Posted 22 June 2011 - 03:04 PM
Posted 12 October 2011 - 04:16 PM
My history: I'm 28 now so i've been dealing with acne for about 15 years. I've had it just about everywhere on the body you can have it (scalp, arms, back, face, neck, etc) i've tried just about everything out there: benzoyl peroxide, differin, antibiotics, 3 courses of accutane (yes you read right, 3), B5, zinc, niacin, apple cider vinegar, a variety of topicals, and probably dozens of other things.
A quick note on the accutane: I know it's a contentious subject. I think I should add a little about my experience with it to you give you full context. My first course was during my freshman year of college. I have to say I am thankful for it. It cleared me up while I was on the drug and for a few months afterwards. I had severe nodular acne on my back that cleared up completely and (for the most part) never returned. My side effects included occasional lower back pain and of course dryness but otherwise were mild. I took the subsequent courses a few years later when the oil production returned in full force. In the 2nd and 3rd round the accutane was not working as well. I have very thick hair, but on my 3rd round I noticed it was suddenly starting to thin...and so I stopped immediately. The accutane not working was in part what led me down the path to a more natural/holistic solution.
Where I'm at now: I agree with Dan when he says he doesn't think there is a "silver bullet" for acne. The things I do are the result of a long and tedious process of trial and error. I cant say that any one thing is or isn't the magic ingredient. I also can't say that they will work for you the same way they have worked for me. As far as acne goes, I think "managing" it is really a more accurate thing to say than "curing" it. I'm fairly certain I could start doing things differently and revert back to where I was a few years ago. The way I am defining success is that other people can't tell that I have an acne problem. I still get occasional breakouts, but nothing more severe than most of my friends. I have reached a point where it is not controlling my life and if you saw me you'd never know.
I did the paleo diet for 6 weeks. It was more of a test than a sustainable solution but I'm glad I did it. As an aside, my weight dropped from 175 to 155 eating as much food as I wanted in the first 3 weeks (I'm 5'10") and ive been maintaining it at 160lbs on a sustainable semi-paleo diet since then. the cravings suck at first. I also felt light headed as my blood pressure dropped. Contrary to what ive read from others I did not feel an amazing burst of energy...In fact at first I felt tired and crappy until I upped my fruit and vegetable intake (probably kicking me out of ketosis). I think its important to get enough fruit and veggie carbs on the paleo diet.
meat, some grass fed but mostly grain fed
-pretty much anything that wasn't overly processed
Fruits and veggies
-frozen blue berries, raspberries, black berries
-you get the idea
-first cold pressed extra virgin olive oil
-expeller pressed coconut oil (supposedly antifungal and stuff, high lauric acid...another topic really)
I did not eat:
-grains/starches (rice, wheat, potatoes)
-legumes, peas, beans, etc.
So this is a great diet if you live in a cabin in the woods away from western civilization. If you're like me you have friends or family who like to do crazy things like "eat at restaurants". So after my six weeks I just try to eat as much paleo stuff as I can, but I usually cheat on the weekends. As far as the acne goes I think it has helped a lot, BUT I believe it is a long and slow process...I'm talking months here. The main acne related lessons I have learned from the paleo experience:
-Reduce or eliminate simple carbs and processed sugar, they cause me to break out. Check out its about obesity, not acne, but still very applicable.
-Up the fiber intake, I put psyllium husk in my fruit smoothies (make sure you get the kind without added sugar)
-I avoid wheat and gluten. I know there's this whole big gluten bandwagon that everyone is jumping on these days but I do believe it causes me to breakout.
-Beer is a big trigger for me. I don't know if its the gluten or what, but I try to stick to drinks made with liquor if I can.
-consume as many vegetables as you want. Raw doesn't hurt...I've gotten into juicing recently. A quality juicer will run you $50 and up. The juice I had today was broccoli, cucumber, celery, fresh mint, young coconut water, and apple for a touch of sweetness.
-Fruits shouldn't be juiced, eat them whole to get the fiber buffer.
