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Hey soul I am glad to hear that you are having some success with remeron, I hope you continue to see improvement. I am curious to know what you mean about sometimes not knowing that you are flushed. I am in a very similar situation. I have been off accutane for pretty much exactly one year now. Minocycline was making my flushing much worse, which I stopped taking like 3 months ago. When I was on minocycline and flushed my face would be burning and feel like it was suffocating. After I stopped taking it the biggest improvement I saw was the intensity of the flushing like you are talking about. I was still putting Klaron lotion on at night up until like two weeks ago. Currently I still can get somewhat flushed on a daily basis, all depending on the heat/stress situations that I am put in, but the majority of my flushing I can hardly feel. I am hoping that this is an improvement and a step on the way to not flushing at all, what do you think? Also, do you constantly have redness on your cheeks even when you are not flushed? Not anything near the severity of the redness when flushed, but still noticeable. I seem to have constant redness on my cheeks and up to the temples, I guess it is more pink now than red, but still a noticeable difference than my normal skin tone.

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Hey all, here is my 1 week update on Remeron...

I am knocking LOUDLY on wood as I type this because I have already seen some improvement.

Pros

- less intense flushing (I do not get that deep burning, heat flushing as much, only had it once this past week where as prior to the meds I had it almost daily)

- no flushing or burning at all at night

- sleeping almost like a baby. waking up once every 3-4 hours so maybe twice or 3 times a night which is almost back to normal, prior I was waking every 1 to 2 hours, which was around 5-6 times per night.

Cons

- Do feel heavy footed throughout the day, more tired but I am able to push through it and carry on with all normal activities but when it is time for bed I feel like a just finished a marathon some nights, which is actually probably good thing.

- Not really a con, but still getting some flushing, but the severity, frequency, duration (length it takes to go back to normal) have all changed for the better.

- Kind of a weird con, but now that I no longer get the burning or heating sensation, like your blood is boiling under your skin in your face, I never really know when I am flushing these days. If I am in a situation where I used to flush I will glance into a mirror and be a little red, but more of a pink or a look as if I was in the sun for the afternoon, which is still not back to normal but MUCH better then the "Whoa, your face is red" I used to get because I looked as if I had fallen asleep on a beach or in a tanning bed, I would call the former lobster red, where as now more like a pinkish or slightly red glow.

- I am sooooooo hungry all the time, but lost weight since I stopped working out a few months back due to the flushing, yeah lost weight, I have a high metablolism. I am just eating smaller more frequent meals and healthy snacks, like apples, bannanas, seeds and dried fruit etc. So not really a biggie for me now.

Anyways, my doctor says things will get better with time and that the full effects are not reached until around week 4-6. At that point we will gadge my anxiety/flushing and sides and then decide on bumping up to 30mg or not.

Keep in mind I am also taking Clonidine and Ativan (occasionaly) but did not start seeing some decent improvement until adding the Remeron a week ago, so it could be a combo of all 3 working together.

I will keep everyone posted and report back in a couple more weeks.

Best of luck to eveyone. Keep the faith and stay positive friends.

That is great to hear man, i can also report i am definenetly seeing improvement.... I seem to be really lucky in that i have no sides other than the jumpy thing that i told you about. Even the sleepyness has kinda worn off. I am not sleepy during the day atall...

I had a couple of days where i seemed to be more hungry than normal but i workout with weights (have always stuck to aprox a 3.5k calroies diet) so i can handle the extra calroies ok *touch wood*. 15 mg is actually the best for flushing in general, you probably read natajlas posts on a rosacea forum, she mainly takes 30 because the sides at 15 are to high. She also sees Dr Chu... I think the only way i will go up to 30 mg is if i start seeing my weight increase, but after a week i havent seen much in the way of that!!

Chu seems to think there is an effect seen when combining the clonidine and remeron, that you wouldn't definenetly get with the remeron by itself...

I am glad you are seeing improvement and the good news is you should see some more over the next ffew weeks.

