, pitted) scars on my cheeks. I can apply a clay mask, leave it on overnight..wash it off the next morning and my skin will look 80% smoother. This is no miracle, the clay temporarily tightened my skin giving the appearance of improvement. This improvement is by no means permanent.

LPN455- are you by any chance selling this turmeric?

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:21 PM

I hope whoever is trying this takes some before and after pictures.
Even though i don't believe it will work, that doesn't mean it isn't worth a try,

right?





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Posted 03 January 2009 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tth1990 @ Jan 3 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you completely disregard Helio's post that is right above yours?

No. i didn't completely disregard Helio's post. My statement still stands, Turmeric will not fill in tissue loss atrophy permanently.. no matter how many new members pop on this board and disagree with me.


QUOTE (LPN455 @ Jan 3 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.



What r u try say kaori this post it say acne scar it does not mean it cant heal all scar but if u don't try it out a month u can not know result and everything have to take time. Turmeric Know as fade scar also but if u got scar that will never fade try vitamin e oil, At least i try to help!!!!

Im not saying your not trying to help. Im saying Turmeric will not fill in indented atrophic scarring. Nor will vitamin E! if anything it MAY give the appearance of improvement, but if anything, it will be only temporary.

For example: I have very bad atrophic (indented, pitted) scars on my cheeks. I can apply a clay mask, leave it on overnight..wash it off the next morning and my skin will look 80% smoother. This is no miracle, the clay temporarily tightened my skin giving the appearance of improvement. This improvement is by no means permanent.

LPN455- are you by any chance selling this turmeric?



I don't got any turmeric i only buy at my asian store and as i say many time it not going be 1 day treatment, It not miracle for u but if u use it a month it maybe!

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tth1990 @ Jan 3 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you completely disregard Helio's post that is right above yours?

No. i didn't completely disregard Helio's post. My statement still stands, Turmeric will not fill in tissue loss atrophy permanently.. no matter how many new members pop on this board and disagree with me.


QUOTE (LPN455 @ Jan 3 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.



What r u try say kaori this post it say acne scar it does not mean it cant heal all scar but if u don't try it out a month u can not know result and everything have to take time. Turmeric Know as fade scar also but if u got scar that will never fade try vitamin e oil, At least i try to help!!!!

Im not saying your not trying to help. Im saying Turmeric will not fill in indented atrophic scarring. Nor will vitamin E! if anything it MAY give the appearance of improvement, but if anything, it will be only temporary.

For example: I have very bad atrophic (indented, pitted) scars on my cheeks. I can apply a clay mask, leave it on overnight..wash it off the next morning and my skin will look 80% smoother. This is no miracle, the clay temporarily tightened my skin giving the appearance of improvement. This improvement is by no means permanent.

LPN455- are you by any chance selling this turmeric?



Until you have some research backing up your factual statements that turmeric cannot help atrophied scarring, I kindly ask you to exit this thread.

Further - I've made my presence in both LPN's thread known - If there had been any indication of his trying to sell turmeric, I would've booted him. He suggested buying it at an asian grocery, not his ebay.

some readin material:

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CURCUMIN-INDUCED FIBROBLAST APOPTOSIS AND IN VITRO WOUND CONTRACTION ARE REGULATED BY ANTIOXIDANTS AND HEME OXYGENASE: IMPLICATIONS FOR SCAR FORMATION.
Scharstuhl A, Mutsaers HA, Pennings SW, Szarek WA, Russel FG, Wagener FA.

Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Radboud University Nijmegen Medical Centre, Nijmegen Centre for Molecular Life Sciences, Nijmegen, The Netherlands.

Fibroblast apoptosis plays a crucial role in normal and pathological scar formation and therefore we studied whether the putative apoptosis-inducing factor curcumin affects fibroblast apoptosis and may function as a novel therapeutic. We show that 25 muM curcumin causes fibroblast apoptosis and that this could be inhibited by co-administration of antioxidants N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), biliverdin or bilirubin, suggesting that reactive oxygen species (ROS) are involved. This is supported by our observation that 25 muM curcumin caused the generation of ROS, which could be completely blocked by addition of NAC or bilirubin. Since biliverdin and bilirubin are downstream products of heme degradation by heme oxygenase (HO), we hypothesized that HO-activity protects against curcumin-induced apoptosis. Interestingly, exposure to curcumin maximally induced HO-1 protein and HO-activity at 10-15 muM, whereas, at a concentration of >20 muM curcumin HO-1-expression and HO-activity was negligible. NAC-mediated inhibition of 25 muM curcumin-induced apoptosis was demonstrated to act in part via restored HO-1-induction, since the rescuing effect of NAC could be reduced by inhibiting HO-activity. Moreover, pre-induction of HO-1 using 5 muM curcumin protected fibroblasts against 25 muM curcumin-induced apoptosis. On a functional level, fibroblast-mediated collagen gel contraction, an in vitro wound contraction model, was completely prevented by 25 muM curcumin, while this could be reversed by co-incubation with NAC, an effect which was also partially HO-mediated. In conclusion, curcumin treatment in high doses (>25 muM) may provide a novel way to modulate pathological scar formation through the induction of fibroblast apoptosis, while antioxidants, HO-activity and its effector molecules act as a possible fine-tuning regulator.


source: http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18410527
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (ayla @ Jan 3 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (tth1990 @ Jan 3 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you completely disregard Helio's post that is right above yours?

No. i didn't completely disregard Helio's post. My statement still stands, Turmeric will not fill in tissue loss atrophy permanently.. no matter how many new members pop on this board and disagree with me.


QUOTE (LPN455 @ Jan 3 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Turmeric may help fade Red Marks (hyperpigmentation left after acne) but...don't be fooled.