**At this point I need to caveat all this by emphasizing that I don't actually know any of this for a fact. I think people on this message board are sometimes too quick to say ______ caused my _______ or ______ cured my _________. Unfortunately I cannot do a double blind placebo controlled study on myself. On any given day I am eating/drinking/saying/wearing/feeling/doing a lot of different things. So, I should say I think beer is a big trigger for me. It could actually be the case that a butterfly sneezing in Indonesia is the real culprit. **
I don't know how close the relationship between sleep and acne actually is, but I think its safe to say this: If you don't get enough sleep you will have more stress. If you have more stress you will have more acne. There may be additional mechanisms at work, I don't know. A convenient side effect of getting quality sleep in darkness may be reducing your risk of cancer since light exposure supresses your melatonin response. I try to limit my light exposure close to bed time. I have a dimmer on my computer (which isn't great I know, but better than nothing). I also take about 1/2 a mg of melatonin if I feel I need it (I cut the pill..I think 3mg is counterproductivel, but experiment for yourself).
The only thing I take is zinc a couple times per week. I would do it every day but I forget. I don't take fish oil although it probably wouldn't hurt. BTW I did try taking a ton fish oil at one point for a period of time...didn't work for me.
Yes, I still use them. I got really frusterated with topicals at one point and wanted off them. At this point they are still part of my mix and I do think they help a lot..perhaps if I was able to do 100% paleo I wouldnt need them but that's also speculation.
I kind of do the "regimen", not religiously though. I mostly use Alpha Hydroxy Acid, more than Benzoyl peroxide. Where I live Walgreens sells it in these little tubs (black top, white base, red label for about $8). For me its great...I think pretty a pretty undervalued topical when it comes to acne. I usually put it on my face after I shower, and on the back of my neck where I sometimes breakout.
I also shower with Head and Shoulders and Nizoral for my scalp.
Perhaps this all sounds like a lot but its actually pretty seemless for me at this point. I maybe spend 5 minutes per day with the topicals. As far as the food goes, it certainly doesnt take any more time since I have to eat anyway and I think I am getting general health benefits from eating more fresh fruit and vegetable.
Anyway I hope this was at least a little but helpful for someone out there.
Posted 16 October 2011 - 10:45 PM
I have been away for a long time as well. I owe my clear skin to this forum a 100% The information and ideas here are priceless. Bless you all! Well, where to begin?
I had smooth and clear skin until I turned 16. That is when I started getting these massive cysts on my left cheek. For some reason, the right cheek was OK. At first, I thought breaking out was just normal and did not pay attention to the acne. But soon, I started noticing that these cysts would not go away. They stayed for weeks at a time. My chin also started breaking out as well. The pimples were horrendous! I mean it was so bad that I would get pimples on top of my pimples. Pretty gross right? anyway, this freaked me out and I went to the doctor. The doctor gave me some creams to put on. They smelled horrible. They did absolutely nothing. My acne basically left my self confidence shattered and my social life took a nose dive. This kept on for quite a few months until I went to the dermatologist. I had had enough! The dermatologist gave me doxycline pills and a cream called Ritovan (Rivolan?) and that worked for a while. I took the medicine for 6 months and thought I was cured. (I was naive back then )
I remember it was the second year of college. I got this feeling inflammation in my skin which only meant one thing! The acne was coming back. Thankfully, I was able to get to the dermatologist again and he prescribed more stronger medication. This cycle went on for quite a few years. The acne would get resistant, the medication would be changed. BUT after a while, this stopped working. The dermatologist told me that if I did not 'outgrow' the acne soon we would have exhausted all the medication options. Well I didnt outgrow my acne and the medicine stopped working. The dermatologist pretty much told me I had to live with my acne and there wasnt much I could do besides taking Accutane. Well I went home that night and researched Accutane and it scared the bejesus out of me guys! I mean, I was like no way am I screwing up my body with this thing!
This was a dark point in my life. I was 23 years old and depressed. I would go to work and hurry back home so people couldn't see my acne ridden face. My acne had continued to devastate my face to the point where I dreaded going to work. Sometimes I would call in sick just so people couldn't see me. It was that bad. I became lonely and started basically hating myself and my skin. I remember crying and asking God, why me? Silence was the answer.
