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Posted 10 August 2013 - 01:58 PM

I last took accutane june of 2010. I never thought my face would still be giving me problems. If I knew that accuane would have created a whole new problem that seems incurable I would have never done it and just let my nasty cysts go away over time. Now nearly 3 years later the zits are at a minimum but my skin is nastier looking and constantly red all the time. Sometimes it gets even worse, I can usually feel it in my face when it does. Right now on the regimen the BP is making my skin even more red than normal.

 

Does anyone have a secret to fixing this? It is so insanely irritating I've tried so many different things (regimen, emu oil, etc.). I just want my face to be the normal skin color. Should I stop using products on my face all together?

just dont irritate your face with products....

try these hope it hlps...

1.wash ur face once in a day with no water.... like cetaphil or ponds cream cleanser ..

2. moisturise .

3. if u feel its kindaa dry just apply misturise without cleansing

4.while u wash or apply moisturiser do not massage o anything. BE GENTLE.

5. donot touch your face

6.ur hair away from face

7. sleep on ur back



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Posted 01 September 2013 - 10:45 AM

Hey Lamarr and Seattle,

  I hope you guys are doing well and I know it has been a while. I would like to update you both on my progress and hear how things are going with you. If either of you see this post please post back and I will respond shortly. 



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 03:51 PM

can anyone offer an update here? Jordan1234 - can we hear what you've been doing and how you are doing?

 

Thanks



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 06:29 PM

Lamarr & Seattle don't come on here much. I can tell you that Lamarr has his email on his profile if you want to get in touch with him. Hope everyone is doing well and Happy Holidays & New Year : )


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:15 AM

Hi guys

My symptoms are flushes and flushes of heat, triggers

change of temperature especially the winter after meals, stress, anxiety, Sun, sport, shower etc...

Since 4 November 2013, every beginning of month I am strong vbeam treatment with purpura, I did my 4th early this month and still me have the last (for now) the early March 5th.

After all the evil that I gave myself and after reading some testimonials, I was hoping good results for my rosacea triggered by roaccutane, unfortunately I do not even know if my condition is improving, so it's subtle, I even feel that I have the redness that is gaining ground.

So I want to try plaquenil, see if it can help me. I would make the updates.

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 04:15 AM

Please my friends I would like to have help, I read all 59 pages.

Flushs give me a hard life, I also kinda evil to the joint, hair loss and dry skin.

I did 5 strong vbeam with purpura in 5 months, I don't see any improvement at the moment and I started taking clonidine since 1 month and plaquenil for 5 weeks, the clonidine helps me, but I hope the plaquenil is going to heal me like Lamar or I will try the mepacrine like him.

But please I saw that you know much about roaccutane effects I would like advice to cure my skin it spoils me life!

I took 40 mg for 6 months for miserable buttons in the back in 2008 and I did not learn...!



I eat balanced, I cut quick lactose and sugar apart from honey and fruit for over 2 months and I don't see any improvements. I try to not eat gluten also for 2 week, but I lost weight and found over what to eat,.

I bought juicer, red LED but I stopped because makes me red, complement food, probiotics, kefir... As I saw no results I began medication to calm inflammation and hoping to heal with the antimalarial.
So, now, I take 3 * 0.75 mg clonidine/day and 1 tablet 200mg plaquenil and 1/2 Tablet 100 mg at night hoping that it heals me, also I take milk thistle, turmeric, red wine extract and Borage Oil.


Please give me tips to heal, do I do cure liver and kidneys?

What take as complement hemp oil I I put on my skin but it doesnt...

I can even make sport otherwise I becomes all red for hours!
I have to stop soccer and bodybuilding!

Oli girl you no longer takes plaquenil? CA you cure your rosacea?

Sorry for the questions and my text and draft and that I do not speak English I use a translator sorry.thank you for your understanding.