Turmeric will do absolutely NOTHING to fill-in and permanently level/remove atrophic (indented, shallow, deep, ice pick, rolling boxcar etc. or any kind of pitted/indented scarring)

.. if you believe your atrophic scars will magically fade away, be prepared to deal with a "magically" Yellow face and huge disappointment.

No offense to the original poster... Turmeric may work great to fade Hyperpigmentation, but this topic should be moved to the Red Mark forum. It does not belong in the scar forum as Red marks are NOT SCARS.



What r u try say kaori this post it say acne scar it does not mean it cant heal all scar but if u don't try it out a month u can not know result and everything have to take time. Turmeric Know as fade scar also but if u got scar that will never fade try vitamin e oil, At least i try to help!!!!

Im not saying your not trying to help. Im saying Turmeric will not fill in indented atrophic scarring. Nor will vitamin E! if anything it MAY give the appearance of improvement, but if anything, it will be only temporary.

For example: I have very bad atrophic (indented, pitted) scars on my cheeks. I can apply a clay mask, leave it on overnight..wash it off the next morning and my skin will look 80% smoother. This is no miracle, the clay temporarily tightened my skin giving the appearance of improvement. This improvement is by no means permanent.

LPN455- are you by any chance selling this turmeric?



Until you have some research backing up your factual statements that turmeric cannot help atrophied scarring, I kindly ask you to exit this thread.

Further - I've made my presence in both LPN's thread known - If there had been any indication of his trying to sell turmeric, I would've booted him. He suggested buying it at an asian grocery, not his ebay.

Im not trying to be sarcastic, but of all people, do you actually think Turmeric will fill in atrophic scars? I kindly ask for evidence that it can...seriously. This too will fall to the wayside along with the Holistic Rock Juice cure, vinegar method and countless other miracle cures that didn't work. Why is it then, that no one else is flocking to this topic, tossing their dermarollers, cancelling their fraxel appts.etc..when topical Turmeric is the miracle scar filler they have been searching for? give me a break.

There is an obvious lack of communication here, as Redmarks are NOT scars. Thats all im saying. As a moderator, I respectfully believe you should know that.

I'm fairly sure (like countless others) the OP thinks Redmarks are scars.

Im not discounting the OP claims on Turmeric fading Redmarks.

Time will tell. Good luck to you all. I'm done here.



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Posted 03 January 2009 - 11:04 PM

uhhh.. did you read the study I posted?

here's more:

inhibition of phosphorylase kinase activity by topical curcumin gel results in
resolution of increased T lymphocyte population in inflammatory skin disease (psoriasis, eczema, burns,
acne) thus accounting for the anti-inflammatory activity of curcumin gel (Heng et al, 2000). Clinically,
curcumin in the form of a topical gel has been observed to have anti-inflammatory properties and to
decrease redness and inflammation in sun-damaged skin. It has been observed to produce healing of
superficial burns with minimal or no scar formation. Our observations also include a decrease in scarring
in acne and pseudofolliculitis with curcumin gel. We had previously reported that curcumin gel produced
resolution of psoriasis, correlating with suppression of phosphorylase kinase activity (Heng et al, 2000)

Proliferating cell nuclear antigen
(PCNA) is expressed in both premalignant (actinic keratoses, solar lentigenes) and malignant (basal cell
carcinoma, squamous cell carcinoma and malignant melanoma), as well as in non-malignant cell
proliferation (psoriasis, eczema). By inhibiting phosphorylase kinase, curcumin thus benefits
photodamaged cells by inhibiting serine/threonine kinases (e.g. IκBά kinase, a kinase responsible for
NFκB activation; MAP kinases responsible for cell proliferation; and Akt responsible for increased cell
survival of photodamaged cells. Curcumin also inhibits cyclin kinases involved in cell cycling. By its
action on tyrosine kinase inhibition, it inhibits growth factor dependent proliferation. By upregulating the
p53 suppressor gene, it promotes apoptosis of photodamaged cells, and promotes p53-dependent cell
regulation, and inhibits cell transformation.

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im not trying to be sarcastic, but of all people, do you actually think Turmeric will fill in atrophic scars? I kindly ask for evidence that it can...seriously. This too will fall to the wayside along with the Holistic Rock Juice cure, vinegar method and countless other miracle cures that didn't work. Why is it then, that no one else is flocking to this topic, tossing their dermarollers, cancelling their fraxel appts.etc..when topical Turmeric is the miracle scar filler they have been searching for? give me a break.

There is an obvious lack of communication here, as Redmarks are NOT scars. Thats all im saying. As a moderator, I respectfully believe you should know that.

I'm fairly sure (like countless others) the OP thinks Redmarks are scars.

Im not discounting the OP claims on Turmeric fading Redmarks.

Time will tell. Good luck to you all. I'm done here.



Maybe it will help, maybe it won't. Evidence points to a strong possibility that it may.

And thank you, but I am well versed in the different types of scarring and hyperpigmentation.
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 11:15 PM

I'm not trying to argue with you. Yes, as the OP said ..I see it could help with hyperpigmentation..the healing of superficial burns (Im assuming fresh burns and new acne lesions which could eventually leave an atrophic scar) I see nothing that says Turmeric will fill in old atrophic acne scars. if i missed something please let me know.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 11:21 PM

QUOTE (=Kaori= @ Jan 3 2009, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not trying to argue with you. Yes, as the OP said ..I see it could help with hyperpigmentation..the healing of superficial burns (Im assuming fresh burns and new acne lesions which could eventually leave an atrophic scar) I see nothing that says Turmeric will fill in old atrophic acne scars. if i missed something please let me know.



Well if u got that kind bad scar then i don't think even magic can help u or if u rich u can make it fade for million buck everything can fade =)