Best of luck

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Hey soul I am glad to hear that you are having some success with remeron, I hope you continue to see improvement. I am curious to know what you mean about sometimes not knowing that you are flushed. I am in a very similar situation. I have been off accutane for pretty much exactly one year now. Minocycline was making my flushing much worse, which I stopped taking like 3 months ago. When I was on minocycline and flushed my face would be burning and feel like it was suffocating. After I stopped taking it the biggest improvement I saw was the intensity of the flushing like you are talking about. I was still putting Klaron lotion on at night up until like two weeks ago. Currently I still can get somewhat flushed on a daily basis, all depending on the heat/stress situations that I am put in, but the majority of my flushing I can hardly feel. I am hoping that this is an improvement and a step on the way to not flushing at all, what do you think? Also, do you constantly have redness on your cheeks even when you are not flushed? Not anything near the severity of the redness when flushed, but still noticeable. I seem to have constant redness on my cheeks and up to the temples, I guess it is more pink now than red, but still a noticeable difference than my normal skin tone.

Hey, I am the same, still flushing on a daily basis, but it's more of the situations I put myself in. ie. A month or two ago, I would sit in my room and flush by just reading a magazine or book, now I no longer flush in that type of situation, but if I am in the sun even for 10 minutes, I will flush, or if I am in a store in the mall that has the central heat on, I will flush, or if I get anxious, stressed out, angry, upset etc. I will flush. I also flush after exercise too. So these days it is more about the situations I put myself in but I am still ultra sensitive to many situations, but at least I am not waking up flushing badly or flushing by just sitting and watching TV etc. (I was before).

Also, as I stated previously, I no longer get those burning, painful type of flushes that tightens your face and leaves you with that sticky feeling, only very rarely, as in once over the last week has that happened. Now it is almost as if my face feels slightly warm then I look in a mirror and it is pretty flushed, where as before I could feel it everytime it was pretty flush. I don't what to think about that, but it does seem like improvement. Also, what is your recovery time like now? Before when I had that deep painful flushes that you could feel, it would take 45 mins of eating ice and sitting 10inches from a fan to cool it down. Now it seems to dissipate more rapidly, maybe 20 mins and that is just by sitting and relaxing.

I am thinking that these are positive signs. I am 3 months and 1 week post Accutane, so if I can continue to make progress as I have in the past 3 months, then I will hopefully be in pretty good shape at the 6 month point.

Anyways, hope this helped and let me know about your recovery and if you are also ultra sensitive to sun? as in it causing flushes.


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I was on accutane for six months about a year ago and after getting off I was put on minocycline which I took from then on until about six weeks ago. Last November I started to get facial redness/flushing on the sides of my face and nowhere else. The main trigger that causes my redness/flushing is heat and my face seems to be extremely sensitive to any heat and I can even flush in temperatures of 65F. At first I thought it was just due to dry skin, but my skin hasn't been dry for months and I still suffer from this problem. My dermatologist had no idea what was wrong with me and she had me stop taking minocycline to see if that helped. I noticed a marked improvement once I stopped taking the minocycline, but I still have facial redness/flushing six weeks later. The minocycline was definitely making things worse, but the biggest change I have seen since stopping it is in the intensity of flushing I get. When I was on the minocycline my face felt like it was on fire and now, even though I still flush, it isn't to the same intensity as before. When my face starts to feel hot my cheeks feel sticky even though my skin still feels smooth to the touch so I guess it is like an internal problem. I am not sure what that means, but I think that maybe my skin doesn't produce enough oil after accutane or something? I used to have pretty oily skin and now I don't have oily skin at all. The only product I am using right now is klaron, but I don't think that it has any connection with flushing and it has been really effective in keeping me acne free. I was hoping to get some advice if anyone had any?

Honestly man, the accutane is keeping you acne free, not the klaron. I had the same problem as you, and it took about a year for the flushing to go away, and another year for the perm redness to go away. I would recommend using sunscreen, looking into some vbeam, and just chilling

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I dunno what to say here guys...I am not entirely sure if the remeron is gonna be your answer, but hey all you can do is give it a go, so I am eager to hear of your progress. Personally, I had been on Celexa, and it did nothing for anxiety or flushing...I dunno, maybe Remeron is different? But I dont see how it could since they are all basically the same...but anyway, if it helps, please let me know.

PERSONALLY, I dont really flush anymore...I have a few periods where I will flush a bit, but thats ONLY when I am pushing heavy weights in the gym. I don't flush to drinking, randomly...it is usually triggered by an overheating of the body. Once in a while, I will get the warm heated sensation, but that does not happen all that much.