After a couple of months in this state, I said what the hell? I am 23 and hate my life. I need to do something about this. I joined the gym. Started swimming and working out. That got me out of the depressive state. I also noticed that I had more energy and positivisy. Then one day, I thought to myself. Why not research on the internet to find out what other people going through acne are coping with it? So I sat down and typed 'Acne help' in Google and somehow found this site. What a relief! People like me! But these people were actually trying to find a cure! But that's impossible I said to myself. My dermatologist told me I had to live with this.
I started reading up on acne as much as I can. There were weekends where I would just sit on the computer researching on acne. Publications, journals, books and forums. You name it and I was eating that stuff up. One common theme came up again and again in my readings. The relation of diet with your acne. I thought why not give it a shot. So I started keeping a log of all the stuff I ate. It was a real pain in the behind! I am not an organized person to begin with but I had to force myself. I was on a mission to cure myself man! So, I religiously kept a journal of everything I ate, when I ate it. I soon realized that for me dairy and HFCS were the triggers. Once I got rid of this my acne reduced dramatically in a matter of days. But, I wasn't acne free yet!
I still had a little acne around my cheeks that even after cutting out these two main triggers remained. Elated by my previous success, I started researching again. I learned about the acid mantle and your skin's natural oil cycle. And let me tell you guys, it was a shock. I mean I felt I had been lied to by the media my entire (I guess i was still naive then! ) But seriously, our skin doesn't need all those expensive face washes and conditioners. Its all a lie, ladies and gentlemen. This was the missing jigsaw piece so to speak. I stopped using all the skin conditioners, face washes. Hell, I stopped washing my face. Talk about going all out! But it worked!!! My skin got scaly and then it rejuvenated into just AWESOME skin just like a baby's butt
I hope I didn't bore you too much with my long winded story but just wanted to document my experience for everyone out there. Keep trying and keep experimenting. You don't have to live with acne. You just have to find out what the problem is. I am currently in the processing of documenting all of this into a book as a way to show my gratitude to this great forum and to all the people around here. Hang in there and never give up! God bless!!!
Posted 03 December 2011 - 03:58 PM
Title: Wai Diet Thread
Summary: Male, 20 years old, whole-face 2nd degree burn suffer, 100% clear for the last 8 and a half months, after 9 months of Wai Diet. Used to have very inflamed acne and irritated skin.
Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:46 PM
i dealt with acne for 10+ years. i went to dermatologists and did the topicals/drugs/treatments. the benzoyl peroxide acne.org offers does a great job when it comes to preventing acne on the face. however, it never could prevent body acne and it never helped with acne SCARS. after going through all sorts of diets such as vegan, vegetarian, paleo, raw paleo, etc, i figured out the ideal diet to heal skin conditions i've been plagued with for FAR TOO LONG. and i'm quite SICK of hearing people say it's a hormonal thing when it's DIET that causes those hormones to get out of control. this is the diet that works in literally THREE DAYS. and i'm not selling A THING nor do i have a WEBSITE. warning, this diet is something you have to stick with and if you eat anything else, then don't count on it to completely get rid of your conditions. this diet is no cakewalk and even i have trouble with it because junk food has an ADDICTIVE element to it. here is the diet:
by VOLUME (as in, the % you see on your plate):
80% cooked organic vegetables such as kale, collard greens, broccoli, and some carrots
WHY? because raw vegetables are not easily absorbed due to cellulose trapping the nutrients and just passing through your body not being able to be utilized. you should STEAM the vegetables until they are soft and not crunchy/hard. also, try to eat more of the greens because they are the least starchy. if you need the energy and carbs, go for carrots. remember to steam them.
20% cooked lean meat such as turkey and chicken.
