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#21 AutonomousOne1980

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Posted 25 August 2011 - 09:43 AM

its overly processed, contains little vitamins or minerals and very likely no antioxidants.

worst foods ever. brown rice is the exact opposite, or other colored rise like black rice is always a better option.
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Posted 27 August 2011 - 01:35 AM

White rice is low in plant toxins like phytates, its only of the only recommended carbohydrates on the perfect health diet.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 04:29 AM

QUOTE (purplerice @ Aug 25 2011, 05:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be honest, my answer for this question is "No"

Rice is the only human-friendly, cheapest, low-sugar, Great source carbohydrate, easy to cook, average energy contained and it also helps you to get enough vitamin such as b1b2 b3 b5 b6 b12 and minerals like zinc, calcium, phosphorus, iron , etc. biggrin.gif


White rice is a crappy source of everything except nearly-fiberless carbs so it's a great way to spike your blood sugar.

Brown rice is relatively healthy. Soaking/cooking reduces the harmful antinutrient content as well, even though brown rice doesn't have nearly as much phytates as other grains.
Quinoa is quite good too and it's been my experience that even people who generally don't tolerate moderate-high carb foods well, can eat quinoa without minimal problems. It's also a complete protein and gluten-free which is especially important to acne-prone people.
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-Supplement whenever possible. Due to how much we've ruined food in the past 60 years, the amount of nutrients found in food nowadays is lower than it was decades ago.
-Exercise, get sunshine, and avoid stressful situations.
-Don't fear food. Go out & eat. It's not good for the skin, but it's good for the soul.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:15 AM

It's ok guys with your different reasons, but i like rice so much smile.gif

You don't have much time to make something easier than rice. Frankly, for those who are "still" afraid to rice, please don't make your life heavier, just enjoy life man wink.gif

If you want to buy something more expensive than rice, there's a lot outside there.
But If there's a little bit different in rice from others kind of rice (brown rice, quinoa,etc) ,
we're still ok guys

Sugar, Soy, Fried food, Dairy, and Gluten definitely makes you break-out.
But if you eat rice in moderation and realistic, you will be happy eusa_angel.gif

Edited by purplerice, 27 August 2011 - 04:13 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:31 AM

I am asian too and I cut all carbs and sugar from my diet. But I still used to eat a lot of white rice, because it is a big part of my meals. I noticed that my acne had diminished, but some cysts were still appearing. Well, two weeks ago I decided to eat less rice. I am eating less than half of what I used to eat. No new acne seems to have appeared, so I guess rice really played a big role in my acne problem.
I would recommend you to try eating less rice too. Like some people already said, I also think that we asians are more prone to have acne because of food.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 10:46 AM

QUOTE (Toshiro123 @ Aug 27 2011, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am asian too and I cut all carbs and sugar from my diet. But I still used to eat a lot of white rice, because it is a big part of my meals. I noticed that my acne had diminished, but some cysts were still appearing. Well, two weeks ago I decided to eat less rice. I am eating less than half of what I used to eat. No new acne seems to have appeared, so I guess rice really played a big role in my acne problem.
I would recommend you to try eating less rice too. Like some people already said, I also think that we asians are more prone to have acne because of food.


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Here's the key, Eat as your body need ( not too much or not too less, but in moderation ) and the body react the best for your health eusa_dance.gif

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:37 AM

There is no definitive answer here. Why? People are different.

White rice gets a negative rap because it "spikes insulin" and various other things. It will apparently make you fat, turn into sugar, and give you giant pimples. . .

I'm Asian (Korean). I've been an acne sufferer for years, and incidentally, my acne began to appear when I refused to eat my mother's Korean dishes. I resorted to eating sandwiches, bread, pasta, etc. because sitting down for a Korean meal just didn't excite me the way a Philly cheesesteak sandwich would.

Just think about my situation for a bit. I went from eating rice, with leaves of lettuce, cooked pieces of meat, fermented cabbage, spinach, bean paste, to a giant loaf of bread toasted with butter covering greasy slices of beef and liquid cheese. Yikes! This wasn't just acne from puberty, it was acne from liquid death and oil. Acne continued well beyond my late teens.

I'm here, primarily, to talk about a few key words :

- Moderation
- Balance
- Diet

This really shouldn't require any explanation at all. Moderation is key - overeating contributes to acne. Balance is required in your diet as well. Eating 4 or 5 cups of cooked white rice, while filling, will cause an adverse reaction in the body. Control portions, and eat a nice salmon fillet with the rice. If you're feeling brave, throw in a few broccoli stalks.