Personally, the flushing just doesn't bother me anymore. I managed to get a good grip on it, but still battle with Seb dermatitis, which is tough...My skin is still a bit pinkish/normal tone, mainly where i have broken blood vessels, and a little red from the SD. But I believe I am getting to the point in my life, where it no longer is an obsession. It is unhealthy. Most of us aim to be perfectionists, whether it be with skin or anything in life. Life is too short to be caught up in bs like this. Yes, its important to be able to get your life on track, and not have these things bother you, but another trigger to this I BELIEVE is STRESS. Its tough to eliminate it when your face is on fire and red all the time, but you need to begin focusing on other positive aspects of life and just realize that you will and can get this in control.

Anyway, I am interested to hear about your progress, so I will be around.

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What up Chase buddy, good to hear your flushing has gone!! For your seb derm you should actually give metrogel a try. They use it to treate rosacea but it works pretty good for seb derm aswell.... I had some IPL sessions and IPL is known to flare up seb derm so i got some on the flares of my nose. The metrogel has got rid of it.

About the remeron... It works totally differently from SSRI's it has drastically reduced my flushing. I have had to cut out the clonidine because i was getting problems with chest pain and my heart....Not good. But anyway yeah it works amazingly for the flushing and it also works as an anti histamine so it seems to relieve alot of general inflammation i have been given from tane.

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hmm interesting...not a fan of SSRI's...never had any good experiences with em...but hey im glad they are working for you...

you have a lil bit of SD now huh...hmm...interesting. I highly doubt that IPL caused SD. Its funny that you mention it since my buddy informed me that the flushing does have to do with oil. Even though I told him that most of these sufferers dont have oily skin, he did mention that it is what is underneath. Oily skin isn't always seen by the naked eye. ALL acne is caused by oil.

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Hey Soul I am not sure that I flush worse due to direct contact with the sun. I think I may actually be worse indoors at the same temparture, but yeah its bad either way. My recovery time has definitely decreased as well. When my flushing was at its worst I wouldn't recover for a long time, but now I can recover in mike 30 minutes if I cool down. A weird thing happened to me on Tuesday. This week was my finals week at college. I dread tests because they bring out the worst flushes in me. But for a test Tuesday I only flushed on the left side of my face. My right side was completely normal. Does anyone know what to make of this since I ALWAYS had flushed on both sides before this? Also, how has the Remeron been working for you?

Thanks Okayz for your response. That gives me a lot of hope that it will go away soon as I am around a year post accutane. If you don't mind I was wondering how bad your flushing was?

Chaseryderz you said that you don't really flush anymore. How long post accutane did your flushing start to improve and then how long after it started to improve did it become relatively nonexistant?

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over a year or so...i still flush here and there, but no where the way i used to...and it doesn't bother me the way it used to tho...still does get to me, but i don't let it get too far...


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hmm interesting...not a fan of SSRI's...never had any good experiences with em...but hey im glad they are working for you...

you have a lil bit of SD now huh...hmm...interesting. I highly doubt that IPL caused SD. Its funny that you mention it since my buddy informed me that the flushing does have to do with oil. Even though I told him that most of these sufferers dont have oily skin, he did mention that it is what is underneath. Oily skin isn't always seen by the naked eye. ALL acne is caused by oil.

CHEERS! :hifive:

IPL is known to flare seb derm temporarily bud, i didn't believe it either, but if you go onto rosacea forums you will find it true.

Remeron isn't an SSRI either, give it a bash.

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Hey everyone. It has been a while since I last posted on here. I just wanted to let you know I have been seeing a lot of improvement. It been 3 months off all medications. The flushing has gotten much better. Lately I have been a bit my sensitive than it normal has been since starting my period. But even when I do flush it is not nearly as intense and lasts only 5-10 mins usually. I have been able to go for a long jog in the morning out in the sun and the warm weather and after wards I'm not flushed at all. Also I sat out side on the back pourch for like three hours just relaxing in the 90 degree summer weather... and only got just a bit pink on my cheeks... which most people do anyways when it's that hot I think. I've always had pretty rosy cheeks anyways. Everyone tells me that.

But anyhow. I have been feeling pretty good about it. I no longer worry about it like I use to. The only down side is now that i'm off the medications. I am beginning to break out again. So I decided I'm gonna try an organic, low fat, low GI diet that should at least help me break out less or not as badly. Also I called the dermatologist and asked her what I could do for my break outs. Now that the flushing has been improving, I don't want to take the chance of going on meds. that will flare it back up again but I want to prevent break outs as much as possible. She said she'd perscribe me Differin gel and that it shouldn't effect the flushing at all and will help keep my skin clear.

