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#6521 Rez77

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Posted 23 July 2015 - 10:48 PM

EGG OIL!!!! lolololol have you guys lost your mind!!!??

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 12:04 AM

EGG OIL!!!! lolololol have you guys lost your mind!!!??


Dude, why are you so crappy?



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 05:59 AM



Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

 


I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't.

In the new blurb that was posted they are somewhat vague though when it comes to whether these pigs truly had their skin regenerated or not. They say the scarring was minimized and that the regenerated "skin" had certain things in common with uninjured skin but mind you, scarring is referred to as skin as well by medical professionals.

But I'm still excited and I am sure human trials will happen. After all, they posted on their website that they were planned for next year.

 


Edited by Lapis lazuli, 26 July 2015 - 02:45 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2015 - 06:32 AM

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

Thanks guys


Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 08:57 AM

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

Thanks guys


Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...


Some medical professionals claim that scars can form within 14 days though.



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 02:33 PM

 

Seabs135: whats your take on this news?

Lapiz : do you think they will go to human trials? Or they revert back to murine study?

Thanks guys


Nothing has changed. The scientific info hasn't changed. It reepithialized inside two weeks whereas only 14% of the control did. This is also even more translative to human skin...


Some medical professionals claim that scars can form within 14 days though.

Here is clinical data that highlights scarring is very rare in anything wound that reepithilizes in under 14 days..
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16901651


 


Edited by seabs135, 24 July 2015 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2015 - 02:43 PM

Here is clinical data that highlights scarring is very rare in anything wound that reepithilizes in under 14 days..
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/16901651


That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.



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Posted 24 July 2015 - 10:05 PM

Are we there yet?! XD

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Posted 24 July 2015 - 11:10 PM

That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.


If you excise the skin you will get a HS.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:31 AM

Are we there yet?! XD


Not yet.



That's cool even thought they solely mention hypertrophic scarring.


If you excise the skin you will get a HS.


Hypertrophic scarring is the sole scar type that is associated with excision? I highly doubt that. No offense. But it's cool that that is avoided at least through usage of the hydrogel.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:39 AM

Hypertrophic scarring is the sole scar type that is associated with excision? I highly doubt that. No offense. But it's cool that that is avoided at least through usage of the hydrogel.


None taken. I'd like to argue, but my poor English won't let me do it. Sorry :)


Edited by Roach25, 25 July 2015 - 07:40 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:51 AM


None taken. I'd like to argue, but my poor English won't let me do it. Sorry :)


That's OK.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 05:13 PM

Another break through......

http://scicasts.com/...say-scientists/

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Posted Today, 12:45 AM

you dopes none of this stuff works yet. I mean seriously, the way you guys add links to these sites. You're looking at 20 to 30 years for any of this to be applicable. It's like buying a bunch of land in the north pole waiting for the world to get so populated it'll be worth something. You'll be waiting pretty long. Trust me I read all of this stuff you guys post very very clearly with a fine tooth comb and I see where there are errors and leaps in logic that would lead any of this to have clinical human applications. Literally decades my friends. Pursue something else or make peace with your scars. Thre's no fountain of youth. There's no HOly Grail. 

THAT"S WHAT THIS SOLUTION WOULD BE. Dont you guys realize that if they could fully regnerate scarred skin they could regenerate any skin. It would be the fountain of youth. You think that exists? Not in this lifetime, or those of your children. 

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Posted Today, 02:30 AM

The recent news about the porcine model keeps stating "minimal scarring" and that it has some characteristics of uninjured skin. So that means that the skin is not scar free, so there will be some scarring although not much? That's not necessarily great news, right?

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Posted Today, 02:40 AM

Okay I'm just gonna point one slight thing to you braniacs. How many people are actively visiting and contributing real information to this thread? Just the few of you pseudo-scientists right? Don't you think, by any common sense, if this was a real thriving technology there would be like several dozen scientists and researchers and business types actively following and contributing info here? 

Right. So the fact that there isn't points to how this is all just very speculative and in the far off future right now. If humans ever are able to manipulate scar tissue and regenerate fresh viable skin that will be a massive breakthrough for the entire species. And I don't see it happening this century. 

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Posted Today, 05:55 AM

Rez? Dont you want to be cured? Cmon, stay logical, dont let desperation takes control over you

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Posted Today, 09:57 PM

www.google.com/patents/US4219544

This patent was granted in 1980! Heat was used to extract the oil under temperature controlled conditions. 
I want to find the cold process patent Vav Life uses. It protects the oil from being compromised and it removes the protein. The oil works. It's already here and it's cheap to make for ourselves. The only downside is self scar removal. I plan to do a test site as soon as I sort out a way to get the oil via the cold process way. All patients mentioned in that patent are claimed to have heal 100% scar free. 19 frigging 80 people.... Why is news about this oil so unknown?

Edited by 2001, Today, 10:08 PM.



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