The GI index across the board of white rice, basmati, brown rice, etc. is inconsequential.

One cannot eliminate just white rice, and expect to cure their acne. This path will be met with disappointment, unless you are allergic to white rice.

The steps that people take upon discovering that they can cure their acne through diet are typically as follows :

1. Eliminate something from the diet and see if that sticks.
2. Consume something the individual has never consumed before, in large doses and quantity.

In an ideal scenario, the individual knows what to avoid and what to eat. In most scenarios, people have no idea. They will haphazardly eliminate and begin consuming extra vitamins and substances their entire family tree is foreign to.



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I feel the problem lies in the complexity that is set forth by acne systems, and medicine in general. Yes, white rice isn't the most amazing choice for someone on a diet, or attempting to lose weight. But it's a damn good choice for someone on a budget, who is young and active, and is looking for an alternative to bread.

Take food product(s) available in your typical American store plaza. These plazas typically have things like S afeway,Quiznos, El Pollo Loco, Jack in the Box, McDonalds, Subway, Taco Bell, Jamba Juice, Panda Express, TGI Friday's, Rubio's, and possibly a hole in the wall Mexican Taqueria.

Walk through any of these places and attempt to find yourself a decent meal (quick and easy). The problem is that most people haven't got a clue what is healthy, and what is not. These places have mostly bad options readily available, because people want their fix of terrible food without waiting. Instant gratification.

It's not a secret. Think and observe carefully, what you are about to eat. Look at the ingredients that entail the majority of your dish. Cilantro? Chicken? White Rice? Tortilla chips? Gobs of liquid cheese?

I'm pretty sure some of you are inhaling the nachos, telling yourselves that white rice is the culprit. In my case, I've inhaled nachos and tortilla chips, and eaten my fair share of burgers, to tell any fellow asian person this :

I cured my acne by eating fewer processed foods. While white rice will not be very good for everyone, it became a veritable super-food for me. It was the bread I never had. It was the energy that got me working just a little harder at the gym, or sprinting just a bit faster on my bike. White rice gave me an option that wasn't a tortilla, or a giant loaf of bread.

When you think processed, don't just think about chemical additives. Think about what it took for the food to go from a whole vegetable or meat cut, to what it is on your plate.

Is it fried?
Boiled?
Are there preservatives added?


If you have food allergies, curing your acne may be down to eliminating just 1 simple ingredient. If you really do have acne, well, I'm happy to say eliminating acne might be as simple as eating more whole foods, and less junk.

The path is difficult, but I don't think one should lead themselves astray from it. If you say that eating whole foods isn't the cure, I'm quite certain you likely never gave it a real try. Next time you're out with your buddies, don't forget the junk food you eat, the beers you drank, or the fried whatever you devoured, before convicting white rice of being such a bad option.

In today's wasteland of horrible dietary options, white rice is an amazing sidekick to eating delicious whole foods as the centerpiece.

Edited by jarrit, 22 October 2012 - 05:55 AM.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:45 AM

White rice is quite starchy and therefore full of sugar (which affects blood sugar, insulin, etc...read up on insulin sensitivity and inflammation). If you must eat rice, brown and wild rice is a much much better option.


The GI load of white rice is practically identical to brown rice. So based on that brown rice is just as bad no?

The insulin response to white rice and brown is also identical so insulin sensitivity in this case is non factor.

Brown rice is more nutrient dense and this where people get it mixed up. When it comes to GI that are almost the same.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 08:34 AM

White rice is quite starchy and therefore full of sugar (which affects blood sugar, insulin, etc...read up on insulin sensitivity and inflammation). If you must eat rice, brown and wild rice is a much much better option.

I wish people wouldn't refer to carbohydrate as 'sugar' because they're not the same thing. Sugar is a disaccharide composed of fructose and glucose. It tastes sweet to us and has to some degree different metabolic effects than other forms of carbohydrates. Then there's starch, which is the bulk carbohydrate found in grains (and white rice). Starch is a large polymer of glucose molecules, and it can be broken down and absorbed quickly if the food source doesn't have many other substances (like fiber or protein), possibly causing blood sugar spikes. Most of 'sugar' is found in fruit and sweets which also are mostly carbohydrate, and thus increase blood glucose levels easily.