So thats that. I'm gonna continue to stay off all medications. As far as keeping my skin clear I'm just gonna use my gentle scrub, apply differin gel, and use my aloe lotion Morning and night. And then just keep a good diet, exercise, and get enough sleep each night.

Also I am considering going to the beach... I know the ocean water always helps clear me up... but I'm a little nervous because I don't want to flush... but I figured I cold always jump in the cold ocean water if I do. I'll probably go in the evening though anyways... so I think I should be fine.

I hope everyone else gets better soon. Stay off medications! It's your best bet. The body is an amazing thing and can heal pretty much anything with time. As long as you are good to your body it will be good to you. Also try not to think about it so much. Just forget about it... we all know the medications that we have been on caused this and that as long as we go off it... it WILL go away. Let your body do the rest on it's own becuase it will. Being axious, upset or angry about it... thats just another trigger... so whats the point??? You know? Don't worry about it.

I know it's scary going off medications with breaking out again.... but if you can find another way to help keep your skin mostly clear... then I would do that instead. I would trade mild break outs over the flushing in a heart beat.

Good luck to everyone. I really hope and want for everyone to get better ASAP. God Bless


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Hey Karen,

Were you on Accutane or just BC?


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Hey Karen,

Were you on Accutane or just BC?

Hey I was never on Accutane. But I was on SOLODYN (minocycline). When I first went on that.. about 3-4 weeks later the flushing started and it never went away. I was only on the SOLODYN for I think 2 months at the most. The flushing was never that bad until I switched over to Spironalactone. Then it got really really bad. Since I stopped taking it though it has recently gotten a lot better... So i'm just praying and hoping that it will continue to get better and better until it's completely gone forever. Sometimes I get upset and I think it's never going to go away completely... But I just keep thinking about how bad it use to be... and compare that to now... and it's def. a huge improvement.

For some reason though the past week hasn't been as good.... I'm not sure why. I just wonder if it's because of being on my period?... Maybe that makes me a bit more sensitive. I donno. I just want it to go away so badly though. 100% gone forever and always. I'll be so happy when that day comes.


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Well we all hope that it will all go away, but in reality, it may never...the objective is to learn to accept it, cause life is what it is. Things are never perfect, and sh*t happens. We all deal with it through life, at one time or another. I believe stress is definitely a key factor that worsens it, if not causes it to happen, and proper skin care is also huge. Anyway best of luck to you, hope it does eventually go away. All you can do is remain optimistic, and ALWAYS put life in perspective. As hard as it may be, life can always be worse. And be grateful that you are living, healthy, and yourself.

AMEN.

LAMARR, you are a crazy fool. I love you, but u are crazy. Just thought id say that, dont know why though. we should chat sometime tho on skype. And get yourself a head set...i got a webcam now, so u can now see my beautiful face. hit me up chap. cheerio.

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Well, I for one can say that stress is a MAJOR contributor if not the main cause of my flushing. Whenever I am stressed or had a stressful day the flushing/redness is worse. If I am stress free and have a good few days without thinking about it much, I really do not flush at all. I am beginning to do daily meditation in hopes of reducing a lot of my stress and worry.

Anyways, 3 weeks on the Remeron. Has helped some, not totally eliminated it, but has helped, especially with sleeping. My doctor said it will take 2 months to see the maximum effects for anxiety so I think that will be the same for flushing.

Lamarr,

you're sure that Dr. Chu said 15mg is the best dose for flushing? I just ask because I have come across 2 forums for rosecea/flushing that users have said 30mg is the best dose for flushing and that some people actually flushed more on the 15mg....I may gadge my anxiety and flushing at 2 months (in 5 weeks) and try the 30mg if my anxiety and flushing has hit a plateau.

I am definitely in a lot better shape then I was 3.5 months ago when stopping Accutane, so I hope I see continual improvement. I am staying out of the afternoon sun for the most part on the advice from my doctor and will usually go outdoors from 7 or 8pm onward, so I get a couple hours outside without the sun being harsh. I feel this has helped with the redness.

Chaseryder,

Glad to hear things have improved for you. Just for your information, Remeron is a SSNI - selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, which differs from the SSRI's. Just wanted to add that info for you as you mentioned that you had tried the SSRI's, so not sure if you realized that Remeron is actually an SSNI.

