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#1 lkjhgfdsa

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 07:24 PM

I've had really bad bacne for about two years now (I'm 17). It's bad enough that it's preventing me from taking my shirt off in front of anyone, and I definitely never go to pools, waterparks, beaches, or anything like that.

Below are a few pictures I took of the acne. None of them are very good quality because I took them myself without being able to see what I was taking a picture of (since I was facing the opposite direction), and it doesn't help that my camera is about five years old and wasn't good at the time, but hopefully between the ten of them you'll be able to get some idea of what the acne actually looks like. I think it actually doesn't look as bad in the pics as it does in real life because of the low quality of the camera. Certainly still not fun to look at, however.

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As you can see, there are a lot of red, scratch-like marks all over the place, tons of scarring and stuff, in addition to the acne itself.

Basically, if anyone has had a bacne problem as bad as mine and has found something to help them, I'd like to know what it was. Would Accutane work? (I haven't ever gone to a real dermatologist so I'd have to wait at least a year for that I assume, I've just gotten my physician to prescribe me some topical gels and some sort of time release antibiotic that doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.)

I'd also like to know if I should be as embarrassed about it as I am. I don't want the answer sugarcoated either, if you think my back is disgusting, PLEASE tell me. I really want to know where I genuinely stand. Your comments won't hurt me in the least, I already think other people would see my acne as really gross.

I've been taking two showers a day for the past six months or so, so that I can scrub my back with acne liquid soap and rinse it off (kind of hard to do with just the sink). Haven't really seen any results from that.

Also, I started using that vinegar treatment suggested in another thread, but I've only been doing that for a couple days and haven't really seen any difference yet. I'll continue to give that a chance though.

Anyway, thanks to anyone who helps out, this problem is really screwing up my whole mindset, and I hope I can find something that will work.

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 08:48 PM

Go buy some Head & Shoulders dandruff shampoo. Doesn't matter what kind as long as the active ingredient is zinc pyrithione. Water it down a bit so it isn't too strong, then put it on your back. Mine was as bad as yours; it's basically clear now.

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Posted 28 July 2007 - 09:23 PM

QUOTE(mouse95 @ Jul 28 2007, 09:48 PM) View Post
Go buy some Head & Shoulders dandruff shampoo. Doesn't matter what kind as long as the active ingredient is zinc pyrithione. Water it down a bit so it isn't too strong, then put it on your back. Mine was as bad as yours; it's basically clear now.


Hmm, never heard of using Head & Shoulders before. There's another topic about dandruff shampoo that says H&S is giving people bacne when they were just trying to use it as regular shampoo. ???

Thanks for the advice though, I'll give it a try if I find some more support for the suggestion.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 05:02 AM

I definitely don't think you should stop yourself from going out and having a good time! Go to the beach, go to the waterpark, whatever you want. This will resolve itself and you should live your life in the meantime. I know you think it's gross but YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST OR THE LAST person to have acne! Yes, we're all self-conscious but going to have fun might also take your mind off of this. Exercize isn't a bad idea either...

But... I definitely think you need to go see a dermatologist. A physician might give you things to try, but a dermatologist sees rashes and acne all day long - They know their stuff (good ones). It might also NOT be acne, but something different, like a fungal folliculitis that is treatable (and doesn't respond to antibiotics) with something else.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't use antibiotic soaps. Use something neutral for now like cetafil or even ivory bar soap. Wash your clothes in something mild like Ivory snow, just in case.
Change out of sweaty clothes asap - This will all prevent bacteria or fungus from lingering. Take luke-warm showers too, hot water aggravates and makes you sweaty (and stimulates sweat/oil glands)

Drink lots of water - It flushes toxins from your body and helps your skin renew itself.

and get outside, go have fun! You'll be fine!




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Posted 29 July 2007 - 10:27 AM

Well, the bacne isn't preventing me from having fun in general, just from having fun in ways that involve me from taking my shirt off.

Anyway, thanks a lot for the advice, your suggestions are duly noted.

Also, has anyone with bacne as bad as mine just had it clear up with time, rather than some sort of actual treatment? If so, how long did it take and how old were you when it happened?