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Posted 15 July 2014 - 12:40 PM

  Dear co-sufferers, victims and survivors of the modern age,

 

  Let me to introduce myself first. I'am writing from a small shithole country in Europe, and had my first problems with acne soon after the 1999 and my final year of Grammar school. I had severe, cystic, abomination-like acne that made me to conclude that Accutane is worth a shot. I had a strong therapy, and after the treatment the severity of my problem was gone. But today, almost 15 years after the remedy, I can cryout loud > It was not worth it!!!@ (for anyone ever considering to use it)

 

  My first side effects, which I was unaware coming from the drug (what could I say, I was just a kid, thinking about completely different things of joy), arrived while I was on a treatment, and during my soccer match. I felt that my face started to fry and melt, my friends would comment how terrifying I looked. I was red as coming from the deepest corners of the Underground. Ever since, this sensation would turn to be a common reaction whenever my heart started to beat with faster rate. Not just sports, but whenever I felt anxious and stressed. I could tell you that my high-school was a nightmare. I started to feel embarrassed and frightened in almost every social situation. My very low self esteem came from the scars which were left to remind me every day how unlucky I was. But God only knows that only my strong will and readiness to battle on made me through the environment that had no understanding of what I was going through. To make things worst, I didn't also. I was convinced that this was something deep and emotional that brought these problems, I was convinced that simple drug cannot bring such a havoc. These were the days when my parents lost their jobs, and situation in my family was not good to say at least. I had no right to have a problem. This made me suffer more.

 

  My College days were as painful as you can guess. With just a little money, and stressful situations at every corner, my nightmare days started to be unbearable. Dry skin and lost weight could tell that something is very wrong. In one point, I had 59kg, which with my 185cm height simply made me look like a 20-something with a skeleton of a 13-year old boy. My memory was very poor and had digestive disorders. I had to find the answers, but without money and the medical system being here so unprepared for such an unusual problem (very conservative), I had little options. No medical test, exam, could point to any illness. My best was to look into myself, by myself. And my great saga started there.

 

  As being always strongly connected with Nature, I deeply believed that we, as living organisms and being part of it, must search there for answers. Diet was first which I tried to change. I began my research and shortly understood that for living organisms to thrive, beneficial parasites (gut bacteria, etc.) are important, and for living organisms to deteriorate - pathogenic parasites (gamma positive bacteria, fungi, mites, worms, etc.) should be blamed. ANTIBIOTICS, in translation - ''anti-living'', are used to kill everything that lives in us, including the billions of beneficial microflora that lives under our skins, in our lungs, stomach and intestines. In contrary, PROBIOTICS (''pro-living'') are used to repopulate intestines. My first approach was anti-candida diet and this went well. I cut sugar, processed foods to a minimum, as being possible in my position. I have gained weight. But flushing was still there, along other problems. Varicocoela surgery soon after made me to again use antibiotics and this made me astray from the healing path. I lost weight again. Had to use some strong antifungals soon after and this has lifted my flushing in great extent. But since I had no money for continual use I had to find some alternative. But I was convinced that this was fungal. So I went the all-protein diet (as much as I could) but this brought me just more health issues and my acne getting back so I had to turn from that. I have somehow finished my MSc somewhere in this time.

  Soon after my first job and I have decided to let it go, not to be troubled by my troubles and not worry. This approach was good, but all of the problems were still there. Acne bursts were more frequent, guess from the crappy food I took.

 

  But after I lost my job, I started again to research and spent enormous time in trying to solve my health problems. I was listening my body very carefully and was able to hear its responses. One day I realized that it is the table salt that has made all my skin problems. This, along with the cooking oil. Not just that my acne bursts were controlled, but I was able to run and sprint more than any one else on the court, my concentration was back on, and constant mucus in my throat was gone. (I do not still drink water after any physical exhaustions and I am always never thirsty biggrin.png). My self-esteem was back on. But anxiety-caused flushing was still there. This was not much of my concern until I got my new job – to teach in a local highschool. Ironic, I thought at first. To arrive where my problems started. And this is when I started to research more, as my social anxiety induced flushing were unbearable to have in my position. Here I understood that this was all allergy inflamed problems. This is when I came to histamine. Diet with low histamines brought almost complete reduction with my anxiety and flushing. But this varied from day to day, as I was still eating something that either contained or induced histamine release. Stopped alcohol as a major histamine concentrated product also. I started juicing. This was incredible. For the first time after 15 years I had high temperature and flu like condition for days. and paradoxally, I knew this was good (try reading Malahov, says that we get ill when we are fighting the germs). Afterwards I felt so happy that I would simply sing by myself from happiness. But again, there were situations I would flush. I researched more, and these were the days when I finally thought of Accutane, for the first time after using it. And here I am now.