Karyn,

glad to ehar things are improving for you :)

SeattlJT,

We sound quite similar. I have always had the fluctuating flushing from side to side. My right is usually worse then my left and sometimes I flush both at the same time. Not sure what to make of it to be honest. Remeron had helped. It has been 3 weeks today so the doctor said I should still see improvements up to 2 months. I will keep you posted.


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LAMARR, you are a crazy fool. I love you, but u are crazy. Just thought id say that, dont know why though. we should chat sometime tho on skype. And get yourself a head set...i got a webcam now, so u can now see my beautiful face. hit me up chap. cheerio.

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LOL thanks for that bud!! i like to consider myself pretty normal :P but yeah i'm up for a chat on skype some time soon.

Lamarr,

you're sure that Dr. Chu said 15mg is the best dose for flushing? I just ask because I have come across 2 forums for rosecea/flushing that users have said 30mg is the best dose for flushing and that some people actually flushed more on the 15mg....I may gadge my anxiety and flushing at 2 months (in 5 weeks) and try the 30mg if my anxiety and flushing has hit a plateau.

I am definitely in a lot better shape then I was 3.5 months ago when stopping Accutane, so I hope I see continual improvement. I am staying out of the afternoon sun for the most part on the advice from my doctor and will usually go outdoors from 7 or 8pm onward, so I get a couple hours outside without the sun being harsh. I feel this has helped with the redness.

Chaseryder,

Glad to hear things have improved for you. Just for your information, Remeron is a SSNI - selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, which differs from the SSRI's. Just wanted to add that info for you as you mentioned that you had tried the SSRI's, so not sure if you realized that Remeron is actually an SSNI.

Karyn,

glad to ehar things are improving for you :)

SeattlJT,

We sound quite similar. I have always had the fluctuating flushing from side to side. My right is usually worse then my left and sometimes I flush both at the same time. Not sure what to make of it to be honest. Remeron had helped. It has been 3 weeks today so the doctor said I should still see improvements up to 2 months. I will keep you posted.

The combination of remeron and clonidine is something chu does pretty frequently. He says that from experience most people get on better on the 15mg, but some do benefit from an increased dose. Often the interaction between clonidine and mirtazapine can become more apparent with the higher dose of mirtazapine.

The combo worked amazingly for me but even 15mg i was having problems, i will be trying it again at 10mg with the normal clonidine.

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LAMARR, you are a crazy fool. I love you, but u are crazy. Just thought id say that, dont know why though. we should chat sometime tho on skype. And get yourself a head set...i got a webcam now, so u can now see my beautiful face. hit me up chap. cheerio.

click the pic for a good laugh

LOL thanks for that bud!! i like to consider myself pretty normal :P but yeah i'm up for a chat on skype some time soon.

Lamarr,

you're sure that Dr. Chu said 15mg is the best dose for flushing? I just ask because I have come across 2 forums for rosecea/flushing that users have said 30mg is the best dose for flushing and that some people actually flushed more on the 15mg....I may gadge my anxiety and flushing at 2 months (in 5 weeks) and try the 30mg if my anxiety and flushing has hit a plateau.

I am definitely in a lot better shape then I was 3.5 months ago when stopping Accutane, so I hope I see continual improvement. I am staying out of the afternoon sun for the most part on the advice from my doctor and will usually go outdoors from 7 or 8pm onward, so I get a couple hours outside without the sun being harsh. I feel this has helped with the redness.

Chaseryder,

Glad to hear things have improved for you. Just for your information, Remeron is a SSNI - selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, which differs from the SSRI's. Just wanted to add that info for you as you mentioned that you had tried the SSRI's, so not sure if you realized that Remeron is actually an SSNI.

Karyn,

glad to ehar things are improving for you :)

SeattlJT,

We sound quite similar. I have always had the fluctuating flushing from side to side. My right is usually worse then my left and sometimes I flush both at the same time. Not sure what to make of it to be honest. Remeron had helped. It has been 3 weeks today so the doctor said I should still see improvements up to 2 months. I will keep you posted.

The combination of remeron and clonidine is something chu does pretty frequently. He says that from experience most people get on better on the 15mg, but some do benefit from an increased dose. Often the interaction between clonidine and mirtazapine can become more apparent with the higher dose of mirtazapine.

The combo worked amazingly for me but even 15mg i was having problems, i will be trying it again at 10mg with the normal clonidine.

You mean sides? What kind of sides were you getting? I seem to be ok (knock on wood), aside from having to sleep for 10+ hours daily, but I'm ok with that for now anyways.