WHY? animal protein is complete protein. we evolved on meat. but remember, you can only eat it in this amount. only 20% of your plate should be meat. so don't say you've tried this diet if you're eating 80% meat with only some vegetables. you MUST do it in these proportions.
now that the diet is explained, i will say some things. everyone is DIFFERENT. some people may be able to eat eggs for their 20% cooked meat or even fish (preferably sardines, has the least mercury of all the fish). also, you can experiment with eating non-allergenic grains such as BROWN RICE or QUINOA however you must eat the 80% cooked vegetables still. also, some people say they can have RAW milk in the 20% protein portion, so experiment with that if you want. but remember, this is the diet that got me GUARANTEED results EVERY SINGLE TIME. i've done it COUNTLESS times after eating junk foods for months and it continues to work. please PLEASE pleaseeeeee do not knock this diet until you try it exactly as i have said. ALL OF THE DETAILS are important. please pay CLOSE attention to the words i used above. i'm only typing this on here because i'm tired of seeing people think that accutane and drugs and hormones as the answers as if dermatologists are GODS and know what they're talking about when they only know LIMITED information that they are taught in school. anyway, i've dealt with the insufferable and unexplainable pain that these skin conditions entail and i just want to help. so please don't act like these conditions are not preventable because they are 99% of the time. yes, everyone is different and it may not work for everyone but i can pretty much guarantee you that you've NEVER tried this PARTICULAR diet.
also IMPORTANT information i forgot to mention:
FRUITS are not vegetables and i don't advocate eating them in place of the 80% cooked vegetables portion of the diet. fruit is SUGARY and it does NOT matter if it's fructose or sucrose. it's SUGAR. if you need a sugar fix, get some stevia and mix it in with water and that should satisfy your sugar fix.
ALSO: do not expect COMPLETE results if you eat other junk food and think that eating vegetables will cancel out the JUNK FOOD because with me, IT DID NOT. you must be STRICT with your diet. again, you can EXPERIMENT with yourself as you are UNIQUE, but i suggest you first do the diet completely and then see what you can add in or change for YOURSELF. but give the diet 3 days to a week. that's all it takes to see results for me. who knows, it may take slightly longer for some people. also, your scars will heal FASTER if you adhere to the diet STRICTLY.
ALSO: i do NOT recommend vegetables such as tomatoes or any of the NIGHTSHADE vegetables. i specifically said WHICH vegetables helped me. also, olive oil and avocado were NOT included in my diet but you can experiment if you want but i CANNOT guarantee the results i got with the PARTICULAR diet i just outlined. i don't need exercise and i think exercise is truly only required when we're OVER-eating or eating fruits and carb-laden foods. when it comes to liquids, try to just drink WATER. even SODA slowed my progress down.
Posted 11 December 2011 - 04:32 PM
When I first started working (age 22) I was eating whatever I wanted to, and then sweating all day (part of the job). My skin cleared up, and that is when I realized a regime that has worked for me ever since (not last year though, I got a very very bad sun burn and it reversed the effects of my regime, I will explain later). I took short cold showers (1-2 minutes tops), washing my hair, genitals, and armpits and feet that was all, nothing on my face, I would let the water run down my back and not my face. I then would get out of the shower and splash cold water on my face for about 1 minute and that was all. I cleared up so good I was surprised that I had been missing the point on acne all along, at least for me.
About the sunburn incident. I had a very bad 2nd degree sunburn that I got from sleeping on the beach, don't ask me why. At this time I had decided to also switch to long hot showers and using body soap. All a very very very VERY bad combination for my skin. Not only did my face break out, so did my back. I stopped taking hot showers, back to cold short showers, and I also stopped using soap. My back cleared up within 2 months but my face still had a lot of scarring and hyperpigmentation. Because the sunburn had destroyed my skin tissue I had old dead flaky skin that was different color tones, some even looking yellow, it was bad. I thought my old method would work, however it did not. The only thing that helped me cure the burn was time, NOTHING, and hot water. Time to heal, and then nothing to the skin to irritate it. Also, I switched back to hot water showers, this in turn created dead skin and shedding. At this point, this was great for the burned damaged skin on my face, as it was a great way to exfoliate the skin. I just let the water splash on my face that was all. Once the burned tissue started looking better (over 4 weeks of hot showers) I had a lot of dead flaky skin. So, I used Q-tips to gently remove the dead skin. From this point onward I have been back on the short cold showers and clear ever since.