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 01:51 PM

Hey man that doesnt look too bad at all. a bit of physical conditioning and your ready to go.
At the level its at now it should respond positeively to any treatement. I rate that 1/10 in terms of severity. is just superfical stuff nothing major.

that 1/10 is based on my judgement going from my own perception, dont know how you rate it yourself.
Im making thaat comparison in terms of my own, thats mine in my avatar.

make sure you dont let it esculsate do something now to maintain or improve it.

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Posted 29 July 2007 - 06:01 PM

i tried head and shoulders and that sucks i would wash your body with dial anti-bacterial body wash twice a day. and at night put vinagar on your back

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 12:19 AM

1/10? No way. I'm fairly certain that if acne-less people saw this in real life, I'd get some stares. I think maybe these pics DO underrepresent the severity of the problem. Oh well.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 12:33 AM

I do note that you do not have a large outbreak in the middle of your back, where it is hard for fingers and hands to reach. You will need to stop messing with and squeezing the acne to help it heal. Adopt a hands-off policy.

Don't take hot showers. Heat can irritate the skin and also strip it of its essential oils.

Use a gentle back scrubber to exfoliate your back with your daily shower. If you scrub too hard or too much, all you're doing is spreading the germs and possibly tearing minute cuts in your skin where more bacteria will enter, and cause more outbreaks.

Go to a dermatologist. The dermatologist can give you more suggestions/prescriptions for what might help your acne.

The idea behind using a dandruff shampoo is that it helps reduce the bacteria on your skin. Using a dandruff shampoo with salicylic acid (SA) also helps as that increases exfoliation, and SA also exfoliates within the pore.

You never leave a dandruff shampoo on the skin except for a few minutes while in the shower. It might cause irritation if you're sensitive to the ingredients. I find selsun blue 2 in 1 a good shampoo and a decent body wash. It has a sulfur derivative in it and that is what works for me.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 01:17 AM

lol at 1/10 well i would not say that possibly a 4 or a 5 , but hey it really isnt all terrible at least you dont have acne all over your face or do you?

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 02:27 AM

Yeah, I do have a bit of a problem with picking at the acne. I'll try my best to cut that out. Does it really have that big of an impact? (I'm going to try and stop either way, I just for some reason have trouble believing that it could have THAT much of an effect on the hard back skin.)

Are hot showers really bad? What I always do is start hot to open the pores, then wash, then turn it to cold to close the pores back up. I dunno if there's actually any legitimacy to that method, but it's what I do.

If the vinegar isn't working within a couple weeks, I guess I'll try the Head and Shoulders thing.

Thanks for all the suggestions, Wynne!

My facial acne problem is mild most of the time, moderate at worst. It barely bothers me at all compared to the bacne. The bacne definitely really sucks during the summer though.

Question - What is the rule on how long you have to try other things before you get Accutane? A year? And if I got a prescription in May from my physician, could I get an Accutane prescription from a dermatologist next May, or would I have to wait a year from the time he wrote HIS first prescription for me? Also, I've been trying my brother's prescription topical creams for several years, to no avail. Would that make it possible for me to get Accutane, like, now? Or are the regulations pretty strict/inflexible?

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE(lkjhgfdsa @ Jul 30 2007, 04:27 AM) View Post
Yeah, I do have a bit of a problem with picking at the acne. I'll try my best to cut that out. Does it really have that big of an impact? (I'm going to try and stop either way, I just for some reason have trouble believing that it could have THAT much of an effect on the hard back skin.)

Are hot showers really bad? What I always do is start hot to open the pores, then wash, then turn it to cold to close the pores back up. I dunno if there's actually any legitimacy to that method, but it's what I do.

If the vinegar isn't working within a couple weeks, I guess I'll try the Head and Shoulders thing.

Thanks for all the suggestions, Wynne!

My facial acne problem is mild most of the time, moderate at worst. It barely bothers me at all compared to the bacne. The bacne definitely really sucks during the summer though.

Question - What is the rule on how long you have to try other things before you get Accutane? A year? And if I got a prescription in May from my physician, could I get an Accutane prescription from a dermatologist next May, or would I have to wait a year from the time he wrote HIS first prescription for me? Also, I've been trying my brother's prescription topical creams for several years, to no avail. Would that make it possible for me to get Accutane, like, now? Or are the regulations pretty strict/inflexible?


