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#1 CoolGuy68

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:09 PM

After many years of red, painful, inflamed, swollen, and infected ingrown hairs/shaving bumps, I've come across something very interesting, let me know what you think. SO FAR, SO GOOD!!! Click the link below.

http://www.koshershaver.org/howto.htm



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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:49 PM

From what I understand they don't recommend electric shavers to men with curly berds. My brother-in-law says it's because it pulls the hair then cuts and the hair goes back under the skin and causes ingrown hairs. I don't know if that's true though tongue.gif

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE(Alona @ Dec 20 2007, 12:49 PM) View Post
From what I understand they don't recommend electric shavers to men with curly berds. My brother-in-law says it's because it pulls the hair then cuts and the hair goes back under the skin and causes ingrown hairs. I don't know if that's true though tongue.gif


Yes, you are correct! However, if you re-read my post and open the link, you'll see that you can pull out the lifts on the Norelco blades, and it makes for gentler shave. Tell your brother-in-law about it!


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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:59 PM

I do apologize, my work computer doesn't seem to like that website link and it won't open, again I apologize for not being able to see, but I will tell him about it!!! Thanks!

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:38 PM

Important: This process is pretty simple, but MUST be done to ALL 3 heads! Depending on which model Norelco shaver you own, there are usually 15 blades per head, and EACH blade has its own 'lift' which needs to be removed: (15 blades x 3 heads = 45 lifts in total which need to be removed to render your shaver Kosher) - some of the newer Norelco models have less blades / lifts per head.



The Norelco SmartTouch-XL and Speed-XL models have an inner ring of blades which do not have lifts, therefore only the outer ring needs the lifts removed.



PLEASE NOTE: Unfortunately the new NORELCO ARCITEC SHAVER & Moisturizing shaving system models 8060x, 8040x, 8020x CAN NOT be dismantled to remove the lifts, therefore it can NOT be made Kosher - thus CAN NOT BE USED.



Remember: If you have any questions, please email us!

Tools required: You can use any one of the following common household tools listed below in order of your preference / availability.

·Cuticle Scissor ·Mini glasses pliers ·Nose pliers ·Tweezers ·Nail clipper ·Nail scissor

Remove the 3 blades from your shaver

Dismantle your shaver head (as if you were cleaning the individual heads) Do one head at a time, Norelco recommends you replace each blade with it's original comb.

Identify where's the lift on the head

Next to EACH blade there's a tiny piece of tin, that’s the "lift" that needs to be removed. There's one lift for every blade! The red arrows show the 'lifts', and the yellow outlines one of the lifts.

Grasp the lift, pull to remove

With your tool, and your fingers positioned on the head, grab onto the 'lift' at the lowest possible point (where it connects to the head), and pry it - (pull it towards you). It should come off, and should NOT leave any part of it behind. If it does, grasp it at the lowest point, and re-pry, until it's gone. Repeat until all the lifts on the head are removed

Identify the 'lift' that you are removing

You will continue to remove the lifts one at a time until you removed ALL the lifts on the entire head. Repeat until ALL 3 heads are completely rid of the 'lifts'

Did you do it correctly?

When it's done correctly, if you look closely under the blades you will see a 'zigzag' of silver metal. Spin the head around& inspect the entire head for the 'zigzag' formation. Remember, any questions, please fell free to email us at help@koshershaver.org

You're Done! (After shot of what your KOSHER head now looks like)

Congratulations! YOU have just made your Norelco Lift & Cut Kosher! Repeat until ALL 3 heads are completely rid of the 'lifts'. Now that you’re a pro, be Mezakeh your friend by removing HIS ‘lifts’!



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Posted 20 December 2007 - 08:05 PM

Interesting, so does this help with ingrown hairs and is it more comfortable cuz the hairs arent being tugged on? how close does it shave? thanx for any response

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(ryudoadema @ Dec 20 2007, 08:05 PM) View Post
Interesting, so does this help with ingrown hairs and is it more comfortable cuz the hairs arent being tugged on? how close does it shave? thanx for any response

I've been doing this for a week now, and the shave is certainly much more comfortable. I think the main idea of pulling out the lifts is so that the blades are NOT tugging at the hair, therefore avoiding the dreaded ingrown hairs. I went back to the Norelco three months ago, but was still getting bumps on my neck and jawline, but could not figure out why! I happened to come across this idea on a shaving forum. I highly recommend trying this out. To answer your other question, I have not noticed any less of a close shave. If you've electric shaved previously, you know that your shave is only going to be "so" close. Any other questions, I'd be glad to help you out!