I have a food allergen problem with gluten, so my diet has changed, and I do contribute some of the cystic acne to the gluten allergen. My sinuses are much much clearer from this point onward. But here is my basic regime that has kept me clear to this day:
1. Short cold showers (1-2 minutes, washing genitals, hair, armpits, and feet NOTHING else). Let the water run down the back of my hair and back not my face, never let water touch my face. ***side note, I only use shampoo to wash nothing else, no bar soap no body wash, just shampoo and recently I have decided to stop using (maybe like once every 4 days) on my hair. I am going to see
2. Out of shower, splash cold water on my face for roughly 1 minute.
3. Only shower once everyday or every other, just splash cold water on face and leave for work, and no it isn't nasty and no I don't smell bad; trust me I have asked people to smell me, lol.
4. Gluten, although I have the allergen I can't say that it was the main problem here, I cleared up during the summer eating gluten 2-3 times a day, however, because it did contribute to my allergies can't say it never cause my acne, I did clear up 100% while eating it.
5. Orgasm/Ejaculation. More on this below.
I know many of you on this forum have been going back and forth with this idea of masturbation causing acne or not, and many people, even studies say that it does not. I my case it has and I will explain things here. When I have sex or masturbate (with or without orgasm), my body gets to a very relaxed state, just like everyone else. For me, however, this is not good for my sinuses or muscles. When that relaxed my sinus muscles can become tense or irregular, meaning they sit in a different position from normal. When this happens any pressure from my sinuses can shift and lead to acne, cystic most definitely. Most of you may laugh at this idea however it is true. If I were to have sex or masturbate more than once a week I would have cystic acne. I don't break out terribly, it is just one or two cystic zits, however they are the ones that hurt from all that sinus pressure. If my body maintains a normal state, not relaxed and not tense, just regular I will never get sinus cystic acne. It has been this way the first time I cleared up and right now.
It is very hard getting over sex and masturbation trust me I know. But if you focus your mind and time on other things it gets easier and easier to live without it. I went over 2 months without orgasm. The frequency I can orgasm and remain acne free is once per week or once every other week, in that time frame, although I choose to go close to 2 weeks between orgasms.
Now for those of you that want to give this a try there are some things to consider. My skin is naturally oily, it's just how it likes to be, and in being naturally oily you need to get used to that, the oil will balance out in about 2 weeks time, as the skin adjusts from dry (washed) skin to oily (unwashed) skin. Once balanced the skin does not feel or look oily at all. For those of you with naturally dry skin you might not notice this difference at all.
Posted 23 December 2011 - 03:03 PM
Well, i decided to eliminate dairy. I was consuming a gallon of milk a week plus cheese on nearly everything. After i quit dairy, my gas, bloating, and acne decreased by about 60%. So i figured there must be something else. That's when i read more about gluten. I then eliminated gluten and in about 2-3 months, my face cleared up about 98%
I still have chocolate cake (containing both gluten and dairy) at work parties about once a month. I still have a little cheese on my omelet if i go out to breakfast... So i eliminated these 2 items by about 95% but i'm at a point where im happy with my face, and i need to indulge and cheat every once in a rare while. Cheating once in a while DOES NOT make me break out. Although my stomach will make terrible noises and ill have increased gas after some cake... I believe it was the quantity of gluten and dairy that i was consuming that was resulting in my acne.
One thing i consume a lot of is oats. And although oats don't naturally contain gluten, they pick up small amounts since they are processed on the same equipment as bread/wheat. So i buy gluten free oats. Bob's red mill brand.
I can't express enough thanks to all of you for giving me the knowledge and resource to successfully eliminate my acne. Thank you, and happy holidays.
I should add that I wash my face with just water, morning and night. That's it. No topicals, no moisturizers, no cleanser. Just water, twice a day.
TAKEN ON 4/15/11
8 month progress TAKEN ON 12/23/11
Edited by immax01, 28 March 2012 - 08:02 AM.