I have been cutting Clonidine down. I was taking 1.5 tabs twice daily, but have cut that down to 1 tab in the am and .75 in the evening. I am hoping to get back down to .5mg of Clonidine (half a tab) twice daily and maybe even stop it altogether if the Remeron continues to work. The Clonidine gives me dry mouth and what not.

Keep me posted and drop me a PM if you ever want to talk off the record.

Peace


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LAMARR, you are a crazy fool. I love you, but u are crazy. Just thought id say that, dont know why though. we should chat sometime tho on skype. And get yourself a head set...i got a webcam now, so u can now see my beautiful face. hit me up chap. cheerio.

click the pic for a good laugh

LOL thanks for that bud!! i like to consider myself pretty normal :P but yeah i'm up for a chat on skype some time soon.

Lamarr,

you're sure that Dr. Chu said 15mg is the best dose for flushing? I just ask because I have come across 2 forums for rosecea/flushing that users have said 30mg is the best dose for flushing and that some people actually flushed more on the 15mg....I may gadge my anxiety and flushing at 2 months (in 5 weeks) and try the 30mg if my anxiety and flushing has hit a plateau.

I am definitely in a lot better shape then I was 3.5 months ago when stopping Accutane, so I hope I see continual improvement. I am staying out of the afternoon sun for the most part on the advice from my doctor and will usually go outdoors from 7 or 8pm onward, so I get a couple hours outside without the sun being harsh. I feel this has helped with the redness.

Chaseryder,

Glad to hear things have improved for you. Just for your information, Remeron is a SSNI - selective norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, which differs from the SSRI's. Just wanted to add that info for you as you mentioned that you had tried the SSRI's, so not sure if you realized that Remeron is actually an SSNI.

Karyn,

glad to ehar things are improving for you :)

SeattlJT,

We sound quite similar. I have always had the fluctuating flushing from side to side. My right is usually worse then my left and sometimes I flush both at the same time. Not sure what to make of it to be honest. Remeron had helped. It has been 3 weeks today so the doctor said I should still see improvements up to 2 months. I will keep you posted.

The combination of remeron and clonidine is something chu does pretty frequently. He says that from experience most people get on better on the 15mg, but some do benefit from an increased dose. Often the interaction between clonidine and mirtazapine can become more apparent with the higher dose of mirtazapine.

The combo worked amazingly for me but even 15mg i was having problems, i will be trying it again at 10mg with the normal clonidine.

You mean sides? What kind of sides were you getting? I seem to be ok (knock on wood), aside from having to sleep for 10+ hours daily, but I'm ok with that for now anyways.

I have been cutting Clonidine down. I was taking 1.5 tabs twice daily, but have cut that down to 1 tab in the am and .75 in the evening. I am hoping to get back down to .5mg of Clonidine (half a tab) twice daily and maybe even stop it altogether if the Remeron continues to work. The Clonidine gives me dry mouth and what not.

Keep me posted and drop me a PM if you ever want to talk off the record.

Peace

I was getting chest pain, irregular heartbeat and difficulty breathing. It is definitely the combo of the two that does it for me because i dropped the clonidine slowly over a week and it went away. At the moment im on 25mcg of clonidine a day, but im slowly lowering the remeron to see if i can re add the clonidine again with a lower dose of remeron.

I never thought i was getting a great deal of benefit from the clonidine, but a few days without it proved me wrong!!

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Hey Karyn,

I am glad that you are getting better. With regards to the differin I would monitor that closely just to make sure that it doesn't aggravate the flushing, but yeah I think you should be ok if you are able to sit in 90F without flushing.

Soul,

I don't have fluctuating flushing. It was just that one time. I always flush on both sides. The main difference for me is that the left side definitely feels tighter/sticky and is noticeably hot when I flush while the right is not, even though it is also flushed. Also, while I think stress causes my worst flushes, most of my flushing is due to heat so you might be lucky in that regard. I'll appreciate if you keep me updated on the remeron. Two months ago my general doctor gave me clarinex in an attempt to alleviate the flushing, but after only taking one pill I got heart palpitations which lingered for like a month so I am pretty skeptical about taking other pills right now, but if the remeron REALLY improves your flushing I will be consdering it.

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Chase

I just want to say... That I believe that no one has to just accept things the way they are. I don't care what it is. Anything is possible if you have the will to find out how to make it possible... and the determination to strive for what ever it is you want... and never give up even when you feel hopeless.