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Posted 21 December 2007 - 05:37 PM

Hi Bruce,
Thank you for this topic. Shaving can be so difficult for you guys.
I wanted to let you know I added a link to this thread in the Cosmetics forum where there is a pinned shaving thread.
http://www.acne.org/...p;#entry2137387

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 05:55 PM

cool, the only other q i have is if it works. so whenever you think youve had enuf time to test it out let us know! thanx

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 02:18 PM

I figure I'd give an update on my latest status, it's been 10 days since I switched my shaver to Kosher blades. Almost all of the ingrown hairs/shaving bumps have cleared up with no new ones!!! I've supplemented this with using Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Soap. The results have been
impressive. Here's a guide for the guys out there:

#1 Change your blades to Kosher, but be sure to use new combs/cutters or a new shaver, so please shell out the $30 - $40 to do it. I think that the Norelco Reflex 6 models with the HQ55 Plus heads work the best. I found Remington's to be too sharp, plus they have double cutters in them, not advisable to use, IMHO.

#2 It does not matter if you shave before or after showering, this may be a personal preference thing. I personally shave first.

#3 Wash with Dr. Bronner's Tea Tree Oil Soap.

#4 Here's an important one, be sure to pop the head off the shaver after shaving, and rinse it off with warm/hot water in the sink. This will ensure that it's clean of all hair, dead skin, possibly oil from your skin. Then it will be fully clean & dry for the next day's shave.

This is the most gentle, simple and effective a regimen I can think of at this point, for guys with the most sensitive of skin for shaving. I've explored every option, and technique I could come up with for wet shaving, and finally came to the conclusion I could not do it, due to the fact that the blade actually touches the skin. Bear in mind in here, we're not looking for closeness (you're NOT going to get that), but you will get a comfortable shave without all of the unnecessary drama!!! The icing on the cake is that I've used no oral or topical medication upon using this regimen!

Regards, Bruce

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:37 PM

sorry 4 all the q's, but do u shave everyday or every 2 or 3?

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE(ryudoadema @ Dec 27 2007, 10:37 PM) View Post
sorry 4 all the q's, but do u shave everyday or every 2 or 3?

Hey no problem, I started out every other day until everything started to clear up and look better. I have shaved the last three days without any drama. I cannot believe this is actually working...it's been a long and painful journey to get here! I'm glad I can help you out, and hope it works well for you as well! Now if I can only do something about my hideous, pitted, scarred mug, maybe in '08!!!


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Posted 12 January 2008 - 01:02 PM

Hey, Bruce, if I remember correctly, you used to use another conventional razir that helped with bumps. Could you tel me which one you used?

I've been having shaving issues (again), but I'm not sure I fancy the electric trimmer. Thanks for any help.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 08:32 PM

Being in the military I have to shave everyday. My routine is to shave at
night using a bump fighter razor with neutrogena skin clearing shave gel.
Afterward, I put on the neutrogena advanced solutions acne mark fading peel.
Leave on for 15 minutes or so then wash off. In the morning I touch up with
my baun 370 travel razor. I haven't had any major problems since starting
this routine a year ago.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 12:08 AM

Hey Ambrosius, the poster right after you answered your question...The Bump Fighter. I used this for a few years, but had to give it up. I was not having any luck with the traditional wet shave, after many tries (and variations). I've been finally having luck with my latest regimen.

#1 Take shower using Dr. Bronner's Lavender Liquid Castile Soap

#2 Dry face & neck with towel, then wait 5-10 minutes to complete dry

#3 Shave with Norelco 7110X with the lifts pulled out of it (Kosher)

#4 Done, that's it!

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Posted 21 January 2008 - 03:56 AM

Thanks for the info, Bruce. I'm not sure I can easily get this product in the UK, but I'll give it a go. smile.gif


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Posted 29 January 2008 - 06:27 PM

So do you guys use any type of face lube or aftershave like Lectric Shave?





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