If white rice is eaten with protein and vegetables, it's probably okay in moderate quantities - much better than a sugary candy bar, for sure. Although brown or wild rice that has fiber and more nutrients would be better, of course. Whether it causes acne is down to each individual's health, activity levels, insulin resistance, sleep etc. For me it's better to even have some white rice than no carbohydrates at all, because the effect of being on a low-carb diet causes my stress levels (adrenal + cortisol) to rise too much, which also can increase blood sugar and lead to insulin resistance.

In general I would favor glucose over fructose, mainly because fructose is only found in fruits and sweets, which tend to be eaten as separate snacks (--> blood sugar spikes) and can easily be overconsumed. And there are theories that fructose might contribute to insulin resistance, although there is controversy on the subject and I haven't looked into it, so I'm not sure if it's true or not. At least fructose induces lipogenesis so it could be contributing to fat gain.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:34 AM

Giving up all grains was an important step in me becoming healthy and fighting my acne. But I believe that I have severe damage to my gut and gut flora, so it's difficult for me to digest anything like that. I think in a normal, healthy person with a healthy gut, rice in moderation is fine.

The question is, is your acne being caused by gut problems? If so, you should give up rice until you heal.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

I am asian and eating white rice is part of everymeal. My opinion on this is that it is better to eat white rice that substitute this to eating bread, pizza, or pasta. 


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 12:18 PM

i read that some people say rice which is like wheat or whole grain catagory i think?? can cause acne. is this true? because i've eaten sticky white rice almost everyday since the day i was born, i've probably eaten rice more then anything else combined. i'm asian so it's a big part of my diet, just thought i'd ask anyway.


It only causes acne if you are intolerant to it or if you are suffering damage from gluten as it contains antinutrients that can do similar harm. In which case, you should avoid all grains and probably all seeds until you recover.

It is nutritionally void and high glycemic, so it's not helpful in your attempt to avoid high glycemic meals or to consume nutrient rich meals. Which is what you want for clear skin ad health.

Edited by alternativista, 08 June 2013 - 12:21 PM.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:30 PM

i read that some people say rice which is like wheat or whole grain catagory i think?? can cause acne. is this true? because i've eaten sticky white rice almost everyday since the day i was born, i've probably eaten rice more then anything else combined. i'm asian so it's a big part of my diet, just thought i'd ask anyway.


It only causes acne if you are intolerant to it or if you are suffering damage from gluten as it contains antinutrients that can do similar harm. In which case, you should avoid all grains and probably all seeds until you recover.

It is nutritionally void and high glycemic, so it's not helpful in your attempt to avoid high glycemic meals or to consume nutrient rich meals. Which is what you want for clear skin ad health.

alterntavista, would you break out from lentils if you did not soak them?



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:10 PM


i read that some people say rice which is like wheat or whole grain catagory i think?? can cause acne. is this true? because i've eaten sticky white rice almost everyday since the day i was born, i've probably eaten rice more then anything else combined. i'm asian so it's a big part of my diet, just thought i'd ask anyway.


It only causes acne if you are intolerant to it or if you are suffering damage from gluten as it contains antinutrients that can do similar harm. In which case, you should avoid all grains and probably all seeds until you recover.
It is nutritionally void and high glycemic, so it's not helpful in your attempt to avoid high glycemic meals or to consume nutrient rich meals. Which is what you want for clear skin ad health.
alterntavista, would you break out from lentils if you did not soak them?

No.
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[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 09:06 PM

 

 


i read that some people say rice which is like wheat or whole grain catagory i think?? can cause acne. is this true? because i've eaten sticky white rice almost everyday since the day i was born, i've probably eaten rice more then anything else combined. i'm asian so it's a big part of my diet, just thought i'd ask anyway.


It only causes acne if you are intolerant to it or if you are suffering damage from gluten as it contains antinutrients that can do similar harm. In which case, you should avoid all grains and probably all seeds until you recover.
It is nutritionally void and high glycemic, so it's not helpful in your attempt to avoid high glycemic meals or to consume nutrient rich meals. Which is what you want for clear skin ad health.
alterntavista, would you break out from lentils if you did not soak them?

No.

Interesting. I am not sure for me if I am sensitive to ALL lectins (grains), or some lectins. I don't know..

 

White rice does contain lectins, so if someone breaks out from it, it is mainly due to the antinutrients. Soaking may help, but I gave up on white rice way too fast


Edited by whoartthou1, 09 June 2013 - 08:54 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2013 - 06:06 AM

WHAT NON SENSE!

WHO SAID ALL 'WHITE COLOURED FOOD' IS BAD?

ARE U INSANE?

 

cauliflower is not a criminal.

nor is tofu if u aint intolerant to soy products.


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