I will not... nor will any of these people on here... just live with flushing for the rest of their lives. I don't care what anyone says. Though it may take a while... which more than likely it will... even a year or so... the body is such an amazing thing... and a wonderful healer. No matter what.... Your body is capable of healing... you have to trust your body and trust in what you know in your heart it is capable of doing. I know my body will go back to normal.... I have some bad days here and there... but mostly... since I've stayed positive, stayed off meds, toke good care of my body... I've been doing soooo much better. I know that eventually I will get to a point when this flushing is completely gone... and I'm completely recovered and back to normal. I believe everyone else on this board will recover eventually too.

So... I'm done getting on this forum. I really hate it when someone tries to tell me that I am just going to have to live with this or that.... it's just not going to happen. I am not going to learn to live with something... that I dont deserve... and no one else does either. It's only here to stay for a little while... I believe it's here to somehow... in someway teach us a lesson of some kind... and thats it. But it is not something that will last forever. Because I wont let it.

If you choose to just live with it forever... well thats on you. But that to me is sad... and you and everyone else should have the determination and the positivity to find what ever it is that will help you get better.

I don't believe in seattling for less than I want. No one should do that.

Goodbye and good luck to all of you. I know you all can make it through and find a way to get better.

GOD BLESS

Life is what you make it.... and nothing is impossible


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Karen,

My intentions of my previous post was to provide an accepting approach to dealing with the flushing. Almost being a 2 year veteran to this wonderful affliction, I have learned that constant struggle in trying many different treatments, usually only brings more grief and despair. What I meant to say was that having a more accepting attitude with the situation, and learning to live with it in a controlled manner may be a safe means in "treating" the problem.

From personal help from another acne.org member, as I will mention his name" Dr.Neal, he has immensely saved me. From first having acne problems, which lead to a psychological tornado of body dismorphia, accutane casued me not only flushing but also Seb dermatitis as well. I have many hills to climb, and I continue to through my journey in life. I am not a quitter, nor did I intend to illustrate that notion in my earlier post. All I was trying to say was try to become accepting. The time of frustration that flushing brought me, I believe only added to the situation and more problems for me. But now I can comfortably say that I am comfortable and happy where I am. I am not a quitter. If you knew me, you would know that. And I know I am now getting all personal and defensive here, but I just really wanted to express my disagreement with your previous words. Cause "quitting" is not in my vocab.

Good luck tho Karen, You obviously have the right attitude, and I only wish you the best of luck, along with all these other fine chaps on this board.

PEACE


The man who lives in ignorance is not the fool, but the one whom looks at that ignorance as being blissfull, he is the true fool.


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Hey Chase,

I guess I just miss understood what you meant. I understand now that you only meant to be encouraging. I thought you basically meant to jsut give up and learn to live with it. ANd that broke my heart honestly. Ther is so much I love to do..... and this prevents me from doing those things. I have worked so hard my whole life to become a professional dancer. Of course when I dance I get hot... when I'm hot, I flush. And one of the biggest things I am pasionate about and have been working so hard on since age 3... I feel like it's become a night mare now... I don't enjoy it at all anymore. My life dreams and plans are being taken away from me. Thats how I feel. And I have no one in the whole world that understands. My mother thinks I'm making a big deal about it.

Every single day is so hard for me. I have nothing and no one. I have to go to work so I can live... so I can eat. I can't stay home when I'm all beat red in the face. I have to go out and face all these people every day. It's so freaking hot in Delaware and I don't have a car. I ride the bus everywhere and walking from bus stop to bus stop... my face gets beat red.

For a while there I was doing sooooooooo unbelievable good. Now it's like living in hell again. And when I cry and get upset... I have nothing and no one. I just cry my self to sleep every night. I am in college now too... tyring to pay my way. NO one knows what this is like. Or how hard this is.

Sometimes I truly wonder why I keep trying.

I'm tired of this. I'm tired of crying all the time... in the bathroom at work or school. Every night. All alone. With people looking at me funny or sometimes they even say things.... like are you ok? Are you hot? Or your face is really red... like I don't know. I can feel the it... my face is burning so bad.

I'm so tired of everything... and tired of having to try and fight for something that just doesn't seem to ever go away.


