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I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

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Hey there

I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

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Lollypolly --> Don't believe the thread that states:"DIM stops acne in 1 week" or something like that.

Give it some time to work.

That you are having an initial breakout may be a good sign that it is working(or not:P)

Give it a month or so and then come back with your results

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I only took it for 6-7 days and stopped, it wasnt helping and my acne did get a little worse but pretty much i didnt want to mess with my hormones which is why i stopped. It may have helped in the long run, but then again it could of hurt. It could be true that some people may have problems because they need to reinforce phase II.

Phase I is getting the toxins (xenoestrogens) to the liver- DIM. Phase II is the liver processing them-taurine, calcium d-glucarate, glutathione levels etc. So you may want to try one or more of those, but if it keeps getting worse for much longer, definately stop cuz you may be pushing your hormones in the wrong direction. Good Luck!


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DIM also raises free testosterone, so that could be what's contributing to your acne perhaps?


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I wouldn't take a double dose...more is not necessarily better when it comes to DIM since you might be throwing more toxins at your liver than it can handle...start out with 1 or 2 pills per day and see how that goes. Make sure to drink a lot of water to help flush out the toxins for the first couple of weeks. However, if you notice that your skin still looks worse after 3 weeks or so I would get rid of the DIM. good luck!

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Hey there

I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

Someone on here, I forget who, made a good point. With all the excess hormones being pulled out of your blood, or wherever they're coming out of, your liver is needing to do much more work. If your liver can't filter out all the hormones then it goes back into your body. I'm taking taurine with the dim as that's what the guy suggested to do. Also, he mentioned something about some calcium supplement that helps clean the liver out. It makes perfect sense, I'm glad I came upon it or the effects may have diminished do to me overloading my liver.


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Hey there

I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

Someone on here, I forget who, made a good point. With all the excess hormones being pulled out of your blood, or wherever they're coming out of, your liver is needing to do much more work. If your liver can't filter out all the hormones then it goes back into your body. I'm taking taurine with the dim as that's what the guy suggested to do. Also, he mentioned something about some calcium supplement that helps clean the liver out. It makes perfect sense, I'm glad I came upon it or the effects may have diminished do to me overloading my liver.

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Hey there

I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

Someone on here, I forget who, made a good point. With all the excess hormones being pulled out of your blood, or wherever they're coming out of, your liver is needing to do much more work. If your liver can't filter out all the hormones then it goes back into your body. I'm taking taurine with the dim as that's what the guy suggested to do. Also, he mentioned something about some calcium supplement that helps clean the liver out. It makes perfect sense, I'm glad I came upon it or the effects may have diminished do to me overloading my liver.

Was me and its CDG - Calcium D-glucarate. I predicted ppl will breakout via DIM and was even told I was fixing a problem that didnt exsist.


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How so? I believe the opposite. DIM will increase hormones sent to the liver while CDG address the livers ability to basically chelate the excess hormones out of the body. You will not get a bottleneck from phase 1 to phase 2 and less likely to suffer an IB or flu like symptoms, esp if you double, tripple or even take grams of DIM doses.

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Hey there

I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

Someone on here, I forget who, made a good point. With all the excess hormones being pulled out of your blood, or wherever they're coming out of, your liver is needing to do much more work. If your liver can't filter out all the hormones then it goes back into your body. I'm taking taurine with the dim as that's what the guy suggested to do. Also, he mentioned something about some calcium supplement that helps clean the liver out. It makes perfect sense, I'm glad I came upon it or the effects may have diminished do to me overloading my liver.

Was me and its CDG - Calcium D-glucarate. I predicted ppl will breakout via DIM and was even told I was fixing a problem that didnt exsist.

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How so? I believe the opposite. DIM will increase hormones sent to the liver while CDG address the livers ability to basically chelate the excess hormones out of the body. You will not get a bottleneck from phase 1 to phase 2 and less likely to suffer an IB or flu like symptoms, esp if you double, tripple or even take grams of DIM doses.

I totally agree. If you look around the internet this combo is recommended for estrogen dominance.

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I thought I'd see what all the hype is about and started taking DIM a week ago.

Since taking it my skin has got worse with five active spots which are really sore and red - I haven't had this for ages.

Now, this could be because I've not been taking it long enough or because I've been taking a double dose (4 pills a day).

Any thoughts?

Someone on here, I forget who, made a good point. With all the excess hormones being pulled out of your blood, or wherever they're coming out of, your liver is needing to do much more work. If your liver can't filter out all the hormones then it goes back into your body. I'm taking taurine with the dim as that's what the guy suggested to do. Also, he mentioned something about some calcium supplement that helps clean the liver out. It makes perfect sense, I'm glad I came upon it or the effects may have diminished do to me overloading my liver.

Was me and its CDG - Calcium D-glucarate. I predicted ppl will breakout via DIM and was even told I was fixing a problem that didnt exsist.

I don't think many people have had an IB with DIM, I've read about maybe 2 of about 10 or so, but we have a very small sample. I suspect that double dosing could be causing the IB, but that's just my opinion. I really don't know enough about DIM to say whether or not it helps the liver to clear itself of toxins, BUT if you are detoxing slowly enough with the correct dose of DIM and you have a relatively healthy liver, then I don't think you should need another supplement with DIM...I'm already taking (a very small dose of) MSM per day and will continue that wihich is supposed to help with general detox. CDG also seems interesting, but I'm not sure if it makes sense to take CDG and DIM together since both have the property of eliminating xenoestrogens...I know that CDG is supposed to be a good liver aid, but isn't it possible that the CDG DIM combo could cause an overload for the liver as well?