Posted 22 January 2012 - 01:12 PM
4 products that i buy in a shop called De Tuinen here in Holland.
1 Stinging nettles capsules (we call it brandnetel)
2 Brewers yeast tablets extra strong (we call it biergist)
3 Burdock root capsules (we call it Grote Klis)
4 Maria's thistle (we call it mariadistel)
I get acne from food so i don't eat a lot of oily manmade stuff but mostly naturemade stuff.
I believe in herbs!
O, i liked to add.. just like the former poster, i only wash my face with water.
Sometimes i use a facial mask or steam. I hope i can help someone with my regimen. I'm 41 years old and my acne started when i was 12 so i wished i knew about these herbs earlier because it ruined my selfesteem, at the time.
Posted 02 March 2012 - 11:30 AM
I'm going to repost it in here because I think it will help some people enormously and I want to share the awesomeness of finally having good skin!!
I keep coming on this site even though I no longer struggle with acne just so that I can help people, and you can do this for FREE.
I'm 24 and I'm rid of acne! I barely get pimples now (maybe 1 per month, or not even!) and wish I had tried the method I have now. I have been acne free since January!!
Believe it or not, I got this advice from a friend and it has worked wonders:
- quit using products and soap on your face
- only rinse your face with water, and only do so at night, after you've worked up a sweat, and in the morning (doesn't matter hot or cold water)
- don't touch your face!!!
If you're like me (24 and had tried a crapload of products that never seem to work), try this out, what have you got to lose. I wish I had done it sooner, and I would have had less scarring on my poor cheeks and jaw
Oh well, here's hoping you guys don't spend a whole lot of money on products that only further aggravate your skin when you can get acne free for free!!
PS: I have been doing this method since Last year in January (2011). I am now 24, going on 25 and my skin has never looked better (at least since I've had acne...) And it doesn't matter what I eat, it doesn't change my much clearer face, so food is not the issue when it comes to acne.
PSS: Do not use ANY acne products while using this method. I tried sneaking in some tea tree oil and bio oil one night, and my friend who gave me this awesome advice noticed the next day without even having known I used anything, stating "Your face looks a little red and aggravated today, did you put something on your face?" Then promptly scolding me for having done so haha, damn.
Edited by Tarra., 05 April 2012 - 09:08 AM.
Posted 24 April 2012 - 12:27 PM
"Sorry to read about your frustration, but making dietary/lifestyle change IS hard and requires patience, persistence and some experimentation.
I went dairy-free two years ago and it took me about 4-5 MONTHS to really see the effects. I was also very strict about my dairy intake during those first few months. That meant no pats of butter on toast. No baked goods made with butter/cream. No splashes of milk in my coffee. No ranch/blue cheese dressing on my salad. No extra grated cheese on my pasta. All of these matter and there is no easy way around it. I sometimes use soy or rice milk as a substitute, but not often and not a lot. More often than not, I don't bother with a dairy-substitute. And there were a couple of days when I felt depressed and annoyed and all I wanted was a spoonful of ice cream to soothe my mood, but you get past it. You get past the desire to reach for the quick fix or the convenient meal.
Fortunately for me, I discovered that dairy was the culprit. It took a couple of months to notice that I wasn't getting any NEW cystic acne around my chin and mouth, but it took those extra 3-4 months to see that my existing ones were calming down and healing as well.
Today, I don't even use topical acne products (just a gentle cleanser and a moisturizer) and even when I get my period, I don't even get little whiteheads. In fact, my periods are lighter and shorter. I have never been this happy with my skin since before puberty (I'm in my 30's) and I battled with adult acne and tried all sorts of harsh topicals (BP, salicylic acid...I have very sensitive skin) before settling on a diet change.
Now that my skin is in balance, I do allow myself some dairy occasionally. I enjoy baked goods made with dairy (croissants, muffins) on a regular basis. I'll have a very small serving of cheese or ice cream once a month. But if I ingest too much, or too many days in a row, I will either get a cyst or a plugged pore that takes months to heal. So no, it's not easy for me to maintain clear skin, but I make the effort because it's worth it to me.