I'd say stay away from accutane, I basically had the same bacne you did and got rid of it by head & shoulders for me (2% zinc) and ACV in a spray bottle. Try either for like a week and see how you are, getting some sun on your back will help aswell. You should notice the difference with the H&S almost instantly when you get out of the shower, alot of the redness will be gone.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 10:21 AM

Well, I'm already trying the vinegar (though not apple cider, I'm using Japanese rice vinegar as the guy who started the vinegar thread said...mostly just because I actually happened to have it in my pantry). I've been doing it for 4 days now I think, it doesn't seem to be making much of a difference. I'll keep going for another week or two, then if it still isn't working I'll give the H&S a try.

I really would just like to take care of this problem permanently at all costs, though, and Accutane seems like it's pretty much the only way to do that (if there a way at all).

Ugh, I wish there was just one solution to this problem that worked for everyone. I hate how everyone's skin reacts to things differently.

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 11:26 AM

Hey lkjhqfdsa

I have bacne as well. Are you not using BP or anything like that??

I am currently using Dettol Antibacterial soap all over body/face morning and night then at night (on my back) i apply 10% glycolic lotion then 5% BP gel and then moisturise my back and arms with boots brand soltan non-pore blocking after sun. I have been doing this regimen for a week now and it has been working well but if after another week it has stopped working/ not working i was thinking about trying the head and shoulders thing.

Would be interested in knowing if you had used the H&S yet and if so how its going as my back not a million miles away from yours

Good luck

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Posted 30 July 2007 - 11:30 AM

I used BP for a while, it never really did anything though.

QUOTE(pwilly @ Jul 30 2007, 12:26 PM) View Post
Would be interested in knowing if you had used the H&S yet and if so how its going as my back not a million miles away from yours


I haven't used H&S yet, as for the last part, I have no idea what you're saying...


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Posted 30 July 2007 - 11:51 AM

LOL sorry about that i was trying to say my back is very similar to yours sow ould have been interested in knowing how the H&S was working out for you but your not doing it yet.

My regimen is workin very well since i have stopped using shower creams and got the dettol antibacterial soap as i read that DIAL antibacterial shower gel was working for most peopl with bacne but im in england and we dont have ot here nor have i found a site that will ship it. Dettol was the closest thing in england i could find to it.


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Posted 31 July 2007 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE(lkjhgfdsa @ Jul 30 2007, 01:30 PM) View Post
I used BP for a while, it never really did anything though.
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I haven't used H&S yet...

I would also suggest BP per the DKR Regimen (copious amounts of BP twice a day with moisturizer). Start of with a small amount of BP and use as the regimen indicates. You will likely experience a good clearing of your skin, plus changing to a sensitive skin cleanser like Cetaphil or Purpose.

Dial Antibacterial is good for some people, but I find it extremely drying and irritating for my usually non-sensitive skin. I find that the Cetaphil Sensitive Skin antibacterial bar is just great, plus it provides some moisturization. You don't want your skin to feel 'tight' after you step out of the shower. "Tight" feeling skin indicates your cleanser is too harsh.

Exfoliation is also good, provided you do so gently.

Yes, it IS important not to squeeze even your back acne. That just irritates the skin, makes each bump more red and angry and makes them stick around longer. Just clean the back, treat it with BP, and keep hands off. smile.gif Warm water is so much better as it doesn't irritate the skin. I use a final cold (yes, COLD! biggrin.gif ) water rinse after the shower over my entire body and my hair. It is invigorating and it seems to be doing my skin everywhere some good. It is not as oily as it was.

Good luck! smile.gif

PS: Please don't use other people's medications. It won't hurt for you to go to a dermatologist to get prescriptions of your own. Currently, your bacne is not severe enough to warrant Accutane. I think it can be significantly improved with BP per the DKR, and moisturizer, and gentle regular exfoliation. Consistency will win the battle!

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 06:48 AM

Please delete.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 09:59 AM

Wynne: I used BP for a very very long time (at least 6 months), and I never saw ANY change at all, for the better or for the worse. I was very consistent with it too; twice a day every day.

jte: I really think the pics don't do it justice. I dunno if it's the lighting, the angle, or what. But don't get me wrong here, I'm well aware that there are A LOT of people who are a lot worse off than I am.

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Posted 31 July 2007 - 10:08 AM

I just had to comment on how nice of a shape your back is. Don't know if that helps any, but yeah. wink.gif