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Hey Karyn,

I am sorry that your flushing has gotten worse again. The summer heat has definitely increased my flushing as well. One thing that I have had some success with is taking one ibuprofen a day. I still feel overly sensitive to heat, but it doesn't result in as much burning/flushing. I don't know if it will help you at all, but its easy to test.

I know that it is hard not to get emotional when you flush, but, for me at least, getting emotional increases my flushing dramatically so I do my best not to get too emotional when I have a bad flush because there is nothing we can do, right then, to stop it.

Before you said that you were doing better. Did you change anything when your flushing started to get worse again? What is your current skin regimen?

I hope things will start to improve for you as I feel your pain. There is nothing more depressing, to me, about flushing than to get a blad flush while I just sit in a class. Not when the teacher is addressing me or if I am giving a presentation, but just when I am sitting there doing nothing. I sometimes feel like I am trapped in my body. My parents also don't really seem to understand how bad the flushing feels and why it is depressing. I don't really blame them as flushing is kind of a crazy problem, but it makes fighting this battle very lonely...

I hope this helps,

James

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Sorry to hear there is so many people out there that have the same stupid redness problem!

To me i just want to have normal skin like my Twin who almost has a perfect complexion....and an active lifestyle that i cant have. The worse thing being a twin.... People COMPARE even i Compare =_=!!! I was always the ugly twin, not because of my facial features, but becoz of my skin complexion.

Sigh*

But some how i got over that............

i Use to have even skin tone 18 months ago, and had battle it with all types of typical for rosasea which had just worsen it over time. May be becoz i dont have rosacea after all. Went to Specialist a few times, prescribed me with minomycin and Advantan Cream, that seems to had totally cured me for a few weeks until i stopped use it. At that time i had already used Advantan cream for 30 weeks which is only meant to be used for 5 weeks. Once i stopped my butterfly facial redness came back uglier than Ever!! i figured antibotic is only the treatment, the only way to permanently cure it is to find the cause.

Thats when i stopped using all the chemical stuff that i put on my face and take internaly. i went to focus on my diet and supplements and any treatment natural.

i cut out most dairy and refine foods

I eat up to 75%alkeline food like veges and fruit a day

i drink a cup of carrot juice a day

Take three 1000mg Omega 3 fish oil and Vitamin C everyday.

Try to eat less red meat and more fish like salmon.

i also jog 30min 4 times a week.

After around 3 weeks, i can see dramatic improvements...my face is no longer so sensitive, less red and most of all no more cystic pimples, skin smoother and look more natural. :angel:

its been a little bit more than a month now, and i know it is only going to get better!!! Progress had slow down, but Hey ... it is still much better than before!!...

For more information go to the nutriention part of this forum or PM me =]

DON'T GIVE UP PPLzzzzzzzzzzz :D :D:D

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Seattle JT

I did add a cleanser.... but that was only in the past week. And I've used it in the past... I really don't think it has anything to do with it. Other than that... I've kept my regimen all the same.

And I def. understand what you mean... about this being a lonely battle. It's so hard. Especially because I am going away to college soon and I'll be dorming with people I don't know. I really dont want my room mates seeing me beat red in the face... or wondering why I sleep with a fan on me. I'm gonna feel so embarrassed... which makes me distant... and then I wont make any friends. I really want to figure out a way to make this go away before I go to college in the fall.

I will be talking with two different doctors today. I am thinking about trying Paxil. I don't know if you ever went to the forum for KP.... but there is a guy on there that went on paxil for flushing... and has had no side effects with 100% good results. And no longer flushes at all.

I don't know if it would work for me... but I do know that non-the-less the flushing still is not as bad as it once was.... I think between thinking about it a lot more... since it hasn't been as great as it was for while... I just got so dissapointed and upset about which only mad it worse... like you said. So... After I talk to my doctors and see what they have to say... I'm gonna try and keep my mind off of the flushing... and stay more positive again. And just keep hoping for the best.

Are you on any medications right now???? Do you think I shouldn't go on any medications? Like paxil?

NTK8989

Because I am a dancer... and I watch my weight and also try to be as healthy as I can. I've always had a good diet. I eat all organics, a ton of fruits and vegigies, lean fish like salmon, tons of water, and only non fat diary and whole grains.

I don't use any chemicals on my face... the cleanser, exfoliater, and lotion are all for sensative skin types and also with no harsh chemicals.

My skin has stayed mostly clear even with being off all medications for 31/2 months now. Which I'm really happy about. I only ever break out during my cycle. Which usually goes a way pretty quickly.


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