I would also suggest taking on one "culprit" at a time to see what allergen is contributing to the acne. It will take a long time, but it will be easier for you to adjust to the new dietary changes as well as help figure out what's helping/hurting.
I hope you found some encouragement from someone who was once in the same boat as you and still deals with it. Good luck and don't give up"
Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:44 AM
After struggling for 7-8 years, 3-4 where everything was getting progressively worse, I finally found my dietary triggers. Staying away from gluten, almonds, and dairy and taking 3g of spirulina daily has cleared my acne.
It took a while, but I finally mustered the resolve to stay gluten-free for a singificant amount of time. This helped a lot, but there was still plenty of inflammation lingering around. Within two weeks of starting the spirulina, my face is almost 100% clear. I wasn't sure about dairy, because I had been dairy free for 3 years with only minor improvement, but I tried dairy again one weekend and things took a bit of a turn for the worse. It seems that I was being affected by a combination of trigger foods.
Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:37 PM
This is what I did. The specifics of why you can research on your own.
-Pasteurized dairy: The worst aggravator imaginable.
-Sugar: Added sugar = no, period. The most sugary thing I eat now is fruit, and that's OK because it's mostly berries (here and there I'll eat something else).
-Unsprouted/fermented Wheat: I still don't entirely understand wheat, but the typical wheat you find in bread and what-not will screw up your body ecology and cause oily skin/acne. If it's been fermented or sprouted, though, it's OK. This one took me awhile to discover.
Other things I do:
-Take cod liver oil twice a day, along with EFAs
-Eat a lot of fresh ground flax/chia seeds for omega-3s.
-Eat a lot of veggies.
-Took a probiotic for awhile to re-establish body ecology.
-Take a magnesium supplement before bed to alkalize my blood.
-Make sure I ingest at least 1 tsp of sea salt a day to get chloride and other minerals to clean my blood.
And I'm clear. Simple as that. My favorite part is my back is finally clear so I can go shirtless and feel good about myself, and do squats at the gym without breaking out.
Posted 21 July 2012 - 11:40 AM
I'm a graduate student in neurochemistry, so I'm usually skeptical of anecdotal evidence that these forums provide, it can often be a cycle of misinformation borrowed from hippie specialists who would have you believe that "toxins" are responsible for every disease in human history. But unfortunately I've found that medical community is very much misinformed as well. None of the heavy duty regimens my doctors put me on ever worked for me, and a few of them actually made my skin much worse.
I had several short times in my life where I was convinced I had rid myself of acne forever. Most effective was the "anti-candida" diet. My acne had cleared up about 90% within the first month, and I was convinced I was beginning "part 2" of my life. I cut out all grains, cheeses, sugars, the sweetest fruits and juices. I still drank alcohol on the occasional weekend, but when I did it was usually gin which I reasoned might be less harmful than carb/sugar heavy drinks. (Probably not true) I wanted to make a post on this site filled with capital letters and exclamation marks about how I HAVE FINALLY CURED MY ADULT CYSTIC ACNE FOREVER!!!! But I never really got past that 90% clearance. Every morning I woke up happy to a face that seemed to be clearly headed towards clarity. I would often see a very small cyst on my chin or on my forehead, but I usually dismissed it as the last small cyst of this period of my life. Sure I would only have these cysts for about a week here and there, but the red marks stayed for a few months after, so after many months on this diet, I never really made any progress. If I had stayed perfectly on this diet, I no doubt would have had flawless skin, but for an young single urban man like myself who leads an unpredictable life, such a strict diet is not possible to follow 100%.
Also I noticed that these diets made me much more susceptible to the foods that they prohibited. I ate bread my whole life, with a seemingly consistent amount of acne, but after this diet, one sandwich exploded my face and made me very irritable.
I needed a new approach. Here are a few pieces of information I've put together.
I read a few posts around the internet about some promising results from vitamin and mineral supplements. Vitamin A, D, E, Zinc, Magnesium and fish oil all have their followers exclaiming to the internet gods that they have found the last one and only cure for adult acne. I tried all of these with moderate success, but nothing ever really finally did it all for me.