 

  Now, everything has sense to me. This thread is incredible. It is incredible fact to finally hear that my problems are not because of my mental disorder, but that this is common for all of us who have taken this demonic drug. I researched even more, and here are the things that I can conclude and which will help anyone that has made the same error as we did >>

 

1.    Antibiotics kill our microflora that in normal conditions habitats our skin and our intestines.

       After the completed treatment, fungi spreads. Rosacea and flushing must be a fungal condition in origin. Histamines that hostile microflora are producing cause inflammation. Not just our skin, but our organs and intestines, thence the IBS and why Accutane is banned in most of the civilized countries. Powerful enough probiotic would help I guess, but no tablets as they cannot settle in the gut (there are analyses which show that even the alive yogurt cultures cannot sustain after they are digested).

       It was interesting for me to read here that some of you almost had no flushes when in arid areas, with constant temperature (Israel, etc.). This could be explained by the unadequate conditions for a fungi growth (low humidity and sunshine).

       Microflora not only controls our emotions and brains (I could go ancient Egypt and mummificitaion of intestines and stomach) but they are essential for the synthesis of VITAMIN K and VITAMIN B complex. (when you are low in vitamin K, vitamin D cannot do the job, thence the osteoporosis and joint pain, etc. in post accutane sufferers. B12 is one of the most essential vitamins for our neurological system, and there are analyses that tell how it is almost unabsorbable when digested, thence has to be synthesized in the gut)

2.    Accutane is a retinoin, and accumulates wherever oil is in our bodies (skin follicules and liver). Many of our problems resemble the HIPERVITAMINOSIS A symptoms. http://ajcn.nutritio.../6/575.full.pdf

       Question is how to eradicate Vitamin A from our bodies. Liver cleanse is a must.

http://www.breathing...ver-cleanse.htm

       Oil metabolism is being impacted. Avoid food high in Vitamin A (carrot, etc.)

3.    Abondon all histamines in your diet, as they produce inflammation. This is tough dough, as they are almost in every food. But avoid the most dangerous ones. http://www.histamine...y/the-food-list

4.    Take antioxidants. Vitamin C is one of the most available one. Betaine from beet is very good as anti-histamine (use it raw).

5.    Take control of salt intake (sodium). There should be a balance between Mg, Na, Ca, and Potassium in our bodies (which our modern diet do not provide, as we all have enormous Na and Ca intake – thence calcifications). Actually isotretionin impacts our renin-angiostenzin system, affecting our salt and heart metabolism.

 

 

I will most certainly try the anxiolytic remedy (proposed in this thread), but the CAUSE of our problems will be still there, right?

 

What I was thinking of, we all had acne in a first place. So, all our bodies had a problem before a problem right? It would be nice to try to debunk why we had acne. I have realized that many of you here are either homosexual or lifting weights, so it would be a common sense to conclude that you had acne because of the hormonal disbalance. It would be astraying to go this path and blaming hormones for post-accutane side-effects (Jordan, I would love to hear your experiences man). But if your acne started to appear somewhere afterwards you started lifting weights, hormones would be a strong implication for your problems. But what for the rest of us? It would be magnificient if we could all post if we had similar background, this way we could narrow down the cause of our problems.

 

What I top as the most plausible cause of our problems, are:

 

1.antibiotic treatment in early childhood (i had alway stomach pains when i was ill, possible connection with absence of beneficial bacteria)

2.amalgam fillings and teeth decay( still have plenty of those, possible connection with mercury)

3.living with animals from early childhood (dog was always in our house, possible connection with demodex mites)

 

 

Best wishes for you all and feel free to contact me,

 

PS would love to hear from the pioneers of this thread, Lamar, Soul, Jordan, Shantelle, Seattle and others, to see how are they doing now and if any new advices. Cheers


Edited by geosrb, 16 July 2014 - 08:09 AM.



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