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How so? I believe the opposite. DIM will increase hormones sent to the liver while CDG address the livers ability to basically chelate the excess hormones out of the body. You will not get a bottleneck from phase 1 to phase 2 and less likely to suffer an IB or flu like symptoms, esp if you double, tripple or even take grams of DIM doses.

I totally agree. If you look around the internet this combo is recommended for estrogen dominance.


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Does the glucarate help with liver detox more than taurine jodiat?

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Does the glucarate help with liver detox more than taurine jodiat?

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Whoa good response even if a lot of it is over my head.

I'm going to cut down to the 2 pills a day until the bottle runs out. If my skin gets progressively worse then I know DIM isn't the answer for me. As for liver cleansing I think my liver copes quite well and I don't give it anything other than fruit and veg anyways.

For what it's worth I've been a crabbit bastard the last couple of days too - is that the excess testosterone you think?

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Whoa good response even if a lot of it is over my head.

I'm going to cut down to the 2 pills a day until the bottle runs out. If my skin gets progressively worse then I know DIM isn't the answer for me. As for liver cleansing I think my liver copes quite well and I don't give it anything other than fruit and veg anyways.

For what it's worth I've been a crabbit bastard the last couple of days too - is that the excess testosterone you think?

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Just FYI, when I started DIM it seemed like my oil production decreased at first and then INCREASED again, and then there were a few days where I thought it wasn't helping me at all, and then I began seeing dramatic improvement. So don't give up.

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Just FYI, when I started DIM it seemed like my oil production decreased at first and then INCREASED again, and then there were a few days where I thought it wasn't helping me at all, and then I began seeing dramatic improvement. So don't give up.

I'm in the same place. Did you stick with the dosage that you started with during the tough times?


Topicals:

Aspirin mask

Paula's Choice 8% AHA Gel (glycolic acid)

Diet:

Paleo-inspired diet with a good bit of slacking. Very little dairy. NO GRAINS except for rice and corn. Absolutely no gluten! Lots of green vegetable juice.

Supplements:

Bioidentical progesterone - 75 mg oral micronized, once daily (prescription).

Been slacking on my other supps lately but I should be taking probiotics, Vitamin D, magnesium (transdermal), and iodine.

Status:

Mostly clear with a great, lasting improvement in my overall health and wellbeing. My skin still gets a bit congested when I'm not careful with my diet, but I don't have active acne anymore. I'm now addressing red marks, some minor scarring, and overall skin texture.


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Just FYI, when I started DIM it seemed like my oil production decreased at first and then INCREASED again, and then there were a few days where I thought it wasn't helping me at all, and then I began seeing dramatic improvement. So don't give up.

I'm in the same place. Did you stick with the dosage that you started with during the tough times?

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Just FYI, when I started DIM it seemed like my oil production decreased at first and then INCREASED again, and then there were a few days where I thought it wasn't helping me at all, and then I began seeing dramatic improvement. So don't give up.

I'm in the same place. Did you stick with the dosage that you started with during the tough times?

Yes I did. I adopted a "what the hell, I guess I'll just keep taking it" attitude and kind of forgot about it for a few days until I noticed that I was definitely seeing improvement.


Topicals:

Aspirin mask

Paula's Choice 8% AHA Gel (glycolic acid)

Diet:

Paleo-inspired diet with a good bit of slacking. Very little dairy. NO GRAINS except for rice and corn. Absolutely no gluten! Lots of green vegetable juice.

Supplements:

Bioidentical progesterone - 75 mg oral micronized, once daily (prescription).

Been slacking on my other supps lately but I should be taking probiotics, Vitamin D, magnesium (transdermal), and iodine.

Status:

Mostly clear with a great, lasting improvement in my overall health and wellbeing. My skin still gets a bit congested when I'm not careful with my diet, but I don't have active acne anymore. I'm now addressing red marks, some minor scarring, and overall skin texture.


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Lolly you should really consider the phase 2 and make sure your diet has it covered.

Plus you need amino acids because these things transport by way of protein.

Also you have to be getting plenty of fat because these things eliminate by way of fat pathway (bile etc)

As vegan you may be at a slight disadvantage on these few things.

Skim thru some of the DIM research thread to understand the phase 2 part of it and see what your options are. Definitely lower the dose and spread them out by about 5-6 hours, as DIM works for about 5 hours per dose. Most people have had success by taking with food. Also I think some things may interfere (called phase 1 inhibitors)...haven't compile a list or even coonfirmed the things that Ithink might, but I think grapefruit might.

read this, especially about the liver backlog

http://www.canarys-eye-view.org/metabolic_...tion/detox.html

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Just FYI, when I started DIM it seemed like my oil production decreased at first and then INCREASED again, and then there were a few days where I thought it wasn't helping me at all, and then I began seeing dramatic improvement. So don't give up.

I'm in the same place. Did you stick with the dosage that you started with during the tough times?

Yes I did. I adopted a "what the hell, I guess I'll just keep taking it" attitude and kind of forgot about it for a few days until I noticed that I was definitely seeing improvement.

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