I've read a lot of posts and heard from many friends that their new vegan diet had brought about adult acne after a lifetime of clear skin. This was news to me, I always imagined they would have perfect skin.
My mother is an MD/PhD and is a very "old school" doctor (Ivy league educated in the 1970s, not into gluten free remedies or anything new age you would find on the internet). We talk about medicine all the time being in a medical family. She was telling me one random day that vitamin deficiencies lead to food intolerances.
I also had palmar hyperhidrosis, sweating of the hands which in some cases is a sign of vitamin deficiency.
Then I realized that despite the fact that my diet was the most extreme of all healthy diets. Cleanest of the cleanest, completely devoid of "toxins" what I had always neglected was the amount of fat I was assuming. Fat is bad, I grew up to believe. Then I realized that all of the vitamins and minerals most highly touted on these sites are all the fat soluble ones. You can take all the supplements in the world eat all the healthiest foods, but if you don't eat fat, you're not going to get much more than a stomach ache.
Low fat = Low vitamin/mineral absorption = food intolerance = acne.
This might explain why so many hippies love coconut oil despite the fact that it's a pretty unhealthy oil. (Not hating on hippies, I have shoulder length hair, play djembe and guitar and live in Austin, TX)
What I started doing was putting olive oil on everything. In the beginning I was so excited I went a little crazy. I made salads filled with olives, avocados, nuts and spinach all covered in olive oil. For dinner I had fish, olives, avocados, nuts and olive oil. I lived on pretty much an unsaturated fat diet. I also threw out all my mineral and vitamin supplements and traded them for one bottle of multivitamins which I took with a fatty meal. (You should never really take just one vitamin by itself as it can deplete you of other vitamins and minerals) Then I realized it wasn't the amount that really mattered, just the fact that every meal had some olive oil in it.
I've added cheese and grains back into my diet and no acne has come from it. My diet has now mostly returned to a slightly healthier than average american diet with no restrictions (except sugar and white grains).
A few billion years of genetic warfare and a quarter of a century of dietary and hygienic habits have gone into the construction of my body. I know every body is different. I discovered my body wasn't getting enough unsaturated fats. Your body may be completely different. In any case, I firmly believe that having troubled skin saved me from the vanity that soiled the character of all my spoiled rich kid friends in high school. I feel deeper, calmer and wiser because of it.
Posted 21 July 2012 - 04:08 PM
Posted 21 July 2012 - 08:01 PM
So this is a picture from back in September 2011 when I became super down and depressed about my acne. This was when I decided to stop trying the topical approach and explore it from the inside via diet. Note: I had to apply a filter to the picture to accentuate the acne as the original picture didn't show just how bad I saw it when I looked in the mirror. It still really doesn't.
And here I am today:
Note: I still have some post-inflammatory marks from almost a year ago that need to fade, but it doesn't really show up in the photo. You can see it a bit to the sides of my nose and my cheekbones. I also still have those pesky little blackheads.
All the information I got about diet and key lifestyle changes I found here through doing extensive searches and occasionally asking questions. You can look through my posts or check out my thread here:
Diet is key to my acne problems. F tha haters.
Edited by takenimpulse, 15 December 2012 - 02:48 PM.
Posted 04 September 2012 - 03:01 AM
Posted 21 December 2012 - 05:44 PM
I'm 27. been suffering since 12. I was doing semi ok with my skin and than i moved and started eating a lot more.
Was almost getting new cystic acne every day.
tried the regimen and nothing worked. was caking the BP on didnt do anything.
so i cut cheese out completely. I dont drink milk either. been doing this now for probably 6 months.
i was continuing the regimen with the diet change. my acne was reduced by approx 90%.
i never thought that my diet could effect my skin because i read that there was no correlation.
even in a pamphlet that came with some BP treatment i bought, said that diet doesn't effect it.
it definitely does for me. it was getting really bad.
i have now stopped the regimen for 3 weeks, while continuing to not eat dairy, and my skin is still not bad. i can however notice small acne starting.
I hope this helps somebody.
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